Matrix Games Forums

 Forums  Register  Login  Photo Gallery  Member List  Search  Calendars  FAQ 

My Profile  Inbox  Address Book  My Subscription  My Forums  Log Out

[1.09.03b] cities/zones allow to play multiple cards of limited assets/artifacts

 
View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
Users viewing this topic: none
  Printable Version
All Forums >> [New Releases from Matrix Games] >> Shadow Empire >> Tech Support >> [1.09.03b] cities/zones allow to play multiple cards of limited assets/artifacts Page: [1]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
[1.09.03b] cities/zones allow to play multiple cards of... - 5/23/2021 5:25:36 AM   
phyroks

 

Posts: 41
Joined: 12/1/2020
Status: offline 		After updating from 01 to 03b you can play more than 1 Automate Cloning Facility/Gravitonic Collector/Subterran Sensor on single town. I did not have more artifact cards but it seems all of them now ignore limits?
Post #: 1
RE: [1.09.03b] cities/zones allow to play multiple card... - 5/23/2021 11:42:52 AM   
BlueTemplar


Posts: 887
Joined: 4/29/2010
Status: offline 		Related ?
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=5024042

(in reply to phyroks)
Post #: 2
RE: [1.09.03b] cities/zones allow to play multiple card... - 5/23/2021 12:45:16 PM   
phyroks

 

Posts: 41
Joined: 12/1/2020
Status: offline 		dont have cards for those so dont know, maybe? both cards should have notification saying the zone already has the asset, but artifact are not upgraded like those are.

Edit: After testing some more cards, it seems all cards under "zones" no longer check for limitations, you are also able to build multiple scientific outposts in single zone.

< Message edited by phyroks -- 5/23/2021 1:16:07 PM >

(in reply to BlueTemplar)
Post #: 3
RE: [1.09.03b] cities/zones allow to play multiple card... - 5/23/2021 2:47:21 PM   
zgrssd

 

Posts: 3385
Joined: 6/9/2020
Status: offline 		The actuall code that is in the if and set parts of Stratagems can only be changed by a new savegame.

That would mean the bug is in the code that is actually counting the amount/levels of a asset.

(in reply to phyroks)
Post #: 4
RE: [1.09.03b] cities/zones allow to play multiple card... - 5/24/2021 3:27:26 AM   
misterprimus

 

Posts: 75
Joined: 3/12/2021
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: zgrssd

The actuall code that is in the if and set parts of Stratagems can only be changed by a new savegame.

That would mean the bug is in the code that is actually counting the amount/levels of a asset.

I noticed that with the zoo, it doesn't do anything if you play it besides use up the card / PP. If you play something like a gravity power generator, you actually get another gravity power generated in that zone, so you end up with two (and get the benefit of both).

(in reply to zgrssd)
Post #: 5
RE: [1.09.03b] cities/zones allow to play multiple card... - 5/24/2021 3:27:57 AM   
misterprimus

 

Posts: 75
Joined: 3/12/2021
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: zgrssd

The actuall code that is in the if and set parts of Stratagems can only be changed by a new savegame.

That would mean the bug is in the code that is actually counting the amount/levels of a asset.

Also are you saying it's not something that can be fixed with a patch; only with a brand new game?

(in reply to zgrssd)
Post #: 6
RE: [1.09.03b] cities/zones allow to play multiple card... - 5/24/2021 10:04:42 AM   
zgrssd

 

Posts: 3385
Joined: 6/9/2020
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: misterprimus


quote:

ORIGINAL: zgrssd

The actuall code that is in the if and set parts of Stratagems can only be changed by a new savegame.

That would mean the bug is in the code that is actually counting the amount/levels of a asset.

Also are you saying it's not something that can be fixed with a patch; only with a brand new game?

I am saying the opposite - this should not be tied to a new game. The code that is executing the checks seems to be broken, so it can be fixed with a patch.

(in reply to misterprimus)
Post #: 7
RE: [1.09.03b] cities/zones allow to play multiple card... - 5/24/2021 9:42:06 PM   
misterprimus

 

Posts: 75
Joined: 3/12/2021
Status: offline 		Then it must be a recent change since this was no the case in the past.

(in reply to zgrssd)
Post #: 8
RE: [1.09.03b] cities/zones allow to play multiple card... - 5/25/2021 10:25:22 PM   
zgrssd

 

Posts: 3385
Joined: 6/9/2020
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: phyroks

After updating from 01 to 03b you can play more than 1 Automate Cloning Facility/Gravitonic Collector/Subterran Sensor on single town. I did not have more artifact cards but it seems all of them now ignore limits?

I think I see the issue, propably in the loading routines. For Cloning Facility the if logic is:
"che(249,11,ZONEID,3102)<1"
it should be "chk(249,11,ZONEID,3102)<1"

< Message edited by zgrssd -- 5/25/2021 10:26:32 PM >

(in reply to phyroks)
Post #: 9
RE: [1.09.03b] cities/zones allow to play multiple card... - 5/26/2021 2:01:43 AM   
misterprimus

 

Posts: 75
Joined: 3/12/2021
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: zgrssd

quote:

ORIGINAL: phyroks

After updating from 01 to 03b you can play more than 1 Automate Cloning Facility/Gravitonic Collector/Subterran Sensor on single town. I did not have more artifact cards but it seems all of them now ignore limits?

I think I see the issue, propably in the loading routines. For Cloning Facility the if logic is:
"che(249,11,ZONEID,3102)<1"
it should be "chk(249,11,ZONEID,3102)<1"

Huh? Is this game open source or something?

(in reply to zgrssd)
Post #: 10
RE: [1.09.03b] cities/zones allow to play multiple card... - 5/26/2021 10:40:10 AM   
zgrssd

 

Posts: 3385
Joined: 6/9/2020
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: misterprimus


quote:

ORIGINAL: zgrssd

quote:

ORIGINAL: phyroks

After updating from 01 to 03b you can play more than 1 Automate Cloning Facility/Gravitonic Collector/Subterran Sensor on single town. I did not have more artifact cards but it seems all of them now ignore limits?

I think I see the issue, propably in the loading routines. For Cloning Facility the if logic is:
"che(249,11,ZONEID,3102)<1"
it should be "chk(249,11,ZONEID,3102)<1"

Huh? Is this game open source or something?

I turned on Debug Mode - that way I can see the data from the running game.

(in reply to misterprimus)
Post #: 11
RE: [1.09.03b] cities/zones allow to play multiple card... - 6/1/2021 7:52:27 AM   
Vic


Posts: 8262
Joined: 5/17/2004
Status: offline 		@zgr
Nice try. But "che" is an allias for "chk" :)

@anybody
If you can get me savefile to illustrate this i'll find out what is going on for the next patch. Please email it to vic@vrdesigns.net and link to this thread.

best wishes,
Vic

_____________________________

Visit www.vrdesigns.net for the latest news, polls, screenshots and blogs on Shadow Empire, Decisive Campaigns and Advanced Tactics

(in reply to zgrssd)
Post #: 12
RE: [1.09.03b] cities/zones allow to play multiple card... - 6/1/2021 9:53:19 AM   
bavarian kid

 

Posts: 25
Joined: 4/8/2015
Status: offline 		sample file for this issue and https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=5024042 issue has been sent

(in reply to Vic)
Post #: 13
RE: [1.09.03b] cities/zones allow to play multiple card... - 6/1/2021 12:07:44 PM   
zgrssd

 

Posts: 3385
Joined: 6/9/2020
Status: offline
quote:

@zgr
Nice try. But "che" is an allias for "chk" :)

It would still work if it was simply the Alias that is broken, so the game would complain about that "che" thing being a unknown order

It would not be a issue if the alias works. But as the saying goes: "If - and only if!"

Given that we have at least 3 people observing this, it is likely to be a systemic issue.

< Message edited by zgrssd -- 6/1/2021 12:08:49 PM >

(in reply to Vic)
Post #: 14
RE: [1.09.03b] cities/zones allow to play multiple card... - 6/1/2021 2:44:46 PM   
Vic


Posts: 8262
Joined: 5/17/2004
Status: offline 		Thanks for save files (JH, Christian)! Will be fixed upcoming patch.

_____________________________

Visit www.vrdesigns.net for the latest news, polls, screenshots and blogs on Shadow Empire, Decisive Campaigns and Advanced Tactics

(in reply to zgrssd)
Post #: 15
Page:   [1]
All Forums >> [New Releases from Matrix Games] >> Shadow Empire >> Tech Support >> [1.09.03b] cities/zones allow to play multiple cards of limited assets/artifacts Page: [1]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts


Forum Software © ASPPlayground.NET Advanced Edition 2.4.5 ANSI

0.734