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Gen.Hoepner -> RE: the Struggle for India (12/21/2007 4:38:54 PM)
In the meantime supply levels are rising up at Karachi. 280,000 supplies present today with more 30,000 coming from Aden and more 110,000 which are being loading at Bombay that will arrive at Karachi (if the KB doesn't ruin my plans) within the next week or so. Let's say that in a month i'll be able to mass some 350/400,000 supplies at Karachi. Not bad at all. Some 20,000 oil is also moving on TK towards Karachi in order to make the HI running fine and smooth for some more time. Looking at the replay screenshot (the one that shows the KB moving along the western coast of India) i'm thinking that he's not really coming for Bombay. I guess he wants to smash Mangalore ord Pangim harbour and land there, so to estabilish an AF close enough to Bombay and a port on the western Coast. While if he's really coming for Bombay...well i'll lose some ships, probably some planes...but nothing serious. (i hope)

TenChiMato -> RE: the Struggle for India (12/21/2007 5:39:16 PM)
Several questions/ideas regarding your available air units in India/PI : No way you can upgrade a RAAF squadron from Hudson to Beaufort? Perhaps you can also upgrade a US fighter group from P40 to early P38.Ok its a one shot action due to the low replacement pool, but still a nasty surprise for him, especially if his elite fighter daitais are very tired from constant realocation

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: the Struggle for India (12/21/2007 6:33:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TenChiMato No way you can upgrade a RAAF squadron from Hudson to Beaufort? Perhaps you can also upgrade a US fighter group from P40 to early P38.Ok its a one shot action due to the low replacement pool, but still a nasty surprise for him, especially if his elite fighter daitais are very tired from constant realocation No way, i could only downgrade them to Dakotas (and that's what i did in order to be able to rescue those 2 important units trapped at Mangalore and i also hope to save the Madras base force all the same). - The P-38 isn't a bad idea, gotta take a look if it's possible cause i think i still do not have 24 P-38s ready....gotta check!

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: the Struggle for India (12/21/2007 6:56:57 PM)
Checked...only 18 P-38s ready...no way to change them...good idea however![;)]

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: the Struggle for India (12/22/2007 9:21:29 AM)
Ok, got the turn file. As you can see from the screen shot, our P-40s did a pretty good job in the PI last turn. 12 crack zeros shot down, along with some bombers. Not that bad.We lost 27 P-40s but mainly the non-experienced pilots...those who were above 60 exp managed to stay alive. Now i've rebased them at Manila, along with 2 bomber groups. I wanna force him to keep on bombing Luzon. Clark is still more or less operative. If he doesn't bomb it again tomorrow i could rebase here my bombers! In India, we have a problem. I'm not that sure that the one i see from my naval recon is the real KB. We've spotted and identified the CVE hosho, in a TF with- what my pilots say- 4 CVs. The problem is that the entire KB cannot be contained in only 1 CVTF, so i think it is only 1 CV division, probably a reinforced baby-KB...so where the hell is the real KB!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Anyway 3 more BB TFs are moving along the coast. Considering the overcast weather forecasted for tomorrow i think it's plausible an attack en masse against Bombay Fortress. He has TONS of planes at Bengalore, in range to smash Bombay...3 BB TFs are a bit to much for a bombing run against Pangim or Mangalore...so Bombay must be the target. I've rebased my fighters which now are spread in more bases and left at Bombay only 10 Catalinas. At Bombay there are also some 30 ships that are loading fuel and supplies...they are expendable, while my fighters are not! I've also ordered to my transport planes to try a sneaky action:save 3 depleated units from the shock-pursue combo of his tanks! If i manage to bring every men back in one turn i can slow him down considerably because he won't be able to jump one hex per day no more...let's see. RN is at sea, just in case. I've converted the U.S. group of Mohawk at Karachi to P-40s...need the best i can for the final defence! In the pacific, i've ordered to form the sub screen west of the Marshalls...20 subs are dispacthed for this task. Their goal is to inform us if the KB is coming...if it's so we must reconsider the invasion...[:(]...my CVs are a bit late...however tomorrow we'll start to bomb Kwalajein and in 3 days we'll land at Tarawa with 2 NZ Bde, 1 CD unit, 1 Base force and 2 arty units. The Tarawa landing will have two goals: place my catalinas closer to the area of operation and distract him from the real target. At the same time we'll put every effort in the PI bombing campaign in order to force him to keep his nells there.... It's risky, i know but we need to gamble [image]local://upfiles/4162/BF7414C2A3A447E38FC1B35019550907.jpg[/image]

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: the Struggle for India (12/22/2007 9:23:11 AM)
Indian theatre. As you can see our retreat is going just fine. If we manage to cat-n'-mouse at Bombay for a bit we should delay him some more....and there are 1900 mines waiting for his BBs at Bombay[8D] [image]local://upfiles/4162/2F19A92665544CCF9FB2D5A680B64E40.jpg[/image]

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: the Struggle for India (12/22/2007 3:49:07 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/12/42 Ok, it's confirmed it's not the whole KB. just a baby KB escorting some 4 BB TFs heading for Bombay. I managed to evacuate most of my transports from Bombay. Just 5 TKs will probably be left beyond because i forgot to give them the right orders last turn. However all my planes are safe![;)] and can fight another day! Now the porblem is: the the KB is?????? It will be the most important task for the next days...find the KB!!! If the KB is in the pacific i think i'll have to completely change my plans....first rule: survive and fight another day! In China he sent his bombers from Formosa to hit Whuchow, where my bombers had moved. just 4 are lost on the ground, so not a big problem. Now my B-25s are back at Luzon, while my B-17s are moved back to India. Gotta keep him concentrated at Luzon. The air bridge in India went perfectly! We've saved what remained of the badly depleted Indian regiment and when he shocked he didn't find anyone to pursue[;)] This will slow down his advance... Bad weather in CentPac...my bombers won't take off tomorrow from Wake[:(] There will be some news in China tomorrow...[:'(] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Wuchow , at 42,39 not impressive! Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 7 G3M Nell x 29 G4M1 Betty x 53 Ki-49 Helen x 16 Allied aircraft I-153c x 3 Japanese aircraft losses G3M Nell: 1 destroyed G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged Ki-49 Helen: 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses I-153c: 3 destroyed B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed IL-4c: 1 destroyed B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed Allied ground losses: 38 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 3 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 26 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 15,9 the baby Kb managed to find and sink 2 AKs near Bombay...not a big deal and we have the confirm that only CVE and CVLs are present... Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 33 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Empire Spray, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AK Empire Trust, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 16,6 his subs have started to operate again between Aden and Karachi Japanese Ships SS I-169 Allied Ships AK Empire Rani, Torpedo hits 1 MSW Banka -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Raipur CUCU, nobody is here to follow[;)] Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 1192 troops, 0 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 25 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 42 - adjusted assault: 12 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 12 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese forces CAPTURE Raipur base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Malir he tried to close my back door with a paradrop....you can catch me off guard with the same trick only once my dear friend[;)] Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 98 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7 Defending force 6566 troops, 118 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 51 Japanese max assault: 8 - adjusted assault: 0 Allied max defense: 51 - adjusted defense: 31 Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 2) Japanese ground losses: 53 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [image]local://upfiles/4162/3E258A5B72564C75BB93ECBD6A682C14.jpg[/image]

Gen.Hoepner -> KB in the Gulf of Aden! (12/22/2007 7:04:28 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/13/42 Ok, i was wrong. The whole KB has sprung from nowehere and went hunting my ships between Karachi and Aden. So he didn't want to bomb Bombay with his BBs....wonder why he has brought with him the BBs if it was only a CV raid...[&:] However i've lost several ships. Mostly AKs but also some Aux vassels used for the ASW. Nothing serious however. The main fleet is safe...oh, well...almost safe. Let's see if tomorrow the clouds or some easy luck will make my BBs arrive at Aden unseen...let's cross the fingers. My CVs will try to LRCAP over my main combat fleet..it will be a risky operation! Anyway, for what concerns the land war in India, we managed to save also the last Indian Bde trapped at Hydebarn. The shock attack of the japs found noone to follow or pursue[8D]. Now my units all reached the defensive perimeter (see picture). I'll wait untill he advance and then i'll move back from Bombay to Ahmadabad and from Bohpal and Delhi to Jaipur...doing well i think. In the PI he didn't bomb today but his planes remain at Formosa...which is good. With the KB in the Indian Ocean i ordered to speed it up the Marshall operation.... If the weather will be good (thunderstorm forecasted) tomorrow we'll start bombing Kwalajein and in 2 days we'll land at Tarawa... However there isn't any more traffic in the China southern sea...he had to divert his main convoys[:D] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Slaughterhouse in the Indian ocean Day Air attack on TF at 13,4 Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 9 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Empire Lakeland, Torpedo hits 1, on fire AK Empire Tana, Torpedo hits 2, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 16,1 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 21 D3A2 Val x 26 B5N2 Kate x 8 Japanese aircraft losses D3A2 Val: 2 damaged B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged Allied Ships AK Empire Lynx, Bomb hits 1 AK Empire Wyclif, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage AK Empire Voice, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 16,1 Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 25 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 4 damaged Allied Ships AK Empire Wyclif, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage AK City of Manchester, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AK Empire Lynx, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 16,2 Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 47 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged Allied Ships MSW Bendigo, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage PC Circe, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage MSW Burnie, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage MSW Maryborough, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage PC Raub, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage PG Indus, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 19,8 Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 9 No Japanese losses Allied Ships TK Empire Emerald, Bomb hits 1, on fire TK Empire Amethyst, Bomb hits 1, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 19,2 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val x 25 B5N2 Kate x 26 No Japanese losses Allied Ships SC Nigella, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage MSW Cromarty, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage MSW Cromer, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage SC Aster, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage MSW Lismore, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage SC Hollyhock -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 19,2 Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 21 No Japanese losses Allied Ships MSW Lismore, on fire, heavy damage SC Hollyhock MSW Cromarty, on fire, heavy damage SC Aster, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 20,3 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val x 21 B5N2 Kate x 21 No Japanese losses Allied Ships PG Shoreham, Bomb hits 1, on fire SC Cyclamen, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage MSW Poole, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage SC Genista, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage PC Netravati SC Fritillary -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 20,3 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val x 25 B5N2 Kate x 25 Japanese aircraft losses D3A2 Val: 1 damaged Allied Ships AK Virginian, Bomb hits 12, on fire, heavy damage AK Empire Homer, Bomb hits 2, on fire AK Empire Chaucer, Bomb hits 1, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Hyderabad Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 2956 troops, 0 guns, 79 vehicles, Assault Value = 346 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0[:D][:D][:D] there's none to pursue neither here my friend[;)] Japanese max assault: 154 - adjusted assault: 79 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 79 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese forces CAPTURE Hyderabad base !!! [image]local://upfiles/4162/FB468A94A8AE416D8B904806CC4E0AD3.jpg[/image]

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! (12/22/2007 7:17:29 PM)
Honestly i'm quite happy about the overall view. I was terribly scared the KB would have slipped away unseen from India and that it was heading towards the pacific. While it seems that he's concentrating every effort in the Indian sub-continent, leaving a good door open in the pacific. If i manage to get ashore and estabilish a solid bridge head in the Marshalls the tide can really change. Anyway now my main concerns are about India. We have to see how much time the KB will spend near Karachi. It's gonna start a very interesting war of supplying karachi. I'd like to add to its defence also a tank unit that is coming within 10 days at Aden but i have to be carefull not to be caught there by those damned CVs...which however will surely have to sail back to Tricomale sooner or later to refuel and refit a bit. It's gonna be like Malta in the WW2...yes, it's going to be cool and very interesting. With this retreat plan i think i'll be able to master easily 2500 AVs at Karachi for the final stand. With some luck 3,000. His BBs will surely play a foundamental role in the siege...i'm terribly looking forward to see how this war will unfold[;)]

Mistmatz -> RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! (12/22/2007 8:33:07 PM)
KB still in the IO is really good news. I wonder how he reacts when you start assaulting his islands in the pacific. Should be a terrible christmas present for japanese morale. Strategically I think he already lost the game. He simply cannot withdraw that many forces from India without risking to loose the whole continent again. On the other hand those forces will be terribly missed in the PI and Pacific area. But I'm sure he still has some tricks up his sleeve. The next weeks are going to be interesting. [:)]

Feinder -> RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! (12/22/2007 9:19:22 PM)
Good grief Hop, you've got a 15 page AAR, and it's only 02-15... [;)] -F-

Admiral Spruance -> RE: the Struggle for India (12/22/2007 11:18:24 PM)
Well, now you have finally confirmed that the bulk of KB is _DEEP_ into the Arabian Sea......now you have at least 3-4 weeks for your Marshalls offensive(or even transport supply/reinforcements to the PI). I have a feeling that KB has replenishment TFs standing by and will be interdicting the sea lanes from Aden to Karachi for some time to prevent 7th AIF or 7th Armored from reinforcing Karachi. Did you manage to get a command HQ(SEAC or Malaya) and a corps HQ(III Indian) 100% prepped for Karachi to Karachi? After the Marshalls ops, any chance of using the USN CVs to ferry some Marine F4F-3s to the PI?

Elladan -> RE: the Struggle for India (12/23/2007 12:27:58 AM)
What are your plans for after you get your bases in Marshalls? Do you plan to push farther if circumstances allow or do you hope to draw forces from India operation?

Jim D Burns -> RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! (12/23/2007 9:33:08 AM)
How many divisions could he potentially have afloat right now? He may be going for an invasion straight for Karachi or Aden with this move, otherwise all the other shipping he brought with KB makes no sense. Jim

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! (12/23/2007 11:33:04 AM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/14/42 What a carnage!!!! His CVs are spread all along the Karachi gulf, just stopping any shipping lane between Karachi and Aden. NEarly 30 ships sunk, luckly none of them till now had any troop aboard...just supplies...however my ASW RN fleet is lies on the bottom of the Arabic Sea right now and i simply cannot interdict his mighty carriers...just have to suffer and wait that the storm is passed by[:o] It doesn't seem to be any transport TF along with the CVs, not any replenishment TFs...so probably this is just a raid to find my combat fleet, which is now safe at Aden (well, safe so to say...). I'm trying to cat-mouse between Bombay and Karachi with my RAF, but as soon as he decides to destroy it there won't really be no hope to hold both his CVs and his LBAs.... Today he stormed Poona, finding only some Dakotas[:D]that managed to get safe the Madras BAse force before Mangalore was conquered and the garrison in it surrendered. The strange thing is that there are 2 transport TFs heading for Bombay...[&:] without any CV cover....quite strange...let's see if we can make him a present here[;)]....i have to keep in mind that my goal is to gain time....gain time to let the americans do something good in the pacific....the second front so to say! As you can see from the second screenshot attached the 7th Armoured Bde is arriving at Aden in 9 days... i do not think he has anything particularly big loaded right now for a landing at Aden...there are so many troops in India...he will need at least 4 divisions for the Aden adventure...probably even more considering the 9 forts and the urban hex and those 16inch guns....nor i think he can keep his KB forever at sea...all those big ships drink so much fuel!!! Today he smashed again Clark Fields with the same force that attacked it 4 days ago. That means his Nells and zeros are still up there...but he totally forgot Manila, where my bombers now have been rebased along with some more 30 fighters... ...and finally tomorrow the forecast says clear weather over Wake...my bombers should start to ruin Kwalajein!At the same time tomorrow we'll land with a Fast transport TF at Tarawa, which is empty from enemy units. then the next day will land the bulk of my invasion NZ force and 24 catalinas will immediately be based here. 18 B-17s are getting ready at Darwin...wanna start to give him some problems also at Ambonia and Kendari asap! The Retribution operation is going well. undetected we're grouping south of Johstons. The CVs are just 2 days away...tomorrow we'll start to move towards Maloep! Can't wait guys.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 16,3 he has deployed a great numbers of subs with his CVs in the Arabic Sea Japanese Ships SS I-20 Allied Ships AK Empire Oryx, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat at 12,2 just at the beginning of the Aden Channell Japanese Ships CA Tone CA Chikuma CA Takao CA Atago CA Maya CA Chokai CA Haguro CA Nachi CA Ashigara DD Yugumo DD Kuroshio DD Oyashio DD Hatsukaze DD Natsushio DD Yukikaze DD Hayashio DD Maikaze DD Amatsukaze DD Tokitsukaze DD Nowaki DD Arashi DD Hagikaze DD Ushio Allied Ships MSW Banka, Shell hits 8, and is sunk AK Empire Johnson, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk AK Empire Morn, Shell hits 22, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk AK Empire Rowan, Shell hits 24, and is sunk AK Empire Sunrise AK Empire Zephyr -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Poona , at 19,12 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 104 Ki-21-II Sally x 160 Ki-15 Babs x 7 Allied aircraft P-39D Airacobra x 1 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-II Sally: 1 destroyed, 15 damaged Ki-15 Babs: 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed Dakota I: 2 destroyed C-47 Dakota: 5 destroyed Allied ground losses: 31 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Airbase hits 7 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 16 This raid was particularly uneffective! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Clark Field , at 43,51 * 150 bombers...i have to keep these bastards away from the Marshalls...* Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 25 G3M Nell x 80 G4M1 Betty x 52 Ki-49 Helen x 38 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses G4M1 Betty: 4 damaged Ki-49 Helen: 3 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed Allied ground losses: 130 casualties reported Guns lost 4 Airbase hits 14 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 61 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 11,1 i avoid to post every single attack against my shippings near Karachi...let's just say that i've lost 33 ships today... Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val x 24 B5N2 Kate x 8 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Empire Zephyr, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AK Empire Sunrise, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Poona , at 19,12 again an ineffective raid against Poona Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 31 G3M Nell x 156 Ki-15 Babs x 1 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses G3M Nell: 3 destroyed, 17 damaged Allied aircraft losses Dakota I: 2 destroyed C-47 Dakota: 1 destroyed Allied ground losses: 35 casualties reported Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 8 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Mangalore * We lost here the Mangalore base-force-garrison along with a fragment of the Madras Base force* Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 25030 troops, 93 guns, 115 vehicles, Assault Value = 551 Defending force 7224 troops, 35 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 74 Japanese max assault: 888 - adjusted assault: 755 Allied max defense: 65 - adjusted defense: 61 Japanese assault odds: 12 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese forces CAPTURE Mangalore base !!! Japanese ground losses: 70 casualties reported Allied ground losses: 8666 casualties reported Guns lost 14 [image]local://upfiles/4162/6AAA77AC350E4CC0A5800746DFF7AE16.jpg[/image]

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! (12/23/2007 11:34:09 AM)
The reinforcement scheldue for Aden [image]local://upfiles/4162/F3F93947E8004D89A6D404F49D8A82C2.jpg[/image]

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! (12/23/2007 11:35:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Feinder Good grief Hop, you've got a 15 page AAR, and it's only 02-15... [;)] -F- Yes, i'm amazed how much this AAR is becoming popular[:)]

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: the Struggle for India (12/23/2007 11:38:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Admiral Spruance Well, now you have finally confirmed that the bulk of KB is _DEEP_ into the Arabian Sea......now you have at least 3-4 weeks for your Marshalls offensive(or even transport supply/reinforcements to the PI). I have a feeling that KB has replenishment TFs standing by and will be interdicting the sea lanes from Aden to Karachi for some time to prevent 7th AIF or 7th Armored from reinforcing Karachi. Hi, As said i have not noticed any replenishment TF along with the KB.... The 7th AIF is already at Karachi, while the 7th arm. Bde will arrive in 9 days.. Did you manage to get a command HQ(SEAC or Malaya) and a corps HQ(III Indian) 100% prepped for Karachi to Karachi? Indian HQ and SEAC HQ are at Karachi, 40% prepped for it, while the III Indian HQ is at Aden waiting for a chance of getting to Karachi... After the Marshalls ops, any chance of using the USN CVs to ferry some Marine F4F-3s to the PI? Well, it's a chance...but if the Marashall operation goes very well i think the next target will be the Mariannas, in order to create a brigde with the PI...

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: the Struggle for India (12/23/2007 11:41:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Elladan What are your plans for after you get your bases in Marshalls? Do you plan to push farther if circumstances allow or do you hope to draw forces from India operation? If i manage to get ashore at Maloep, i'll use Kwalajein as a training camp for my air crews and at the same time i'd like to push further...MArcus Island and the Mariannas could be an idea, but i have to play carefully...i really think that the next main goal would be to streghten is a certain way the PI, hoping that in India the Brits won't be kicked out of the war

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! (12/23/2007 11:46:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns How many divisions could he potentially have afloat right now? He may be going for an invasion straight for Karachi or Aden with this move, otherwise all the other shipping he brought with KB makes no sense. Jim Hi Jim, Potentially 4/5, not more. I've seen in the last 3 days at least 3 divisions and the 65th Bde in southern India, so i do not really know... Going directly for Aden i think it's too risky, while Karachi is a possibility...however i really do not see how he can do that without having a close supporting port for his BBs and an AF close enough to bomb the hell out of Karachi... I have 500 AVs at Karachi right now, with the 7th AIF division which is an elite division, with more 300 AVs at Malir...sounds quite tough to go for Karachi right now....however let's just see...i'm ready to order a general retreat as soon as i see any big transport formation approachin Bombay

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! (12/23/2007 12:20:42 PM)
340,000 Supplies at Karachi right now. Think i'll have to live with them for quite a long time cause now the shipping lane to Aden is closed. Maybe the HI will produce some more of them... Guys...the Brits are in a terrible situation...

okami -> RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! (12/23/2007 12:54:07 PM)
Actually the Japanese are in a teribble situation. Watch as Trolite over reacts to your landings in the Pacific. You should be prepared to take islands quickly and isolate islands like Kawjalein. Land at Eniwetok and build a base. Land LBA and crush him when he comes running back. But most of all have fun doing it and have a Merry Christmas.[:D][:D][:D]

Mistmatz -> RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! (12/23/2007 1:45:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: okami Actually the Japanese are in a teribble situation. Watch as Trolite over reacts to your landings in the Pacific. You should be prepared to take islands quickly and isolate islands like Kawjalein. Land at Eniwetok and build a base. Land LBA and crush him when he comes running back. But most of all have fun doing it and have a Merry Christmas.[:D][:D][:D] What worries me most in this AAR is that my opponent okami comes to a similar conclusion as I do. [8D][:)] We just started our game (RHS) but I hope it's going to be as interesting as yours is GH. Merry Christmas everyone!

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! (12/23/2007 2:20:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: okami Actually the Japanese are in a teribble situation. Watch as Trolite over reacts to your landings in the Pacific. You should be prepared to take islands quickly and isolate islands like Kawjalein. Land at Eniwetok and build a base. Land LBA and crush him when he comes running back. But most of all have fun doing it and have a Merry Christmas.[:D][:D][:D] Hi Okami, i won't land immediately at Eniwetok cause i want to avoid his LBA from Truk. Kwajalein would be closed by BBs and as soon as we estabilish the AFs at Maleop and Wotje, by everything i have that can fly. I will surely lose some ships due to the hundreds of mines that he surely has posed in the Marshalls and due also to his LBAs that can appear from Formosa. However i think that i has lost so few capital ships during this war that i can be somehow aggressive and accept some losses in terms of CVs and BBs... [image]local://upfiles/4162/0B717C5804E74DA79EDBEB9829376999.jpg[/image]

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! (12/23/2007 3:28:59 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/15/42 Ok readers, the first stage of Retribution operation has finally started. Scheldued for mid Feb 42, we're on time. Let's follow a strict order...: In India the Kb finally is going south...the channell is open again and my TFs are already moving from Aden to Karachi. Cannot wait too much because every day that passes he advance northwards, estabilishing new AFs closer to Bombay and Karachi. Today we tried to pay him a visit against a strange 10 ship transport TF between Pengim and Bombay...my unexperienced swordfish crew didn't manage any good hit...however the Cat-n-mouse game with my planes at Bombay is working fine[;)] Now i moved them all back to Karachi...so if he'll come tomorrow he's not going to find anything on my AFs at Bombay[;)] At the same time during nightime a fast transport TF landed a fragment of the 8th NZ Bde at Tarawa. The isle was empty and we managed to conquer it the following day. Tomorrow CD guns, base force, artillery units and another NZ Bde will land. At the same time we started the bombing campaign over Kwalajein...my B-17s aren't experienced, so the results are a bit poor but i take it and hope they'll get better. We didn't see any movement of planes from Formosa to Kwalajein....at least for now...moved at Manila one more B-17D group, in order to foul him again with some Long Range naval attacks...this should force him to keep an eye well open on Luzon... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1075 troops unloading over beach at Tarawa, 84,95 Allied ground losses: 469 casualties reported So here we go!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Kwajalein , at 81,84 Allied aircraft B-17E Fortress x 50 LB-30 Liberator x 11 F-4 Lightning x 1 Allied aircraft losses B-17E Fortress: 15 damaged OUCH! LB-30 Liberator: 1 damaged F-4 Lightning: 1 destroyed Japanese ground losses: 86 casualties reported Airbase hits 8 Airbase supply hits 5 Runway hits 43 Aircraft Attacking: all planes bombing at 15000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 17,13 south of Bombay....the results were poor[:(]...but the psycological effect is gained! Allied aircraft Swordfish x 12 Buffalo I x 13 Hurricane IIb x 12 Vildebeest IV x 11 Martin 139 x 9 P-40B Tomahawk x 12 P-40E Warhawk x 10 Allied aircraft losses Swordfish: 1 damaged Vildebeest IV: 1 damaged Japanese Ships AK Ryuto Maru AK Kenshin Maru AK Shirogane Maru MSW W.4 AK Akashi Maru PG Idzumo, Torpedo hits 1 MSW W.1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage AK Kosei Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Tarawa[:D] Allied Shock attack Attacking force 1599 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 57 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Allied max assault: 54 - adjusted assault: 28 Japanese max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 28 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Tarawa base !!![;)] [image]local://upfiles/4162/C31A938638D94F8DA44D3BCF09FB8534.jpg[/image]

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! (12/23/2007 3:30:17 PM)
India [image]local://upfiles/4162/107D28EE47654BE0B5B948CB4EAE19E9.jpg[/image]

eloso -> RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! (12/23/2007 3:43:40 PM)
This AAR is becoming more and more interesting. I've been lurking for some time waiting impatiently for the Marshalls operation. I do hope you plan to provide plenty of screen shots.

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! (12/23/2007 3:44:54 PM)
I'm trying to do as much screenshots as possible OSO...will try to be as descrictive as i can!

Yava -> RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! (12/23/2007 10:40:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner I'm trying to do as much screenshots as possible OSO...will try to be as descrictive as i can! Great read and some good ideas I shall have to consider implementing when it comes to my and Dixie's game.[:)]

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: KB in the Gulf of Aden! (12/24/2007 2:57:16 AM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 02/16/42 A crazy day! I made a huge mistake...left my wirraways on Naval attack, while my bombers were on naval search to avoid the carnage...result is somehow not that bad as i could fear, but could have been defenetly better!! Fierce a2a combats all over the skies of Karachi.The allies lost overall 116 planes, while the KB lost some 85 planes!!! quite a number for the KB!!! Hi goal seems however to distrupt my ships...very strange indeed...yes he gained points, but strategically i do not think where's the trick!! He landed a suicide fragment at Bombay, just to take a look at what i have there...this mismatched the movements of my troops at Poona that were catapulted eastwards...[:@] This is a tactic that i hate! He sent his SCTF to sink my ships at Karachi... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 21,3 Japanese Ships CL Tama CL Kiso DD Minekaze DD Sawakaze DD Okikaze DD Yukaze DD Hokaze DD Nokaze DD Namikaze DD Numakaze Allied Ships AK Empire Launcelot, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 21,3 Japanese Ships CL Tama CL Kiso DD Minekaze DD Sawakaze, Shell hits 1 DD Okikaze DD Yukaze DD Hokaze DD Nokaze DD Namikaze DD Numakaze Allied Ships TK Empire Coral, Shell hits 21, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage TK Empire Norse, Shell hits 16, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage TK Empire Onyx -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 21,3 Japanese Ships CL Tama CL Kiso DD Minekaze DD Sawakaze DD Okikaze DD Yukaze DD Hokaze DD Nokaze DD Namikaze, Shell hits 1 DD Numakaze Allied Ships AK Derrymore, Shell hits 7 AK Empire Razorbill, Shell hits 23, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk AK Deslock, Shell hits 1 AK Jalapalaka, Shell hits 5, on fire AK Madura, Shell hits 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 21,3 Japanese Ships CL Tama CL Kiso DD Minekaze DD Sawakaze DD Okikaze DD Yukaze DD Hokaze DD Nokaze DD Namikaze DD Numakaze Allied Ships SC Hollyhock, Shell hits 11, and is sunk SC Fritillary MSW Cochin, Shell hits 11, and is sunk PC Pathan PC Netravati, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk PC Parvati, Shell hits 3, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Bombay at 18,11 Japanese Ships CL Abukuma CL Kuma DD Hatsuharu DD Nenohi Allied Ships LCVP LCP(L) No. 182, Shell hits 3, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Bombay at 18,11 Japanese Ships CL Abukuma CL Kuma DD Hatsuharu DD Nenohi Allied Ships AK Orestes, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Bombay at 18,11 Japanese Ships CL Abukuma CL Kuma DD Hatsuharu DD Nenohi Allied Ships AP Cape Sable, Shell hits 35, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Bombay at 18,11 Japanese Ships CL Abukuma CL Kuma, Shell hits 1 DD Hatsuharu, Shell hits 1 DD Nenohi, Shell hits 3 Allied Ships PG Georges Averoff, Shell hits 32, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Karachi, at 21,3 Allied aircraft no flights Allied aircraft losses Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed Japanese Ships CL Kiso CL Tama Allied Ships ML Teviotbank, Shell hits 1 AO Pleiodon, Shell hits 3, on fire TK Empire Druid, Shell hits 1 AO Appleleaf, Shell hits 1, on fire Allied ground losses: 159 casualties reported Guns lost 1 Runway hits 2 Port hits 2 Then he sent his zeros to sweep over the skies of the Indian city... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Karachi , at 21,3 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 74 Allied aircraft Buffalo I x 7 Hurricane IIb x 22 P-40B Tomahawk x 6 P-40E Warhawk x 1 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 9 destroyed, 3 damaged Allied aircraft losses Buffalo I: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged Hurricane IIb: 11 destroyed P-40B Tomahawk: 5 destroyed P-40E Warhawk: 1 damaged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Bombay , at 18,11 While, as predicted, at Bombay he tried to find my fighters...but none of them was there[:D] Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 67 Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 58 Ki-21-II Sally x 38 Ki-49 Helen x 41 Allied aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses Ki-21-II Sally: 6 damaged Ki-49 Helen: 5 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed Buffalo I: 1 destroyed P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed Allied ground losses: 24 casualties reported Airbase hits 4 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 18 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Kwajalein , at 81,84 Have to keep my bombers down tomorrow...their morale is already very low and only few of them took off[:@] Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft PB2Y Coronado x 2 B-17E Fortress x 14 Japanese aircraft losses No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses PB2Y Coronado: 1 damaged B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 18,5 Yes, i know...i'm an idiot...[:(] Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 194 Allied aircraft Wirraway x 5 Buffalo I x 13 Hurricane IIb x 36 P-40B Tomahawk x 10 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 19 destroyed, 11 damaged Allied aircraft losses Wirraway: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged Buffalo I: 12 destroyed Hurricane IIb: 32 destroyed P-40B Tomahawk: 10 destroyed Japanese Ships CV Kaga Aircraft Attacking: 3 x Wirraway bombing at 2000 feet -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 18,5 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 175 Allied aircraft Wirraway x 3 Buffalo I x 6 Hurricane IIb x 18 P-40B Tomahawk x 6 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 13 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses Wirraway: 3 destroyed Buffalo I: 5 destroyed Hurricane IIb: 18 destroyed P-40B Tomahawk: 6 destroyed Japanese Ships CVL Zuiho -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Karachi at 21,3 His Vals and kates paid an heavy price nonetheless...[;)] Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val x 24 Allied aircraft Buffalo I x 2 Hurricane IIb x 5 P-39D Airacobra x 3 P-40B Tomahawk x 1 P-40E Warhawk x 1 Japanese aircraft losses D3A2 Val: 8 destroyed, 8 damaged Allied Ships AK Empire Waterhen, Bomb hits 2, on fire AK Peisander, Bomb hits 3, on fire AK Borgfred, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Karachi at 21,3 Japanese aircraft D3A2 Val x 25 Allied aircraft Buffalo I x 2 Hurricane IIb x 5 P-39D Airacobra x 3 P-40B Tomahawk x 1 P-40E Warhawk x 1 Japanese aircraft losses D3A2 Val: 5 destroyed, 4 damaged Allied aircraft losses Hurricane IIb: 1 damaged Allied Ships TK Empire Diplomat, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage TK Empire Unity, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage TK Harpa, Bomb hits 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Karachi at 21,3 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 17 B5N2 Kate x 8 Allied aircraft Buffalo I x 2 Hurricane IIb x 5 P-39D Airacobra x 3 P-40B Tomahawk x 1 P-40E Warhawk x 1 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses Hurricane IIb: 1 destroyed Allied Ships AK Needwood AK Matua -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Karachi at 21,3 Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 24 Allied aircraft Buffalo I x 2 Hurricane IIb x 4 P-39D Airacobra x 3 P-40B Tomahawk x 1 P-40E Warhawk x 1 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged Allied Ships AP Aorangi AP Mount Vernon, Torpedo hits 1, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Karachi at 21,3 Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 25 Allied aircraft Buffalo I x 2 Hurricane IIb x 4 P-39D Airacobra x 3 P-40B Tomahawk x 1 P-40E Warhawk x 1 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged Allied Ships AP Empire Tamar AP Empire Trooper, Torpedo hits 1 AP Cap St. Jacques, Torpedo hits 1, on fire AP Rajula -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Karachi at 21,3 Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 11 Allied aircraft Buffalo I x 2 Hurricane IIb x 4 P-39D Airacobra x 3 P-40B Tomahawk x 1 P-40E Warhawk x 1 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged Allied Ships AK Dardanus, Torpedo hits 1, on fire AK Ulysses, Torpedo hits 1, on fire -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 87 encounters mine field at Bombay (18,11) TF 87 troops unloading over beach at Bombay, 18,11 The suicide TF....[:@] Japanese Ships MSW W.16 MSW W.15 MSW W.9 MSW W.8 MSW W.7 MSW W.6 MSW W.4 MSW W.3 MSW W.2 PG Iwate PG Idzumo AK Unkai Maru #6, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Japanese ground losses: 24 casualties reported Coastal Guns at Bombay, 18,11, firing at TF 87 427 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Japanese Ships AK Shirogane Maru PG Iwate, Shell hits 24 AK Ryuto Maru, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage AK Kosei Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage AK Akashi Maru, Shell hits 3 Japanese ground losses: 86 casualties reported [image]local://upfiles/4162/DEB9BBB136DC468BA7976D5C1B416DC0.jpg[/image]

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