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ADavidB -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (6/20/2006 1:12:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Redd So whadda ya think Dave, should he turtle up in southern Oz or defend forward ? The recent change that made all of the northern Australia bases malaria-free makes it much harder to defend up there, because now the Japanese player can grab any base and build it up without fighting malaria. Previously, only Darwin was malaria-free so an Allied player could afford to make a stand at Darwin and let a Japanese player try his luck in the other bases. It was still risky, but malarial bases are tough to expand. Now, the Allied player has to face the possibility of multi-divisional invasions at any of four bases that aren't quite close enough together to be mutually supporting. And these four bases are very close to a half dozen DEI bases that the Japanese player can build up. As well, there are no inland bases that are safe from naval bombardment in northern Oz. Therefore, in a game like this where things are going badly for the Allies, it is a lot better to be building up southeastern Oz and defending the Aussie reinforcement locations. That doesn't mean to leave the four northern bases empty, but it does mean to be prepared to withdraw quickly in the face of superior force. Dave Baranyi

ADavidB -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (6/20/2006 1:17:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nomad I really don't understand why the developers didn't consider this. They considered that the Japanese player might try invading the USA and made a rule for it. Why not a rule that if any base in India is taken by the Japanese then some reinforcements are moved up some. There were forces avaliable to the British, but they did not need to move them to India since it was not under attack. And while we are at it, why didn't they have the reinforcements scheduled for Karachi arrive in Australia after a 30 or 60 day delay? That's a very legitimate question to ask Don and Gang. Hopefully they are looking at this AAR. Dave Baranyi

Andy Mac -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (6/20/2006 2:04:37 PM)
Start shipping in Seabees from the West Coast and CD units also the Canadian AA unit and base forces. Trust me karachi is as safe as houses I assume you have a big chunk of your lande forces in the hex prepping for Karachi with massive supply stockpiles. He can hurt you with bombardments he may even reduce the forts but the Urban bonus is impregnable. Pull out the AF its just free points at this stage wait until you have a massive stockpile of Hurris and Spits before trying to rebuild your AF 5th Indian Div is not far away as is 25th Indian Div. Every reinforcement you recieve he needs to match 8 X to take the hex as you will always be in supply. I think he has missed any chance of taking karachi

Andy Mac -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (6/20/2006 2:06:46 PM)
p.s. transfer in at least 1 USMC Para Bn make him garrison his captured cities and dont be afraid later on to use sub borne raiders keep him watching his LOC. Andy

ny59giants -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (6/20/2006 9:27:20 PM)
How many engineers, engineer vehicles, and motorized support do you have in Karachi?? These effect how fast you repair damages and re-build forts. I am starting to feel that taking Karachi may not be possible or take so long that it upsets his other timetables. Nemo will propably gain air superiority, but he still has to knock down all those forts and then over come all those bonuses and get 2:1 odds for him to capture it. Right??

veji1 -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (6/20/2006 9:33:55 PM)
well he gets to use the battleline so that can help, I mean creating Two Bombard Tfs with roughly 3 BBs and 3 CAs each... Rotating them to blast the hell out of the place... then bombarding with planes as well.. I guess he'll need all the troops he can muster... I actually have no Idea... But taking India leaving Karachi brings nothing to Japan, so i guess he'll do all he can to take, even if it means no going for the subsequent targets... How long does it take for the CEA to get to Karachi once China is cleared ? Would it be possible that he just leaves a blocking force and keeps the AF closed waiting for the whole CEA to come by while he does something else with the SEA ?

ADavidB -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (6/21/2006 12:48:41 AM)
quote: well he gets to use the battleline so that can help, I mean creating Two Bombard Tfs with roughly 3 BBs and 3 CAs each... Rotating them to blast the hell out of the place... then bombarding with planes as well.. I guess he'll need all the troops he can muster... I actually have no Idea... There is a way to defuse the effect of the Japanese battleline, if you still have transports in Karachi. When he comes to attack, whether with the battleline, the KB or both, form your transports into single ship "Transport" TFs and set them to stay in the hex (Destination and Home Base both Karachi, as well as "patrol" setting.) The planes and surface ships will waste their ammunition on each individual single ship TF. Then "pop up" your own surface combat ships to fight the next turn against ammo depleted opponents. It's a desperate move, but think of it as being equivalent to the use of "fire ships" to try to break up a superior force. Good luck - Dave Baranyi

Capt. Harlock -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (6/21/2006 5:55:59 AM)
quote: There is a way to defuse the effect of the Japanese battleline, if you still have transports in Karachi. When he comes to attack, whether with the battleline, the KB or both, form your transports into single ship "Transport" TFs and set them to stay in the hex (Destination and Home Base both Karachi, as well as "patrol" setting.) The planes and surface ships will waste their ammunition on each individual single ship TF. Then "pop up" your own surface combat ships to fight the next turn against ammo depleted opponents. It's a desperate move, but think of it as being equivalent to the use of "fire ships" to try to break up a superior force. Clever thinking -- and this is an "Anarchy Rules" game! Incidentally, I would agree with the posters about the developers not forseeing a Japanese charge into India -- except that they MUST have known. This problem popped up many times and was discussed at length in the Pacific War forum. Perhaps they thought that the monsoon rules would take care of the problem?

ADavidB -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (6/21/2006 6:38:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock quote: There is a way to defuse the effect of the Japanese battleline, if you still have transports in Karachi. When he comes to attack, whether with the battleline, the KB or both, form your transports into single ship "Transport" TFs and set them to stay in the hex (Destination and Home Base both Karachi, as well as "patrol" setting.) The planes and surface ships will waste their ammunition on each individual single ship TF. Then "pop up" your own surface combat ships to fight the next turn against ammo depleted opponents. It's a desperate move, but think of it as being equivalent to the use of "fire ships" to try to break up a superior force. Clever thinking -- and this is an "Anarchy Rules" game! Incidentally, I would agree with the posters about the developers not forseeing a Japanese charge into India -- except that they MUST have known. This problem popped up many times and was discussed at length in the Pacific War forum. Perhaps they thought that the monsoon rules would take care of the problem? Hah! The "monsoon rules" just improve the situation for the Japanese player because the continuous bad weather in all Indian bases under "advanced weather" negates the ability of the Allied bombers to attack advancing Japanese forces. BTW - I realized the advantage of the "fire ship" approach in my game against Yank. When I was trying to escape from the Philippines against Treespider I kept my ships together in normal TFs and had them all sunk. When I sent them out individually against Yank his forces ran out of ammo after the first half dozen or so attacks and he had to send them back to port for supplies, which allowed the rest of my ships to escape. Anyway, when you think of it, it was much more usual for ships to sail in single-ship TFs at the beginning of the war than in big multi-ship TFs. We've just gotten used to using big TFs because of the convenience in the Game. Dave Baranyi

ADavidB -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (6/21/2006 6:50:14 AM)
quote: I am afraid that Karachi is doomed. The RAF has been shattered, the airbase is closed and I have begun pulling the 4Es with the range out of Karachi into the Soviet Union BTW - have you been "withdrawing" your short-range planes? You want to disband as many air units as possible because they come back in 90 days, as compared to 6 months if they are destroyed on the ground in the final assault. But be certain to re-assign them to some other HQ than SEAC first - SWPAC for example - so they don't get stuck in "limbo" instead of coming back somewhere like Oz. Good luck - Dave Baranyi (Been there, done that...[:(] [;)])

Sneer -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (6/21/2006 11:02:20 AM)
Karachi is doomed only if forts are going down fast there will be enough time for this I think even best fortress busters will need few weaks to finish such place attack - 3-4 days reast and attack again and after 2-3 attacks full week is always needed - it is optimistic for attacker - there always may go bad dices and troops will need i.e. 2 weeks rest the only problem i see is that eng units need to repair facilities before thay raise forts - it is place i would like to decide myself in game advice - for all bases under heavy bomber attacks put all units on no replacement - never and never have more than 4-5 planes repaired in sqn so if you have more you do not reinforce if all are in good shape draw next 4-5 - it helps avoiding unnecessary losses on the ground never enter loop with sqns loosing many planes on the ground i assume you will be closed for a while wait till your runway <50% dmg than you can start reinforcing till that moment - forget about air units

itsjustme -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (6/24/2006 3:38:18 AM)
Here's an update. Not much happening. Although I am surprised at the lack of hammering Nemo is doing to Karachi. AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/25/42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1035 encounters mine field at Dutch Harbor (103,36) Allied Ships MSW Courtenay -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1064 encounters mine field at Dutch Harbor (103,36) Allied Ships MSW Quatsino -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1035 encounters mine field at Dutch Harbor (103,36) Allied Ships AK Empire Summer, and is sunk MSW Courtenay -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1064 encounters mine field at Dutch Harbor (103,36) Allied Ships MSW Quatsino -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 10th Group Army, at 39,34 Japanese aircraft Ki-27 Nate x 34 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 14 casualties reported Aircraft Attacking: 31 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Colombo , at 14,24 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 18 G3M Nell x 54 Ki-21 Sally x 35 Ki-49 Helen x 26 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses G3M Nell: 3 damaged Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Wirraway: 2 destroyed Airbase hits 14 Airbase supply hits 13 Runway hits 72 Aircraft Attacking: 26 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 6 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 15 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet 20 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet 6 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 6 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet 5 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet 2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 3 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet 2 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet 3 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77 Allied aircraft Brewster 339D x 18 Hudson I x 45 Allied aircraft losses Hudson I: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 77 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Port hits 1 Port supply hits 3 Aircraft Attacking: 4 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet 3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet 3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet 3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet 3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet 3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet 3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet 3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet 3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet 3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet 3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet 3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet 3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet 3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet 2 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77 Allied aircraft Catalina I x 4 Hudson I x 16 Allied aircraft losses Catalina I: 1 damaged Hudson I: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 36 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Port hits 1 Port supply hits 2 Aircraft Attacking: 4 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet 3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet 3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet 3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet 3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on French Frigate Shoal , at 104,68 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 12 No Allied losses Runway hits 1 Aircraft Attacking: 9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 17000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 17000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32 Japanese aircraft Ki-27 Nate x 22 Ki-46-II Dinah x 1 Ki-15 Babs x 2 Allied aircraft I-16c x 3 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-15 Babs: 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses I-16c: 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Karachi , at 21,3 Japanese aircraft A6M3 Zero x 15 Allied aircraft Lysander I x 1 Mohawk IV x 3 Buffalo I x 5 Hurricane II x 3 Kittyhawk I x 9 P-40E Warhawk x 1 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3 Zero: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses Mohawk IV: 1 destroyed Buffalo I: 3 destroyed Hurricane II: 1 destroyed Kittyhawk I: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged P-40E Warhawk: 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 21,4 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 18 Allied aircraft Mohawk IV x 2 Vildebeest IV x 2 Blenheim I x 9 Blenheim IV x 17 Wellington III x 10 Martin 139 x 2 Beaufort V-IX x 14 B-26B Marauder x 6 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses Vildebeest IV: 2 destroyed Blenheim I: 4 damaged Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Wellington III: 2 damaged Martin 139: 1 destroyed Beaufort V-IX: 3 destroyed, 8 damaged B-26B Marauder: 3 damaged Japanese Ships BB Yamashiro, Bomb hits 1 BB Nagato BB Hyuga, Bomb hits 2 Aircraft Attacking: 1 x Martin 139 bombing at 7000 feet 3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 7000 feet 3 x Blenheim I bombing at 7000 feet 1 x Beaufort V-IX launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x Blenheim I bombing at 7000 feet 2 x Wellington III bombing at 7000 feet 2 x Wellington III bombing at 7000 feet 2 x Blenheim IV bombing at 7000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 7000 feet 3 x Wellington III bombing at 7000 feet 2 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 7000 feet 3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 7000 feet 3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 7000 feet 3 x Blenheim I bombing at 7000 feet 2 x Beaufort V-IX launching torpedoes at 200 feet 4 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 7000 feet 4 x Beaufort V-IX launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x Beaufort V-IX launching torpedoes at 200 feet This is frustrating. If I could just get one or two torpedo hits, I'd put a real dent in his ability to shell karachi into oblivion. As it is, the bomb its are generally useless. A bit surprised that he would let the battleline take the risk though. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 3150 troops, 106 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 6633 Defending force 172228 troops, 1192 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3811 Allied ground losses: 29 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 42,30 Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 17321 troops, 180 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 246 Defending force 8749 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 54 Japanese max assault: 241 - adjusted assault: 234 Allied max defense: 53 - adjusted defense: 47 Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 33 casualties reported Vehicles lost 1 Allied ground losses: 6 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 40,36 Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 10284 troops, 161 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 200 Defending force 3156 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 77 Japanese max assault: 197 - adjusted assault: 192 Allied max defense: 73 - adjusted defense: 7 Japanese assault odds: 27 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 26 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 92 casualties reported

itsjustme -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (6/24/2006 4:49:48 AM)
I have a question about DMSs accompanying a bombardment task force. Will they work to clear the mines while the bombardment task force bombards or do they need to be in separate task forces?

Redd -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (6/24/2006 5:52:59 AM)
I'm not sure from personnal experience, but in most AARs that I've read they have been embedded in the TFs themselves. Seemed to work well.

Sneer -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (6/24/2006 10:04:30 AM)
it works too good IMO

ny59giants -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (6/24/2006 4:59:36 PM)
I'm not sure if the DMS sweep the mines, but they do prevent your CA/BB from using their hulls as minesweepers. [:D]

itsjustme -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (6/25/2006 5:02:37 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/29/42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1049 encounters mine field at Adak Island (98,36) TF 1049 troops unloading over beach at Adak Island, 98,36 Allied ground losses: 158 casualties reported Just trying to keep him honest and give him something to think about. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1064 encounters mine field at Dutch Harbor (103,36) Allied Ships MSW Quatsino -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 21,3 Japanese Ships BB Yamashiro BB Hyuga CA Nachi CA Mogami CA Mikuma CA Kumano CA Aoba CA Kinugasa CA Furutaka DD Hatsukaze DD Natsushio Allied Ships AK Empire Pennant, Shell hits 14, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 21,3 Japanese Ships BB Yamashiro, Shell hits 2 BB Hyuga, Shell hits 1 CA Nachi CA Mogami CA Mikuma CA Kumano CA Aoba, Shell hits 1 CA Kinugasa CA Furutaka DD Hatsukaze DD Natsushio Allied Ships DD Tjerk Hiddes, Shell hits 43, and is sunk DD Tenedos, Shell hits 51, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 21,3 Japanese Ships BB Yamashiro BB Hyuga CA Nachi CA Mogami CA Mikuma CA Kumano CA Aoba CA Kinugasa CA Furutaka DD Hatsukaze DD Natsushio Allied Ships PT PT-36 PT PT-37 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 21,3 Japanese Ships BB Yamashiro BB Hyuga, Shell hits 4 CA Nachi CA Mogami, Shell hits 2 CA Mikuma CA Kumano CA Aoba CA Kinugasa CA Furutaka DD Hatsukaze DD Natsushio Allied Ships DD Arrow, Shell hits 59, and is sunk DD Norman, Shell hits 33, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Colombo, at 14,24 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses SB-2c: 1 destroyed Wirraway: 1 destroyed 80 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships DD Hamakaze DD Isokaze, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage DD Kagero, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage DD Akigumo CL Abukuma, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage CA Ashigara, Shell hits 4 CA Myoko, Shell hits 3 CA Chokai, Shell hits 8 CA Takao, Shell hits 4, on fire CA Chikuma CA Tone, Shell hits 1 BB Fuso BB Kirishima BB Hiei BB Haruna BB Kongo Allied ground losses: 2344 casualties reported Guns lost 54 Vehicles lost 1 Airbase hits 6 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 24 Port hits 15 Port fuel hits 5 Port supply hits 2 This was a nice surprise. I don't think I did any real damages to his heavies, but I do think I dinged up some escorts pretty well.[:-] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Karachi, at 21,3 Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses Swordfish: 1 destroyed PBY Catalina: 3 destroyed Wellington III: 1 destroyed Dakota I: 3 destroyed Beaufort V-IX: 1 destroyed Catalina I: 1 destroyed Mohawk IV: 1 destroyed Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships CA Furutaka CA Kinugasa CA Aoba CA Kumano CA Mikuma CA Mogami CA Nachi BB Hyuga BB Yamashiro Allied Ships BB Warspite, Shell hits 18, on fire, heavy damage Allied ground losses: 3788 casualties reported Guns lost 36 Vehicles lost 1 Airbase hits 7 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 28 Port hits 11 Port fuel hits 1 And here my support guys get nuked again.[:@] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Colombo, at 14,24 Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses SB-2c: 2 destroyed Japanese Ships DD Makigumo BB Yamato Allied ground losses: 558 casualties reported Guns lost 16 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 16 Port hits 2 Port fuel hits 1 Port supply hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Amchitka Island, at 96,36 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 112 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships CA Chicago CA Louisville CA Northampton, Shell hits 21 CA Indianapolis, Shell hits 30 CA Portland BB Mississippi BB New Mexico BB Idaho BB Colorado Japanese ground losses: 376 casualties reported Guns lost 13 While this looks really bad for the Northampton and Indianapolis, there was really no damage to them at all. I'll send this force back to Amchitka for a curtain call. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1049 encounters mine field at Adak Island (98,36) TF 1049 troops unloading over beach at Adak Island, 98,36 Allied ground losses: 198 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 21,4 Japanese Ships BB Yamashiro, Torpedo hits 1, on fire DD Natsushio DD Hatsukaze CA Mikuma Allied Ships SS O19 Finally! This makes two BBs that will be in drydock for a while. I am hopeful that I can continue to nibble away at the battleline. If I could disable another 3 or 4, his chances of taking Karachi are much reduced. Wishful thinking perhaps, but there are more subs on their way to Karachi and he's going to have to run the risk if he wants to bombard.[:D] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 10th Group Army, at 39,34 Japanese aircraft Ki-27 Nate x 38 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 26 casualties reported Aircraft Attacking: 35 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on French Frigate Shoal , at 104,68 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 12 No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 17000 feet 3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 17000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 1st Tank Regiment, at 36,25 Allied aircraft SB-2c x 13 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 7 casualties reported Vehicles lost 1 Aircraft Attacking: 4 x SB-2c bombing at 5000 feet 3 x SB-2c bombing at 5000 feet 3 x SB-2c bombing at 5000 feet 3 x SB-2c bombing at 5000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 120th USN Base Force, at 42,58 Japanese aircraft A5M4 Claude x 67 D3A Val x 92 B5N Kate x 161 Ki-27 Nate x 100 Ki-51 Sonia x 16 Ki-15 Babs x 2 No Japanese losses Aircraft Attacking: 5 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 18 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 9 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 6 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 18 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 6 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 6 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet 6 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet 4 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet 20 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 18 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 4 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 15 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 15 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 4 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 15 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 15 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 15 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 14 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 15 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 11 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 11 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 11 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 12 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 11 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 11 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 11 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 11 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 8 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 12 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 11 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 71st Chinese Division, at 39,35 Japanese aircraft Ki-27 Nate x 25 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 13 casualties reported Aircraft Attacking: 25 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 21st Chinese Corps, at 43,32 Japanese aircraft Ki-48 Lily x 62 Ki-46-II Dinah x 1 Ki-15 Babs x 2 Allied aircraft I-16c x 3 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-48 Lily: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged Allied aircraft losses I-16c: 1 damaged Aircraft Attacking: 9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 10 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 7 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 15 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 10 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 81st PA Division, at 42,58 Japanese aircraft A5M4 Claude x 26 D3A Val x 47 B5N Kate x 71 Ki-27 Nate x 43 Ki-51 Sonia x 9 Ki-15 Babs x 2 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 71 casualties reported Aircraft Attacking: 9 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 9 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet 7 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 6 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 3 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 5 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 5 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 3 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 5 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 6 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 5 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 5 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 6 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 5 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 5 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 6 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 2 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 19,9 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 7 Allied aircraft Blenheim I x 5 Blenheim IV x 3 Wellington III x 2 B-26B Marauder x 5 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses Blenheim I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed B-26B Marauder: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Japanese Ships APD APD-38 APD APD-35, Bomb hits 1, on fire APD APD-36 APD APD-2 APD APD-46 Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Blenheim I bombing at 7000 feet 2 x Wellington III bombing at 7000 feet 1 x Blenheim IV bombing at 7000 feet 1 x Blenheim IV bombing at 7000 feet 3 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 7000 feet 1 x Blenheim I bombing at 7000 feet 1 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 7000 feet Nibbling away at his ASW forces too. Hopefully the combination will permit more sub attacks and consequently more damage to his heavies -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 19,7 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 8 A6M3 Zero x 7 Allied aircraft Blenheim I x 2 Beaufort V-IX x 8 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged A6M3 Zero: 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses Blenheim I: 1 destroyed Beaufort V-IX: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged Japanese Ships BB Yamashiro, on fire Aircraft Attacking: 1 x Blenheim I bombing at 7000 feet 3 x Beaufort V-IX launching torpedoes at 200 feet 3 x Beaufort V-IX launching torpedoes at 200 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 19,9 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 6 Allied aircraft B-26B Marauder x 2 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses B-26B Marauder: 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Adak Island at 98,36 Japanese Ships SS I-124, hits 10 Allied Ships MSW Guysborough MSW Caraquet PG Moncton PG Vancouver -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 320022 troops, 3581 guns, 27 vehicles, Assault Value = 6248 Defending force 176387 troops, 1238 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3845 Allied ground losses: 322 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 42,30 Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 17436 troops, 185 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 248 Defending force 8827 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 54 Japanese max assault: 250 - adjusted assault: 236 Allied max defense: 54 - adjusted defense: 51 Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 50 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Allied ground losses: 10 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chengtu Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 8186 troops, 8 guns, 515 vehicles, Assault Value = 261 Defending force 16592 troops, 58 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 265 Japanese max assault: 448 - adjusted assault: 85 Allied max defense: 257 - adjusted defense: 101 Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3) Japanese ground losses: 163 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Vehicles lost 12 Allied ground losses: 369 casualties reported Guns lost 10 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chandpur Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 19933 troops, 123 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 386 Defending force 10519 troops, 129 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 132 Japanese max assault: 316 - adjusted assault: 196 Allied max defense: 97 - adjusted defense: 43 Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese forces CAPTURE Chandpur base !!! Japanese ground losses: 227 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Vehicles lost 1 Allied ground losses: 11041 casualties reported Guns lost 71 Nothing surprisng here. These guys were trapped in the original invasion.

Capt. Harlock -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (6/25/2006 11:59:41 PM)
I think you made a major mistake in sending the RN to try conclusions with Nemo at Bombay, instead of waiting for him just off Karaichi. and if he takes his time getting there, you could always have tried a few more bombardments of his ground troops.

itsjustme -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (6/26/2006 12:06:34 AM)
generally, I would completely agree with you. however, as you will note, I had completely lost air superiority and leaving those surface forces in Karachi simply meant that they would go to the bottom without getting any licks in. Instead, I was able to take some of the IJN with me. If I had maintained control of the air, I would not have gone on that suicide run.

itsjustme -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (6/26/2006 12:53:24 AM)
Here's the most recent turn AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/31/42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Adak Island, at 98,36 Allied Ships CA Chicago CA Louisville CA Northampton CA Indianapolis CA Portland BB Mississippi BB New Mexico BB Idaho BB Colorado Japanese ground losses: 499 casualties reported Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 12 Port hits 2 Port supply hits 11 A bit of damage to the aleutians. I am attacking the next turn and expect to push these guys off the island and establish a bit of a forward base for bombardment runs into Amchitka. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 10th Group Army, at 39,34 Japanese aircraft Ki-27 Nate x 46 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 20 casualties reported Aircraft Attacking: 35 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 7 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 4 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Karachi , at 21,3 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 102 A6M3 Zero x 13 Ki-21 Sally x 194 Ki-49 Helen x 7 Ki-46-II Dinah x 7 Allied aircraft Mohawk IV x 6 Hurricane II x 1 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21 Sally: 7 destroyed, 32 damaged Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses Mohawk IV: 4 destroyed Hurricane II: 1 destroyed Dakota I: 4 destroyed B-25C Mitchell: 20 destroyed Blenheim I: 2 destroyed Beaufort V-IX: 8 destroyed Blenheim IV: 3 destroyed PBY Catalina: 2 destroyed Buffalo I: 1 destroyed Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed Allied ground losses: 115 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 11 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 138 Aircraft Attacking: 9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 7 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet Disaster. Somehow the b-25b's upgraded to c's and the ones on the ground got slaughtered. This brings up an interesting question however. I tranferred all my 4es to Irktusk to rest and rebuild. They are now fully rebuild and morale in the high 90s. I was considering flying them back into Karachi and setting them immediately to airfield attack. Thoughts on this? I'd love to put a pasting on Nemo's airfields when he least expects it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Trimcomalee , at 15,25 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 9 Allied aircraft SB-2c x 3 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses SB-2c: 1 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on French Frigate Shoal , at 104,68 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 10 No Allied losses Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 4 Aircraft Attacking: 6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 17000 feet 4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 17000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 120th USN Base Force, at 42,58 Japanese aircraft A5M4 Claude x 59 D3A Val x 106 B5N Kate x 152 Ki-27 Nate x 108 Ki-51 Sonia x 14 Ki-15 Babs x 2 No Japanese losses Aircraft Attacking: 6 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 18 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 13 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 6 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 20 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 5 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 5 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet 5 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet 4 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet 20 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 20 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 4 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 13 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 13 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 4 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 13 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 13 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 15 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 12 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 13 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 13 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 11 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 13 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 11 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 11 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 10 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 11 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 11 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 10 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 8 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 13 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 71st Chinese Division, at 39,35 Japanese aircraft Ki-27 Nate x 24 Ki-48 Lily x 81 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 74 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Aircraft Attacking: 6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 11 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 21 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 5 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 15 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 5 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 81st PA Division, at 42,58 Japanese aircraft A5M4 Claude x 32 D3A Val x 53 B5N Kate x 79 Ki-27 Nate x 50 Ki-51 Sonia x 9 Ki-15 Babs x 2 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 6 casualties reported Aircraft Attacking: 9 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 6 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 9 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet 9 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 8 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 3 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 6 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 6 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 3 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 7 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 6 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 7 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 7 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 5 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 5 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 6 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 5 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 6 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 6 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 5 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 6 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 2 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 93,60 Japanese Ships PC Ch 24 PC Ch 21 PC Takunan Maru #10 PC Takuna Maru #7 PC Takuna Maru #6 PC Shonon Maru #11 PC Shonon Maru #10 PC Shonon Maru #3 PC Sonan Maru #6 PC Sonan Maru #5 PC Kyo Maru #7 PC Kyo Maru #6 PC Fumi Maru #3 Allied Ships SS S-31, hits 7, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 180202 troops, 2194 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 5209 Defending force 176098 troops, 1242 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3849 Allied ground losses: 133 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 42,30 Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 17380 troops, 180 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 246 Defending force 8858 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 55 Japanese max assault: 248 - adjusted assault: 200 Allied max defense: 55 - adjusted defense: 67 Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 29 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Vehicles lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 23,47 Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 5332 troops, 183 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 55 Defending force 1930 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2 Allied ground losses: 41 casualties reported

Sneer -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (6/26/2006 1:15:43 AM)
do not limit yourself :-)

itsjustme -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (6/26/2006 1:23:56 AM)
I am just wondering if it will work or if my bombers will be so tired from the flight that they will just get caught on the ground. Thoughts?

ny59giants -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (6/26/2006 2:08:07 AM)
The morale of your 4e bombers will not go down from the transfer, but they will have high fatigue which will lead to higher than normal combat loses. However, since this is a "no holds bar" game, I say go for it. [:D] You might to do it on a turn when there is bad weather (rain) at Karachi and allow them a chance to rest.

itsjustme -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (7/1/2006 12:04:07 AM)
Very frustrating turn.[:@] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/03/42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1064 encounters mine field at Dutch Harbor (103,36) Allied Ships MSW Quatsino -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack at 93,61 Japanese Ships PC Ch 24 PC Ch 21 PC Takunan Maru #10 PC Takuna Maru #7 PC Takuna Maru #6 PC Shonon Maru #11 PC Shonon Maru #10 PC Shonon Maru #3 PC Sonan Maru #6 PC Sonan Maru #5 PC Kyo Maru #7 PC Kyo Maru #6 PC Fumi Maru #3 Allied Ships SS Flying Fish, hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 21,3 Japanese Ships BB Kongo BB Haruna BB Hiei BB Kirishima BB Yamato BB Hyuga CA Tone CA Chikuma CA Takao CA Maya CA Chokai CA Myoko CA Nachi CA Ashigara CA Mogami CA Mikuma CA Kumano CA Aoba CA Kinugasa CA Furutaka DD Akigumo DD Makigumo, Shell hits 2 DD Oyashio, Shell hits 1 DD Nowaki Allied Ships PT PT-36 PT PT-37, Shell hits 1, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Karachi, at 21,3 Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses Dakota I: 4 destroyed Beaufort V-IX: 3 destroyed Blenheim I: 1 destroyed B-25C Mitchell: 10 destroyed PBY Catalina: 1 destroyed Hurricane II: 1 destroyed Blenheim IF: 1 destroyed Swordfish: 1 destroyed Wellington III: 1 destroyed Kittyhawk I: 1 destroyed Mohawk IV: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships CA Furutaka CA Kinugasa CA Aoba CA Kumano CA Mikuma CA Mogami CA Ashigara CA Nachi CA Myoko CA Chokai CA Maya CA Takao CA Chikuma CA Tone BB Hyuga BB Yamato BB Kirishima BB Hiei BB Haruna BB Kongo Allied Ships SS KXVII, hits 31, on fire, heavy damage AK Empire Adur, Shell hits 19, on fire, heavy damage AP Dardanus, Shell hits 18, on fire, heavy damage SS Grenadier, hits 25, on fire, heavy damage MSW Cromarty, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AK Empire Wildebeeste, Shell hits 13, on fire, heavy damage Allied ground losses: 11244 casualties reported Guns lost 107 Vehicles lost 30 Airbase hits 21 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 93 Port hits 57 Port fuel hits 5 Port supply hits 6 The Battline just nukes me.... [:@][:@] The loss of these ships in harbor is not unexpected and really unavoidable. They all had significant system and flotation damage and would have been unable to make a run to safety. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1035 encounters mine field at Dutch Harbor (103,36) Allied Ships SS Grenadier, and is sunk SS KXVII, and is sunk AK Empire Wildebeeste, and is sunk AK Empire Adur, and is sunk AP Dardanus, and is sunk MSW Courtenay -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1064 encounters mine field at Dutch Harbor (103,36) Allied Ships MSW Quatsino -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1007 encounters mine field at Amchitka Island (96,36) - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 476 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships DMS Perry, Shell hits 75, on fire, heavy damage DMS Hopkins, Shell hits 101, on fire, heavy damage DMS Southard, Shell hits 91, on fire, heavy damage CA Indianapolis, Mine hits 1 BB New Mexico, Mine hits 1 BB Mississippi, Mine hits 1 This really pisses me off and I don't understand it. The DMSs were in the same task force as the BBs and CAs and escort bombardment was turned off. They get plastered by the coastal guns and sink, yet my heavies don't get hit at all.[:@][:@][:@] Anyone care to try and explain? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 10th Group Army, at 39,34 Japanese aircraft Ki-27 Nate x 38 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 13 casualties reported Aircraft Attacking: 35 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Karachi , at 21,3 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 9 Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 52 Ki-21 Sally x 33 Ki-49 Helen x 36 Ki-46-II Dinah x 6 Allied aircraft Lysander I x 1 Mohawk IV x 1 Hurricane II x 1 Kittyhawk I x 2 P-40B Tomahawk x 1 P-40E Warhawk x 1 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged Ki-21 Sally: 13 damaged Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed, 10 damaged Allied aircraft losses Lysander I: 1 destroyed Mohawk IV: 1 damaged Hurricane II: 2 destroyed P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed B-25C Mitchell: 5 destroyed Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed Beaufort V-IX: 2 destroyed Dakota I: 3 destroyed Buffalo I: 1 destroyed PBY Catalina: 1 destroyed Catalina I: 1 destroyed Allied ground losses: 27 casualties reported Airbase hits 9 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 51 Aircraft Attacking: 4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 5 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Karachi , at 21,3 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 43 A6M3 Zero x 6 Ki-21 Sally x 104 Ki-49 Helen x 6 Ki-46-II Dinah x 4 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21 Sally: 2 destroyed, 25 damaged Ki-49 Helen: 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses Kittyhawk I: 2 destroyed Dakota I: 2 destroyed B-25C Mitchell: 6 destroyed Beaufort V-IX: 3 destroyed Hurricane II: 2 destroyed PBY Catalina: 3 destroyed Catalina I: 1 destroyed Allied ground losses: 49 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 8 Runway hits 61 Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 1 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Karachi , at 21,3 Japanese aircraft Ki-46-II Dinah x 2 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Trimcomalee , at 15,25 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 12 Allied aircraft SB-2c x 2 Japanese aircraft losses G3M Nell: 1 destroyed Runway hits 2 Aircraft Attacking: 2 x SB-2c bombing at 5000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Colombo , at 14,24 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 11 Ki-21 Sally x 27 Ki-49 Helen x 19 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses Wirraway: 1 destroyed Airbase hits 17 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 50 Aircraft Attacking: 15 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 9 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 71st Chinese Division, at 39,35 Japanese aircraft Ki-27 Nate x 24 Ki-48 Lily x 76 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 38 casualties reported Aircraft Attacking: 6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 24 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 5 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 15 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 7 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 8 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet 4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 81st PA Division, at 42,58 Japanese aircraft A5M4 Claude x 67 D3A Val x 155 B5N Kate x 170 Ki-27 Nate x 171 Ki-51 Sonia x 20 Ki-15 Babs x 4 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 8 casualties reported Aircraft Attacking: 5 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 20 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 18 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 6 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 18 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 6 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 6 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet 5 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet 5 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 20 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 20 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 15 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 4 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 13 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 14 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 15 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 11 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 13 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 12 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 11 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 11 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 13 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 11 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 8 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 10 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 11 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 7 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 7 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 9 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 9 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 9 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 6 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 3 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 7 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 5 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 5 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet 6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 6 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 5 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 6 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet 2 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Karachi , at 21,3 Japanese aircraft Ki-46-II Dinah x 1 No Japanese losses -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 21,3 Japanese Ships BB Kongo BB Haruna BB Hiei BB Kirishima BB Yamato BB Hyuga CA Tone CA Chikuma CA Takao CA Maya CA Chokai CA Myoko CA Nachi CA Ashigara CA Mogami CA Mikuma CA Kumano CA Aoba CA Kinugasa CA Furutaka DD Akigumo DD Makigumo DD Oyashio DD Nowaki Allied Ships PT PT-36, Shell hits 9, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Amchitka Island, at 96,36 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 214 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships CA Chicago, Shell hits 17 CA Louisville, Shell hits 15 CA Northampton CA Indianapolis CA Portland, Shell hits 26 BB Mississippi BB New Mexico BB Idaho, Shell hits 25 BB Colorado, Shell hits 29 Japanese ground losses: 27 casualties reported This looks bad, but none of the ships suffer any flotation damage and the highest system damage is 7. [8D] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 180822 troops, 2215 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 3491 Defending force 175892 troops, 1235 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3860 Allied ground losses: 154 casualties reported Guns lost 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chengtu Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 7914 troops, 8 guns, 493 vehicles, Assault Value = 242 Defending force 16547 troops, 56 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 261 Japanese max assault: 191 - adjusted assault: 36 Allied max defense: 261 - adjusted defense: 106 Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3) Japanese ground losses: 80 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Vehicles lost 5 Allied ground losses: 623 casualties reported Guns lost 29 All in all a very frustrating turn. I am trying to find someplace to hit back, but Nemo is doing a great job of defending everywhere with decent strength.

Sneer -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (7/1/2006 1:51:35 PM)
go for gilberts if you can in his AAR ANdy MAc found that even with india lost he can keep timeline cos of early taken gilberts

Fishbed -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (7/1/2006 2:20:48 PM)
quote: TF 1007 encounters mine field at Amchitka Island (96,36) - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 476 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships DMS Perry, Shell hits 75, on fire, heavy damage DMS Hopkins, Shell hits 101, on fire, heavy damage DMS Southard, Shell hits 91, on fire, heavy damage CA Indianapolis, Mine hits 1 BB New Mexico, Mine hits 1 BB Mississippi, Mine hits 1 This really pisses me off and I don't understand it. The DMSs were in the same task force as the BBs and CAs and escort bombardment was turned off. They get plastered by the coastal guns and sink, yet my heavies don't get hit at all. Anyone care to try and explain? This phase was a minesweeping phase. Any MS that enters an enemy base mined hex is subject both to sweeping and to become dead meat for the coastal batteries. Looks like you triggered a double battery fire phase for his forces - the minesweeping one and the naval bombardement one. Bad luck [:(]

itsjustme -> RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness (7/3/2006 2:40:14 AM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/11/42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1035 encounters mine field at Dutch Harbor (103,36) Allied Ships MSW Courtenay -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1064 encounters mine field at Dutch Harbor (103,36) Allied Ships MSW Quatsino -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 10th Group Army, at 39,34 Japanese aircraft Ki-27 Nate x 29 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 12 casualties reported Aircraft Attacking: 26 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32 Japanese aircraft Ki-27 Nate x 22 Ki-48 Lily x 94 Ki-46-II Dinah x 5 Ki-15 Babs x 9 Allied aircraft I-153c x 3 I-16c x 7 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-27 Nate: 2 destroyed Ki-48 Lily: 2 destroyed, 15 damaged Allied aircraft losses I-153c: 3 destroyed I-16c: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged Allied ground losses: 6 casualties reported Airbase hits 15 Airbase supply hits 6 Runway hits 65 Aircraft Attacking: 4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet 13 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet 6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet 10 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet 9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet 5 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet 3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet 3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet 11 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet 6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet 3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet 6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet 2 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet 3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet 3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet 3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet 2 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet Chungking continues to get pounded. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Colombo , at 14,24 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 8 Ki-21 Sally x 21 Allied aircraft Wirraway x 7 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21 Sally: 7 damaged Allied aircraft losses Wirraway: 1 damaged Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 7 Aircraft Attacking: 6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 1st Tank Regiment, at 36,25 Allied aircraft SB-2c x 7 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 6 casualties reported Vehicles lost 1 Aircraft Attacking: 4 x SB-2c bombing at 5000 feet 3 x SB-2c bombing at 5000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 119th USAAF Base Force, at 38,59 Japanese aircraft Ki-27 Nate x 133 No Japanese losses Allied ground losses: 57 casualties reported Guns lost 2 Aircraft Attacking: 6 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 20 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 19 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 6 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 23 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 7 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 7 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 21 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet 24 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 2nd Chinese Cavalry Corps, at 45,35 Japanese aircraft Ki-27 Nate x 10 No Japanese losses Aircraft Attacking: 10 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 51st Base Force, at 108,86 Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 11 Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged Allied ground losses: 18 casualties reported Aircraft Attacking: 10 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 6000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 20,6 Allied aircraft Wellington III x 3 Allied aircraft losses Wellington III: 3 damaged Japanese Ships BB Haruna Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Wellington III bombing at 7000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Chungking Japanese Bombardment attack Attacking force 163940 troops, 2085 guns, 9 vehicles, Assault Value = 3316 Defending force 172406 troops, 1208 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3862 Allied ground losses: 268 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at 42,30 Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 17337 troops, 172 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 250 Defending force 7701 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 46 Japanese max assault: 253 - adjusted assault: 27 Allied max defense: 41 - adjusted defense: 49 Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 Japanese ground losses: 4 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Allied ground losses: 13 casualties reported

itsjustme -> Houston, we have a problem (7/9/2006 10:02:43 PM)
It's become clear to me that Nemo is upset with me. I need advice on how to deal with this. Nemo has engaged Karachi and in an effort to defend this critical city in this lunacy game, I have begun moving everything but the kitchen sink into Karachi. This was permitted by our agreed upon rules at the beginning of the game (teleportation around the map was permissible). Now as it is becoming clear that taking Karachi will be VERY difficult, if not impossible, Nemo is complaining about the teleportation tactic. In response to his concerns, I have offered the only compromise I believe I can live with: A cease fire until 10.43, no offensives out of Karachi until after that date, no airborne operations out of Karachi until after I have cleared the city hex adjoining Karachi (this will permit Nemo some level of comfort and no need to use forces to garrison other cities) and no naval sorties from Karachi until after 10.43. To date Nemo has chosen not to accept the trade off, which is fine, however, I need to know whether to continue to move troops into Karachi or not. Instead it appears that he is going to take another run at trying to reduce Karachi and then decide if to take my offer. This is obviously unfair on a number of levels. I understood from the beginning that if Karachi fell I would lose access to these troops for the remainder of the game (something completely not possible IRL, but something I accepted as an agreed upon rule), now, however, it seems to me that while Nemo is more than happy to take advantage of the Japanese first move teleportation, he is incensed by my willingness to use it to my advantage. He also appears to be upset with my flying bombers through Russia to Karachi. Again, this was not suggested as impermissible during our negotiations of the game. Can someone please provide some insight on the reasonableness of my position? I am enjoying the game very much, but believe that what is good for the goose should be good for the gander. Thanks for reading and hopefully I'll be back to posting combat updates soon.

Nomad -> RE: Houston, we have a problem (7/9/2006 10:15:13 PM)
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itsjustme -> RE: Houston, we have a problem (7/9/2006 10:17:23 PM)
Nomad, Thanks for your reply. Although I appreciate the response, please don't quote from Nemo's AAR (no matter how innocuously) as I don't want to be subject to any accusations of having information not intended for my eyes. Thanks again for posting and I appreciate the support. [&o]

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