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RE: Why all this aversion when it comes to Hearts of Ir... - 12/21/2004 9:45:56 AM   
dinsdale


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Well Les, I'm sure after stealing the game to prove to people who called you out on criticising a game you'd never played, that you had a really open mind

There's probably a clinical description for those who hate something simply because it exists, which appears to be your position on Paradox. At least Ravinhood, who probably hates HOI more than you, contributed something and bought the game which prompted his dislike of it and of Paradox's release-whenever-it's-almost-finished policy, but for you, why do you bother?

Anyway, hopefully WiF and the A3R game will live up to the gaping vacuum in grand strategy WW2 games. At the moment there really aren't any which have managed to overcome design problems and terrible AI's, and I have little need for Risk++ branded World At War.

What would be great would be to see the makers or KP or HTTR branch out from the tactical as those two and Battlefront are really the only accomplished WW2 game developers who've accomplished anything beyond the mediocre these last few years

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RE: Why all this aversion when it comes to Hearts of Ir... - 12/21/2004 10:13:10 AM   
dinsdale


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quote:

ORIGINAL: EricGuitarJames
Unless you have never....

Depends where you are.

quote:

videoed a tv show

legal in the US

quote:

borrowed a video game

legal in the US

Even some taping of CDs is allowed, so not everyone is quite the thief you make out

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RE: Why all this aversion when it comes to Hearts of Ir... - 12/21/2004 12:29:39 PM   
Grouchy


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ORIGINAL: EricGuitarJames
Unless you have never recorded a friend's CD, videoed a tv show, or borrowed a video game (all of which are technically illegal unless you have the appropriate licence), one should not start berating others for theft.


Depends where you live I guess. Nothing (technically) illegal about that here in my country.

As for buying HOI, I wait this time until the verdicts are in. Demo didn't convince me to buy it. Almost everything what i find intresting is stripped from it (R&D, production etc)..not a good demo.

< Message edited by Grouchy -- 12/21/2004 11:43:18 AM >


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RE: Why all this aversion when it comes to Hearts of Ir... - 12/21/2004 3:18:05 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dinsdale

quote:

ORIGINAL: EricGuitarJames
Unless you have never....

Depends where you are.

quote:

videoed a tv show

legal in the US

quote:

borrowed a video game

legal in the US

Even some taping of CDs is allowed, so not everyone is quite the thief you make out



Sweet!

*runs off to buy a VCR and find some friends to trade games with*

< Message edited by EnPeaSea -- 12/21/2004 1:18:19 PM >

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RE: Why all this aversion when it comes to Hearts of Ir... - 12/21/2004 3:23:17 PM   
EnPeaSea


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Anyway, this season could be pretty good for grand strategic WWII games. With HoI2, GG's World at War, and Strategic Command 2 all coming out; there will be plenty to choose from.


Is WIF scheduled for a 2005 release?

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RE: Why all this aversion when it comes to Hearts of Ir... - 12/21/2004 3:36:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Koper

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Interesting though, how many people have joined this thread with only single digit sums of posts to their credit eh.


And you feel SOOOO much better, having those 3 digits under your avatar?

Pathetic...


Hmmm maybe he DOESN'T really know me?

Ok loser listen up, it isn't three digits, try 4.
It isn't just Hexed Gamer, its Les the Sarge 9-1
Following the bouncing ball?
If I cared a hoot for your sum of posts or mine I might not have dumped the old account.
The old acount was here before most of this forum existed.
And no, my join date doesn't count for anything either.

My point was, the thread appears to have drawn out a lot of new first time posters.
It wasn't a comment on the worth, merely a comment that it might have drawn a lot of attention.

As for people actually thinking that actually putting me down for not paying for Paradox's ****ty game, get real, your criticsm of my decision to do that is worth less than their game.

"There's probably a clinical description for those who hate something simply because it exists"

Then again maybe there isn't.

Maybe there is a clinical description for people dumb enough to buy anything, even when well informed opinion tells them they might wish to reconsider.

Maybe if you all voice your opinion enthusiastically enough, that the world is flat, you can get everyone to reconsider and accept that too.

I think 2004 will go down as the year I stopped thinking wargamers were generally speaking a cut above intellectually.
It appears computer wargames might be dulling the cutting edge by making it too easy.
I could be wrong, but the magnitude of moronic discussions I have witnessed is sure on the increase.

Note to self, stop talking with idiots so much.

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RE: Why all this aversion when it comes to Hearts of Ir... - 12/21/2004 4:15:22 PM   
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This really spiraled out of control now didn't it?

Aside from the talk about software piracy of which Matrix Games does NOT support in any way, shape or form.....the personal insults are a no go at this station. Period. Some of you may not be aware of that but the old timers round dese parts do know that policy especially you Les. Your repeated personal insults in this thread merit a two week vacation. Enjoy the break.

Locking up.

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