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RE: SSG games on Steam - 6/1/2018 4:45:42 PM

RFalvo69

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Hardcover books are great, but... fact is, digital copies are cheaper, and today you can load hundreds of them on a tablet.

I'm currently running a long adventure for the Call of Cthulhu RPG - and I have everything I need on my tablet. Even notes, pictures and text fragments for the players to see when they met them, more notes and ideas on another app... The old piles of books are now on the shelf, enjoying a deserved retirement. I do love my collection (Dungeons & Dragons too, from the Basic "Red Box" to 3/3.5E) - I'm only trying to remember when it was the last time I actually opened a book.

And while I still do play wargames on the table, the instructions, if available in digital form, are on the tablet. My OCS games' manuals are all on my iPad Pro. Even here I don't think that I ever opened an actual manual even if I have the physical box. This is how things are now, and I don't thing they are bound to change back...

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RE: SSG games on Steam - 6/1/2018 7:43:22 PM

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ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

Hardcover books are great, but... fact is, digital copies are cheaper, and today you can load hundreds of them on a tablet.

If you ever attend to larger RPG events with hundreds of visitors or more, I recommend you to bring some books on the table to show them off to passing people. I have done that.

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Watch Under Siege movies with her

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RE: SSG games on Steam - 6/2/2018 11:29:01 AM

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ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

Hardcover books are great, but... fact is, digital copies are cheaper, and today you can load hundreds of them on a tablet.

If you ever attend to larger RPG events with hundreds of visitors or more, I recommend you to bring some books on the table to show them off to passing people. I have done that.

I used to bring my daughters at the "Comics & Games Fair" in Lucca (the biggest in Europe), and to run a D&D scenario for the crowd. That was ten years+ from now, and books were mandatory. Now I only play CoC with my friends, my last time in Lucca was in 2008. Good times!

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"Yes darling, I served in the Navy for eight years. I was a cook..."
"Oh dad... so you were a God-damned cook?"

(My 10 years old daughter after watching "The Hunt for Red October")

Watch Under Siege movies with her

My daughter is now 19 years old, going for 20 this late June... and I never thought once of that

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RE: SSG games on Steam - 1/27/2020 1:35:03 AM

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Why the heck, not? Battles in Italy, Battlefront and Kharkov DoD work nicely under Win10, and Italy still has a wealth of scenarios on SSG's site.

I'm an old-timer, but am enjoying these games more than a lot of "current" wargames, and the AI has been matched by very few in recent years. Otherwise, the games will just continue to languish on Matrix's site. Worst case, a nice sale to generate revenue?

Same here Rosseau,Throughout 2019 i managed to purchase all SSG games i could find on Matrix.I too cant get enough of these wargames right now why is this?Because im playing these as much as todays releases if not more.
And to see these games on Steam well that would be the icing on the cake.Steamkey to Heaven!.

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RE: SSG games on Steam - 1/27/2020 1:38:46 AM

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Yes, too bad. The unit counters still look pretty good to me at 1024x768

I agree too this is one of the reasons i love this series is the detail and all the units and its correct insignia etc :)

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RE: SSG games on Steam - 1/27/2020 10:57:15 AM

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I think it has to do with mainstream sales on Steam, GOG etc.

We just had a massive holiday sale on Steam, now there�s this Lunar sale going on too (finishes today). GOG has sales every week, and so on and so on...

A new game comes out on Steam as in a triple A title, and if you wait a month or two, it will most likely be on sale at 50% off. After that, it will go on sale every two months or so. It has become the trend for the past years, and only the fan boys/girls, or YT creators buy on day of realese. Aside from that, there is so many games to choose from now days, they might not be wargames, but if you play them or not is your problem. There in stock and make the bulk of marketing.

In other words, folks are used to sales now days, in the digital realm.

Classiscs never die, for the most part, that�s one of the reasons they are classics (wine does get more expensive with age). Go hunt for a new copy of VG�s Six Fleet, most likely you will pay circa $100 for it. Metallica�s Master of Puppets, be it CD or FLAK, no less then $20, and again, so on, and so on...

The biggest problem as mentioned here, is if it�s gonna work or not on your PC. But collectors, as in vehicles can pay, or not, big cash for spares, so it�s a bit of a double edge knife thing going on here. Like, get a 486 machine or DOSBOX,

Surely there�s argument for awhile

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RE: SSG games on Steam - 1/27/2020 3:27:15 PM

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It looks like Matrix has gathered all these titles here, as follows:

Korsun Pocket [includes TAO]
Korsun Pocket: Across the Dnepr
Battles in Normandy
Battles in Italy
Battlefront
Kharkov: Disaster on the Donets
Across the Dnepr 2

Does one need to buy them all to get them all, or are there some inclusions/carryovers?

It appears that development and support ended some years ago, does anyone know if the rights to continue development can be had?

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RE: SSG games on Steam - 2/3/2020 3:05:16 AM

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@Red2112,may i ask you a quick question mate?.I notice your using win 10,ive yet to make the jump from the Gamers OS Win7!and im nervous to say the least as i have most if not all those SSG games Decisive Battles etc up to the last one Across the Dneiper,also many many more games that seem to work great on win7,early Talonsoft stuff also early John Tiller etc,all the Original CC games and Hidden+Dangerous sabre sq. you know the likes,some or most of these are known not too work on win x10 but what do i know really as i dont have that OS yet.How are you getting on with winx10 and your old school wargames mind me asking thanks in advance..Ickie

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RE: SSG games on Steam - 2/3/2020 3:25:21 AM

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@sPzAbt653 All those SSG titles youve listed above are all i can find,im pretty sure there arent any more from SSG at least done in this series same mechanics etc same system.You can see from the first one Korsun which is excellent dont let the age put you off,you can see the change as they go along untill i think they get it right by the time ATD2 is made which is an add-on to Kharkov.(So many people are mentioning these old(well not to old to me :) )wargames lately especially in my Steam group "Fans of John Tiller Software"So they must have got something right eh?The gameplay for one as the graphics wont win any awards but goes to show a great wargame just doesnt need amazing in your face 3d gfx!.Im finding myself playing more and more of these and im even thinking of buying a 2nd hand old desktop with win xp on it just for a certain selection of wargames i have here also.There must be something missing from TODAYS wargames?.I would love to see more of SSG and the likes i really would,im gutted ive basically just come across these Aussies,better late than never i guess.More and more also i find myself searching out for untouched wargames with Original insignia/icons too,heh im a 70's schoolkid "Commando Comics" Battle and War Pic Lib.anything Fleetway.I would love to see a NEW Store that specialises in this?Matrix/Slith come close but still...im left wanting.
PS>sPzAbt653 Your Profile Icon is really really nice and well done now that's my KIND of gaming Icon right there!.Perfect to me that is just right.I would give my weeks wages for a game that consists of Tiles just like that!.Yes im sure its similar to Talonsofts Art of war 3? something like that?but i have the game and i cant find any scenario that has those amazing tiles :) IF you made it yourself Grats to a well done job.

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RE: SSG games on Steam - 2/3/2020 3:31:52 AM

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Its funny like as there are NO SSG titles to my knowledge OR John Tiller Titles for sale on Steam but i still went ahead and created the Group anyways for matches etc and the likes and it was well worth it :) Some great wargamers
all under one ROOF some are known here your ALL Welcome!

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RE: SSG games on Steam - 2/3/2020 9:18:20 AM

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So many games out there and I play Panzer Korps for my 3000th hour, just a guess, but I play everyday, maybe more like 5000 hours. Just got farming simulator 19 free on Epic. Haven't played yet.

I love SSG games and still have a few originals in the box

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RE: SSG games on Steam - 2/4/2020 6:27:58 AM

nicwb

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SSG were very good - really ahead of their time in ideas -pity the technology of the time didn't do their games full justice.

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RE: SSG games on Steam - 2/4/2020 9:36:47 AM

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I enjoyed those games more than the current games. Maybe it's old age or not the newness of playing a game against a machine.