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ORIGINAL: Coiler12

A few fairly small issues with some of the hypothetical British ships in the CWDB:

Ship #1913 Type 43
-Lacks aviation facilities that the historical design had.
Source here. (Pad on the center of the ship and a hangar capable of holding a Sea King or two Lynxes).

Ship #1501 Type 17
-Lacks the 4.5 inch MkVIII gun that was to be on the design.

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ORIGINAL: maple61

Hi .Sirius,
The “Sikorsky H-19 Chickasaw” type helicopters in the CWDB are too big. This precludes them from being loaded onto some ships that actually used them, such as the HMCS Bonaventure. Please change from “Large Aircraft” to “Medium Aircraft”.
FWIW, the dimensions listed in the DB are also wrong. Actual aircraft length is 12.92 m with a 16.16 m rotor diameter. Sub types with these issues include the HH-19G, SH-19A,B,C,D, UH-19A thru F and the HO4S-2 and -3 as used by multiple countries. The near identical Westland Whirlwind used by the UK is already listed as a “Medium Aircraft”, so it is fine.
Thanks for the hard work on the CWDB!
Cam

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ORIGINAL: msc

Would you please take a look to following untis in the cw database, perhaps an update is possible?:

#1898 - P 6092 Zobel [Type 142A] 1972-1984
Radar was KH 14/9 instead of 3RM-20
ESM was DR 875 instead of NO/VR
(possibly chaff/flares on board)
40mm - total about 3100 rnds on board! (144 rnds immediately available on each turret)
40mm/L70 Type Bofors MEL DSTY 58 radar controlled

#840 - P 6092 Zobel [Type 142A] 1962-1967
Before conversion/upgrade these boats were known as "Type 142" ("142A" after conversion)
with following equipment
conversion in 1970-1972, so Typ 142 should be in 1962-1972
"Generic optical sight"? - Galileo OGR 7 was carried
40mm - total about 3100 rnds on board! (144 rnds immediately available on each turret)
torpedos: Mk8 straightrunners, 4 tubes, max. loadout 7 torpedos (4 in tubes, 3 reserve)
photo - no M.20 radome on the "Type 142", 4 tubes instead of 2 (Type 142 looked similar
to "Jaguar class")

#841 - P 6092 Zobel [Type 142A] 1967
In the 60ies different experimental outfits for testing Standard-ASM and Seacat were tested. But no operational boat with the outfit of dbid#841

#838 - P 6059 Jaguar 1958-1967
torpedos: Mk8 straightrunners, 4 tubes, max. loadout 7 torpedos (4 in tubes, 3 reserve)

#839 - P 6059 Jaguar 1967-1978
radar: M.20 was not on board! only KH 14/9
Galileo OGR 7
ESM DR 875
torpedos: Mk8 straightrunners, 4 tubes, max. loadout 7 torpedos (4 in tubes, 3 reserve)

#845 - M 1972 Lindau (Hunter)
reduced sweeping gear was on board
2x PAP 104 hunting drones
Galileo OGR 7
ESM DR 855

#848 - M 2650 Ariadne
MCM-gear is missing
Galileo OGR 7

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ORIGINAL: cdnice

I was playing with the CWDB last night and noticed that the HO4S-2 Horse Helicopters (Canada) are all considered large aircraft when trying to add them to the HMCS Bonaventure. The Bonaventure is limited to medium aircraft on the deck, hangar and elevators. Can these be changed to medium aircraft?

Would it also be possible to add a second version that allows for 34 planes early and reduced to 21 in 1967?

"During its service life, Bonaventure carried five squadrons. Initially, she embarked 34 fixed wing aircraft and helicopters, however this had been reduced to just 21 aircraft by 1967. The McDonnell Banshee fighter, flown by VF 870 and VF 871 Squadrons, and the Grumman CS2F Tracker anti-submarine warfare (ASW) aircraft operated by VS 880 and VS 881 Squadrons were flown from Bonaventure, along with Sikorsky HO4S ASW helicopters operated by HS 50 Squadron.[6]Even with the angled deck, Bonaventure's flight deck was short for the Banshees and some US Navy pilots refused to land on her deck.[7] The long-span Trackers were also a tight fit. Despite this, Bonaventure conducted sustained around-the-clock operations, keeping four Trackers and two HO4Ss in the air at all times, which monitoring an area of 200 square nautical miles (690 km2). The Banshees were retired in 1962 but were not replaced, and in 1964 Sikorsky CHSS-2 Sea King helicopters began replacing the HO4S. When Bonaventure was retired, her former aircraft continued to operate from shore installations, including CFB Shearwater."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMCS_Bonaventure_(CVL_22)

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ORIGINAL: dontpKaniC

Hi,

Could you please add the Boeing EC-135 "Looking Glass" airborne command post to the database?
I wanted to make some 70s and 80s nuclear war scenarios, but sadly could only find the E-6, which was used for the "Looking Glass" mission from 1998 onward. Before that, the EC-135 was used for the "Looking Glass" mission. Seeing as the E-6 does appear in the database, I think it is reasonable to add the EC-135 also. The "Looking Glass" was the airborne command post of the Strategic Air Command that was in the air 24/7 for 29 years during the cold war.

Also, apart from the "Looking Glass", until 1974 the aircraft also performed the "Nightwatch" mission and was the command post of the US president in the event of nuclear war (After 1974, the E-4, which does appear in the database, replaced the EC-135 for this particular mission).

From the Wikipedia page for the EC-135, these are the variants of the aircraft:

EC-135A - KC-135A modified for airborne national command post role
EC-135B - C-135B modified with large nose for ARIA mission
EC-135C - purpose-built C-135 variant for airborne command post role, "Looking Glass"
EC-135E - re-engined EC-135N
EC-135G - KC-135A modified for airborne national command post role
EC-135H - KC-135A modified for airborne national command post role, "Silk Purse"
EC-135J - KC-135B modified for airborne national command post role, "Nightwatch"
EC-135K - KC-135A modified for deployment control duties
EC-135L - KC-135A modified for radio relay and amplitude modulation dropout capability "Cover All"
EC-135N - ARIA aircraft with "Snoopy Nose"
EC-135J/P - KC-135A modified for airborne command post role, "Blue Eagle" and "Scope Light"
EC-135Y - NKC-135 reconfigured as C3 aircraft for Commander-in-Chief, United States Central Command

I would be extremely thankful if you could add this very important aircraft to the database, especially the EC-135A, EC-135C and EC-135J variants. Without them, the big nuclear war scenarios that I had in mind just seem wrong...

Thanks.

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ORIGINAL: Overlord

DD890 Gearing FRAM 1 with SOB (Shrike On Board)

Suggest changing the 8/8 RGM-45 on the ASROC to a 4/4 version with another 4/4 reload in the magazine. Reason being is all I could find was reference to 4 Shrikes on top of the ASROC while off the coast of North VN.

First hand account from the USS Rowan here: http://tin-can.org/Battles/DD_782/dd_782.htm


Second.. can we get 6/6 ASROC weapon record? If I add the Standard ARM 2/2 to a regular ASROC..the launcher usually loads the 6/8 weapon to 8/8 ASROC PLUS the 2/2 standard. This would be for some Knox and others with ASROC pre-Harpoon.

Third..I've seen the ASROC listed with a range from 1-6 to 10 or 12 miles. Just wondering if it's known what is the correct data?

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ORIGINAL: MR_BURNS2

Loadout #205 for various Skyraider variants uses Mk82 bombs instead of the Mk81´s mentioned in the name.

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ORIGINAL: Supreme 2.0

Hi! I made a short list with correct designations, hullnumbers and names for the DDR ship database.

#1457 - 611 Hoyerswerda [Pr.109 Frosch I] --> 611 Hoyerswerda [Pr.108 Frosch I]
#1452 - 751 Max Reichpietsch [Pr.205 Osa I] --> 701 Max Reichpietsch [Pr.205 Osa I]
#1456 - 911 [Pr.131.400 Libelle] --> 900 [Pr.131.400 Libelle]
#1461 - Hai I --> V 81 [Pr.12.3 Hai II] (Sole ship in class. Renamed V 86 in 1970 and V 86 Werdau in March 1973. In service from 11 April 1963 to April 1983)
#1462 - Hai II --> 461 Grevesmühlen [Pr.12.4M Hai III] (First ship commissioned on 5th July 1965. Last ship decommissioned in February 1984)
#1450 - KSS 40 Riga Mod --> 1-61 [Pr.50 Riga Mod] (Later renamed 401 Ernst Thälmann)
#1460 - Labo Class --> 601 [Pr.46 Labo] (First Ship commissioned on 16 June 1962. All but one remaining LCMs decommissioned on 24 October 1977. Last ship renamed E 30, converted to auxiliary and continued service until 1981)
#1466 - MLR 321 Krake --> 6-92 [Pr.15 Krake] (Until three-digit hullnumbers were distributed in January 1959, hullnumbers of this class were arranged X-XX. Last ships decommissioned in 1976)
#1467 - MLR 421 Kondor I --> 301 Greifswald [Pr.89.1 Kondor I]
#1464 - MLR 611 Habicht I --> 611 [Pr.1 Habicht I] (You may want to put "1./2.BA" in side note. BA is an abbreviation for "BauAusführung" which translates to flights or builds. Last ship decommissioned 28 October 1070)
#1465 - MLR 621 Habicht II --> 621 [Pr.1 Habicht II] (You may want to put "3.BA" in side note. Same deal as above. Last ship decommissioned 28 October 1070)
#1449 - MPK SO1 [Pr.201M] --> 711 [Pr.201M SO1] (Later renamed 874 Adler)
#1459 - Robbe --> 501 [Pr.47 Robbe] (Service dates range from 10 April 1964 to 6 Octobe 1978)
#1454 - TS 101 P-6 [Pr.183] --> 5-61 [Pr.183 P-6] (New hullnumber 101 on 01.01.1959 and later renamed 202 Julius Adler in 01.03.1961)
#1461 - TS 970 Iltis --> 911 [Pr.63.300 Iltis A]


You may want to give these two websites a look. There's tons of useful data regarding the DDR Navy.

http://www.parow-info.de/b/Technik.html
http://www.vierte-flottille.de/schiffeundboote/schiffeundbootestart.php

Hope this helps and thanks!

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ORIGINAL: ColonelMolerat

I was just reading about this little US Navy sub that isn't in the game:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_submarine_NR-1

It's a research vehicle, so it's not a huge deal, but I thought it was curious enough to warrant mention (since the Alvin DSV is in the game). Seems it was used in the Cold War to retrieve sensitive technology that had sunk.

Edit:

And it had wheels!

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ORIGINAL: Luidzi

Several propeller aircrafts (so far I've found B-1, B-17, B-24, B-29, B-50, Il-4, Il-10, Il-14, there may be others) have excessively higher fuel consumption at military speed when compared to cruise speed (10-100x higher). Because several other aircrafts with piston/turboprop engines have their fuel consumption only 2-3x higher when compared cruise and military settings, I think there may be something wrong.

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ORIGINAL: stilesw

CMANO Release v1.11, SR6, Build 840.4. Database CWDB_446beta3.db3.

Missile loadout for USS Lafayette (SSBN-616) DB Entries #78 & #199. When these SSBNs are added to a scenario they show SLBM loadouts as 4 UGM-27B Polaris A2 [3MRV x W58 200kT Nuclear] DB ID #34. Checking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Lafayette_(SSBN-616) it shows that they should have 16 of these missiles as opposed to 4. Sample attached. Thanks for checking.

-Wayne

DC-2 up to three until 56.
Anson I one survived war and was used until 47.
Fouga Magister total 80 were used from 1958 to 80's
Draken S/SX version should be similar to Swedish F2 not F1 as the stats are, number of tanks vs missiles in load outs is also questionable.
Il-28 3 of aircraft were R-models and fourth was regular. None were used for bombing and all were used for target towing and naval recon. They are missing radars and so are soviet ones too.
MiG-21F-13 First ones arrived 63 not 65 and last one removed from service 86. Also some were locally modified to MGT (T=Tiedustelu=Recon). MGT had High Fix removed and only those had recon pod capability. On armament side I'm unsure of actual Finnish standard loads.

MiG-21BIS were received after 1979 so they should not be on this database.
As far as I know none of four captured PO-2 were used after 1945.
Mi-1 were used by Border Guard and Air Force, not army and there were 4 of them and used between 61-67 and they were polish SM-1 versions.
Mi-4 were used by Air Force, not army and there were 3 of them
Mi-8P were used by Air Force, total 2, received 78 or 79
Mi-8T were used by Air Force, total 4, received 73/74

Vampire Trainer Mk55 (9 of them and there were 6 of fighter versions, there was some Finnish modifications on these)
Folland Gnat Mk.1 (13 from 58 to 74)
DC-3 (9 from 60 to 84)
DHC-2 Beaver (3 in Air Force use from 58 to 71 and 3 used by Border guard from 51 to 88)
Pembroke C.Mk53 (2 in use from 56 to 68)
MiG-15UTI (4 in use from 62 to 77)
MiG-21U/UM (total 6)
Agusta Bell 206A (1 in use of Air Force from 68 to 79 and 7 used by Border Guard from 68 to 2011)
S.E.3130 Alouette II 313B (2 in use from 66 to 75 + 1 in use by Border Guard from 65 to 76)
Hughes 369HS, 369HM and 369D total 5 received 1975 (most likely 3 500C models and 2 500D models)