Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe)

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RUPD3658 -> Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) (1/18/2007 2:38:06 AM)
Ran the turn Kenny sent me and I am not sure if I made out any better. The points came out in favor of Kenny. The real turn saw him score 1028 to my 521 (+507 Allied) and this one saw him score 1958 to my 1218 (+740 Allied) I have sent the turn back without orders so he can inspect his ships. Maybe he will want to go with the bloodier turn. End result: Japan: Sunk: 3 CV 1 CVL 1 CVE 1 CA 4 CL 1 DD Will sink next turn: 1 CVL 1CVE 3 BB including Musashi 1 CS 2 DD Allied: Sunk: 1 CVL 2 CVE 2 BB including POW 4 CA 2 CL 2 DD Will sink: ? AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/31/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 75,57 Japanese Ships DD Murakumo DD Samidare Allied Ships SS Barb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 64,99 Japanese Ships SS I-6 Allied Ships CA Australia -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 82,62 Japanese Ships DD Yamakaze DD Harusame DD Kiyonami Allied Ships SS Cod, hits 6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 78,59 Japanese Ships DD Hatakaze DD Amatsukaze DD Oyashio DD Arashio DD Arashi DD Hayashio DD Hatsuharu DD Hagikaze CA Kinugasa Allied Ships SS Barb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32 Japanese aircraft Ki-21 Sally x 95 Ki-49 Helen x 65 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 262 casualties reported Airbase hits 4 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 115 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Samo , at 62,88 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 3 Liberator VI x 126 P-40B Tomahawk x 20 Allied aircraft losses Liberator VI: 4 damaged Japanese ground losses: 39 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 19 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 110 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 82,62 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 8 A6M5 Zeke x 40 A6M3a Zero x 155 Allied aircraft TBM Avenger x 9 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3a Zero: 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 9 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 84,62 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 3 D3A Val x 119 D4Y Judy x 27 A6M3a Zero x 20 B5N Kate x 116 B6N Jill x 18 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 63 F6F Hellcat x 21 Corsair IV x 11 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed D3A Val: 70 destroyed D4Y Judy: 7 destroyed, 3 damaged A6M3a Zero: 16 destroyed B5N Kate: 68 destroyed B6N Jill: 3 destroyed, 10 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged F6F Hellcat: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged Corsair IV: 1 damaged Allied Ships CVE Chenango, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage CVL Hermes, Bomb hits 1 CVL Belleau Wood, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage CVE Suwannee, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CVE Sangamon CLAA Juneau ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 84,62 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 3 A6M3a Zero x 15 B5N Kate x 41 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 29 F6F Hellcat x 9 Corsair IV x 8 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 9 destroyed B5N Kate: 16 destroyed, 9 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged F6F Hellcat: 5 destroyed Allied Ships CVE Sangamon, Torpedo hits 1, on fire CVL Hermes, Torpedo hits 1 CVL Belleau Wood, on fire, heavy damage CVE Suwannee, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CLAA Juneau, Torpedo hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63 Allied aircraft F-5A Lightning x 2 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 216th USA Coast AA Regiment, at 82,63 Japanese aircraft A6M3a Zero x 9 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 19 F6F Hellcat x 122 Corsair IV x 15 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 26th USA FA Brigade, at 82,63 Japanese aircraft A6M3a Zero x 3 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 19 F6F Hellcat x 122 Corsair IV x 15 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 40th USA/C Division, at 82,63 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 9 A6M3a Zero x 9 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 19 F6F Hellcat x 122 Corsair IV x 15 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 9 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 7 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 27th USA Division, at 82,63 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 49 A6M3a Zero x 39 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 19 F6F Hellcat x 122 Corsair IV x 15 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 49 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 37 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed F6F Hellcat: 9 destroyed, 6 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 82,62 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 8 A6M5 Zeke x 36 A6M3a Zero x 131 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 26 F6F Hellcat x 92 SBD Dauntless x 109 Barracuda x 13 TBF Avenger x 38 TBM Avenger x 52 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2-N Rufe: 8 destroyed A6M5 Zeke: 22 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 94 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 18 destroyed F6F Hellcat: 52 destroyed SBD Dauntless: 3 destroyed, 13 damaged Barracuda: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged TBF Avenger: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged TBM Avenger: 6 destroyed, 3 damaged Japanese Ships CV Hiryu, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage CV Soryu, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage CVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire CVE Kaiyo, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 82,62 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 7 A6M3a Zero x 18 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 12 SBD Dauntless x 4 TBM Avenger x 4 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 1 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 12 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 82,62 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 6 A6M3a Zero x 12 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 13 SBD Dauntless x 24 TBM Avenger x 10 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 2 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 10 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed TBM Avenger: 1 damaged Japanese Ships CVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 82,62 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 5 A6M3a Zero x 7 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 4 SBD Dauntless x 27 TBM Avenger x 10 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 2 damaged TBM Avenger: 3 damaged Japanese Ships CVL Ryujo, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 82,62 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 10 A6M3a Zero x 13 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 4 SBD Dauntless x 31 TBM Avenger x 15 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3a Zero: 4 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed SBD Dauntless: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged TBM Avenger: 1 damaged Japanese Ships CVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 84,62 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft Corsair IV x 9 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Corsair IV: 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 84,62 Japanese aircraft G4M2 Betty x 11 Allied aircraft Corsair IV x 9 Japanese aircraft losses G4M2 Betty: 9 damaged Allied Ships CVE Sangamon, on fire CLAA San Diego, Torpedo hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Wake Island, at 82,63 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 8 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships CL Detroit CA Baltimore, Shell hits 3 CA Wichita BB Prince of Wales BB Massachusetts BB South Dakota BB Washington BB North Carolina Japanese ground losses: 2118 casualties reported Guns lost 11 Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 27 Port hits 3 Port fuel hits 2 Port supply hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Wake Island Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 22687 troops, 117 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 677 Defending force 111591 troops, 695 guns, 263 vehicles, Assault Value = 2385 Allied ground losses: 127 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12442 troops, 403 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1932 Defending force 313237 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10572 Allied ground losses: 419 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Wake Island Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 4119 troops, 147 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2385 Defending force 29838 troops, 118 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 677 Japanese ground losses: 134 casualties reported Guns lost 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/01/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 82,62 Japanese Ships CV Shokaku DD Hatsuzuki DD Susuzuki DD Teruzuki DD Akizuki Allied Ships SS Cod -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese Ships BB Haruna, Torpedo hits 1, on fire DD Hakaze DD Minekaze DD Oite DD Satsuki Allied Ships SS Dragonet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese Ships BB Hiei, Shell hits 16, on fire CA Kako, Shell hits 3 CL Oyodo, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage CL Agano CL Noshiro, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CL Sendai CL Jintsu, Shell hits 2 CL Isuzu, Shell hits 3 CL Natori, Shell hits 19, on fire CL Yura, Shell hits 40, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CL Kinu, Shell hits 10 CL Kuma, Shell hits 8 CL Tama, Shell hits 3 CL Kiso, Shell hits 6 CL Kitakami, Shell hits 1, on fire CL Tatsuta CL Yubari, Shell hits 1 DD Onami, Shell hits 2 DD Hibiki DD Amagiri DD Mutsuki DD Tomozuru, Shell hits 2, on fire Allied Ships CA Portland, Shell hits 2 CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 1 CA San Francisco CA Vincennes, Shell hits 6 CA Devonshire, Torpedo hits 1 CA Cornwall, Shell hits 2 CL Perth, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire CL Mauritius, Shell hits 4 CL Mobile, Shell hits 19, Torpedo hits 3, on fire DD Cony DD Dashiell, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Eaton, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Halford, Shell hits 1 DD Harrison, Shell hits 1, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships BB Hiei, Shell hits 4, on fire CA Kako, Shell hits 5, on fire CL Oyodo, Shell hits 14, and is sunk CL Agano, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage CL Noshiro, Shell hits 7, and is sunk CL Sendai, Shell hits 1 CL Jintsu, Shell hits 2, on fire CL Isuzu, Shell hits 7, on fire CL Natori, Shell hits 17, on fire, heavy damage CL Yura, Shell hits 12, on fire, heavy damage CL Kinu, Shell hits 7 CL Kuma CL Tama, Shell hits 3 CL Kiso, Shell hits 5 CL Kitakami, Shell hits 2, on fire CL Tatsuta CL Yubari DD Onami, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Hibiki DD Amagiri DD Mutsuki DD Tomozuru, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships CA Portland, Shell hits 2 CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage CA San Francisco, Shell hits 1, on fire CA Vincennes CA Devonshire, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CA Cornwall, Shell hits 4 CL Perth, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk CL Mauritius, Shell hits 2 CL Mobile, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Cony DD Dashiell, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Eaton, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage DD Halford, Shell hits 1 DD Harrison, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63 Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 1 destroyed Walrus: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships BB Mutsu, Shell hits 2 BB Musashi, Shell hits 2, on fire BB Fuso, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage BB Ise, Shell hits 1, on fire BB Hyuga, Shell hits 10, on fire CA Haguro, Shell hits 20 CA Nachi, Shell hits 3 CA Mogami, Shell hits 13 CA Mikuma, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage CA Kumano, Shell hits 1 CA Aoba, Shell hits 4 CA Furutaka, Shell hits 1 DD Niizuki DD Akigumo DD Makinami DD Tamanami DD Ikazuchi Allied Ships BB North Carolina, Shell hits 4, on fire BB Washington, Shell hits 27, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk BB South Dakota, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage BB Massachusetts, Shell hits 1 BB Prince of Wales, Shell hits 21, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk CA Wichita, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage CA Baltimore, Torpedo hits 1 CL Detroit, Shell hits 3 DD Conway, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD John Rodgers DD Spence, Shell hits 13, on fire DD Taylor, Shell hits 1, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese Ships BB Mutsu BB Musashi, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage BB Fuso, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage BB Ise, Shell hits 10, on fire BB Hyuga, Shell hits 6, on fire CA Haguro, Shell hits 5, on fire CA Nachi, Shell hits 6, on fire CA Mogami CA Mikuma, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage CA Kumano, Shell hits 8 CA Aoba, Shell hits 5 CA Furutaka, Shell hits 3 DD Niizuki, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Akigumo, Shell hits 3, and is sunk DD Makinami, Shell hits 4, on fire DD Tamanami, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Ikazuchi, Shell hits 3, on fire Allied Ships BB Nevada, Shell hits 1 BB Oklahoma CA Northampton CA Houston, Shell hits 1 CA Chester CA Louisville, Shell hits 1, on fire CA Pensacola CL De Ruyter CL Richmond, Shell hits 1 CL Raleigh, Shell hits 1 DD Philip, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Pringle, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Sigsbee, Shell hits 1 DD Gwin, Shell hits 1 DD Grayson DD Sampson, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Benham DD Ellet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63 Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 4 destroyed Japanese Ships BB Kongo, Shell hits 2 BB Haruna, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage BB Kirishima BB Nagato, Shell hits 1 BB Yamato BB Yamashiro CA Tone, Shell hits 1 CA Chikuma, Shell hits 2 CA Atago CA Chokai DD Satsuki DD Oite DD Minekaze, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage DD Hakaze, Shell hits 5 DD Tsuga, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Hasu Allied Ships BB Nevada, Shell hits 6, on fire BB Oklahoma, Shell hits 3, on fire CA Northampton, Shell hits 25, and is sunk CA Houston, Shell hits 1, on fire CA Chester, Shell hits 21, and is sunk CA Louisville, Shell hits 13, and is sunk CA Pensacola, Shell hits 3 CL De Ruyter, Shell hits 2, on fire CL Richmond, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CL Raleigh, Shell hits 13, on fire, heavy damage DD Philip, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Pringle, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage DD Sigsbee, Shell hits 4 DD Gwin DD Grayson, Shell hits 1 DD Sampson, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage DD Benham, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage DD Ellet, Shell hits 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63 Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 4 destroyed Japanese Ships BB Kongo, Shell hits 1 BB Haruna, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage BB Kirishima BB Nagato, Shell hits 1 BB Yamato, Shell hits 2 BB Yamashiro, Shell hits 1 CA Tone CA Chikuma, Shell hits 1 CA Atago CA Chokai DD Satsuki, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Oite DD Minekaze, on fire, heavy damage DD Hakaze DD Tsuga, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Hasu Allied Ships CA Portland, Shell hits 3, and is sunk CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CA San Francisco, Shell hits 1, on fire CA Vincennes, Shell hits 2 CA Devonshire, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage CA Cornwall, Shell hits 1, on fire CL Mauritius CL Mobile, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Cony DD Dashiell, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage DD Eaton, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Halford DD Harrison, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese Ships BB Haruna, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Hakaze DD Minekaze, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Dragonet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Wake Island, at 82,63 Allied Ships CL Raleigh, on fire, heavy damage CL Richmond, on fire, heavy damage CL De Ruyter, on fire CA Pensacola CA Houston, on fire BB Oklahoma, on fire BB Nevada, on fire Japanese ground losses: 320 casualties reported Guns lost 7 Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 9 Port hits 2 Port supply hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 82,62 Japanese Ships CS Mizuho, Torpedo hits 1 DD Ariake DD Umikaze DD Fujinami DD Suzunami DD Takanami Allied Ships SS Cod, hits 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32 Japanese aircraft Ki-21 Sally x 98 Ki-49 Helen x 76 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 105 casualties reported Airbase hits 5 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 95 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Samo , at 62,88 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 9 Liberator VI x 131 P-40B Tomahawk x 32 Allied aircraft losses Liberator VI: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 48 casualties reported Guns lost 3 Airbase hits 10 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 150 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 15 A6M3a Zero x 36 Allied aircraft F-5A Lightning x 2 No Japanese losses No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 26th USA FA Brigade, at 82,63 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 6 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 14 F6F Hellcat x 95 Corsair IV x 15 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 40th USA/C Division, at 82,63 Japanese aircraft A6M3a Zero x 15 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 14 F6F Hellcat x 95 Corsair IV x 15 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3a Zero: 15 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 40th USA/A Division, at 82,63 Japanese aircraft A6M3a Zero x 3 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 13 F6F Hellcat x 95 Corsair IV x 15 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 27th USA Division, at 82,63 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 55 A6M3a Zero x 27 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 13 F6F Hellcat x 95 Corsair IV x 15 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 53 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 24 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged F6F Hellcat: 9 destroyed, 2 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 79,61 Japanese aircraft A6M2-N Rufe x 1 A6M5 Zeke x 11 A6M3a Zero x 18 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 12 SBD Dauntless x 10 TBM Avenger x 8 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed A6M5 Zeke: 4 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 4 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 2 destroyed SBD Dauntless: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged TBM Avenger: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged Japanese Ships CVL Shoho CVL Zuiho, Torpedo hits 1 CVE Chuyo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 79,61 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 7 A6M3a Zero x 14 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 16 F6F Hellcat x 57 SBD Dauntless x 107 Barracuda x 12 TBF Avenger x 37 TBM Avenger x 35 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zeke: 7 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 14 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 10 damaged TBF Avenger: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged TBM Avenger: 10 damaged Japanese Ships CVL Ryuho, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage CVE Shinyo CV Taiho, Bomb hits 7, on fire CV Hiyo, Bomb hits 10, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 79,61 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 6 SBD Dauntless x 28 TBM Avenger x 6 Allied aircraft losses SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged TBM Avenger: 3 damaged Japanese Ships CVE Shinyo, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CV Taiho, Bomb hits 1, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 79,61 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 12 SBD Dauntless x 42 TBM Avenger x 37 Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 5 damaged Japanese Ships CVE Shinyo, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage CV Taiho, Bomb hits 4, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 84,62 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 3 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged Allied Ships BB Oklahoma -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 83,63 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 5 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged Allied Ships DD Dewey -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63 Allied aircraft F-5A Lightning x 2 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 86,61 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 4 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 4 damaged Allied Ships CA San Francisco, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 85,62 Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zeke x 3 A6M3a Zero x 15 B5N Kate x 11 Japanese aircraft losses B5N Kate: 4 damaged Allied Ships CVE Suwannee, on fire, heavy damage CVL Belleau Wood, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 85,62 Japanese aircraft B5N Kate x 4 Japanese aircraft losses B5N Kate: 1 damaged Allied Ships CVE Suwannee, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 85,62 Japanese aircraft B5N Kate x 5 Japanese aircraft losses B5N Kate: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CVL Belleau Wood, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 85,62 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 3 No Japanese losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 82,62 Japanese Ships CS Mizuho, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Ariake DD Umikaze DD Fujinami DD Suzunami DD Takanami Allied Ships SS Cod, hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 79,61 Japanese Ships DD Yayoi Allied Ships SS Dorado -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese Ships SS RO-33, hits 4, on fire Allied Ships DD Ralph Talbot DD Mugford DD Blue DD Schroeder DD Guest DD Daly CL St. Louis CVL Cabot CVL Independence CV Bunker Hill CV Hornet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Wake Island Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 22170 troops, 121 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 805 Defending force 112142 troops, 704 guns, 266 vehicles, Assault Value = 2406 Allied ground losses: 70 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12412 troops, 399 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1935 Defending force 312883 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10573 Allied ground losses: 267 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Wake Island Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 4174 troops, 148 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2406 Defending force 34137 troops, 144 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 805 Japanese ground losses: 81 casualties reported Guns lost 3

Nemo121 -> RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) (1/18/2007 2:57:40 AM)
Hmm, does your opponent have anything to say about his surface combat TFs? I've read a lot of Tom Hunter's stuff re: SC TF composition and in following much of what he pointed to ( and doing a bit of experimenting of my own) I've got a lot of bang out of fairly small SC TFs. Your opponent's SC TFs run almost entirely contrary what Hunter's findings and my own experiments would suggest are succesful. Why did you both go with such huge TFs which would ensure that a lot of your major ships in each TF would sit out some of the battles? Were you looking for redundancy in 2nd and 3rd rounds?

KDonovan -> RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) (1/18/2007 3:11:46 AM)
quote: Status: online Hmm, does your opponent have anything to say about his surface combat TFs? I've read a lot of Tom Hunter's stuff re: SC TF composition and in following much of what he pointed to ( and doing a bit of experimenting of my own) I've got a lot of bang out of fairly small SC TFs. Your opponent's SC TFs run almost entirely contrary what Hunter's findings and my own experiments would suggest are succesful. Why did you both go with such huge TFs which would ensure that a lot of your major ships in each TF would sit out some of the battles? Were you looking for redundancy in 2nd and 3rd rounds? I agree, i usually keep my surface TF's at 12 or less, as i seem to recall thats the max number of ships that can fire during combat. As you can see, my Fast Battleship TF had 12 ships in it, as that unit was to provide the surface defense for my CV's. My other two TF's, the CA TF and the Old BB TF were greater than 12 ships as those TF's were meant purely for Bombardment, not meant to engage surface vessels.

KDonovan -> RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) (1/18/2007 3:17:27 AM)
Breaking down the battle, here's the cruiser battle..... quote: Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese Ships BB Hiei, Shell hits 16, on fire CA Kako, Shell hits 3 CL Oyodo, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage CL Agano CL Noshiro, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CL Sendai CL Jintsu, Shell hits 2 CL Isuzu, Shell hits 3 CL Natori, Shell hits 19, on fire CL Yura, Shell hits 40, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CL Kinu, Shell hits 10 CL Kuma, Shell hits 8 CL Tama, Shell hits 3 CL Kiso, Shell hits 6 CL Kitakami, Shell hits 1, on fire CL Tatsuta CL Yubari, Shell hits 1 DD Onami, Shell hits 2 DD Hibiki DD Amagiri DD Mutsuki DD Tomozuru, Shell hits 2, on fire Allied Ships CA Portland, Shell hits 2 CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 1 CA San Francisco CA Vincennes, Shell hits 6 CA Devonshire, Torpedo hits 1 CA Cornwall, Shell hits 2 CL Perth, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire CL Mauritius, Shell hits 4 CL Mobile, Shell hits 19, Torpedo hits 3, on fire DD Cony DD Dashiell, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Eaton, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Halford, Shell hits 1 DD Harrison, Shell hits 1, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships BB Hiei, Shell hits 4, on fire CA Kako, Shell hits 5, on fire CL Oyodo, Shell hits 14, and is sunk CL Agano, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage CL Noshiro, Shell hits 7, and is sunk CL Sendai, Shell hits 1 CL Jintsu, Shell hits 2, on fire CL Isuzu, Shell hits 7, on fire CL Natori, Shell hits 17, on fire, heavy damage CL Yura, Shell hits 12, on fire, heavy damage CL Kinu, Shell hits 7 CL Kuma CL Tama, Shell hits 3 CL Kiso, Shell hits 5 CL Kitakami, Shell hits 2, on fire CL Tatsuta CL Yubari DD Onami, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Hibiki DD Amagiri DD Mutsuki DD Tomozuru, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships CA Portland, Shell hits 2 CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage CA San Francisco, Shell hits 1, on fire CA Vincennes CA Devonshire, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CA Cornwall, Shell hits 4 CL Perth, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk CL Mauritius, Shell hits 2 CL Mobile, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Cony DD Dashiell, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Eaton, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage DD Halford, Shell hits 1 DD Harrison, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage despite the presence of a BB, lots more torps and 2:3 superiority in ships, the Japanese didn't do as well as well as they should have.... Japan - 5 CL's, 1 DD's sunk/heavy damage Allies - 2 CA, 2 CL's, 2 DD's sunk/heavy damage ....i would still call it a minor japanese victory

RUPD3658 -> RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) (1/18/2007 3:18:30 AM)
I was going for 8 BB/CA TFs with 4 DDs as escorts. It is odd the the worst round of comabt for me was against the Nevada and Oklahoma, two of the old BBs vs the Musashi Japanese Ships BB Mutsu BB Musashi, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage BB Fuso, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage BB Ise, Shell hits 10, on fire BB Hyuga, Shell hits 6, on fire CA Haguro, Shell hits 5, on fire CA Nachi, Shell hits 6, on fire CA Mogami CA Mikuma, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage CA Kumano, Shell hits 8 CA Aoba, Shell hits 5 CA Furutaka, Shell hits 3 DD Niizuki, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Akigumo, Shell hits 3, and is sunk DD Makinami, Shell hits 4, on fire DD Tamanami, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Ikazuchi, Shell hits 3, on fire Allied Ships BB Nevada, Shell hits 1 BB Oklahoma CA Northampton CA Houston, Shell hits 1 CA Chester CA Louisville, Shell hits 1, on fire CA Pensacola CL De Ruyter CL Richmond, Shell hits 1 CL Raleigh, Shell hits 1 DD Philip, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Pringle, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Sigsbee, Shell hits 1 DD Gwin, Shell hits 1 DD Grayson DD Sampson, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Benham DD Ellet

Nemo121 -> RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) (1/18/2007 3:27:52 AM)
Any chance of someone sending the replay my way? I'd love to see how it actually went down? FWIW I have found that putting torpedo CLs with BBs is almost always a loser. I tend to go for TFs with 4 BB/CAs and 4 DD or 2 CLs and 6 DDs ( if I'm expecting to fight just enemy DDs or I've decided it is going to be a night surface action and thus getting in close with Long Lances ( helps if you have a VERY aggressive Admiral in charge) is going to be my tactic for the battle). As the Japanese though you really want BBs or CAs along no matter what you are fighting as your CLs are almost worthless ( until you get 3.9 inch-armed ones at least. Their volume of fire is terrifying.).

KDonovan -> RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) (1/18/2007 3:28:26 AM)
here's the my Fast BB's, versus Japanese best BB TF.... quote: Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese Ships BB Mutsu, Shell hits 2 BB Musashi, Shell hits 2, on fire BB Fuso, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage BB Ise, Shell hits 1, on fire BB Hyuga, Shell hits 10, on fire CA Haguro, Shell hits 20 CA Nachi, Shell hits 3 CA Mogami, Shell hits 13 CA Mikuma, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage CA Kumano, Shell hits 1 CA Aoba, Shell hits 4 CA Furutaka, Shell hits 1 DD Niizuki DD Akigumo DD Makinami DD Tamanami DD Ikazuchi Allied Ships BB North Carolina, Shell hits 4, on fire BB Washington, Shell hits 27, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk BB South Dakota, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage BB Massachusetts, Shell hits 1 BB Prince of Wales, Shell hits 21, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk CA Wichita, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage CA Baltimore, Torpedo hits 1 CL Detroit, Shell hits 3 DD Conway, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD John Rodgers DD Spence, Shell hits 13, on fire DD Taylor, Shell hits 1, on fire here my ships got spanked. This goes agaisnt the notion that "smaller the TF's do better than larger TF's" that Nemo mentioned. As you can see pretty much all my ships were engaged in the battle (12 of them), while the only 12 japaense ships engaging the allies were all CA's/BB's. Japanese - 1 BB, 1 CA sunk/heavy damage Allies - 3 BB, 1 DD sunk/heavy damage now here's a different allied task force with the same japanese battle line.... quote: Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese Ships BB Mutsu BB Musashi, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage BB Fuso, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage BB Ise, Shell hits 10, on fire BB Hyuga, Shell hits 6, on fire CA Haguro, Shell hits 5, on fire CA Nachi, Shell hits 6, on fire CA Mogami CA Mikuma, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage CA Kumano, Shell hits 8 CA Aoba, Shell hits 5 CA Furutaka, Shell hits 3 DD Niizuki, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Akigumo, Shell hits 3, and is sunk DD Makinami, Shell hits 4, on fire DD Tamanami, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Ikazuchi, Shell hits 3, on fire Allied Ships BB Nevada, Shell hits 1 BB Oklahoma CA Northampton CA Houston, Shell hits 1 CA Chester CA Louisville, Shell hits 1, on fire CA Pensacola CL De Ruyter CL Richmond, Shell hits 1 CL Raleigh, Shell hits 1 DD Philip, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Pringle, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Sigsbee, Shell hits 1 DD Gwin, Shell hits 1 DD Grayson DD Sampson, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Benham DD Ellet This TF did much better than my Fast BB TF, despite being much weaker force. The result was an additional japanese 1 BB, 2 DD sunk/damage for 2 allied DDs sunk/heavy damage. So my 2 TF's ended up with the following score against the Musashi Battleline... Japanese - 2 BB, 1 CA, 2 DD sunk/heavy damage Allied - 3 BB, 3 DD sunk/heavy damage would call it a draw, since the Musashi is such a massive ship. Now the question is, would my BB's, CA's have done better in one TF, or split up as they were?

KDonovan -> RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) (1/18/2007 3:34:57 AM)
Lastly here's the final japanese BB TF, taking on the already exhausted allied CA-TF... quote: Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese Ships BB Kongo, Shell hits 1 BB Haruna, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage BB Kirishima BB Nagato, Shell hits 1 BB Yamato, Shell hits 2 BB Yamashiro, Shell hits 1 CA Tone CA Chikuma, Shell hits 1 CA Atago CA Chokai DD Satsuki, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Oite DD Minekaze, on fire, heavy damage DD Hakaze DD Tsuga, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Hasu Allied Ships CA Portland, Shell hits 3, and is sunk CA Minneapolis, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CA San Francisco, Shell hits 1, on fire CA Vincennes, Shell hits 2 CA Devonshire, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage CA Cornwall, Shell hits 1, on fire CL Mauritius CL Mobile, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Cony DD Dashiell, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage DD Eaton, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Halford DD Harrison, on fire, heavy damage as you can see, it was no contest for the exhausted CA's against japanese BB's. The BB Haruna and japanese DD are only heavily damaged due to previous sub attacks. Not counted the damaged/sunk ships from the Allied CA's previous engagement here's what additional losses occured Japanese - none Allied - 1 CA, 1 DD sunk/heavy damage

Nemo121 -> RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) (1/18/2007 3:36:56 AM)
You know, it'd be a great opportunity to run some tests by varying TF composition. As the Japanese I would suggest the following composition 4 BB, 2 CA and 2 DDs x 3 TF, 5 CA + 1 gun CL (not kitakami or Oi) + 2 DD 4to CL CL + 4 to 6 DD in your other TFs. Make sure your BB TFs are the lowest-numbered as they fight first, your CA TF next-lowest and your CL-led DD TFs next. The concept behind this arrangement ( which I've tested and works quite well indeed) is that your BBs trade the bows as they are the most survivable vs enemy BBs. Your lowest-numbered TF should be of ALL your best BBs ( 2 Yamato class and 2 modern 16 inchers) and so on in decreasing quality. The first TF damages the enemy sufficiently that the enemy offensive capability is so compromised that they cannot take advantage of your lower capability 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th etc TFs and therefore these TFs add their gun damage. By the time the enemy TFs are being engaged by your Cl-led DD TF most of the very light ships should be stripped away and whatever remains should be badly damaged... perfect targets for Long Lances. I would be very surprised if you didn't find that the results from the setup I outline above are very different than what occurred in-game. For reasons of testing the Allied TF setup should not, of course, change. No pressure etc. I just think it would be interesting to run the above and see. I've had good results with it in testing and in-game after coming up with the underlying hypotheses while reading some of Hunters stuff.

KDonovan -> RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) (1/18/2007 3:38:24 AM)
Since this excercise was about Surface engagements and not about the CV fights here was the final outcome of those surface engagements..... Japanese - 11 ships sunk/heavy damage 2 BB 1 CA 5 CL 3 DD Allied - 13 ships sunk/heavy damage 3 BB 3 CA 2 CL 5 DD based on that i would call it a minor or moderate japanese victory

KDonovan -> RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) (1/18/2007 3:40:58 AM)
quote: Any chance of someone sending the replay my way? I'd love to see how it actually went down? don't think you would find out anymore information than what you see, as we play with combat animations turned off.

KDonovan -> RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) (1/18/2007 3:41:39 AM)
quote: You know, it'd be a great opportunity to run some tests by varying TF composition. As the Japanese I would suggest the following composition 4 BB, 2 CA and 2 DDs x 3 TF, 5 CA + 1 gun CL (not kitakami or Oi) + 2 DD 4to CL CL + 4 to 6 DD in your other TFs. Make sure your BB TFs are the lowest-numbered as they fight first, your CA TF next-lowest and your CL-led DD TFs next. The concept behind this arrangement ( which I've tested and works quite well indeed) is that your BBs trade the bows as they are the most survivable vs enemy BBs. Your lowest-numbered TF should be of ALL your best BBs ( 2 Yamato class and 2 modern 16 inchers) and so on in decreasing quality. The first TF damages the enemy sufficiently that the enemy offensive capability is so compromised that they cannot take advantage of your lower capability 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th etc TFs and therefore these TFs add their gun damage. By the time the enemy TFs are being engaged by your Cl-led DD TF most of the very light ships should be stripped away and whatever remains should be badly damaged... perfect targets for Long Lances. I would be very surprised if you didn't find that the results from the setup I outline above are very different than what occurred in-game. For reasons of testing the Allied TF setup should not, of course, change. No pressure etc. I just think it would be interesting to run the above and see. I've had good results with it in testing and in-game after coming up with the underlying hypotheses while reading some of Hunters stuff. what do you feel is the best combination for the allies?

KDonovan -> RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) (1/18/2007 3:52:23 AM)
Looked at the turn, so i can complete the scorecard for the "what if" turn.... quote: Ran the turn Kenny sent me and I am not sure if I made out any better. The points came out in favor of Kenny. The real turn saw him score 1028 to my 521 (+507 Allied) and this one saw him score 1958 to my 1218 (+740 Allied) I have sent the turn back without orders so he can inspect his ships. Maybe he will want to go with the bloodier turn. End result: Japan: Sunk: 3 CV 1 CVL 1 CVE 1 CA 4 CL 1 DD Will sink next turn: 1 CVL 1CVE 3 BB including Musashi 1 CS 2 DD Allied: Sunk: 1 CVL 2 CVE 2 BB including POW 4 CA 2 CL 2 DD Will sink: 2 CA 2 CL 6 DD That will leave the final score cards Japanese Sunk - 19 ships 3 CV 2 CVL 2 CVE 3 BB 1 CS 1 CA 4 CL 3 DD Allied Sunk - 21 ships sunk 1 CVL 2 CVE 2 BB including POW 6 CA 4 CL 8 DD

Nemo121 -> RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) (1/18/2007 5:30:03 AM)
KDonovan, Basically the same except that the Allies should mix CLs in in addition to the CAs since they rely much more on guns than torpedoes. E.g. If we were taking the same force except it being an Allied one I would go for: 4 x BB + 2 CL + 4 DD. ( The BBs for the big hits and the CLs to crucify the IJN CLs and DDs) 3 CA + 2 CL + 5 DD x 2 cruiser TFs. The main difference being that the Allies really don't gain by having dedicated torpedo TFs to finish the enemy off so, instead, they are better off going with a few heavy TFs up front to really do the main damage and then have their 30/30/40 CA/CL/DD ( or close to that ratio) come in to finish up the enemy units with a combination of gunfire and torpedoes. The CA-led TF above would actually be enough to finish anything short of a BB quite easily with just their guns. The DDs are just present to get torpedo hits on damaged BBs. But the real key is just to not mix unit types - have all your 14 inch BBs together, all your 16 and 18inchers together etc - and to ensure that you have multiple engagements of, ideally, a single enemy TF by multiple friendly TFs. Even when this fails just configuring the TF properly will do wonders. e.g. In the Chumming the Waters AAR a single IJN CA TF ( featuring 3 CA, 1 CL and about 6 DD) ended up sinking multiple enemy DDs, CLs, CAs and seriously damaging a couple of BBs. Its only downfall was that I had left it there by mistake so it had to face 4 enemy TFs on its own and the last two enemy TFs got their own licks in. But if you look at the serious of engagements over the course of that night the conclusions are obvious.

RUPD3658 -> RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) (1/18/2007 3:46:36 PM)
BB South Dakota is going to survive?

KDonovan -> RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) (1/18/2007 10:59:14 PM)
quote: BB South Dakota is going to survive? looks that way. I don't have the exact figures, but both System, Float were in the orange, and the fires were in the yellow. And we all know that allied DC is a godsend

KDonovan -> RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) (1/18/2007 11:47:11 PM)
ok, i just took a look at the SD, she has 65 system, 25 flt, 14 fires...and she's making 9 knots, and is 14 hexes away from Midway. Tough call whether she would make it or not. If the flt damage was 40..i would say she's a definete gonner, but with 25, i'm not so sure...50/50 she makes it IMO

ny59giants -> RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) (1/19/2007 12:58:09 AM)
Ken, Did you forward deploy some AR's to Midway?? About 3 would be nice with a few AD's thrown in. [:D]

KDonovan -> RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) (1/19/2007 1:10:18 AM)
quote: Ken, Did you forward deploy some AR's to Midway?? About 3 would be nice with a few AD's thrown in. yep...i have 4 AR's and 1 AD at Midway good to see you again Mike, you mysteriously disappeared as soon as the Giants loss [;)]

ny59giants -> RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) (1/19/2007 1:49:36 AM)
Which of the losses in the last 9 games are you referring to?? You have 7 to choose from. [:D][:D] I'll leave the off season coaching moves and non-moves (so far) for another day and time. [:@][:@] In stock, I usually start converting AK's to repair ships from day one. Can never have enough. Plus, I was on the USS Canopus AS -34 for 4 years while I was in the Navy and am biased towards them.

RUPD3658 -> Battle of Wake (The aftermath) (1/19/2007 2:59:08 AM)
Not to give aid and comfort to the enemy but I have found that Naval HQs work even better than ARs. I have saved several ships by fast transporting Naval HQs to the ports were these ships put in. NY59Giants: I would tease you about the Giants loss expect that my Eagles blew their game last week. [:(] Oh well, only 2 weeks until the start of Spring training. How will the Phillies disappoint me this year?

RUPD3658 -> RE: Battle of Wake (The aftermath) (1/19/2007 3:02:51 AM)
Just noticed that we have moved solidly into 10th place for total replies to an AAR. [sm=00000436.gif][sm=Cool-049.gif][sm=party-smiley-012.gif]

KDonovan -> RE: Battle of Wake (The aftermath) (1/19/2007 4:26:37 AM)
quote: Not to give aid and comfort to the enemy but I have found that Naval HQs work even better than ARs. I have saved several ships by fast transporting Naval HQs to the ports were these ships put in. Me too. I have a naval HQ at Pearl Harbor and Sydney and it really speeds up the repair process. Unfortunately i only have 2 Fleet HQ's, so my AR's are my work horse's

KDonovan -> RE: Battle of Wake (The aftermath) (1/19/2007 4:27:37 AM)
quote: Just noticed that we have moved solidly into 10th place for total replies to an AAR. sweet!!....now we just need the top ten in number of views....last time i check i think we were in the teens somewhere

ny59giants -> RE: Battle of Wake (The aftermath) (1/19/2007 6:47:44 AM)
quote: quote: Just noticed that we have moved solidly into 10th place for total replies to an AAR. sweet!!....now we just need the top ten in number of views....last time i check i think we were in the teens somewhere Nothing against your AAR, but join AAR's have a different flavor than one's that you can solicited advice. Good for those who are fanboys.[:D] The best AAR to follow was VSWG (Martin's) IMO since he had so much screen shots and maps to follow.[&o][&o] However, it was a lot of work to post the amount of info he provided. It is hard to read and go by mainly combat reports. Your's was easy for me as I was able to get inside information via PM.[;)][;)]

RUPD3658 -> RE: Battle of Wake (The aftermath) (1/21/2007 3:26:06 AM)
Kenny played it safe and did not send his carriers in pursuit of the damaged KB. Made for a pretty tame turn. I did manage to sink the SS Trout and damage a few other subs with AC from Marcus. Not to hard to do since there are so many subs between marcus and wake that my troops could just walk there. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/02/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 77,57 Japanese Ships DD Yamakaze Allied Ships SS Trout -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 78,60 Japanese Ships DD Nowaki, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Shiratsuyu DD Asagumo DD Maikaze Allied Ships SS Bonefish -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 74,55 Japanese Ships DD Yunagi DD Kamikaze DD Akebono DD Asagiri DD Tokitsukaze DD Shiranuhi Allied Ships SS Flying Fish, hits 1, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 78,60 Japanese Ships PG Toyotsu Maru PG Tatsumiya Maru PG Taiko Maru PG Sozan Maru PG Shotoku Maru PG Shoei Maru PG Shinko Maru #5 PG Shinko Maru #1 PG Shinko Maru #3 PG Seisho Maru PG Santos Maru MSW W.22 MSW W.21 PC Ishigaki PC Kunashiri PC Hachijo Allied Ships SS Bonefish, hits 2, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 78,60 Japanese Ships PG Toyotsu Maru PG Tatsumiya Maru PG Taiko Maru PG Sozan Maru PG Shotoku Maru PG Shoei Maru PG Shinko Maru #5 PG Shinko Maru #1 PG Shinko Maru #3 PG Seisho Maru PG Santos Maru MSW W.22 MSW W.21 PC Ishigaki PC Kunashiri PC Hachijo Allied Ships SS Bonefish, hits 4, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 83,63 Japanese Ships SS RO-33, hits 2, on fire Allied Ships DD Laffey DD Smith DD Chevalier DD Nicholson DD Duncan DD Russell CLAA San Juan DD Ralph Talbot DD Mugford DD Blue DD Schroeder DD Daly -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1004 encounters mine field at Eniwetok (76,74) Allied Ships DMS Boggs DMS Hamilton DMS Zane -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Samo , at 62,88 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 9 Liberator VI x 132 P-40B Tomahawk x 29 Allied aircraft losses Liberator VI: 5 damaged Japanese ground losses: 30 casualties reported Airbase hits 7 Airbase supply hits 5 Runway hits 113 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Samo , at 62,88 Allied aircraft CW-21B Demon x 7 Brewster 339D x 11 B-25J Mitchell x 152 Allied aircraft losses B-25J Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged Japanese ground losses: 27 casualties reported Airbase hits 7 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 131 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63 Allied aircraft F-5A Lightning x 2 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Wake Island Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 22879 troops, 108 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 834 Defending force 110584 troops, 677 guns, 260 vehicles, Assault Value = 2365 Allied ground losses: 56 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12419 troops, 403 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1935 Defending force 311973 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10583 Allied ground losses: 212 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Wake Island Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 4169 troops, 149 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2365 Defending force 36694 troops, 157 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 834 Japanese ground losses: 230 casualties reported Guns lost 7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/03/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1069 encounters mine field at Eniwetok (76,74) Allied Ships MSW Abraham Crijnssen MSW Igonish MSW Finch MSW Oracle MSW Ipswitch -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 76,58 Japanese Ships DD Shiratsuyu Allied Ships SS Barb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1069 encounters mine field at Eniwetok (76,74) Allied Ships MSW Abraham Crijnssen MSW Igonish MSW Finch MSW Oracle MSW Ipswitch -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32 Japanese aircraft Ki-21 Sally x 75 Ki-49 Helen x 57 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 160 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 6 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 101 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Samo , at 62,88 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 10 Liberator VI x 133 P-40B Tomahawk x 34 Allied aircraft losses Liberator VI: 5 damaged Japanese ground losses: 51 casualties reported Airbase hits 5 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 114 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Samo , at 62,88 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 4 CW-21B Demon x 8 Brewster 339D x 11 B-25J Mitchell x 145 Allied aircraft losses B-25J Mitchell: 9 damaged Japanese ground losses: 48 casualties reported Airbase hits 4 Airbase supply hits 8 Runway hits 172 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Wake Island Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 22830 troops, 109 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 830 Defending force 111356 troops, 684 guns, 264 vehicles, Assault Value = 2389 Allied ground losses: 41 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12395 troops, 401 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1930 Defending force 311020 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10598 Allied ground losses: 524 casualties reported Spotted troops at Chungking dropped to 114 units and went down by 1500 men but the AV went up by 22. Weird[&:] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Wake Island Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 4157 troops, 148 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2389 Defending force 36843 troops, 161 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 830 Japanese ground losses: 483 casualties reported Guns lost 11 Vehicles lost 1

RUPD3658 -> RE: Battle of Wake (The aftermath) (1/21/2007 3:28:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants Nothing against your AAR, but join AAR's have a different flavor than one's that you can solicited advice. Good for those who are fanboys.[:D] The best AAR to follow was VSWG (Martin's) IMO since he had so much screen shots and maps to follow.[&o][&o] However, it was a lot of work to post the amount of info he provided. It is hard to read and go by mainly combat reports. Your's was easy for me as I was able to get inside information via PM.[;)][;)] All Jap fanboys can feel free to PM me advice on how to hold off the Allied hordes. My plans really didn't go beyond 1/1/43 so I have been making it up as I went along.

RUPD3658 -> CAs vs BBs at Wake (1/22/2007 5:23:33 AM)
I figured that Kenny's Cvs were low on fuel and had to head back to Midway. With this in mind I reasoned that he would withdraw all his ships from the Wake area due to lack of aircover. I thought that I would be able to sneak bombardment and Fast Transport TFs in before he returned to Wake. Unfortuently he turned around and I lost several CAs as a result. [:(] In the massive air battle that ensued some Bettys actually got through the CAP and attacked the CVs but did not score any hits. I lost 570 AC to 107 Allied. VP ratio is now less than 3:1 so my strategy can now go from 1:3 losses being unacceptabe to 2:1 losses being acceptable. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/04/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 78,59 Japanese Ships DD Murakumo DD Samidare DD Onami DD Satsuki DD Mutsuki DD Oite CA Furutaka CA Mogami Allied Ships SS Puffer, hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 78,59 Japanese Ships DD Hakaze DD Minekaze DD Amagiri DD Hibiki DD Ariake DD Umikaze DD Fujinami Allied Ships SS Puffer, hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32 Japanese aircraft Ki-21 Sally x 145 Ki-49 Helen x 87 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 208 casualties reported Airbase hits 7 Airbase supply hits 7 Runway hits 153 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Samo , at 62,88 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 5 CW-21B Demon x 8 Brewster 339D x 8 B-25J Mitchell x 132 Allied aircraft losses B-25J Mitchell: 9 damaged Japanese ground losses: 62 casualties reported Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 131 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 83,63 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 11 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 72 F6F Hellcat x 201 Corsair IV x 25 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 10 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 83,63 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 72 F6F Hellcat x 200 Corsair IV x 25 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 78,58 Japanese Ships DD Amatsukaze DD Shiranuhi DD Maikaze DD Hayashio DD Oyashio DD Hayanami DD Tamanami DD Makinami DD Yayoi DD Kisaragi DD Ayanami DD Shirakumo DD Harusame DD Arashi DD Kiyonami Allied Ships SS Apogon, hits 3, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 78,58 Japanese Ships DD Amatsukaze DD Shiranuhi DD Maikaze DD Hayashio DD Oyashio DD Hayanami DD Tamanami DD Makinami DD Yayoi DD Kisaragi DD Ayanami DD Shirakumo DD Harusame Allied Ships SS Apogon, hits 7, heavy damage sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Wake Island Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 22545 troops, 112 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 812 Defending force 112158 troops, 690 guns, 266 vehicles, Assault Value = 2415 Allied ground losses: 10 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12439 troops, 401 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1929 Defending force 310972 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10607 Allied ground losses: 156 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Wake Island Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 4204 troops, 150 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2415 Defending force 36808 troops, 169 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 812 Japanese ground losses: 175 casualties reported Guns lost 7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/05/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 82,62 Japanese Ships DD Murakumo DD Samidare DD Onami DD Satsuki DD Mutsuki DD Oite CA Mogami Allied Ships SS Pogy -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 80,61 Japanese Ships DD Amatsukaze DD Shiranuhi DD Maikaze DD Hayashio DD Oyashio DD Hayanami DD Tamanami DD Makinami DD Yayoi DD Kisaragi DD Ayanami DD Shirakumo DD Harusame DD Arashi DD Kiyonami DD Niizuki Allied Ships SS Scamp, hits 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1024 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63) - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 27 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships MSW Bayfield, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage MSW Lithgow, Shell hits 1, on fire MSW Castlemaine, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage MSW Ballarat, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage DD Piet Hein -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1063 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63) Allied Ships DD Trathen DD Spence DD Taylor DD Terry DD Thatcher -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1073 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63) Allied Ships DD Boyd DD Mustin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1138 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63) Allied Ships DD Dale DD Hull -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 81,62 Japanese Ships DD Amatsukaze DD Shiranuhi DD Maikaze DD Hayashio DD Oyashio DD Hayanami DD Tamanami DD Makinami DD Yayoi DD Kisaragi Allied Ships SS Cod, hits 10 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships CA Haguro, Shell hits 9, on fire CA Nachi, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage CA Mogami, Shell hits 2 CA Mikuma, Shell hits 4 CA Kumano CA Aoba, Shell hits 3 CA Furutaka, Shell hits 82, and is sunk DD Onami, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Samidare DD Murakumo DD Mutsuki, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Satsuki, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Oite, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships BB West Virginia BB Arizona, Shell hits 1 BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, on fire BB California, Shell hits 3 BB Tennessee, Shell hits 4 BB Indiana, Shell hits 3 BB Warspite BB Valiant, Shell hits 1 CA Chicago CA Salt Lake City, Shell hits 2 CA Shropshire CL Java CL Sumatra, Shell hits 1 CL Tromp CL Adelaide, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CL Emerald CL Birmingham, Shell hits 3, on fire CL Phoenix CL Cleveland, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Bennett DD Claxton DD LaVallette DD McKee DD Phelps DD Balch -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese Ships CA Haguro, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage CA Nachi, Shell hits 18, on fire, heavy damage CA Mogami, Shell hits 15, on fire CA Mikuma, Shell hits 5 CA Kumano CA Aoba, Shell hits 5, on fire DD Samidare, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage DD Murakumo DD Mutsuki, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Satsuki, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage DD Oite, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk Allied Ships BB West Virginia BB Arizona, Shell hits 1 BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 1, on fire BB California, Shell hits 2 BB Tennessee, Shell hits 2 BB Indiana, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire BB Warspite, Shell hits 2 BB Valiant CA Chicago CA Salt Lake City, Shell hits 1 CA Shropshire CL Java CL Sumatra CL Tromp CL Adelaide, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage CL Emerald CL Birmingham, on fire CL Phoenix CL Cleveland, on fire DD Bennett DD Claxton DD LaVallette DD McKee DD Phelps DD Balch -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese Ships CA Haguro, on fire, heavy damage CA Nachi, on fire, heavy damage CA Mogami, Shell hits 38, on fire, heavy damage CA Mikuma CA Kumano, Shell hits 3, on fire CA Aoba, on fire DD Samidare, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage DD Murakumo DD Mutsuki, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Satsuki, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk Allied Ships BB West Virginia BB Arizona BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 1, on fire BB California, Shell hits 2 BB Tennessee, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1 BB Indiana, on fire BB Warspite BB Valiant CA Chicago CA Salt Lake City CA Shropshire CL Java CL Sumatra CL Tromp CL Adelaide, on fire, heavy damage CL Emerald CL Birmingham, on fire CL Phoenix CL Cleveland, on fire DD Bennett DD Claxton DD LaVallette DD McKee DD Phelps DD Balch -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships CA Haguro, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CA Nachi, Shell hits 5, and is sunk CA Mogami, Shell hits 12, on fire, heavy damage CA Mikuma CA Kumano, on fire CA Aoba, Shell hits 7, on fire, heavy damage DD Samidare, Shell hits 7, and is sunk DD Murakumo, Shell hits 1 DD Mutsuki, on fire Allied Ships BB West Virginia, Shell hits 1 BB Arizona BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 2, on fire BB California, Shell hits 1 BB Tennessee, Shell hits 2 BB Indiana, Shell hits 1, on fire BB Warspite BB Valiant CA Chicago CA Salt Lake City, Shell hits 1 CA Shropshire CL Java CL Sumatra CL Tromp CL Adelaide, on fire, heavy damage CL Emerald CL Birmingham, on fire CL Phoenix CL Cleveland, on fire DD Bennett DD Claxton DD LaVallette DD McKee DD Phelps DD Balch -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese Ships CA Haguro, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CA Mogami, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage CA Mikuma, Shell hits 2 CA Kumano, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage CA Aoba, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage DD Murakumo, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Mutsuki, Shell hits 12, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships DD Abbot DD Ammen DD Anthony, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Aulick, Shell hits 1 DD Bache DD Beale DD Saufley DD Dunlap DD Fanning -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships CA Haguro, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk CA Mogami, Shell hits 15, on fire, heavy damage CA Mikuma, Shell hits 6 CA Kumano, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk CA Aoba, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage DD Murakumo, Shell hits 6, on fire DD Mutsuki, Shell hits 7, and is sunk Allied Ships DD Abbot DD Ammen DD Anthony, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage DD Aulick DD Bache DD Beale DD Saufley DD Dunlap DD Fanning -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese Ships CA Mogami, and is sunk CA Mikuma, Shell hits 6 CA Aoba, Shell hits 8, on fire, heavy damage DD Murakumo, Shell hits 27, and is sunk Allied Ships DD Abbot, Shell hits 1, on fire DD Ammen, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage DD Anthony, on fire, heavy damage DD Aulick DD Bache DD Beale DD Saufley, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Dunlap, Shell hits 3, on fire DD Fanning -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Wake Island, at 82,63 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed 36 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships CL Cleveland, Shell hits 5, on fire CL Phoenix, Shell hits 1 CL Birmingham, Shell hits 3, on fire CL Emerald CL Tromp, Shell hits 1 CL Sumatra CL Java CA Shropshire, Shell hits 3 CA Salt Lake City CA Chicago BB Valiant BB Warspite BB Indiana, on fire BB Tennessee, on fire BB California BB Pennsylvania, on fire BB Arizona BB West Virginia Japanese ground losses: 1280 casualties reported Guns lost 33 Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 21 Port hits 8 Port supply hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese Ships DD Hatsuzuki, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage DD Tsuga DD Hakaze Allied Ships SS Sunfish, hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 81,62 Japanese Ships DD Amatsukaze DD Shiranuhi DD Maikaze DD Hayashio DD Oyashio DD Hayanami DD Tamanami DD Makinami DD Yayoi DD Kisaragi DD Ayanami Allied Ships SS Cod, hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1024 encounters mine field at Wake Island (82,63) TF 1024 troops unloading over beach at Wake Island, 82,63 Allied Ships MSW Bayfield, on fire, heavy damage MSW Lithgow MSW Castlemaine, on fire, heavy damage MSW Ballarat, on fire, heavy damage DD Voyager AK Halldor, Mine hits 5, on fire, heavy damage DD Van Ghent DD Piet Hein DD Vendetta DD Kortenaer Coastal Guns at Wake Island, 82,63, firing at TF 1024 33 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships DD Voyager Allied ground losses: 118 casualties reported Vehicles lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 82,62 Allied Ships SS Pogy -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 81,63 Japanese Ships PG Toyotsu Maru PG Tatsumiya Maru PG Taiko Maru PG Sozan Maru PG Shotoku Maru PG Shoei Maru PG Shinko Maru #5 PG Shinko Maru #1 PG Shinko Maru #3 PG Seisho Maru PG Santos Maru MSW W.22 MSW W.21 PC Ishigaki PC Kunashiri PC Hachijo Allied Ships SS Dace, hits 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32 Japanese aircraft Ki-21 Sally x 158 Ki-49 Helen x 111 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 200 casualties reported Airbase hits 9 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 178 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Samo , at 62,88 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 6 Liberator VI x 134 P-40B Tomahawk x 21 Allied aircraft losses Liberator VI: 5 damaged Japanese ground losses: 5 casualties reported Port hits 3 Port supply hits 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Samo , at 62,88 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 11 CW-21B Demon x 6 Brewster 339D x 8 B-25J Mitchell x 128 Allied aircraft losses B-25J Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged Japanese ground losses: 7 casualties reported Airbase hits 6 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 109 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Wake Island , at 82,63 Allied aircraft F-5A Lightning x 2 No Allied losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 81,63 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 25 F6F Hellcat x 95 Corsair IV x 15 SBD Dauntless x 42 Barracuda x 7 TBF Avenger x 18 TBM Avenger x 20 Allied aircraft losses TBF Avenger: 2 damaged TBM Avenger: 1 damaged Japanese Ships PG Shinko Maru #3, Bomb hits 1, on fire PC Hachijo, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage PG Shotoku Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage PG Taiko Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage MSW W.21, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage PG Shoei Maru PG Sozan Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire PG Shinko Maru #5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire PG Seisho Maru, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage PG Tatsumiya Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage MSW W.22 PC Ishigaki PC Kunashiri This poor ASW TF was sent to Wake figuring the Allied CVs had left. All got sunk. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 81,63 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 9 F6F Hellcat x 12 SBD Dauntless x 5 TBM Avenger x 4 Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 1 damaged Japanese Ships PG Tatsumiya Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage PG Shoei Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire PG Shinko Maru #1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire PG Seisho Maru, on fire, heavy damage ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 81,63 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 10 F6F Hellcat x 10 SBD Dauntless x 7 TBF Avenger x 6 TBM Avenger x 2 Allied aircraft losses SBD Dauntless: 1 damaged TBF Avenger: 1 damaged TBM Avenger: 1 damaged Japanese Ships PG Shinko Maru #5, on fire PG Santos Maru PG Toyotsu Maru PC Ishigaki, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 81,63 Allied aircraft F6F Hellcat x 7 TBF Avenger x 4 TBM Avenger x 1 Allied aircraft losses TBF Avenger: 1 damaged Japanese Ships PC Ishigaki, on fire, heavy damage PG Shinko Maru #3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 24 A6M3a Zero x 22 G4M1 Betty x 9 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 43 F6F Hellcat x 109 Corsair IV x 14 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 23 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 21 destroyed G4M1 Betty: 9 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 10 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 40 F6F Hellcat x 108 Corsair IV x 14 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 85,61 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 3 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied Ships BB West Virginia Aircraft Attacking: 2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet Now why can't the Bettys gang up on the TF that is not covered by hundreds of Hellcats? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 24 A6M3a Zero x 31 G4M2 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 40 F6F Hellcat x 108 Corsair IV x 14 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 23 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 30 destroyed G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed F6F Hellcat: 10 destroyed, 6 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 48 A6M3a Zero x 57 G4M1 Betty x 3 G4M2 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 38 F6F Hellcat x 98 Corsair IV x 14 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 42 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 55 destroyed G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged F6F Hellcat: 22 destroyed, 9 damaged Allied Ships DD Mahan Aircraft Attacking: 1 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese aircraft A6M3a Zero x 2 G4M1 Betty x 4 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 35 F6F Hellcat x 76 Corsair IV x 14 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed G4M1 Betty: 4 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 89 A6M3a Zero x 122 G4M1 Betty x 59 G4M2 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 35 F6F Hellcat x 76 Corsair IV x 14 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 68 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 98 destroyed G4M1 Betty: 24 destroyed, 11 damaged G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 12 destroyed, 8 damaged F6F Hellcat: 34 destroyed, 8 damaged Corsair IV: 4 damaged Allied Ships CV Hornet CVL Independence CVL Cabot CV Intrepid CVL Belleau Wood CV Yorktown CVL Cowpens They broke through but scored no hits. Aircraft Attacking: 2 x G4M2 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 1 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet 2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 23 F6F Hellcat x 42 Corsair IV x 14 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 82,62 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 8 F6F Hellcat x 21 Corsair IV x 3 TBM Avenger x 8 Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 2 damaged Japanese Ships DD Hatsuzuki, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 81,63 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 17 F6F Hellcat x 54 Corsair IV x 10 SBD Dauntless x 40 Barracuda x 4 TBF Avenger x 15 TBM Avenger x 8 Allied aircraft losses TBM Avenger: 1 damaged Japanese Ships PG Seisho Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage PC Ishigaki, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage PG Shinko Maru #3, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage PG Sozan Maru, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage PG Shotoku Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage PG Taiko Maru, on fire, heavy damage PG Tatsumiya Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 27 F6F Hellcat x 69 Corsair IV x 12 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 27 F6F Hellcat x 69 Corsair IV x 12 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 27 F6F Hellcat x 69 Corsair IV x 12 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 damaged F6F Hellcat: 2 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 9 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 27 F6F Hellcat x 69 Corsair IV x 12 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 2 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 27 A6M3a Zero x 38 G4M2 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 27 F6F Hellcat x 69 Corsair IV x 12 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 20 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 37 destroyed G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 4 destroyed F6F Hellcat: 6 destroyed, 2 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 14 A6M3a Zero x 33 G4M1 Betty x 5 G4M2 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 23 F6F Hellcat x 63 Corsair IV x 12 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 8 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 32 destroyed G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed F6F Hellcat: 6 destroyed, 4 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Wake Island at 82,63 Japanese aircraft A6M3a Zero x 1 G4M1 Betty x 13 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 22 F6F Hellcat x 57 Corsair IV x 12 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed G4M1 Betty: 8 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 damaged F6F Hellcat: 5 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 81,63 Japanese Ships PG Toyotsu Maru PG Santos Maru MSW W.22 PC Kunashiri Allied Ships SS Dace -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Wake Island Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 28088 troops, 103 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 788 Defending force 113528 troops, 707 guns, 267 vehicles, Assault Value = 2441 Allied ground losses: 17 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 12406 troops, 401 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1931 Defending force 310436 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10602 Allied ground losses: 164 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Wake Island Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 4280 troops, 153 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2441 Defending force 34405 troops, 116 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 788 Japanese ground losses: 63 casualties reported Guns lost 3

RUPD3658 -> RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) (1/22/2007 5:28:17 AM)
For those of you that think Kenny should have pursued the KB Halsey-like back to Marcus, here are the key points from that combat report. The KB made it back to port and all that resulted was an air battle. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/02/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 80,60 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 10 A6M3a Zero x 65 G4M1 Betty x 9 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 72 F6F Hellcat x 211 Corsair IV x 25 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 9 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 65 destroyed G4M1 Betty: 8 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 9 destroyed, 8 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 80,60 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 98 A6M3a Zero x 72 G4M1 Betty x 67 G4M2 Betty x 16 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 72 F6F Hellcat x 202 Corsair IV x 25 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 96 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 66 destroyed G4M1 Betty: 35 destroyed G4M2 Betty: 13 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 7 damaged F6F Hellcat: 13 destroyed, 35 damaged Corsair IV: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied Ships CV Hornet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 80,60 Japanese aircraft A6M3a Zero x 17 G4M2 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 42 F6F Hellcat x 111 Corsair IV x 14 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3a Zero: 17 destroyed G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/03/43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 80,60 Japanese aircraft A6M3a Zero x 36 G4M1 Betty x 35 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 73 F6F Hellcat x 180 Corsair IV x 26 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3a Zero: 32 destroyed G4M1 Betty: 14 destroyed, 4 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed F6F Hellcat: 3 destroyed, 13 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 80,60 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 42 A6M3a Zero x 22 G4M1 Betty x 29 G4M2 Betty x 16 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 72 F6F Hellcat x 177 Corsair IV x 26 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 41 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 22 destroyed G4M1 Betty: 18 destroyed G4M2 Betty: 2 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 9 destroyed, 14 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 80,60 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 3 A6M3a Zero x 29 G4M1 Betty x 4 G4M2 Betty x 3 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 55 F6F Hellcat x 97 Corsair IV x 17 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed A6M3a Zero: 25 destroyed G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F Hellcat: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged

ny59giants -> RE: Battle of Wake (Alternate Universe) (1/22/2007 4:35:03 PM)
Rumor has it that the Giants will sign the Eagles LB coach, Spag's, as their Defense Coordinator in the next few days. Any comments about him??

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