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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/12/2016 4:50:10 AM   
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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/12/2016 5:15:15 AM   
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"It is sometimes tougher to fight my superiors than the French" ~ Heinz Guderian



Good one! He should have done what Rommel did: Not answer the phone.

Marcus Aurelius wrote his Meditations...many awesome lines and quotes in there!

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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/12/2016 11:21:37 AM   
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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/12/2016 11:34:34 AM   
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"Yes, yes, yes, I do see that there is a real dilemma here. In that, while it has been government policy to regard policy as a responsibility of Ministers and administration as a responsibility of Officials, the questions of administrative policy can cause confusion between the policy of administration and the administration of policy, especially when responsibility for the administration of the policy of administration conflicts, or overlaps with, responsibility for the policy of the administration of policy." - Sir Humphrey Appleby


"The identity of the official whose alleged responsibility for this hypothetical oversight has been the subject of recent discussion is not shrouded in quite such impenetrable obscurity as certain previous disclosures may have led you to assume; but not to put too fine a point on it, the individual in question is, it may surprise you to learn, one whom your present interlocutor is in the habit of defining by means of the perpendicular pronoun." - Sir Humphrey Appleby

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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/12/2016 5:32:47 PM   
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"if you ask me for a straight answer, then I shall say that, as far as we can see, looking at it by and large, taking one thing with another in terms of the average of departments, then in the final analysis it is probably true to say, that at the end of the day, in general terms, you would probably find that, not to put too fine a point on it, there probably wasn't very much in it one way or the other. As far as one can see, at this stage." - Sir Humphrey Appleby


"Yes, yes, yes, I do see that there is a real dilemma here. In that, while it has been government policy to regard policy as a responsibility of Ministers and administration as a responsibility of Officials, the questions of administrative policy can cause confusion between the policy of administration and the administration of policy, especially when responsibility for the administration of the policy of administration conflicts, or overlaps with, responsibility for the policy of the administration of policy." - Sir Humphrey Appleby


"The identity of the official whose alleged responsibility for this hypothetical oversight has been the subject of recent discussion is not shrouded in quite such impenetrable obscurity as certain previous disclosures may have led you to assume; but not to put too fine a point on it, the individual in question is, it may surprise you to learn, one whom your present interlocutor is in the habit of defining by means of the perpendicular pronoun." - Sir Humphrey Appleby



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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/12/2016 6:26:17 PM   
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"if you ask me for a straight answer, then I shall say that, as far as we can see, looking at it by and large, taking one thing with another in terms of the average of departments, then in the final analysis it is probably true to say, that at the end of the day, in general terms, you would probably find that, not to put too fine a point on it, there probably wasn't very much in it one way or the other. As far as one can see, at this stage." - Sir Humphrey Appleby


"Yes, yes, yes, I do see that there is a real dilemma here. In that, while it has been government policy to regard policy as a responsibility of Ministers and administration as a responsibility of Officials, the questions of administrative policy can cause confusion between the policy of administration and the administration of policy, especially when responsibility for the administration of the policy of administration conflicts, or overlaps with, responsibility for the policy of the administration of policy." - Sir Humphrey Appleby


"The identity of the official whose alleged responsibility for this hypothetical oversight has been the subject of recent discussion is not shrouded in quite such impenetrable obscurity as certain previous disclosures may have led you to assume; but not to put too fine a point on it, the individual in question is, it may surprise you to learn, one whom your present interlocutor is in the habit of defining by means of the perpendicular pronoun." - Sir Humphrey Appleby



Was he a politician? if not he should have been.

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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/12/2016 7:06:06 PM   
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Was he a politician? if not he should have been.

"Well briefly, sir, I am the Permanent Under Secretary of State, known as the Permanent Secretary. Woolley here is your Principal Private Secretary. I too have a Principal Private Secretary and he is the Principal Private Secretary to the Permanent Secretary. Directly responsible to me are ten Deputy Secretaries, 87 Under Secretaries and 219 Assistant Secretaries. Directly responsible to the Principal Private Secretaries are plain Private Secretaries, and the Prime Minister will be appointing two Parliamentary Under-Secretaries and you will be appointing your own Parliamentary Private Secretary." - Sir Humphrey Appleby

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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/12/2016 7:40:41 PM   
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Was he a politician? if not he should have been.

Sir Humphrey Appleby is a fictional character from the awesome television series Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister.

Although I am not sure if it has aged well.

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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/13/2016 1:11:44 AM   
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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/13/2016 1:54:25 AM   
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Nobody goes there anymore, its too crowded. Yogi Berra



lol

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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/13/2016 11:31:25 AM   
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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/13/2016 5:58:18 PM   
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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/13/2016 6:10:53 PM   
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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/13/2016 6:46:13 PM   
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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/13/2016 7:39:33 PM   
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although I've also heard it as . . .

"Everyone has a plan until they get hit in the face."

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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/13/2016 9:39:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk

"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth."

although I've also heard it as . . .

"Everyone has a plan until they get hit in the face."

Mike Tyson


The original is "No campaign plan survives first contact with the enemy" (Clausewitz)

Although I very much prefer your apocryphal versions

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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/13/2016 9:48:42 PM   
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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/13/2016 11:02:18 PM   
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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/15/2016 5:44:20 AM   
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One of my favorite quotes which is as true today as when it was coined.

'Those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.'

- C.S. Lewis

And the full quote that adds even more clarity.

“My contention is that good men consistently acting upon that position would act as cruelly and unjustly as the greatest tyrants. They might in some respects act even worse. Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under of robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber barons cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some points be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to heaven yet at the same time likely to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be “cured” against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on the level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals..”

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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/18/2016 4:08:53 PM   
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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/31/2016 8:22:10 PM   
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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/31/2016 8:38:33 PM   
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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/31/2016 8:46:41 PM   
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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/31/2016 8:55:08 PM   
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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/31/2016 9:04:16 PM   
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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/31/2016 10:44:54 PM   
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“We are off to look for trouble. I expect we shall find it.”

Captain William Tennant HMS Repulse 9th December 1941


LtCmdr R. F. Harland "I think they are going to do a torpedo attack."

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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 5/31/2016 10:46:26 PM   
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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 6/4/2016 9:56:31 AM   
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"I wish Nelson would stop signalling, we all know what we have to do!"

Vice-Admiral Cuthbert Collingwood Battle of Trafalgar 21st October 1805

That is nice, isn't it. When all know what to do without anyone signalling it.

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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 6/4/2016 10:55:19 AM   
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"I wish Nelson would stop signalling, we all know what we have to do!"

Vice-Admiral Cuthbert Collingwood Battle of Trafalgar 21st October 1805

That is nice, isn't it. When all know what to do without anyone signalling it.
warspite1

The sign of a leader that has surrounded himself with the right men and has taken those men into his confidence; informing them exactly what is expected of them.

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RE: Quotes from historical figures - 6/4/2016 11:32:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

"I wish Nelson would stop signalling, we all know what we have to do!"

Vice-Admiral Cuthbert Collingwood Battle of Trafalgar 21st October 1805

That is nice, isn't it. When all know what to do without anyone signalling it.
warspite1

The sign of a leader that has surrounded himself with the right men and has taken those men into his confidence; informing them exactly what is expected of them.

Indeed.

And that the men, and leaders, have been trained to that effect.

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