Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: AllenK

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ORIGINAL: Dabrion

Or just change the interface to be able to point-and-click route? Should work like this:

1) click on resource/oil/factory
2) click on a port (MWiF asserts there is a railway connection from 2) to 1), if 2) is a minor port decrease port capacity)
3) click on a series of sea zones, starting in a sea zone the port 2) is adjacenton to (MWiF assert there is a convoy chain, then decreases that chains capacity)
4) click on a port in the last sea zone of 3)
5) click on a factory/port/city (MWiF asserts there is a railway connection from 5) to 1), or 5) to 4), if 4) is a minor port decrease ports capacity)

Would be nice to be able to save entire and also sub-graphs. For example, I usually design my convoy graph in a composite way, one for India, one for Africa, one for Americas, etc. And they can have different layouts depending on what stage the game is in.

This could be implemented on top of whatever logic is already in place to make the ridiculous suggestions.

You already can manually set routes by pointing and clicking as you suggest.

The only differences are you first have to tell MWiF the resource and destination factory. Delete the route MWiF has proposed. The computer checks for 1) and 2) when you click on the first sea zone in the chain and then checks 4) and 5) when you click on the last sea zone in the chain. If there are problems you get an error message, otherwise the route is set.

As long as there are CP's in the sea-zone that aren't either being used to fulfill trade obligations or already allocated to existing manual over-rides it works pretty smoothly. If there aren't enough CP's, it doesn't work.

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ORIGINAL: Orm

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ORIGINAL: AllenK

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ORIGINAL: Dabrion

Or just change the interface to be able to point-and-click route? Should work like this:

1) click on resource/oil/factory
2) click on a port (MWiF asserts there is a railway connection from 2) to 1), if 2) is a minor port decrease port capacity)
3) click on a series of sea zones, starting in a sea zone the port 2) is adjacenton to (MWiF assert there is a convoy chain, then decreases that chains capacity)
4) click on a port in the last sea zone of 3)
5) click on a factory/port/city (MWiF asserts there is a railway connection from 5) to 1), or 5) to 4), if 4) is a minor port decrease ports capacity)

Would be nice to be able to save entire and also sub-graphs. For example, I usually design my convoy graph in a composite way, one for India, one for Africa, one for Americas, etc. And they can have different layouts depending on what stage the game is in.

This could be implemented on top of whatever logic is already in place to make the ridiculous suggestions.

You already can manually set routes by pointing and clicking as you suggest.

The only differences are you first have to tell MWiF the resource and destination factory. Delete the route MWiF has proposed. The computer checks for 1) and 2) when you click on the first sea zone in the chain and then checks 4) and 5) when you click on the last sea zone in the chain. If there are problems you get an error message, otherwise the route is set.

As long as there are CP's in the sea-zone that aren't either being used to fulfill trade obligations or already allocated to existing manual over-rides it works pretty smoothly. If there aren't enough CP's, it doesn't work.

The main trouble with this is that it works badly with joint convoy chains with Major Powers that do not co-operate. It was a serious pain with CW and France before they could co-operate.

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ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer

About convoy lines... I hate to predict problems, but what will happen if/when one or few CP's sinks?

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer

About convoy lines... I hate to predict problems, but what will happen if/when one or few CP's sinks?

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ORIGINAL: Orm

Note that the Italian submarines are included as in the previous rounds.

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ORIGINAL: Centuur

And how long did it take you to get the results you wanted. I sometimes spend more than half a day and still are not able to get things right. And that's not a fun thing at all.

No: convoy routing should give you an optimized automatic result which is correct according to the rules. If MWIF can't get that right, that part of the program is not behaving as it should.

I hate the "compute" button. And I mean I hate that button, because I have to press it and see that MWIF again makes a mess of things during the calculation that it is making...

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The process that took time was determining what MWiF was actually doing, rather than what it was supposed to be doing.

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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

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The process that took time was determining what MWiF was actually doing, rather than what it was supposed to be doing.

It would be nice to have that documented somewhere, so the rest of us don't have to discover it as well. Could it be written down?

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ORIGINAL: AllenK

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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

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The process that took time was determining what MWiF was actually doing, rather than what it was supposed to be doing.

It would be nice to have that documented somewhere, so the rest of us don't have to discover it as well. Could it be written down?

Well, as far as I could tell, MWiF was allowing US CP's to be part of the convoy chains transporting CW and French resources to the CW factories but wasn't allowing them to transport lend-lease US BP's to France. I'm not sure about lend-lease resources as I didn't particularly test that aspect.