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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 9:47:31 PM   
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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 9:48:42 PM   
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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 9:49:23 PM   
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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 9:52:12 PM   
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Mountain goats take over Welsh town in coronavirus lockdown

31 Mar 2020
https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/31/mountain-goats-take-welsh-town-coronavirus-lockdown-12483098/

"Goats have been defying the lockdown in a North Wales town by taking advantage of the quiet streets to mount a takeover. Empty roads in Llandudno proved a tempting habitat for the animals, who have been gorging on hedges and gardens."







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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 9:55:33 PM   
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It's the Apocalypse...

Mountain goats take over Welsh town in coronavirus lockdown

31 Mar 2020
https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/31/mountain-goats-take-welsh-town-coronavirus-lockdown-12483098/

"Goats have been defying the lockdown in a North Wales town by taking advantage of the quiet streets to mount a takeover. Empty roads in Llandudno proved a tempting habitat for the animals, who have been gorging on hedges and gardens."







Baaaa Humbug.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 9:56:26 PM   
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Mountain goats take over Welsh town



Isn't that the fault of the voters?

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 9:58:14 PM   
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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 9:59:38 PM   
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It's the Apocalypse...

Mountain goats take over Welsh town in coronavirus lockdown

31 Mar 2020
https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/31/mountain-goats-take-welsh-town-coronavirus-lockdown-12483098/

"Goats have been defying the lockdown in a North Wales town by taking advantage of the quiet streets to mount a takeover. Empty roads in Llandudno proved a tempting habitat for the animals, who have been gorging on hedges and gardens."








I for one welcome our new goat overlords

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 10:03:59 PM   
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It's the Apocalypse...

Mountain goats take over Welsh town in coronavirus lockdown

31 Mar 2020
https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/31/mountain-goats-take-welsh-town-coronavirus-lockdown-12483098/

"Goats have been defying the lockdown in a North Wales town by taking advantage of the quiet streets to mount a takeover. Empty roads in Llandudno proved a tempting habitat for the animals, who have been gorging on hedges and gardens."








I for one welcome our new goat overlords

But they're not keeping 6 feet apart.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 10:05:15 PM   
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London report.

Here at home. Again. As most of us are. One trip out today. Went to the park, which is a huge luxury. A little place called Wick Wood, a triangle of birch and alder between a Hackney Marshes, the A-12 highway and the Regent's Canal. We took up walking sticks and played hide and seek, and then rode out to tour the ducks in the Lea river on the way home.

I found out a student has had Covid, and her whole family has now become ill. Worrying. She looked concerned on our Zoom call today. Also, a 13 year old boy died today in a London hospital.

Some good news is that new British made ventilators are scheduled to be sent to hospitals next week. The NHS Nightingale Hospital at the Excel convention Center is nearly online, with up to 4,000 beds. The briefing tonight again offered weak responses to why more tests are not being done. They said it is a shortage of chemical reagents to do the lab analysis. I can't imagine that's the whole story if Germany is at ~ 500k tests and are shooting for 200k/day by late April.

The curve of hospital entries seems to be flattening as deaths continue up, but it seems like the lockdown is working. We had some outside work scheduled on out house, re-pointing some bricks and taking out paving. They called to say suppliers have now stopped shipping building materials, so that industry will now be shut down too.

Feel people out again, but the park busy. All keeping distance. I feel like the message is taking hold.


Dunno if you listen to James O'Brien on LBC mate, but he had a succession of very clued up callers who explained rather well (and bloody worryingly) why we are not ramping up the testing.

We just don't have the capacity, and the government are making sweeping statements every day about it rather than talking to the experts......something the UK is becoming ridiculously good at ignoring recently.

I'm sure we will get there, but Germany doing 500,000 and we can't do 10,000 suggests something is badly wrong somewhere


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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 10:06:48 PM   
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I want to be tested...oh wait...I thought this was the chlamydia thread...never mind.


Hey Cap-on a serious note:

I've been wondering WTF is up with the >50,000 'pending' COVID-19 tests in CA. Been that way for several days. What's the explanation?


Well, I sent 3 to Quest, the results took 7 to 9 days.I think they did not have enough staff to run the damn things. Seems to me the demand was predictable.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 10:12:19 PM   
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March 31, 2020


https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/03/coronavirus-pandemic-california-herd-immunity/

"It’s been well over two months since the first certified coronavirus case in the United States, so one might expect to see early symptoms of the apocalypse recently forecast by Governor Newsom.

Yet a number of California’s top doctors, epidemiologists, statisticians, and biophysicists — including Stanford’s John Ioannides, Michael Levitt, Eran Bendavid, and Jay Bhattacharya — have expressed some skepticism about the bleak models predicting that we are on the verge of a statewide or even national lethal pandemic of biblical proportions.

The skeptics may be right. As of this moment, California’s cumulative fatalities attributed to coronavirus are somewhere over 140 deaths, in a state of 40 million.'

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 10:15:58 PM   
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(From Peter Attia, MD)

Greetings -

We’ve just released a new COVID-19 episode with Michael Osterholm, an internationally recognized expert in infectious disease epidemiology:

#102 - Michael Osterholm, Ph.D.: COVID-19—Lessons learned, challenges ahead, and reasons for optimism and concern

This episode was recorded on March 30, 2020.

Once again, we’ll continue to release shorter and more irregular (schedule-wise) podcasts during this crisis.

We are continuing to update our COVID-19 specific page which houses all podcasts, Q&A videos, and patient memos regarding COVID-19. We’ll also continue to address questions received via Twitter and Instagram, and provide video updates on Instagram and YouTube as we learn more information.


- Peter


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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 10:17:16 PM   
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COVID-19 is NOT seasonal. The other Corona viruses (like causing SARS and MERS) are NOT seasonal.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 10:23:43 PM   
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Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.


I love this quote and use it a lot myself XD

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 10:32:59 PM   
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Most antibiotics are made in China and in the Lombardy region of Italy.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 10:35:10 PM   
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As at 6:00am on 1 April 2020, there have been 4,707 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Australia. There have been 348 new cases since 6:00am yesterday.

Of the 4,707 confirmed cases in Australia, 20 have died from COVID-19. More than 250,000 tests have been conducted across Australia.


They then have a graph which looks inconsistent with that; then again, there was a report a few days ago of 468 new cases, which is not on the graph either.





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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 10:39:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Some big jumps in non-Spain/Italy big European countries. UK, Netherlands, Belgium, and Germany all seeing pretty sizeable jumps.


Spain has a decline today, but still too early to tell. Italy is being stubborn though still within some range of "has probably plateaued." I can only hope that the reduction in new cases is because of a decrease in subjects and not a decrease/refocus in capacity.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 10:40:32 PM   
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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 10:45:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		This pie chart is interesting - there are now about 5 of them cruising up and down off the coast, refusing to return to their home ports (including the Bermuda flagged Ruby Princess); almost every day sick crew members are being taken off for treatment.



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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 10:46:46 PM   
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Well, who could imagine an army guy could be so smart?

By the way, my step father was in the 5th Rangers, Headquarters Battalion during the big one. Tough SOB's. He scared the hell out of me when I was a kid.


Yes, Rangers are tough. But I was never in the US Army Rangers.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 11:10:24 PM   
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https://www.health.gov.au/news/health-alerts/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-health-alert/coronavirus-covid-19-current-situation-and-case-numbers

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As at 6:00am on 1 April 2020, there have been 4,707 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Australia. There have been 348 new cases since 6:00am yesterday.

Of the 4,707 confirmed cases in Australia, 20 have died from COVID-19. More than 250,000 tests have been conducted across Australia.


They then have a graph which looks inconsistent with that; then again, there was a report a few days ago of 468 new cases, which is not on the graph either.






The reason why the graph looks like that is they are including new diagnoses as recent as yesterday. There will be many tests pending.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 11:14:45 PM   
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https://www.health.gov.au/news/health-alerts/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-health-alert/coronavirus-covid-19-current-situation-and-case-numbers

quote:

As at 6:00am on 1 April 2020, there have been 4,707 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Australia. There have been 348 new cases since 6:00am yesterday.

Of the 4,707 confirmed cases in Australia, 20 have died from COVID-19. More than 250,000 tests have been conducted across Australia.


They then have a graph which looks inconsistent with that; then again, there was a report a few days ago of 468 new cases, which is not on the graph either.






The reason why the graph looks like that is they are including new diagnoses as recent as yesterday. There will be many tests pending.



Also, weren't a lot of the positives from people returning? They come in and get tested? Then quarantined for 2 weeks whether or not they are positive? That last should help limit the spread.

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 3/31/2020 11:22:46 PM   
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Minnesota trooper's roadside gesture during traffic stop brings doctor to tears

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Facebook
A state trooper gave these patrol-issued masks to Dr. Sarosh Ashraf Janjua after he pulled her over for speeding on Interstate 35 in east-central Minnesota.
A state trooper pulled over a doctor for speeding on an east-central Minnesota interstate, told her she should know better and sent her on her way grateful for receiving only a warning and not a ticket.
The trooper also gave her a fistful of coveted N95 medical masks that were issued for his protection from the deadly coronavirus pandemic.
“I burst into tears,” Dr. Sarosh Ashraf Janjua, a Boston native and cardiologist, wrote in a detailed Facebook account of the traffic stop on March 21 along Interstate 35 in North Branch as she traveled from work in Duluth for a break in Minneapolis. “I think he teared up a little as well before wishing me well and walking away.”
Janjua also saw the masks handed to her as having value beyond their role in stemming the virus’ spread.
“This complete stranger, who owed me nothing and is more on the front lines than I am, shared his precious masks with me, without my even asking,” she wrote. “The veil of civilization may be thin, but not all that lies behind it is savage. We are going to be OK.”


https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-trooper-s-roadside-gesture-during-traffic-stop-brings-doctor-to-tears/569200342/

Then they had links to these:

Polaris resumes some production but initiates pay cuts, furloughs
Some Polaris workers will be furloughed for two weeks while others have their pay cut 20% through June.

https://www.startribune.com/polaris-resumes-some-production-but-initiates-paycuts-furloughs/569264262/

Minnesota's COVID-19 deaths now stand at 12
Two deaths and 53 new cases of COVID-19 were reported Tuesday as the the state completed its fourth day of "stay-at-home" restrictions.

https://www.startribune.com/minnesota-s-covid-19-deaths-rise-to-12-with-56-hospitalized-and-26-in-icu/569253352/

Tracking coronavirus in Minnesota

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Twelve COVID-19 patients in the state have died, according to MDH. Patients in Minnesota range in age from four months to 104 years old. In about 85% of cases, the patient experiences mild symptoms that do not require hospitalization, Gov. Walz said March 25.



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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/1/2020 1:49:22 AM   
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https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/world/2020/03/31/Top-Russian-doctor-who-shook-Putin-s-hand-tests-positive-for-coronavirus

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/1/2020 1:57:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		On the testing, I mentioned this before, but Korea went through a MERS outbreak in 2015 (this is a long thread so I reckon some reiteration doesn't hurt). Luckily, the powers that be took to heart a lot of lessons from that clusterfark (to you U.S. military guys: goat rodeo?). One was the need to fast track testing kit approval. Another was to get dedicated private testing facilities onboard for future outbreaks, as government lab facilities were wholly inadequate. So, for instance, the lab at the missus' hospital signed up to be one of those private testing facilities to be used in an emergency. The network thus established could handle 20,000 results per day with a maximum of a six-hour turnaround. That lab network served the country very well early on. I guess the point would be you could have eleventy million testing kits, but you'd still need to have a system to process those suckers [*cough* California *cough*].

A couple of weeks ago, 15-minute blood tests were introduced (the six-hour tests involve swabbing your nose and throat). The missus tells me they use these for normal patients who are about to undergo surgery. They don't want to cut you up if you have Covid.

Regarding contact with China, although we are essentially an island (the DMZ ain't too porous), we used to have beaucoups Chinese tourists flying in to buy all kinds of crap from duty-free stores, and Korean companies have a large presence in China (China is Korea's biggest trading partner). Heck, I took the family to an aquarium chock full of Mandarin speakers during the last weekend of January. The opposition party has more or less called our president Xi's puppet for never banning flights from China. Still, visits from China naturally declined quite a bit and the Korean government finally instituted a mandatory 14-day quarantine for all overseas visitors which took effect today (other more targeted measures have been in place). That pretty much puts a crimp on tourism and business trips.

Rader: Glad to hear this hasn't hit you hard. I hope it stays that way.

Stay safe!

Cheers,
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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/1/2020 1:58:10 AM   
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The woman, whose name was not released, was admitted to the IJsselland Hospital near Rotterdam a week and a half ago with breathing difficulties and tested positive for coronavirus.

She was kept in isolation but has now recovered enough to leave hospital. The centenarian, who lives independently, will rest in a nursing home before returning to her home, the hospital said on its website.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-netherlands-centen-idUSKBN21I2U1

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/1/2020 2:16:43 AM   
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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/1/2020 4:00:15 AM   
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The reason why the graph looks like that is they are including new diagnoses as recent as yesterday. There will be many tests pending.



I was consulting my physician earlier today. I asked him whether the medical authorities are announcing what are probably inflated figures. His response was to the effect:

"50% of people have an IQ of less than 100."

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RE: OT: Corona virus - 4/1/2020 4:07:44 AM   
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Also, weren't a lot of the positives from people returning? They come in and get tested? Then quarantined for 2 weeks whether or not they are positive? That last should help limit the spread.


They are now being locked down in hotels under police/military guard for 2 weeks, they don't bother testing them unless they have symptoms.

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