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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 10/31/2020 1:44:04 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		Sumatra: Jap ships were close enough for a night bombardment so I got the flyable AC out. RN pulls back to Trinkiat as they would have no effective air cover at Sabang. Quite an effective barrage

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Night Naval bombardment of Sabang at 44,70

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter VIc: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma
CA Mogami
DD Uranami
DD Ikazuchi
DD Nenohi
DD Harusame
DD Makinami

Allied Ships
xAK Jalapalaka, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
518 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 6 destroyed, 34 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 18 (2 destroyed, 16 disabled)

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 9
Runway hits 34
Port hits 26
Port supply hits 5

CA Mikuma firing at Sabang
CA Mogami firing at Sabang
DD Uranami firing at 6th British Brigade
DD Ikazuchi firing at Sabang
DD Nenohi firing at 6th British Brigade
DD Harusame firing at 45th Indian Brigade
DD Makinami firing at 21st Australian Brigade

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 10/31/2020 1:45:04 PM   
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Morning Air attack on Sabang , at 44,70

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 32
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 21

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 7 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 damaged
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 5

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 10/31/2020 1:45:57 PM   
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Morning Air attack on Sabang , at 44,70

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 23
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 7 damaged

Allied Ships
xAP Jalaratna, and is sunk

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 5

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 10/31/2020 1:48:34 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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ASW attack near Busuanga at 77,79

Japanese Ships
E Hishu
E W-25
E W-24

Allied Ships
SS Grouper, hits 6, heavy damage

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 10/31/2020 1:50:47 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Afternoon Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 26,560 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 15

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 5
A-36 Mustang x 2
P-38G Lightning x 8
P-40K Warhawk x 3
F4U-1 Corsair x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 1 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 10/31/2020 1:52:14 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1918 troops, 159 guns, 120 vehicles, Assault Value = 1356

Defending force 35214 troops, 437 guns, 360 vehicles, Assault Value = 593

Allied ground losses:
106 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 7 (6 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Assaulting units:
33rd Division
28th Division
14th Division
2nd Division
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st Art.Mortar Regiment
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
31st Infantry Regiment
762nd Tank Battalion
21st PA Infantry Division
54th British Brigade
11th PA Infantry/A Division
71st PA Infantry Division
4th Constabulary Regiment
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
11th PA Infantry/C Division
1st Constabulary Regiment
57th PS Infantry Regiment
51st PA Infantry Division
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
91st PA Infantry Division
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
182nd Infantry Rgt /1
501st Coast AA Regiment
301st PA Field Artillery Regiment
III/Prov'nl SPM Grp
!/23rd PS FA Battalion
II/Prov'nl SPM Grp
165th Field Artillery Battalion
26th PS Cavalry Regiment
88th PS Field Artillery Regiment
I/Prov'nl SPM Grp
86th PS Field Artillery Battalion
2nd PA Infantry Regiment
24th PS FA Regiment
2nd Constabulary Regiment
11th PA Infantry/B Division

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/4/2020 2:23:30 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		Ever wonder what would happen if you sailed right up to Corregidor with good supply and not a scratch on her batteries and then you started a fight?

Evidentarry this:

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Bataan at 78,77, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima
DD Shimakaze
DD Tamanami
DD Kiyonami
DD Kikuzuki
DD Mikazuki

Allied Ships
PT-103
PT-105

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/4/2020 2:24:26 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Bataan at 78,77, Range 4,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima
DD Shimakaze
DD Tamanami
DD Kiyonami
DD Kikuzuki
DD Mikazuki

Allied Ships
PT-111
PT-112
PT-113
PT-114

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/4/2020 2:29:21 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Night Naval bombardment of Bataan at 78,77 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 22 damaged
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed on ground
P-40K Warhawk: 7 damaged
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
F4U-1 Corsair: 8 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed on ground
A-36 Mustang: 1 damaged

19 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima
DD Mikazuki
DD Kikuzuki
DD Kiyonami
DD Tamanami
DD Shimakaze

Allied ground losses:
387 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 20

BB Kirishima firing at Bataan
DD Mikazuki firing at Bataan
DD Kikuzuki firing at Manila Bay Defenses
Manila Bay Defenses firing at DD Kikuzuki
DD Kiyonami firing at Manila Bay Defenses
Manila Bay Defenses firing at DD Kiyonami
DD Tamanami firing at Manila Bay Defenses
Manila Bay Defenses firing at DD Tamanami
DD Shimakaze firing at Manila Bay Defenses
Manila Bay Defenses firing at DD Shimakaze

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/4/2020 2:31:07 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/4/2020 2:32:27 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/4/2020 2:36:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

This would have been a good time to fight back. I even had the chump with the highest naval rating in charge. Pathetic.






His aggression is way too low. You need a fire eater to fire at BBs when they are firing at you. Lack of radar could also be a problem. I found IJ forts with no radar rarely hit anything at night when I bombarded from 15K yards. PTs might have helped raise the DL of the enemy for the fort guns.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/4/2020 2:50:32 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/4/2020 2:56:39 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 24,560 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 30
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 6
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 12

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 5
A-36 Mustang x 3
P-38G Lightning x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 12
F4U-1 Corsair x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ia Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 2 destroyed
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 22560 feet

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/4/2020 2:58:37 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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quote:

Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1926 troops, 159 guns, 120 vehicles, Assault Value = 742

Defending force 27248 troops, 270 guns, 270 vehicles, Assault Value = 569

Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (3 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (6 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Assaulting units:
14th Division
33rd Division
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st Art.Mortar Regiment
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
632nd Tank Destroyer Battalion
182nd Infantry Regiment
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
1st Constabulary Regiment
31st Infantry Regiment
762nd Tank Battalion
57th PS Infantry Regiment
4th Constabulary Regiment
11th PA Infantry/A Division
21st PA Infantry Division
91st PA Infantry Division
102nd PA Infantry Regiment
71st PA Infantry Division
11th PA Infantry/C Division
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
88th PS Field Artillery Regiment
I/Prov'nl SPM Grp
165th Field Artillery Battalion
2nd Constabulary Regiment



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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/4/2020 4:28:10 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/4/2020 8:04:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Why didn't you guys tell me this stuff BEFORE Corregidor got bombarded?

Corregidor can get bombarded?

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/5/2020 3:56:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

What the Hell? Not a single hit on the ships?

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Night Naval bombardment of Bataan at 78,77 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 22 damaged
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed on ground
P-40K Warhawk: 7 damaged
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
F4U-1 Corsair: 8 damaged
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed on ground
A-36 Mustang: 1 damaged

19 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima
DD Mikazuki
DD Kikuzuki
DD Kiyonami
DD Tamanami
DD Shimakaze

Allied ground losses:
387 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 20 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 20

BB Kirishima firing at Bataan
DD Mikazuki firing at Bataan
DD Kikuzuki firing at Manila Bay Defenses
Manila Bay Defenses firing at DD Kikuzuki
DD Kiyonami firing at Manila Bay Defenses
Manila Bay Defenses firing at DD Kiyonami
DD Tamanami firing at Manila Bay Defenses
Manila Bay Defenses firing at DD Tamanami
DD Shimakaze firing at Manila Bay Defenses
Manila Bay Defenses firing at DD Shimakaze



Wow, and that site even has Radar.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/5/2020 4:24:26 AM   
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With those values you were lucky to get shots off.


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/5/2020 6:10:44 AM   
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I always loved the idea of the unsinkable land-based battleship there.

Fingers crossed,
T Rav

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/5/2020 8:15:48 AM   
Cap Mandrake


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ORIGINAL: Disco Duck

Do you know what the disruption was before the attack?
With those values you were lucky to get shots off.



I think they were completely pristine.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/5/2020 9:54:39 AM   
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/5/2020 11:31:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake


quote:

ORIGINAL: Disco Duck

Do you know what the disruption was before the attack?
With those values you were lucky to get shots off.



I think they were completely pristine.

If they were pristine and couldn't hit anything . They will never hit any thing now. I see the old wash, rinse, repeat routine.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/8/2020 3:57:14 PM   
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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/8/2020 4:08:05 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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Status: offline 		I was composing an Air Combat TF with 3 USN CV and an RN Adjective Carrier...I think it was HMS Stentorious but I can't remember and the AI appoints an RN guy named Clutterbuck.


Oh, sure, the most important TF of the wah and we are going to have some guy named Clutterbuck in charge.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/8/2020 4:14:06 PM   
Cap Mandrake


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/8/2020 4:44:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		What is optimal engagement range for an Allied Air Combat TF in June 1943.

Assume mostly F6F's and SB5/SBC2 as dive bombers. That would seem near 10 max range but the AI applies coordianted strike penalties. Are those gone for the Allies now?

I think I will take a spare F6F 36 plane squadron and leave some TBF's behind.

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/8/2020 5:15:20 PM   
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***************PRFORMANCE REVIEW*************


Cpt. Clutterbuck, E.G., RN
April 30, 1943(e)

Comments: "His men will follow him anywhere, but mostly to find out what happens next."


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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/8/2020 7:25:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

What is optimal engagement range for an Allied Air Combat TF in June 1943.

Assume mostly F6F's and SB5/SBC2 as dive bombers. That would seem near 10 max range but the AI applies coordianted strike penalties. Are those gone for the Allies now?

I think I will take a spare F6F 36 plane squadron and leave some TBF's behind.


Are you looking for a carrier battle or strike at a land base? AFAIK, the Japanese still have the advantage of the 8 hex strike while your dive bombers can only do seven hexes with their full bomb load. And then there is the CV react factor ...

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RE: At dawn we slept.....in the cab on the way back fro... - 11/8/2020 8:46:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

What is optimal engagement range for an Allied Air Combat TF in June 1943.

Assume mostly F6F's and SB5/SBC2 as dive bombers. That would seem near 10 max range but the AI applies coordianted strike penalties. Are those gone for the Allies now?

I think I will take a spare F6F 36 plane squadron and leave some TBF's behind.


Are you looking for a carrier battle or strike at a land base? AFAIK, the Japanese still have the advantage of the 8 hex strike while your dive bombers can only do seven hexes with their full bomb load. And then there is the CV react factor ...


Carrier v carrier fight. So it's still 8 v 7 in the code even with SB2C and SBD5 and F6F?

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