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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/9/2015 10:39:33 PM   
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bonanza (n.) 1844, American English, from Spanish bonanza "a rich lode," originally "fair weather at sea, prosperity," from Vulgar Latin *bonacia, from Latin bonus "good" (see bene-).

So that's where they got the name for the drug Viagra!

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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/9/2015 11:59:25 PM   
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bonanza (n.) 1844, American English, from Spanish bonanza "a rich lode," originally "fair weather at sea, prosperity," from Vulgar Latin *bonacia, from Latin bonus "good" (see bene-).

So that's where they got the name for the drug Viagra!


They get drug names from a monkey named Jim, locked in a closet in Burbank, fed only a diet of Clark bars and RC cola.

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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/10/2015 4:26:03 AM   
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Ok, sure, you have none in the pool right now... I don't think you should worry about the Hurricane-a's: you get plenty of -b's and -c's as the year goes on. Losing that many -b's does hurt a little, but you should look at what you got out of the expenditure of the planes. In this case, many more VPs than they were worth, and perhaps time while he fills those units back out.

Also, who cares about the P-40E? If they were P-39Ds I'd get it... .


The problem with the Hurries is that I canīt upgrade the A to the B since I donīt have an airfield big enough in India. And even if I had I donīt have enough Bs to upgrade any A squadrons. Some patience is required there until I can start upgrading or those 3 squadrons flying As will become empty.

Donīt get me wrong though. I was very happy with the result both on the WC and in India. But I donīt want to get into a sweeping contest. Iīll let him sweep for a while and once he starts bombing Iīll jump back in.

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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/10/2015 4:50:56 AM   
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Actually not much to report.

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NORPAC
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Massive sweeps over Seattle as the KB joins in on the sweeping. Not only that but the KB is on the move! This could be the opportunity I have been waiting for. Lets see if he continues to move South.

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China
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Doom approaching quickly. Once he breaks the next roadblock on the Ankang road he will cut the Lanchow/Chunking connection in a matter of days. He will also have an easy route into the plains which means game over.

Normally I would pull back and concentrate in the mountains. But I canīt do that in this game as our HR prevents me from bombing industry in China throughout the war. I need to make sure the industry is damaged on capture. With that in mind I decided not to pull back from the Eastern parts of China. So the Chinese will be cut in half.

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India
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Japanese secure Comilla. Iīm preparing evacuation to Calcutta. Iīve drawn in 110k of supply and the forts should be able to reach 6 before we get there. A new Japanese ID is prepping for Calcutta (the 24th ID).

The allies will have 3000 AV behind level 6 forts in a UH hex. I donīt think this is something Jeff can overcome.

I also have something else planned here. We shall see if I can give Jeff a little smack on the nose.


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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/10/2015 5:28:01 AM   
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Will Calcutta have enough supply to withstand high usage in combat plus losses to bombardments?

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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/10/2015 6:00:24 AM   
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Will Calcutta have enough supply to withstand high usage in combat plus losses to bombardments?


I hope so!

Got 110k there now but I think Iīll be able to pull a little more once the troops get in place.

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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/10/2015 6:18:21 AM   
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Will Calcutta have enough supply to withstand high usage in combat plus losses to bombardments?


I hope so!

Got 110k there now but I think Iīll be able to pull a little more once the troops get in place.

From reading AARs the last 3-4 years, the Japanese adventure in India usually goes there way until about July or August 42 when they run into problems as Indian units get up to speed and reinforcements arrive - mostly land and air units but some ships too. Until then, Calcutta may be strong but in a siege situation lots of troops need lots of supply. It all depends on how hard he goes for it after China cashes in.

I guess my thought is that you need to maintain a line of retreat back through Ranchi direction "just in case".

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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/10/2015 7:07:03 AM   
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Will Calcutta have enough supply to withstand high usage in combat plus losses to bombardments?


I hope so!

Got 110k there now but I think Iīll be able to pull a little more once the troops get in place.

From reading AARs the last 3-4 years, the Japanese adventure in India usually goes there way until about July or August 42 when they run into problems as Indian units get up to speed and reinforcements arrive - mostly land and air units but some ships too. Until then, Calcutta may be strong but in a siege situation lots of troops need lots of supply. It all depends on how hard he goes for it after China cashes in.

I guess my thought is that you need to maintain a line of retreat back through Ranchi direction "just in case".


You make some good points. My biggest fear is actually that he just maintains a strong garrison at Calcutta while rampaging through the rest of India.

My main problem is that I donīt know for certain how much he has brought. As I mentioned I have around 3000 AV including 4 excellent IDs (2 OZ 2 British). This will be reinforced in about 60 days with another British and a US ID.

But how much can Jeff bring to the party? I have a hunch he doesnīt have nowhere near enough. He might not even have enough to siege Calcutta. But until I know I canīt take any chances. From old SIGINT he has 3-4 IDs. If that is all he has I might even be able to drive him back with what I have.

I think I need better Intel before deciding what to do here. And I have my little surprise too...


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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/10/2015 12:42:35 PM   
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Joc,

I'm only reading sporadically and have missed alot of what's happening, so forgive me if what I'm about to say is obvious or has already been covered. I've defended India before against massive invasions and I've defended North America under the same circumstances. So I offer a few comments just in case they are useful.

1. It's late April 1942, so still early enough that Japan can run amock and it's difficult for you to effectively parry at this point. As somebody noted just above regarding India (and really applying all over), by late summer 1942 the equation changes dramatically.

2. By September, Japan will have a very hard time defending in India. The Allies are growing so strong by then - at least by land and usually by air - that a big land campaign in India is bad news, especially into autumn. So the real threat is from now through late summer. It's pretty late already for Lowpe to come for India, but watch your back door. India is a waste of time for him unless Bombay or Karachi is the target. Calcutta isn't important compared to those two places. So if there's any risk of him coming around your back side with 10 or 20 divisions now or after China falls, watch out. That's very unlikely, but don't take any chances. In fact, are you sure you want to risk having 3k troops bottled up in Calcutta? What if he besieges the city, cuts off every route of retreat, and then brings in a stout army? Defending Calcutta might be a good idea - analagous to a Guadalcanal - in the right circumstances, but not if the Japanese overrun the island and wipe ot the 1st Marines.

3. By early summer '42, I seem to recall that Allied airpower in CONUS was growing pretty doggone massive. I took some strat losses in the air campaign, but it became very costly for my opponent. I had been able to bring in some air groups from Hawaii via xAK before the CONUS campaign began. How do you think your fighter defenses will look into late May and June? Unless I'm missing something, I think Lowpe's going to find himself holding a "tar baby" (something stuck too his hands that he can't shake loose of to his regret) by summer.

4. Japan should continue building it's Victory Point ratio into the summer, but as summer wanes the ratio should begin to decline, with the trend accelerating the autumn. Probably the biggest risk to you is one-sided losses in big carrier battles. So protect the fleet. I think by mid- to late summer, the air war should be far from the 4:1 or more that he wants.

5. You're probably already doing this, but on occasion, make notes of the VP ratio and see how it changes on a weekly or bi-weekly basis. By mid- to late summer you should notice some encouraging trending in your favor.

Good luck!

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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/11/2015 5:09:24 AM   
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Joc,

I'm only reading sporadically and have missed alot of what's happening, so forgive me if what I'm about to say is obvious or has already been covered. I've defended India before against massive invasions and I've defended North America under the same circumstances. So I offer a few comments just in case they are useful.

1. It's late April 1942, so still early enough that Japan can run amock and it's difficult for you to effectively parry at this point. As somebody noted just above regarding India (and really applying all over), by late summer 1942 the equation changes dramatically.

2. By September, Japan will have a very hard time defending in India. The Allies are growing so strong by then - at least by land and usually by air - that a big land campaign in India is bad news, especially into autumn. So the real threat is from now through late summer. It's pretty late already for Lowpe to come for India, but watch your back door. India is a waste of time for him unless Bombay or Karachi is the target. Calcutta isn't important compared to those two places. So if there's any risk of him coming around your back side with 10 or 20 divisions now or after China falls, watch out. That's very unlikely, but don't take any chances. In fact, are you sure you want to risk having 3k troops bottled up in Calcutta? What if he besieges the city, cuts off every route of retreat, and then brings in a stout army? Defending Calcutta might be a good idea - analagous to a Guadalcanal - in the right circumstances, but not if the Japanese overrun the island and wipe ot the 1st Marines.

3. By early summer '42, I seem to recall that Allied airpower in CONUS was growing pretty doggone massive. I took some strat losses in the air campaign, but it became very costly for my opponent. I had been able to bring in some air groups from Hawaii via xAK before the CONUS campaign began. How do you think your fighter defenses will look into late May and June? Unless I'm missing something, I think Lowpe's going to find himself holding a "tar baby" (something stuck too his hands that he can't shake loose of to his regret) by summer.

4. Japan should continue building it's Victory Point ratio into the summer, but as summer wanes the ratio should begin to decline, with the trend accelerating the autumn. Probably the biggest risk to you is one-sided losses in big carrier battles. So protect the fleet. I think by mid- to late summer, the air war should be far from the 4:1 or more that he wants.

5. You're probably already doing this, but on occasion, make notes of the VP ratio and see how it changes on a weekly or bi-weekly basis. By mid- to late summer you should notice some encouraging trending in your favor.

Good luck!


Thanks for dropping by CR.

1. Indeed. And given the Japanese commitment in NORPAC I think the Indian operation might be a little more then the Japanese can take.

2. This is currently my greatest concern. Iīm not really worried about a landing behind my back as the KB and the majority of the IJA is in NORPAC. But as you point out Iīm extremely worried about being besieged and cut off in Calcutta. Iīm still unsure if Jeff has brought enough to be a credible threat though. He has to be pretty thin on troops by now.

3. Well, since I lost PH all those squadrons are now sitting nicely on the WC. My real bottleneck is planes and decent pilots. I donīt see things looking much better in this regard until perhaps September when the P40K kick into production. I do get some P39s and P38 (WC restricted) squadrons arriving in 2 months. But they only arrive with 6 planes each.

So my philosophy will be to continue to rely mostly on AA for defense. At least while the KB is around. If KB leaves I can probably be more aggressive here. I have 250 Fighters with decent pilots ready to jump on any opportunity.

4 and 5. Iīm keeping a close eye on VPs. Mainly my own. I can only compare to my earlier games but so far Iīm doing much, much better then usual. This is mostly due to heavy Japanese air losses which is already nearing 2000 and a 2:1 allied advantage. Very good for late April I think.

Iīm still fairly confident I can avoid AV.

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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/11/2015 6:20:05 AM   
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Renewed bombings and a big rivercrossing.

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NORPAC
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KB moves even further south and launches another big sweep over Seattle. Skies are empty though. But this time the bombers come too. Over two days the allied suffer 78 lost VPs for only 11 planes shot down. Not good. Despite the relatively low altitude the AA does worse then expected. Not sure why.

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China
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Big crossing at Paoshan. Japanese bombers have pounded the defender during the last week. So its no big surprise. Good result considering the circumstances.

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Ground combat at Paoshan (65,45)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 19036 troops, 183 guns, 64 vehicles, Assault Value = 583

Defending force 18645 troops, 101 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 711

Japanese adjusted assault: 524

Allied adjusted defense: 865

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)

Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
2790 casualties reported
Squads: 65 destroyed, 149 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 23 (4 destroyed, 19 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
435 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 52 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
143rd Infantry Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
55th Engineer Regiment
55th Mountain Gun Regiment
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion


Defending units:
51st Chinese Corps
3rd New Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Corps


Will be a while before he will grind it down. Another Panzerattack on the Ankang road. I think we will fall in the next attack and with that all of central China.

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India
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Japanese main army reaches Comilla. Looks like they are spreading out. Some moving due East towards Dimapur and Ledo and some NW towards Calcutta. Very interesting. Allied main army is sitting undetected at Silchar. All troops are in strat mode and ready to move either way depending on where Jeff goes.

Most of the troops fleeing Burma will get out. Most of them have just reached Dimapur and will rail out in two turns. Some battalions, an Indian BDE and some BFs fleeing Warazup wonīt get out in time though. They will try and hide somewhere and await the liberation.

Iīve lost contact with the MKB. They are not on the Burma coast any longer and not sitting at Rangoon. I have a Japanese SCTF sitting at Chittagong though. Not sure what it is besides showing "CAs" and DDs. An allied CL force is prowling in the area looking for prey.






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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/12/2015 12:40:28 PM   
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I don't think there's any chance of Lowpe getting AV. Or, I should say, there's no way for him to get it, but there is probably a way you could give it to him. Meaning: if an Allied player got rattled and ended up feeding assets piecemeal into a meatgrinder, he could give an IJ player alot of victory points. But you're too experienced for that. :)

When I was defending CONUS against Panzerjager Hortlund (a very good player), I had my carriers loitering well to the SW of California. I think from time to time I flew F4F squadrons to CONUS to bolster my defences. With the USN fighter replacement rates being a little more friendly, this seemed to work well. It's a bit of a juggling act, though, and of course you need plenty of breathing room (separation from KB) to make that possible.

Good luck.

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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/12/2015 1:25:25 PM   
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Mini-KB: Look for them at Port Blair. I usually have subs off that base as many Japanese players use it for their warships in this theater.

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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/12/2015 4:14:36 PM   
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I don't think there's any chance of Lowpe getting AV. Or, I should say, there's no way for him to get it, but there is probably a way you could give it to him. Meaning: if an Allied player got rattled and ended up feeding assets piecemeal into a meatgrinder, he could give an IJ player alot of victory points. But you're too experienced for that. :)

When I was defending CONUS against Panzerjager Hortlund (a very good player), I had my carriers loitering well to the SW of California. I think from time to time I flew F4F squadrons to CONUS to bolster my defences. With the USN fighter replacement rates being a little more friendly, this seemed to work well. It's a bit of a juggling act, though, and of course you need plenty of breathing room (separation from KB) to make that possible.

Good luck.


Thank you for the confidence. Iīll try to live up to it!

While I donīt have any CV squadrons on the WC I do have a couple of USMC squadrons flying Kittens. While they wonīt change the tide of war it is as you point out good to relieve some pressure off the USAAF pools.

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Mini-KB: Look for them at Port Blair. I usually have subs off that base as many Japanese players use it for their warships in this theater.


Ah, thanks for the tip. Iīll take a peak at it next turn.

PS. Iīll try to respond to your email sometime during this week. Time is...lacking.

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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/12/2015 7:16:58 PM   
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Managed two turns tonight but no time for an update.

The coming two turns could turn out to be very interesting if things work out.

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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/13/2015 4:04:01 PM   
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April 28th-29th
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Strangely quiet.

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NORPAC
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Nothing happening here. No bombings for the last 4 days. KB returns to Coal Harbor. 200 Allied fighter are waiting for the right opportunity.

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Luzon
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Aaarghh. Tearing my hair here as I lose a 3rd sub at Manila. The AI disbands them in port due to damage instead of just refueling them. They are then stuck for 3 days and sunk by Jeff.

Japanese forces have reached Clark field. SIGINT are showing forces moving for Atimonan. Trying to get some troops and CD guns there but I donīt know how much time I have.

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China
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Hehe. Not often you get something positive from China as the allies. But this was pretty fun...

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Ground combat at Lanchow (81,34)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 40473 troops, 315 guns, 35 vehicles, Assault Value = 1258

Defending force 31081 troops, 181 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1040

Japanese adjusted assault: 1096

Allied adjusted defense: 1143

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
8893 casualties reported
Squads: 350 destroyed, 334 disabled
Non Combat: 56 destroyed, 135 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 28 disabled
Guns lost 101 (33 destroyed, 68 disabled)


Allied ground losses:
761 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 213 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 23 (1 destroyed, 22 disabled)


Assaulting units:
12th Indpt Infantry Regiment
13th Indpt Infantry Regiment
11th Indpt Infantry Regiment
1st Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd Ind.Mixed Brigade
27th Division
26th Engineer Regiment
Mongol Garrison Army
21st AA Regiment
11th Field Artillery Regiment


Defending units:
3rd Chinese Corps
34th Chinese Corps
82nd Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Base Force
10th Chinese Base Force



Guess it will be a while before his Northern force will be useful again. 80 Allied VPs. Nice.

Ankang road holds off another attack. Next one wonīt though.

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India
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Allied ground troops abandon everything south of Calcutta. Japanese armor is moving to cut the line and I donīt dare risk being caught off. Iīll have to try and gather more intel on Japanese forces before Iīll decide if I should counter attack or not.

An allied fleet is probing the Burma coast. Looks like the SCTF at Chittagong may be a smaller CL force. Either that or Jeff is mixing in CLs with CAs. I have a similar TF at Akyab but no idea what it really is. Sent in a sub there too to try and find out.

Goal with this OP is to try for some easy sinkings gaining some VPs and possibly open up for some bombardments of Chittagong. Have to be careful of LBA though. Netties based in Central Burma and Rangoon(?) have been hitting Paoshan recently. Iīll move closer to the coast and see if I can spring a surprise.




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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/13/2015 5:24:26 PM   
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Not sure why he is shock attacking so much in China. It's a lot of risk for little gain relative to a deliberate attack. Japanese troops outclass the Chinese by so much that there are 2 options, really:

1) Chinese troops are in poor supply and therefore usually poor condition. You don't need to shock here, just deliberate. Eventually the Chinese run out of places to fall back to, so bagging more on the front end is not really necessary.

2) Chinese troops have supply and are therefore usually in better condition (with forts). Shocking here is risky, as if you get bad odds you'll get shot up, as has happened to him twice here. Granted, you had a negative supply modifier show up, but I'd bet you weren't out of supply (it only has to be 1 unit for it to show up in the combat text). The IJA may as well just do a deliberate attack, which has a decent chance of knocking forts down anyway and won't result in massive casualties if you end up with poor odds.

What happened to GreyJoy against Obvert is another good example of this. There's just no need to shock attack, and you can afford to avoid river crossing attacks as Japan. A failed shock attack can stall a front for weeks or longer while you wait for troops to recover.

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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/13/2015 7:14:11 PM   
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Not sure why he is shock attacking so much in China. It's a lot of risk for little gain relative to a deliberate attack. Japanese troops outclass the Chinese by so much that there are 2 options, really:

1) Chinese troops are in poor supply and therefore usually poor condition. You don't need to shock here, just deliberate. Eventually the Chinese run out of places to fall back to, so bagging more on the front end is not really necessary.

2) Chinese troops have supply and are therefore usually in better condition (with forts). Shocking here is risky, as if you get bad odds you'll get shot up, as has happened to him twice here. Granted, you had a negative supply modifier show up, but I'd bet you weren't out of supply (it only has to be 1 unit for it to show up in the combat text). The IJA may as well just do a deliberate attack, which has a decent chance of knocking forts down anyway and won't result in massive casualties if you end up with poor odds.

What happened to GreyJoy against Obvert is another good example of this. There's just no need to shock attack, and you can afford to avoid river crossing attacks as Japan. A failed shock attack can stall a front for weeks or longer while you wait for troops to recover.


Yupp, he could have easily walked around to the North or even crossed to the south where only 1 corps was protecting. I think he thought he had broken through my lines when he routed 2 corps further to the East a while back.

No complaints from me though!

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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/13/2015 7:30:30 PM   
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No fish was caught.

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NORPAC
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Another set of attacks on Seattle and Vancouver. For some odd reason he hits the Catalina factory at Vancouver. This strike is very light on escorts and is also being done by the KB. If this continues Iīll try to ambush him.

Betties and some Sallys hit Seattle to quite good effect. But today AA behaves as Iīm used to. 17 planes shot down today which negates the VP gain from the strat bombing. Good!

Looks like Jeff grew tired of the defenders at Skagway as he sends in another regiment.

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China
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Massive air attack on Sian causing some 800 casualties. This raid is also lightly escorted. Perhaps an opportunity....

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India
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Nothing caught in the net on the Burma coast. Looks like the TF at Akyab might possibly be the MKB. I have no desire to take on the MKB backed up by LBA. Time to pull back into the Shadows as my TFs are spotted. If he chases after them we will have a battle tomorrow. Donīt think Iīll like that...

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Luzon
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Was too slow contesting the Atimonan landing. Troops landed this turn without loss as the CD guns just arrived in strat mode.

In other news some nice reinforcements arrived today! Very welcome!






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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/13/2015 8:53:48 PM   
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Havta ask why you are using Manilla as a base for the subs?

On December 8th I reassign every sub at Manilla to a new home base at Soerbaja as they sortie from Manilla.

Even the S-boats can operate in the PI with a home base of Soerbaja.

Only after that home base has to displace further away do the S-boats lose the ability to operate in the PI.

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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/13/2015 9:15:24 PM   
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Yessir, you must be drooling over the prospect of getting 24 Marmon-Herringtons in the pools!
(I think these are the ones Cap Mandrake refers to as "combine harversters".)

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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/14/2015 1:45:50 AM   
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Another set of attacks on Seattle and Vancouver. For some odd reason he hits the Catalina factory at Vancouver.


Well, I'll play the Allied spy here and say a few cryptic words...

1. Where do your new Catalinas come from when that factory burns to the ground?

2. Danger Will Robinson! Danger!!!

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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/14/2015 3:18:01 AM   
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Another set of attacks on Seattle and Vancouver. For some odd reason he hits the Catalina factory at Vancouver.


Well, I'll play the Allied spy here and say a few cryptic words...

1. Where do your new Catalinas come from when that factory burns to the ground?

2. Danger Will Robinson! Danger!!!

venividivici10044a - the bombing from KB may damage some points of Catalina production, but AFAIK only a firestorm will actually destroy it permanently. Without the bomb output of many 4-engine bombers, it is nearly impossible to get such a firestorm going. And there is so much supply in North America that the damaged factories can be repaired in short order. So for a minor interruption in production the Japanese are risking their best pilots (KB's).

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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/14/2015 3:53:59 AM   
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Spy + Cryptic = Partial Information for the Allies to evaluate

Danger Will Robinson = Early War Hysteria

Allied Military Intelligence has now assessed the spies report and clarified, Excellent!

On to research...speaking of firestorms...this is where the Allies should invest their research...

Bat Bombs

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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/14/2015 6:33:24 AM   
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Spy + Cryptic = Partial Information for the Allies to evaluate

Danger Will Robinson = Early War Hysteria

Allied Military Intelligence has now assessed the spies report and clarified, Excellent!

On to research...speaking of firestorms...this is where the Allies should invest their research...

Bat Bombs


I am guessing you mean the night flying bats, but how about this bat/fat bomb ?




PS - like the Lost In Space reference - like I feel when I am lost in this immense game.

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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/14/2015 3:44:58 PM   
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Haha this turned out interesting! That is a killer hot dog!

On a more serious note the factory is only 3 points which gives very little VPs. I only a 4 plane squadron that can use the CAT Is so knocking it out makes little sense. And as BB points out I seriously doubt that Japan can create firestorms. I never did despite having the full might of the Allied 4Es in 45 at my disposal. And 3 points will repair almost instantly (have repair turned off on everything right now though) But Iīll not complain.

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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/14/2015 5:04:30 PM   
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Got a message from Jeff. No turn tonight so obviously no update.



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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/14/2015 5:35:45 PM   
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Haha this turned out interesting! That is a killer hot dog!

On a more serious note the factory is only 3 points which gives very little VPs. I only a 4 plane squadron that can use the CAT Is so knocking it out makes little sense. And as BB points out I seriously doubt that Japan can create firestorms. I never did despite having the full might of the Allied 4Es in 45 at my disposal. And 3 points will repair almost instantly (have repair turned off on everything right now though) But Iīll not complain.


I've never seen any text report in the late game that I had created a firestorm. Maybe there isn't one. I've had over 800,000 Fires on a city and not gotten it. I did not flip to the other side to check to see if industry was permanently destroyed though.

But I seriously doubt the Japanese can create one anywhere with 2Es.

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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/14/2015 10:02:47 PM   
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Haha this turned out interesting! That is a killer hot dog!

On a more serious note the factory is only 3 points which gives very little VPs. I only a 4 plane squadron that can use the CAT Is so knocking it out makes little sense. And as BB points out I seriously doubt that Japan can create firestorms. I never did despite having the full might of the Allied 4Es in 45 at my disposal. And 3 points will repair almost instantly (have repair turned off on everything right now though) But Iīll not complain.


I've never seen any text report in the late game that I had created a firestorm. Maybe there isn't one. I've had over 800,000 Fires on a city and not gotten it. I did not flip to the other side to check to see if industry was permanently destroyed though.

But I seriously doubt the Japanese can create one anywhere with 2Es.


Not long ago (summer this year) this topic was brought up and someone posted a picture of the text showing the words FIRE STORM. I have forgotten the details but it might have been in the War Room forum. The commentary said it was a rare die roll to get a fire storm, so you might have to do a lot of city attacks before you see one. ADM SPRUANCE just completed a game that went to Sept. 1/45 and although he started attacking Japan's industry in 1944, I don't think he got in 100 attacks before the end of his game - thanks to the service rating of B-29s and heavy losses from Japanese fighter production on steroids.


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RE: Canada Invaded! - 10/15/2015 3:53:43 PM   
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May 1st
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New month begin with a bang. A nice one too.

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NORPAC
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Jumped in the USAAF over Vancouver after noticing the strikes here were not proceeded by sweeps but only escorted bombings from what looks like the KB. Results were...nice.

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Morning Air attack on Vancouver , at 209,49

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 52 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 39
B5N1 Kate x 6
B5N2 Kate x 49


Allied aircraft
P-38E Lightning x 6
P-39D Airacobra x 13
P-40E Warhawk x 68


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 8 destroyed
B5N1 Kate: 2 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 14 destroyed, 7 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak


Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Manpower hits 9
Fires 1925


Almost 30 Kates shot down together with 30+ Zeroes. Do I dare hope this was a KB strike? Japanese also strike Seattle and my flak isnīt really doing as good as I had hoped. Some 65 VPs lost to strat bombing. The allies still win the day (counting from an AV perspective) with 200+ VPs. Good day! Now I only need 15 days more like this...

Back to the shadows for the USAAF.

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India
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Interesting...as I pull back so does Jeff. He gathers his strength under a huge CAP at Chittagong. I get some intel on his TFs as he moves from Akyab.

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ASW attack near Akyab at 54,44

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna
BB Kongo
CA Suzuya
CA Takao
CL Tama
CL Jintsu
DD Hayate
DD Ushio
DD Okikaze
DD Asanagi


Allied Ships
SS Truant


I might try an engagement here. Doesnīt look like an optimal TF setup with a mix of BBs, CAs, CLs and very few DDs. Are the old "Rs" up to the task of will they only be torped out of the water in a night engagement? My instinct say "NO" but I also feel I need to try and gather VPs where I can...

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Mistimed jumping the Chinese air force in. But we did pretty good anyway dealing with several Oscar sweeps.

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Morning Air attack on Sian , at 83,41

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 27

Allied aircraft
I-15-III x 17
H81-A3 x 13
Hawk 75M x 3


Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
I-15-III: 1 destroyed
H81-A3: 1 destroyed
Hawk 75M: 1 destroyed


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New month.
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Avengers and Lightnings coming online. Very nice boost together with the B-26. But other than that nothing too exciting.




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