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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 1/31/2022 2:22:19 PM   
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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 1/31/2022 2:26:38 PM   
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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 1/31/2022 2:27:02 PM   
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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 1/31/2022 2:39:07 PM   
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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 1/31/2022 2:49:44 PM   
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You can evacuate everything during 1 turn?


Yes, I don't think there's a delay? Certainly, everything had left Kharkov.

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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 1/31/2022 2:56:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Overall a quiet turn besides hitting regiments. A potential pocket forming against us in Centre, we'll see if he closes it. He has a panzer on reserve for whatever reason, which is why those 2 holds were holds.

But hey it drains his MP for only a few thousand dead, so I'll take it.




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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 1/31/2022 3:08:24 PM   
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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 1/31/2022 3:14:16 PM   
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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 1/31/2022 3:20:51 PM   
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Is there any reason for not using GS during your attacks? Or you are so confident that is it not worth to make additional clicks?


I've found it does very little, and I'd rather suicide my planes interdicting/ground bombing.

German regiments are terrible, and their CVs wildly misleading. It's almost never worth it to break them down except in the VL deadzone with tons of heavy forest and the like. Soviets can reliably hit them, as I have been doing.

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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 1/31/2022 3:37:34 PM   
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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 1/31/2022 3:42:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think I saw some pretty good men disruption in my game when Soviets attack me. Maybe 1k people. Or maybe I am confusing it with something else.

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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 2/1/2022 1:28:03 AM   
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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 2/1/2022 1:31:46 AM   
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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 2/1/2022 1:32:17 AM   
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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 2/1/2022 1:32:48 AM   
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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 2/1/2022 1:33:14 AM   
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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 2/1/2022 1:34:14 AM   
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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 2/1/2022 1:34:49 AM   
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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 2/1/2022 1:56:26 AM   
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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 2/1/2022 2:19:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wikipedia says the Germans lost roughly 2,735 tanks during Barbarossa. We approach pretty historical numbers!

Of course, the Soviets also suffered 3 million more casualties, so...

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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 2/1/2022 7:44:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RedJohn]Look at that German SU commitment to a hasty!


After some recent changes they have chance to commit to a battle during hasty attack. But they were always displayed on the battle report screen, even if they do not participate in a battle. Probably it is a case now.

It is nice to be a Soviet player, German get close to historical losses while Soviets have 3 mil more alive, and same pattern across multiple games.

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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 2/1/2022 7:42:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 14. Some slight pushing at Crimea, but the entrances still hold. No attacks at Leningrad, 2 attacks at the Moscow front. Majority of the action is centered around Kursk, which risks envelopment.




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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 2/1/2022 7:44:37 PM   
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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 2/1/2022 8:03:27 PM   
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It is nice to be a Soviet player, German get close to historical losses while Soviets have 3 mil more alive, and same pattern across multiple games.


I think the German manpower losses tend to be less than historical. The German AFV losses are higher relative to the manpower losses because of how vulnerable/brittle Panzers/AFVs are (and also because Soviet players will deliberately target them for that reason, while generally leaving motorized divisions alone).

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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 2/1/2022 8:03:50 PM   
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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 2/1/2022 8:05:15 PM   
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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 2/1/2022 10:41:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 15. Kursk with it's 2 beaten up units are encircled, Orel is threatened. No attacks at Leningrad, Vyazma, or Stalino.




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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 2/1/2022 10:42:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Bobkin is also encircled as you can see above, thankfully they can just leave the pocket.

Anyway, my OOB is close to 4m. Will probably reach it during mud, and then I get another 500,000 on turn 24 before blizzard. Snow will be the last chance, it seems, for the axis to deal a blow to my OOB.




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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 2/1/2022 11:00:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		That seems a quick and premature game over for the German player from my perspective.
If you play with VPs I doubt they have the needed to survive the first VP check. But even if they manage, it's more due to Soviet concession than their real advance.

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RE: The Red Army Is (Not) Overpowered - A tongue in che... - 2/1/2022 11:02:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AlbertN

That seems a quick and premature game over for the German player from my perspective.
If you play with VPs I doubt they have the needed to survive the first VP check. But even if they manage, it's more due to Soviet concession than their real advance.


He will meet the HWM due to Kursk falling, but just barely. Orel might also fall, which will give him some safety net.

There is a realistic chance of sudden victory though, yes.

Anyway I formed a new army under Vatutin, made up of all cavalry. These have 0 losses and will be used as the backbone for my cavalry corps.




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