KungPao
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Exactly!
Right now I am constantly switching depth, but I feel quite insecure about what I am doing.
My thoughts-
As deep as possible keeps me most distant from any surface/air sensor. Yet I have the Il-38 sensing me in 1000 ft depth. Also I assume that staying close at the sea floor may reduce the possible cone of upgoing reflections. On the other hand getting near the sea floor increases the intensity of my emissions hitting the reflecting surfaces on the floor.
Proceeding right under the layer should give me the greatest range for my passive sonar regarding submerged threads also below the layer. Yet I also spread my own emissions the most (I guess) under the layer, while keeping some cover vs. sensors above the layer.
Right above the layer lets me listen what is going on at the surface. OTOH I makes myself vulnerable to sensors above the layer.
Sometimes I intentionally climb to periscope depth, to enable my crew noticing surface vessels and aircraft along the horizon which I then can avoid to not proceed into their possible ASW traps.
My thought is in this scenario you should keep at as deep as possible, never go above layer
I tried this scenario 5 times (plus dozen S/L), it was very frustrating experience at the beginning , but I achieved victory in last two games, sink both Soviet SSBN.
In the first try my subs are moving above the layer, both Tunny and Whale were quickly sunk. Then I took other people's advise and make both my subs travel in layer, but I still receive the "torp in water, 0nm!" message.
Here are my thoughts,
1, in this scenario the layer is too shallow and too thin. If my memory is correct, it is -30m~-80m. The thin layer will not provide enough protection. in other scenario with thick layer, the layer will protect the sub from sonobuoy above and under layer . But in this scenario sub in layer will be detected by sonobuoy both above AND under layer.
2, Mother nature is not friendly to you , it is heavy rain on the Ocean surface. So forget those soviet ships, you will have a hard time to pickup surface contact. On the other hand, the soviet ships are blind too, they don't have VDS/towed arrays. If you were chased by an AT-14, that means ASW planes/Helo did find you.
3, Don't rush into the storm, plan your approaching carefully.
4, have faith in Royal Navy, they will create distraction on soviet ASW force, sometimes they can even create a miracle.
in my 4th and 5th game, I choose to keep at as deep as possible, and it works, although you might still lose sub . in the last game I even achieved the victory without S/L.
< Message edited by KungPao -- 8/10/2016 6:27:32 PM >
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"How not to be seen" as a submarine - 
) hinder shallow depth sonar buoys from picking you up as well as they should. This means although the shallows are still dangerous (especially with MAD equipped aircraft above you don't forget) they are safer than they normally would be. Also, my theory is by alternating between above and below will disrupt/break any positive sonar contact the enemy has of you..... it certainly does when the enemy subs did it during my observations. So if you plan your search patterns to have change of depths, speed and directions you should be able to incorporate these to be of benefit to your searching and defence. 
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