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RE: Turn 47 or May 7, 1942 - 8/9/2016 11:01:59 PM   
morvael


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Status: offline 		It's just showing there is a global shortage of manpower. The system doesn't allow to prioritise some formations so much, that the rest will be starved. So my divs have to make do with what is on hand. Some got two weeks off the line, but I lacked spare divisions, so some are fighting without breaks since June 41

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RE: Turn 47 or May 7, 1942 - 8/10/2016 1:28:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		The best way to prioritize manpower is setting your unit ToE levels and disband un-needed units that soak up manpower and equipment.

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RE: Turn 47 or May 7, 1942 - 8/10/2016 1:46:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Disband anti aircraft units.....also check out the German cities ...if the Russians get that far the city's ack-ack wont make any difference.

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Turn 48 or May 14, 1942 - 8/14/2016 5:13:02 PM   
cpt flam


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despite mud pocket is closed with no possibility to reopen




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RE: Turn 48 or May 14, 1942 - 8/14/2016 5:15:45 PM   
cpt flam


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two panzer corps break havoc in Crimea
few losses
1 150 for 4 030 men
30 vs 110 Art




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RE: Turn 48 or May 14, 1942 - 8/14/2016 10:49:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Holy cow, that is more than a million men in that pocket?

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RE: Turn 48 or May 14, 1942 - 8/15/2016 3:54:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ya that pocket will hurt...the only good news is, it will take him 2-3 turns to wipe it out.

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RE: Turn 48 or May 14, 1942 - 8/15/2016 5:47:27 AM   
morvael


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Status: offline 		The saga of the Orel pocket begins. It will hold out for many weeks, and will require redirecting two panzer corps to assist the infantry, because without that help they would spend whole summer mopping up. And the number of tied infantry is huge.

As for the Crimea I thought it went very bad, at the last minute I had to send one panzer corps away to help 4.PzA with the souther pincer near Orel, and I found it hard to break level 3 forts in the Crimea with just one infantry and two panzer corps.

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RE: Turn 31 or January 15, 1942 - 8/15/2016 7:34:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Shermanny

You are going to be scarily vulnerable come March 1942. The bulges on either flank of Moscow both invite encirclement. The face of his salient at Moscow might be thinly held, and in that case, he can attack out of the face and create a situation where your lines get thinner and thinner on both flanks.

Long, thin lines and exposed salients are opportunities for the highly mobile Germans.

If you were to pull back in a timely fashion, especially in the North where there is nothing that much needs to be defended anyhow, you could give some depth and mass to your defenses elsewhere.




I was afraid cpt flam would heed the advice of Shermanny, who was spot on

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RE: Turn 31 or January 15, 1942 - 8/15/2016 7:47:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would be interested in the German strength...if what I think are your numbers, it will be a limited
offensive.

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RE: Turn 31 or January 15, 1942 - 8/15/2016 8:39:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Once the Soviet defensed were unhinged, there was always a place to attack with no forts. I couldn't resist temptation and have ran down my motorized troops to 30% TOE and beyond :)

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Turn 49 or May 21, 1942 - 8/15/2016 3:26:38 PM   
cpt flam


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mud except on European part
so panzers advance




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RE: Turn 31 or January 15, 1942 - 8/15/2016 9:29:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		It will take all summer to get them back to 50%. Its a pity that we cant direct all reinforcements to
specific units.

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Turn 50 or May 28, 1942 - 8/21/2016 12:26:23 PM   
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Aleksei Grechkin (46 Army) is promoted Général-Leitenant
a new push by panzers bypassing part of my def




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RE: Turn 50 or May 28, 1942 - 8/21/2016 12:27:51 PM   
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Turn 51 or June 4, 1942 - 8/29/2016 10:41:45 AM   
cpt flam


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Status: offline 		Voronezh is threaten and first line
losses are light in my turn
3.25k for 6.45k of men
80 vs 140 Art




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RE: Turn 51 or June 4, 1942 - 8/29/2016 10:43:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		it's a pity all this mud
Crimea is doomed for now




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RE: Turn 31 or January 15, 1942 - 8/31/2016 10:09:39 PM   
morvael


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ORIGINAL: Ice

It will take all summer to get them back to 50%. Its a pity that we cant direct all reinforcements to
specific units.


Three turns on refit resulted in one motorized division go from 40% to 70%, so that's not bad. It's just hard to go above the army average %, because of built-in starvation prevention.

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RE: Turn 50 or May 28, 1942 - 8/31/2016 10:18:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cpt flam
a new push by panzers bypassing part of my def


Hard to resist going the path of least resistance when I see hexes with zero forts and clear terran versus four hexes deep lines of level 2 forts in good terrain

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ORIGINAL: cpt flam
Voronezh is threaten and first line


A few MPs short to cut off those troops between Kursk and Belgorod... One of many instances to come Mostly due to the fact that closing encirclement would require breaking main line of resistance with level 2 forts and for that lone panzer or motorized divs are too weak, while a huge number of infantry is tied by the Orel pocket. I'm short on troops to cover rapidly expanding frontlines.

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ORIGINAL: cpt flam
Crimea is doomed for now


On the first turn of Crimea operation I thought it will be a disaster, because of the one panzer corps sent away to help near Orel. But it turned out to be successful. Panzers are probing into Taman peninsula, despite shortage of infantry to cover their rear and deal with remaining Soviet units. If I remember well, that one group on the shores of Azov put up quite a fight (multiple defensive wins) and I had to send panzers to finally destroy them.

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Turn 52 or June 11, 1942 - 9/4/2016 9:22:36 AM   
cpt flam


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Status: offline 		i received 5,6 and 7 Guard Army (two of these in Orel pocket)
in the same time more troops get trapped by faster units
german mountain corp arrive near Sevastopol




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Turn 53 or June 18, 1942 - 9/11/2016 12:39:33 PM   
cpt flam


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Status: offline 		Voronezh has fallen
my attacks are pathetics
orel pocket is loosing units




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RE: Turn 53 or June 18, 1942 - 9/11/2016 12:41:52 PM   
cpt flam


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Status: offline 		Sevastopol is keeping the frontline
Kerch isthmus is passed




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Turn 54 or June 25, 1942 - 9/25/2016 4:15:00 PM   
cpt flam


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Status: offline 		a lot to tell this week
pocket is cleared except 2 guard rifle div in Orel
G Leitenant Vasily Kuznetsov (3 army) is promoted G Polkovnik
GL Leonid Govorov (30 army) moral increased to 8 (Kalinin sector)
GL Andrei Eremenko (34 army) mech increased to 6 (Voroshilovgrad sector)
a new fall back in the south




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RE: Turn 54 or June 25, 1942 - 9/25/2016 4:18:01 PM   
cpt flam


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Status: offline 		we got 6 new rifle guards div (61 now)
kerch straight is largely passed
Sevastopol continue the fight




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RE: Turn 54 or June 25, 1942 - 9/25/2016 6:23:50 PM   
morvael


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Status: offline 		Sign of poor leadership on German side: panzers in the mud, penetration without encirclement. Always a few MPs short to fully execute a plan. But this has to be done to keep up momentum and roll the flank, giving them no time to dig in.

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Turn 55 or July 2, 1942 - 10/8/2016 12:09:31 PM   
cpt flam


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Status: offline 		GL Ivan Galanin (1 Guard Army) is promoted Général Polkovnik
Guard rifle XX move to 92




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RE: Turn 55 or July 2, 1942 - 10/8/2016 12:12:27 PM   
cpt flam


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Status: offline 		that's a great panzer mass
losses from my turn
2 560 k vs 3 860 troopers
70 for 75 ART
136 vs 204 Airplanes




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Turn 56 or July 9, 1942 - 10/21/2016 5:49:09 PM   
cpt flam


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Status: offline 		another retreat to keep some strength
losses from my turn
520 vs 1 010 men
17 for 26 ART
147 vs 131 Aircraft




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RE: Turn 56 or July 9, 1942 - 10/21/2016 5:50:45 PM   
cpt flam


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Novorosiysk falled




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RE: Turn 56 or July 9, 1942 - 10/21/2016 6:47:23 PM   
morvael


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Status: offline 		Very important target, to switch supply from Kerch which is behind the straits and swamps.

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