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Gen.Hoepner -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/9/2008 4:42:38 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/05/42 At Bombay now are based 100 fighters (surely zeros) and 300 bombers, plus a great numbers of aux, surely mavis/emilies.... Soon he won't need the KB around there anymore!... For the rest a very quiet turn in India. I just bombed with my bombers from Karachi his lonely scouting para unit that is advancing alone towards Malir...to see what i have there i bet! In the PI my B-25s decided it was time to perform an offensive mission. He's moving lots of convoys with troops from Formosa to Bataan Island...we launched 3 strikes. nearly 50 oscars came attacking our bombers. lost 2 of them in the process but managed to hit two AKs full of troops. In the Marshalls we keep on training our BBs against Kwalajein,while men, supplies and planes are flowing to the newly copnquered bases from all over the map. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Kwajalein, at 81,84 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 6 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships BB Mississippi BB New Mexico BB Tennessee BB California BB Arizona BB Oklahoma BB West Virginia, Shell hits 2 Japanese ground losses: 3767 casualties reported Guns lost 61 Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 31 Port hits 3 Port fuel hits 2 Port supply hits 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on 2nd Parachute Regiment, at 23,5 2 hexes south of Malir... Allied aircraft Lysander I x 3 CW-22 Falcon x 2 Blenheim I x 16 Blenheim IV x 36 Martin 139 x 6 Hudson I x 6 P-40E Warhawk x 10 A-20B Boston x 23 B-25C Mitchell x 6 B-17E Fortress x 7 Allied aircraft losses Blenheim I: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 165 casualties reported Guns lost 2 an easy training mission... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Batan Islands at 46,47 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 42 Allied aircraft B-25C Mitchell x 9 B-26B Marauder x 3 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 5 damaged Allied aircraft losses B-25C Mitchell: 3 damaged B-26B Marauder: 1 damaged Japanese Ships AK Tsukikawa Maru AK Tangshan Maru AK Shinju Maru AK Nissen Maru #3, Bomb hits 2, on fire[;)] Japanese ground losses: 53 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Batan Islands at 46,47 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 30 Allied aircraft B-25C Mitchell x 21 B-26B Marauder x 3 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses B-25C Mitchell: 4 damaged B-26B Marauder: 2 damaged Japanese Ships PC Ch 25 AK Eiwa Maru AK Malacca Maru AK Kunitama Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire[;)] AK Shohei Maru AK Sakae Maru Japanese ground losses: 31 casualties reported

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/9/2008 4:49:02 PM)
I will maybe build up a sub base in the Aleutinas, but won't bomb anything,nor perform any offensive mission untill he breaks up and attack me. However i'm fortifying a bit my bases and prepping some defences up there. No guys, i'll try to play as fair as i can, not on the edge of our HRs. However i already have Wake and Jaluit as offensive sub bases in Centpac, so i really do not need anymore sub bases up there...not now at least. I'm already building up Darwin for the purpose of conducing, in mid-late 42, an offensive campaign in southern DEI...or at least to be ready to do it if a chance arises. I still need some good recon before saying what he really has there...surely he has very little air force there. In the Pacific he has already fortified Iwo Jiima but nothing at the Mariannas...and i bet most of his AP/AKs are in India or northern DEI at the moment...

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/9/2008 4:58:56 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/06/42 So, finally he decided to do something in the PI! It seems that he wants to land some ground units there...i bet a base force and some SNLF in order to clear Manila air force... at the same time he sent a strong bombing force, escorted by a zero Daitai against Manila AF...my P-40s did a good job, exchanging enough blows with the dreaded zeros, while the AA and the strong fortifications did the rest, defending Manila well! Then my bombers retalieted and attack the upcoming enemy convoys...several bomb hit hard the enemy ships and despite i won't stop him from landing, i've caused him some good headhaces![;)] SS Sealion dares to enter in Tokyo harbour and torpedoed a ship[:D] a good turn indeed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1135 encounters mine field at Truk (66,78) Allied Ships SS Pollack, Mine hits 1, on fire Ouch....[:@] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 20 G3M Nell x 78 G4M1 Betty x 50 Allied aircraft P-40B Tomahawk x 26 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed G3M Nell: 2 destroyed, 29 damaged G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-40B Tomahawk: 2 destroyed, 10 damaged Allied ground losses: 5 casualties reported Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 2 Good boys! Well done guys![8D] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 45,48 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 10 Allied aircraft B-25C Mitchell x 23 B-26B Marauder x 6 B-17D Fortress x 4 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 3 damaged Allied aircraft losses B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged B-17D Fortress: 1 damaged Japanese Ships AK Meiko Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire AK Shingo Maru AK Yubari Maru AK Hankow Maru, Bomb hits 1 AK Tasmania Maru PG Akitsu Maru, Bomb hits 1 AK Ryotoku Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire Japanese ground losses: 95 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 45,48 Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 10 Allied aircraft B-25C Mitchell x 3 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged Japanese Ships AK Junjo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire Japanese ground losses: 11 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack near Tokyo at 66,43 Japanese Ships AK Peking Maru, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Sealion[8D] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Lahore Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 2840 troops, 0 guns, 78 vehicles, Assault Value = 79 Defending force 1048 troops, 15 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 8 Japanese max assault: 146 - adjusted assault: 134 Allied max defense: 2 - adjusted defense: 2 Japanese assault odds: 67 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Lahore base !!![:@][:(] Japanese ground losses: 33 casualties reported Vehicles lost 1 Allied ground losses: 147 casualties reported Guns lost 5 Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Fishbed -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/9/2008 5:50:05 PM)
To me you wouldn't play on the edge of your HRs - the HRs are already playing on the edge of sanity... [:o] Btw don't care about SEAC. The quickest way to the Home Islands isn't passing through there. You may still use the forces due in that theater if you transfer them to SOPAC and start to get on his nerves down there.

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/9/2008 6:16:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Fishbed To me you wouldn't play on the edge of your HRs - the HRs are already playing on the edge of sanity... [:o] Btw don't care about SEAC. The quickest way to the Home Islands isn't passing through there. You may still use the forces due in that theater if you transfer them to SOPAC and start to get on his nerves down there. Yes, i'll have to concentrate in the Pacific right now, and possibly in souther DEI. He cannot reinforce everywhere with tons of Divisions... For sure we'll soon see some air battles in the skies of Truk/Eniwetok. I'm really looking forward to be able to have the Liberators...75x month!!!...salivating[:D]...compared to the 15 B-17Es and 1 B-17Ds i get right now monthly i'll be really able to keep him busy, even with Tonies/Tojos arriving on the line... However, now i need to focus on defending well what i've gained with RETRIBUTION. I do not feel too confortable yet...wanna be sure he won't arrive and smash everything up .... I'm also thinking about the McHartur's route...from PM to North Guinea...could be another option to be considered...

Fishbed -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/9/2008 6:53:43 PM)
We also need to pimp your subs GH. We need to get them into an intensive Speedy (c)-like training program. The HRs are so hard you absolutely need to use everything possibly efficient in the Allies' arsenal, don't you think so? 2 or 3 succesful sub attacks everyday may start to divert a lot of ressources on the Japanese side...

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/9/2008 7:09:18 PM)
Oh yes my friend. I'm trying and i think i'm learning a way to do that...in fact the attacks are becoming the more and more efficient every day....the sub war needs some more understanding still from me, but i'm learning fast!

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/9/2008 8:47:10 PM)
As foreseen, he landed 5 units at Luzon, clearly he wants to clear the skies over Manila in order to free again his supply routes to the HI...well..60 zeros there...i have very few hopes of holding my ground with only barely 30 active fighters...anyway we did a good job yesterday: 3 zeros and 6 nells downed in A2A combat![;)] against only 2 P-40s lost If/when my fighters will be swept away, i'll move my air force back to China...where maybe those guys can be usefull again! [image]local://upfiles/4162/D3AC163702F244CFBC09D57448E04CCF.jpg[/image]

Yakface -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/9/2008 9:01:58 PM)
If it really is just snlf's and base forces - kick him back into the sea. Your men may be bad, but you've got a lot of them.

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/9/2008 9:12:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Yakface If it really is just snlf's and base forces - kick him back into the sea.� Your men may be bad, but you've got a lot of them. He knows that trick. He told me he has done the same, playing as allied, against another player...so he can bomb to hell my advancing units and at the same time land at San Fernando or somewhere else and cut me off from Manila...i'd really prefer to stay there and keep diggin in( forts level almost 8 at Manila and Clark), saving precious supplies for the final stand when he will decide to come back [image]local://upfiles/4162/D9B991271B18492BAB79B9EF3349B3CC.jpg[/image]

Yakface -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/9/2008 9:17:19 PM)
Well - if he's going to sit where he is then I agree, ignore him, but if he comes forward to your rail network with just that lot, 1 retreat will allow you to pursue and expel him with just a token force. Bombers can't cover for such an inadequate force.

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/9/2008 9:18:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Yakface Well - if he's going to sit where he is then I agree, ignore him, but if he comes forward to your rail network with just that lot, 1 retreat will allow you to pursue and expel him with just a token force.� Bombers can't cover for such an inadequate force. Yes, we'll see. I however have sent 2 units to San Fernando...just in case... Look at the screenshot that follows....680 bombers at Bombay!!!!![X(][X(][X(][X(][X(] [image]local://upfiles/4162/0C08C3774D0F4FEFAA4EC39CE4642797.jpg[/image]

Fishbed -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/9/2008 9:24:21 PM)
Hum At least does your adversary know that Aden is off-limit for him?

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/9/2008 9:26:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Fishbed Hum At least does your adversary know that Aden is off-limit for him? He told me he won't attack Aden nor Panama...so yes, Aden is safe. Oh God, how much i'd like to save Karachi...would be simply awesome to finally stop the Japs...i'm looking forward to see the odds of the first assault...

FeurerKrieg -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/9/2008 9:42:06 PM)
If you aren't going for manilla, any chance of gathering about 20-30 subs and taking some small US troops into Manilla to beef the place up a bit? Level 9 with urban will be a tough nut to crack, every 10 AS you can add, means he has to bring like 100 AS more.

Elladan -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/9/2008 10:02:57 PM)
He must have some nasty overstacking penalties at Bombay. How nice it would be to nuke this place with some BBs :) Not possible at the moment unfortunately.

castor troy -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/9/2008 10:58:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Elladan He must have some nasty overstacking penalties at Bombay. How nice it would be to nuke this place with some BBs :) Not possible at the moment unfortunately. he should break his fingers when using the keyboard for all his statements about how penalized the Japanese are in the game and just what a great player he is... [8\|][sm=vomit-smiley-020.gif] and then he puts something like 600-900 aircraft on an airfield where a max of 250 would fit... a hundred absurd Japanese biased house rules... he�s the best WITP player in the universe... all Allied players are a$$holes... and then he puts 500 more aircraft at a place that can be stationed there... he should have his fingers broken.... [sm=00000003.gif] sorry General!

Elladan -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/10/2008 11:21:23 AM)
Well, Trollelite definitely has some problems with himself. On the other hand, with HRs so stacked against the Allies so sweeter the victory will be :) And you have, General, quite a nice staff gathered here, that would take great joy seeing a certain arrogant ass kicked royally I'm sure :) So for Victory!

whippleofd -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/10/2008 11:35:04 AM)
quote: he should break his fingers when using the keyboard for all his statements about how penalized the Japanese are in the game and just what a great player he is... [8\|][sm=vomit-smiley-020.gif] and then he puts something like 600-900 aircraft on an airfield where a max of 250 would fit... a hundred absurd Japanese biased house rules... he�s the best WITP player in the universe... all Allied players are a$$holes... and then he puts 500 more aircraft at a place that can be stationed there... he should have his fingers broken.... [sm=00000003.gif] Agreed. I don't PBEM but I know enough about it to make two observations: 1) His HR's are FUBAR. 2) Once you start giveing him the ol' BOHICA there's not a chance he will show the sportmanship and class you have. BTW, this is an outstanding AAR and I have enjoyed reading it immensely. Whipple

Jim D Burns -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/10/2008 12:33:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner saving precious supplies for the final stand when he will decide to come back Make sure you're marching your Command HQ back and forth between Manila and Bataan continuously. That way it will pull the supplies in from the outlying bases and keep it in allied hands longer. Once you've got 25k+ at the three bases (Manila, Bataan and Clark) marching back and forth won't help anymore I'm afraid, but get as much supply in now as you can. Jim

Fishbed -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/10/2008 12:39:39 PM)
No way you may organise a massive strike from Karachi against Bombay GH?

Elladan -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/10/2008 12:55:45 PM)
I don't think it will do much with all those Zeros certainly on CAP. What might help would be to base some 4Es at Aden and stage them for raid attack from Karachi when situation allows. Then return to Aden next turn. Of course you would need a working airfield which may prove to be a problem soon.

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/10/2008 1:09:27 PM)
I'm a bit late with the reports. I'll try to summerize the last 3 turns which have not been that interesting however... BTW thanks guys for all your support! Fishbed, no i cannot do anything from Karachi...will explain later why So let's start: LUZON: As i said before he's well aware of the Trick..he has laready landed at Luzon 17000 men for 12 units, 90 fighters (most of which are zeros) and 90 more recon and float planes...he wants clearly to start to reduce Manila's ability to hurt his routes... Jim: i've already stockpilled all the supplies at Clark and Manila, but the main force, with the HQs remains at Manila where i have 26k supplies and nearly 8 forts...soon Manila will be closed, both the sub-port and the Airfield... CHINA: He's advancing towards Changsha but not that fast...i'll probably manage to mass there 2000 AVs before he arrives. However the skies are full of his bombers that are hitting everything i have in China (bases, supplies, troops...). Will be a pain... INDIA: He's buiilding very fast Aldemabad and Jaluit. I bet in one week they'll both be level 4 AF. Anyway the AirBalls say that i'm already toasted...i cannot reach Bombay with my fighters from Karachi Fishbed and with no escorts my light british bombers will be simply chewed! He's now advancing with BBs and CVs from Bombay toKarachi...probably we'll see a combined strike with BBs, bombers from Bombay, Jaluit and Ahdemabad and a KB strike...Karachi is simply doomed! with 180 fighters there plus 200 bombers the air-ball says -300!!!!!!!!! [:o] PACIFIC: i've been very unlucky...for 3 days in a row 3 of my subs hit mines at Truk and one more got sunk by Vals in those damned waters...[:@]...for the rest we're sending back most of the transports from the Marshalls to PH and Panama. Will have to bring there more troops, more supplies and more of everything! We've also started the air-training program against Kwalajein. Eniwetok is now pretty well defended! Recon says he has 190 fighters at Truk now and some 200 bombers...but he still doesn't dare to send his betties against my ships at Eniwetok AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/07/42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1019 encounters mine field at Truk (66,78) Allied Ships SS Grampus, Mine hits 1, on fire[:@] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 46,48 My bombers from Manila try to interdict his landing at Luzon...with 15 losses i cannot say that this day was the best one for the Manila Air Force..[:o] Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 25 Allied aircraft B-25C Mitchell x 3 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses B-25C Mitchell: 3 damaged Japanese Ships AK Jinbu Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 45,48 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 25 Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 5 Allied aircraft B-26B Marauder x 3 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses B-26B Marauder: 3 damaged Japanese Ships AK Kokuyo Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 45,48 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 25 Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 5 Allied aircraft B-25C Mitchell x 15 B-26B Marauder x 6 B-17D Fortress x 3 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 6 damaged Allied aircraft losses B-25C Mitchell: 4 destroyed, 7 damaged B-26B Marauder: 1 damaged Japanese Ships AK Seisho Maru, Bomb hits 1 AK Shinsho Maru AK Yamabato Maru AP Toko Maru AK Glasgow Maru AK Naples Maru Japanese ground losses: 41 casualties reported -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 45,48 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 25 Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 5 Allied aircraft B-25C Mitchell x 3 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Japanese Ships AK Hankow Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 45,48 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 25 Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 5 Allied aircraft B-17D Fortress x 3 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses B-17D Fortress: 1 damaged Japanese Ships AK Meisan Maru -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF at 46,48 Allied aircraft B-25C Mitchell x 3 No Allied losses Japanese Ships AK Nissen Maru #3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on TF, near Laoag at 45,48 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 17 Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 51 Allied aircraft B-25C Mitchell x 6 B-26B Marauder x 3 B-17D Fortress x 3 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 2 damaged Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 11 damaged Allied aircraft losses B-25C Mitchell: 5 destroyed B-26B Marauder: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged B-17D Fortress: 3 damaged Japanese Ships AP Toko Maru AK Kehi Maru AK Seisho Maru AK Naples Maru AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/08/42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Naval bombardment of Kwajalein, at 81,84 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! 40 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships BB Mississippi, Shell hits 10 BB New Mexico, Shell hits 4 BB Tennessee BB California BB Arizona, Shell hits 1 BB Oklahoma BB West Virginia Japanese ground losses: 1701 casualties reported Guns lost 32 Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 14 Port hits 1 Port supply hits 2 With these missions my BBs really got some nice experience at night![;)] And Kwajalein remain suppressed! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 52,97 Japanese Ships SS I-168 Allied Ships AS Holland, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage This AS was transfering to Darwin in order to start the sub campaign from there...i doubt it will make it through...[:o] AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/09/42 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TF 1003 encounters mine field at Truk (66,78) Allied Ships SS S-18, Mine hits 1, on fire[:@] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Rawalpindi Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 2800 troops, 0 guns, 76 vehicles, Assault Value = 77 Defending force 40 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5 Japanese max assault: 144 - adjusted assault: 146 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 146 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese forces CAPTURE Rawalpindi base !!! Allied ground losses: 14 casualties reported Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Ok, now his conquest of India is almost completed...[:o] As always when i'll got back home i'll make some screenshots... With the BBs advancing towards Karachi i really need a miracle to keep the base active and operative...my subs are there, hoping for a lucky shot...but i do not have that many hopes... In Luzon his intent isn't to crush me. not now. He simply wants to close my AF and my Port and force me to bring away my planes and my subs...

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/10/2008 1:12:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Elladan I don't think it will do much with all those Zeros certainly on CAP. What might help would be to base some 4Es at Aden and stage them for raid attack from Karachi when situation allows. Then return to Aden next turn. Of course you would need a working airfield which may prove to be a problem soon. Forget it. I have only 12 B-17s at Karachi. Nothing more. and, as you said, my AFs in India (Malir and Karachi) will be operative only for the next few hours...then it will all dead. I'll try to hurt the KB...in one last shot...then i'll move everything that can be moved to Aden (So to say the Blenheims ) and leave Karachi to its destiny...

Elladan -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/10/2008 1:23:09 PM)
I meant in the future. You will have more B-17s and B-24s and there might be an occasional thunderstorm season allowing you to repair enough damage. If such situation arises a surprise raid on overstacked base may catch him off-guard and destroy lots of planes. Not to say about amount of irritation it would cause for your opponent - priceless ;) Of course Karachi must first withstand his assaults for that long. But I bet you will be positively surprised with this fortress.

Fishbed -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/10/2008 1:31:40 PM)
Well I dunno - the moment KB leaves, CAP will be assured by Karachi land-based air forces. How many of those 80+ fighters are expected to actually take off from a size 5 airfield with nearly a thousand planes on it? Does anyone know how to calculate that

Elladan -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/10/2008 2:18:47 PM)
I would say a quarter of the total amount. Just as a rule of thumb.

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/10/2008 2:42:27 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 03/10/42 It doesn't have to took off from Bombay! He has Ademadabad and Jaipur which are closer...and today we had the proove of it! 25 P-40s lost over Karachi and Manila in A2A combats, against only 6 Oscars...[:o] My planes were flown by my best experienced crews...65 exp of average...no match for the zeros! He started to sweep Karachi in the morning. I had moved all my planes to Malir but a bunch of my pilots decided however to defend the Indian Capital, probably because they have their bitches there and they decided to not follow my orders and got clobbered by the zeros...[:@] At the same time the KB is advancing with the BBs...tomorrow the weather is forecasted as stormy...so i kept my planes at Malir...simply no reasons to stay at Karachi to die from NUKE-BBs while they cannot fly back because of the clouds... Then in the afternoon 70 fighters sweept manila. Again bad results...the days of Manila are gone. Evacuation is ordered towards China...without my fighter force i cannot keep my bombers there...he has brought 17 units at Luzon!!! He wants clearly to build up bases for his bombers to start reducing Manila base...oh well, sooner or later this would have happened... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 15,1 this ship was going back to Aden from Karachi...no way to defend those waters from his sub groups...[:@] Japanese Ships SS I-153 Allied Ships AP Kanimbla, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Karachi , at 21,3 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 41 Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 30 Ki-46-II Dinah x 2 Allied aircraft P-40B Tomahawk x 3 P-40E Warhawk x 7 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged Ki-46-II Dinah: 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-40B Tomahawk: 2 destroyed P-40E Warhawk: 11 destroyed[:@][:@][:@][:@][:@] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52 Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 21 Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 30 Allied aircraft P-40B Tomahawk x 22 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses P-40B Tomahawk: 11 destroyed[:o][:o][:(] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sub attack at 22,46 Malacca straight Japanese Ships AK Kaisho Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage PG Kamitsu Maru Allied Ships SS Thresher The only good news of the day[:o] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Aparri para-drop[>:] Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 1624 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 45 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Japanese max assault: 42 - adjusted assault: 23 Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1 Japanese assault odds: 23 to 1 (fort level 0) Japanese forces CAPTURE Aparri base !!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Kiukiang we moved a unit to Kiukiang from Nanchang...he has 2 full divisions there!!! [:@][:o][:-] Allied Shock attack Attacking force 1141 troops, 7 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 36 Defending force 73625 troops, 413 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1197 Allied max assault: 22 - adjusted assault: 0 Japanese max defense: 1199 - adjusted defense: 10294 Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3) Allied ground losses: 278 casualties reported Guns lost 5 [image]local://upfiles/4162/809C4E0EAF27408884A5690477895D5B.jpg[/image]

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/10/2008 2:43:00 PM)
LUZON [image]local://upfiles/4162/CBBE2AF3D7AD43C88A60E213938A3FC6.jpg[/image]

Gen.Hoepner -> RE: Karachi in ruins... (1/10/2008 2:52:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Fishbed Well I dunno - the moment KB leaves, CAP will be assured by Karachi land-based air forces. He can master, even without KB, hundreds of fighters and bombers. Litterally. I only have P-40s and Hurricanes there, whose pools are already empty. I produce 40 of each model per month. Simpy not enough. He can produce easily 400 zeros/oscars per month and the zeros are superior to my frames. The Air-Battle of Karachi is already lost. I just have to keep on living for the longer possible...every day i survive is a day gained, but do not expect any victory

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