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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/19/2016 11:06:20 PM

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/20/2016 2:50:41 AM

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/20/2016 4:39:10 PM

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So. just sent the turn files and reports to Sqz. I think we may be running turns within a week!

I am curious about upgrading to latest patch. This game is on last official. Old, I know. Neither of us wanted to upgrade then, but since it's been a long while now I wonder if it makes sense.

What will I gain? Anything to lose?

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/20/2016 4:41:33 PM

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Awesome Erik! Good to see you back for real!

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/20/2016 4:43:02 PM

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Glad this is restarting!

The Back button in the Airplane/Ship database is more then worth updating to the most recent beta. It is officially my favorite button! And there are some other good things as well of course.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/20/2016 5:18:18 PM

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I am looking forward to see you posting again :)

Though I fear you'll have to do some recaps

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/20/2016 5:33:22 PM

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Everything to gain from updating.

Go latest official, latest beta patch.

So many great improvements.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/20/2016 6:26:58 PM

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I am looking forward to see you posting again :)

Though I fear you'll have to do some recaps

I will. No fear there!

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Everything to gain from updating. Go latest official, latest beta patch.

So many great improvements.

Good. That was my hope. I'll move forward and do it.

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Glad this is restarting!

The Back button in the Airplane/Ship database is more then worth updating to the most recent beta. It is officially my favorite button! And there are some other good things as well of course.

Wa

No idea what this back button is that you speak of. Curious to find out.

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Awesome Erik! Good to see you back for real!

Yes. I look forward to it.

How long did it take your wife to figure out you were back in the game "for real?"

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/20/2016 7:28:06 PM

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Good to see this one back underway!

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/20/2016 9:14:22 PM

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So because Joseph has been playing with the last official, and that is native to this game for its duration, we'll continue with that setup to start at his request.

It's fine with me, and although I know there are advantages to both sides moving to the new patch, I also think this offers Japan in this game a balancing factor. LBA strikes will be stronger in the official with better coordination and less flak. To balance this the Allies will also get better coordination and less flak, but the IJN is down some CVs, and LBA will have to supplement those if possible.

We don't have SL so there are some massive Allied armies Torsten has set up, similar to what I faced with Jocke in Burma. I've countered them so far and I think I've learned my lesson about getting these cut off there!

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/20/2016 9:17:35 PM

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A quick hello and good luck to Erik. I hope to contribute to a fun and rewarding game experience for us both, and those following.

May the end be swift and merciful.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/20/2016 9:48:13 PM

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A quick hello and good luck to Erik. I hope to contribute to a fun and rewarding game experience for us both, and those following.

May the end be swift and merciful.

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May the end [of 45] be swift and merciful!

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/20/2016 11:47:58 PM

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Eric, glad to see you pick up the sword and resume this fight. Long live the AE Forum! I'll be following.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/21/2016 12:10:40 AM

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I read from page 28 forward to spark my memory. The rest will have to wait for serious downtime.

I can only have 12 Stella's in my game with Jocke and then only in mid 44.

I definitely think you should use the ones you have as they are a flexible plane. CV & Float. Plus Army! What is not to love.

Here it is with the Spruce. I wonder if the Spruce could be used as a Kamikaze late game. Agile little guy, and I think I recall seeing a picture of one with a 55 gallon drum stuffed with something in the rear seat. An Obvert picture no doubt.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/21/2016 7:14:57 AM

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Eric, glad to see you pick up the sword and resume this fight. Long live the AE Forum! I'll be following.

Thanks Dan. It'll be fun to see where this goes with a new man at the helm. It's not so much later than your game, and not quite as forward a position for the Allies, so I think Joseph has his work cut out. He does want to play the endgame, so it might just be a perfect match!

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/21/2016 7:17:51 AM

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I read from page 28 forward to spark my memory. The rest will have to wait for serious downtime.

I can only have 12 Stella's in my game with Jocke and then only in mid 44.

I definitely think you should use the ones you have as they are a flexible plane. CV & Float. Plus Army! What is not to love.

Here it is with the Spruce. I wonder if the Spruce could be used as a Kamikaze late game. Agile little guy, and I think I recall seeing a picture of one with a 55 gallon drum stuffed with something in the rear seat. An Obvert picture no doubt.

If either of these had a bigger load or more bombs (like the Jake or Sonia's x 4) then I could see their use. As a kami they're really fragile, and really slow, so I'd maybe shy away from that unless it was a last resort. Weird to me the Stella is amphibious.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/22/2016 4:07:01 AM

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/23/2016 10:15:00 AM

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Obvert-

Happy to see you back in the saddle.

I will be following your war closely as I am sure El Lobo will be watching you to pick up ways to slaughter me.

*chuckling*

Have fun.

Best Regards,

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/23/2016 10:33:40 AM

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Yes. I look forward to it.

How long did it take your wife to figure out you were back in the game "for real?"

I think she knew from the beginning! I don�t think I�m half as sneaky as I think I am.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/23/2016 1:30:39 PM

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Yes. I look forward to it.

How long did it take your wife to figure out you were back in the game "for real?"

I think she knew from the beginning! I don�t think I�m half as sneaky as I think I am.

I predict that it'll be the same with me!

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/23/2016 2:49:38 PM

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Have you guys done a turn?

That first turn on a pick up is a real bear. Way worse than the Dec 7 turn...but, oh so enjoyable.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/24/2016 8:16:23 PM

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Have you guys done a turn?

That first turn on a pick up is a real bear. Way worse than the Dec 7 turn...but, oh so enjoyable.

This weekend I was away in the country in Suffolk. Had a great time staying with my wife's boss and his wife out there in a 16th century wood-framed farmhouse, eating local meats and seafood, drinking good wine from their cellar and walking a bit in the fields.

So on the train I finally got back onto the internet (not even a hint of a signal out there) and Joseph has finished his side of the turn!

I'll be getting into it in a few minutes.

We've been discussing what to keep and what to change in HRs. We'll keep pay to change [R] troops crossing land borders. I'd like to have 50 planes max for any port/airfield strikes. I think we're changing the altitude HR to 31k max.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/27/2016 4:43:49 PM

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31 October, 1943

Here we go!

Back into it. Joseph sent a turn back, and I've been digging through to see what I've been up to. Takes a while to get back in gear. I think I've looked at every base in the Empire at least twice, and some many more times. A lot left to do, so the tun won't go back to him until at least tomorrow, maybe even Wednesday.

There was very little action but a few things happen in this one that foretell a reorganization of the strategic situation.

BURMA: Joseph continues the general retreat from the block near Taung Gyi, and the IJA also begins now to shift back, aiming to be flexible and see where the Allies will go next. I have good recon on the area and there are units moving from deeper bases too. I think he may be sending the Chinese back to China or to India to improve the supply situation that must be strained in Burma. With 325,000 Allied troops on the yellow road near Lashio, another 125,000 on the road near Ramree, plus who knows how many Chinese, supply can't be too good.

In the meantime I'll be hunkering down with the air forces, waiting to see what Joseph does in the next few turns. Getting planes repaired. Letting Oscars upgrade to the IIIa, which will be nice.

He does bombard near Ramree Island against our blocking force of three Thai divs, an IJA tank div and an IJA div. The Allies have some large filled out Chinese units here and outnumber us by about 3.5 to 1. Our units are deeply dug in though, so this one will be tough to move forward with those Chinese. They don't seem to do well against fortified troops.

Here is a current shot to update the situation in Burma. The central plains are mostly deserted. A few squads of para troops in Schwebo. The fields all have near 100% damage, so each time he takes them I've bombed them again, and he's left. Then I retake with paras.

Sqz may have other ideas. Now that we've upgraded to the most recent patch the AA will be much stronger and we may not be able to reasonably keep all of these fields closed. We'll see.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/27/2016 5:04:17 PM

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31 October, 1943 [cont.]

CENT PAC: The Allies pull CV fleets back from Marcus immediately. One TF stays at Marcus, wether unloading or loading I'm not sure. The AMs in it nail RO-100 with 8 hits and it's now disbanded at Marcus with 90 float and little hope of getting fixed up. If the Allies do pull back I'll send a bit of naval support in there and hope it can get patched up a little to send back.

In the meantime I decided to move the KB back to the HI as well, hoping to keep it out of sight of the many subs in the area, and get some needed DD upgrades done. I'd also like to prepare for the next onslaught while he's regrouping, so I'll aim to send supply and a few small units to forward bases in the Marshalls.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/27/2016 5:12:56 PM

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31 October, 1943 [cont.]

SW PAC: The Allies look to be pulling the Aussie division back from Saidor. This is positive but also shows we will face a strong test in the future here. I have a few things I'd like to shore up, like adding solid troops to Umboi Island as a blocking area, with strong Rabaul on the opposite wing and a fwe secondary bases near both to support. This will be an air and ground campaign from the Japanese perspective with only the IJN assets needed to keep up supply.

I'll get some more troops onto New Guinea farther back to provide second level defenses.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs Historiker (A) - 4/27/2016 8:43:03 PM

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What does your fighter r&d look like?

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/27/2016 10:52:50 PM

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Here is the R & D situation.

The Frank has just begun production. I've got a good amount on the Ki-84b this time and want to use that plane a bunch in late 44 against daylight bombers.

The Ki-100 will be ready in early 44, which is good. I'll be transferrin Tojo production slowly to other models and just converted one factory to Franks to boost production there to over 100 to begin.

Feeling comfortable with where things are, and as a few that I won't want a production increase on reach the end, like the A6M and Oscar, I'll may convert those to late planes like the Ki-94 and jets. Still thinking on whether that is worth the expenditure in supply or not.

Let me know what you all think.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/27/2016 11:12:30 PM

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Here is production.

So far I've tried to stay conservative with most of it, but made a few mistakes as I look back. It may have seemed prudent at the time, but I don't need 60+ Kates right now for instance. I'll us that for a late war fighter soon. Might use it to build Tonys and use up engines making the Ic and Id, then upgrade to Ki-100 when it comes online.

Just got the Oscar IIIc which is not bad in late 43 and early 44. Almost 360 and CL 12.7mm guns, but of course fragile. Still, it's usable for low CAP and as escort, pretty darn good.

Peggys will probably go to the Pacific for LBA and targeting distant fields/ports. Frances is a big help here and should add punch to the IJN LBA.

I noticed in some change that the Judy D4Y1 now has a massive range increase with drop tanks. This is unexpected and great. I'll build out that model as it's the longest ranged before changing factories.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/28/2016 1:26:45 AM

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Peggy T!

Big George, Small Jack. You might miss not having more J2M3 sooner and in bigger numbers. Still, you will have them prior to the B29.

I guess Sam isn't as important in this game.

No Nick NF?

Patsy will be fun if you can use her.

Looks good to me...well, just Peggy T? Time will tell there.

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RE: The Elephant Vanishes :: obvert (J) vs SqzMyLemon (A) - 4/28/2016 7:21:28 AM

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Peggy T!

Big George, Small Jack. You might miss not having more J2M3 sooner and in bigger numbers. Still, you will have them prior to the B29.

I guess Sam isn't as important in this game.

No Nick NF?

Patsy will be fun if you can use her.

Looks good to me...well, just Peggy T? Time will tell there.

Jack will be at 105 production once the J2M5 comes online. I'll have the N1K5 this time which may be slightly better than the final Jack, and certainly should be a great bomber killer (along with the Frank b) so it shouldn't be too bad.

I can also add more by changing one of these existing Tojo or other factories over that I won't need soon.

The Nick NF comes in 4/44 so no need to research it. I'll probably use that Kate factory for it, actually. Have about 45 a month.

Not sure what you mean by "... well, just Peggy T?"

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