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BULLDOGINTHEUK -> European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/1/2008 9:05:46 PM)

******* THIS GAME IS NOW FULL AND NO LONGER RECRUITING **************

I am looking to play the European Diplomacy Game but as I've never played AT at PBM against another human I will probably suck but will have fun trying. I have had the game only 3 days and the AI is beating me on AI+ against 5 AI's. I did okay against 4 AI (easy level). Keep making silly mistakes when transferring troops to wrong units, running out of supplies and am very much still learning this massive game.

I am therefore looking for 8 other likeminded people to play the massive diplomacy game. It looks a great tense map from the AAR's posted. Allies can help each other if they are stuck. Players must have the most recent update v1.10 and be prepared to play 1 turn per day (one or two days off now and again not a problem but we just want to keep the game going) and not drop out. And of course you must have an E-Mail address.

So if you would like to join me the list below is the countries left. Take your pick to get the best countries first [:D]

Germany - Bulldogintheuk
Italy - Nim8or
Balkans - T_K
France - Haudrauf1962
Britain - Delyn Locksmiths
Russia - Slowhand
Turkey - Therockyfroggy
Spain - All5n
Scandinavia - GrumpyMel

These are also the players in turn order so Germany goes first, then Italy, then Balkans, you get the idea. Therefore Germany sends their file to Italy, Italy then sends their turn E-Mail to the Balkans player. Each player has their turn saves and quits, then sending their turn as an attachment. Let me know if your not sure how the you go - I go system works. Action cards are on. All countries start at War and can make peace with any other nation if that nation accepts. Feel free to PM other players to gain Alliances, form strategies and backstab if they want [sm=00000036.gif]

Also you don't have to but some of you may wish to post any post turn moves screenshots on the AAR section. Just a thought as an incentive for other people to buy this game. This would be good if you are doing well but probably not so good if you are doing badly, as I noticed France has not posted any screenies on the current game going. I chose Germany and therefore may not last long with so many enemys at my door. Suppose I had better make some friends [:(]

I look forward to hearing from any noobs interested [8D]

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Delyn Locksmiths -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/1/2008 9:20:20 PM)

Can I take Britain?



BULLDOGINTHEUK -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/1/2008 9:27:37 PM)

That was quick, literally just put this post up! Thanks for the quick reply Delyn, I have amended Britain to include you. Welcome to the game. Should be a laugh [:)]



Delyn Locksmiths -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/1/2008 9:45:11 PM)

I'm sure it will be great fun, that's the very best thing about AT in my opinion, large multiplayer games, with all the off board diplomacy that goes with it. Never played one yet, but really really looking forward.



GrumpyMel -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/1/2008 9:45:25 PM)

I wouldn't mind giving Scandinavia a try. I haven't upgraded to v1.10 yet.... but I don't think that should be a problem by the time we start.



Mel



BULLDOGINTHEUK -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/1/2008 10:00:21 PM)

I've just added you Mel, welcome. Make sure you have that 1.10 patch (not to be confused with the 1.02b patch that came out before Xmas. Its currently quite a lot of clicking at the moment to find the correct one on the Matrix site.



Delyn Locksmiths -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/1/2008 10:59:55 PM)

I thought you were spain bulldog?
I've just had a quick look at the scenario. what options are we going to pick? 2 round breather? allow action cards? allow make peace? extended production?



BULLDOGINTHEUK -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/1/2008 11:10:34 PM)

Yeah, I just realised that I had to be Germany as I have to set up the game paramaters and thus must be the first player. No doubt to my regret! Germany would have been better for someone with more experience than me as having looked at the AARs Germany, France and the Baltics are the hardest to play as they are next to lots of players.  Never mind, I like a challenge [X(] I have tried all the settings and it seems that the best options are no unit density (there is just massive production at Capital which can make 300 rifles per go, bit too much I think, we would get all the research areas in just a few goes), yes to action cards (so people can make peace), yes to all at war at start (as we could have a long number of turns where nobody attacks anyone), yes to allow make peace. Hope these settings are okay. If anyone has played this before let me know if they know better.



GrumpyMel -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/1/2008 11:14:58 PM)

I wouldn't mind starting with the 2 round breather option. That would give people a chance to setup some defence before things get crazy. As it is, it looks like some nations can get plowed before they even have a chance to move. However, I'm ok with anything really.... just looks like a fun scenerio.



Delyn Locksmiths -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/1/2008 11:17:21 PM)

I think the breather option would make it fairer too, give more precariously placed states the chance to forge alliances and give everyone a chance to even out production. but as has been said, anythings ok with me really, looks a lot of fun.



Woodruff -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/2/2008 9:57:56 AM)

I'd be willing to take Russia or Turkey (either one), and I agree about the 2-round breather...that's a good idea.



MrLongleg -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/2/2008 1:05:00 PM)

Thanks for setting this up - I ws thinking about it myself. I tae Spain, France, Italy or Turkey.



BULLDOGINTHEUK -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/2/2008 3:18:55 PM)

I've amended 'Russia' to Woodruff and 'France' to Haudfauf1962. Only 4 places left!

I did think about the 2 turn breather. If you try this option however all nations start out at peace and you have to manually declare war after turn 2. I have tried this out, not actuall played a game but just see what this means. I belive with all nations at peace each would be too frightened to declare war upon one another. Also it would mean a lot of turns where nothing happens. With 9 players it is likely that each country only has a turn per week. If you think about it you get work, have your turn, the next player may not take their turn until the next day. Players 7-9 probably won't get their turn until a few days after the game starts. This game is going to take a lot of time to play me thinks. After each turn when you receive the file you should reply just to confirm receipt as the player sending the turn doesn't know that you have received it. Also, if you know you are going to be on holiday or unable to take your turn it maybe a good idea to let an Ally have your go for you in order not to hold up the game.

I am open to any suggestions about changing the rules. Before you make a rash decision however please test the scenario out for yourself just for a few turns just to get the feel of the action cards and units.

Thanks again everyone and happy New Year [;)]



T_K -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/2/2008 5:32:05 PM)

I have to read the rules for this mode but count me in as Balkans.



Delyn Locksmiths -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/2/2008 6:25:46 PM)

Your call bulldog. And it all sounds good to me.



IRONCROM -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/2/2008 7:00:23 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BULLDOGINTHEUK

I've amended 'Russia' to Woodruff and 'France' to Haudfauf1962. Only 4 places left!

I did think about the 2 turn breather. If you try this option however all nations start out at peace and you have to manually declare war after turn 2. I have tried this out, not actuall played a game but just see what this means. I belive with all nations at peace each would be too frightened to declare war upon one another. Also it would mean a lot of turns where nothing happens. With 9 players it is likely that each country only has a turn per week. If you think about it you get work, have your turn, the next player may not take their turn until the next day. Players 7-9 probably won't get their turn until a few days after the game starts. This game is going to take a lot of time to play me thinks. After each turn when you receive the file you should reply just to confirm receipt as the player sending the turn doesn't know that you have received it. Also, if you know you are going to be on holiday or unable to take your turn it maybe a good idea to let an Ally have your go for you in order not to hold up the game.

I am open to any suggestions about changing the rules. Before you make a rash decision however please test the scenario out for yourself just for a few turns just to get the feel of the action cards and units.

Thanks again everyone and happy New Year [;)]

Before we stopped ours for christmas break, we were completing a round about every 2 days.



therockyfroggy -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/2/2008 7:38:19 PM)

I'll take Turkey if that's still available...if not, anything.



BULLDOGINTHEUK -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/2/2008 9:10:55 PM)

Thanks for the tip Ironcrom, nice to hear from someone who is already playing the scenario. Turkey and Balkans now with therockyfroggy and T_K. Only Italy and Spain to go. Should be able to start a game tomorrow, at the latest Friday. Can people who already have slots and are going to play PM the player before them in the list with their E-Mail address so that they can send their turn once the game starts. You can start doing this now if you like. Thanks peeps.   



all5n -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/2/2008 9:31:37 PM)

If you still have a slot open im down.

Ive only played a couple pbem games of AT so I think i qualify. 




BULLDOGINTHEUK -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/2/2008 10:25:57 PM)

all5n, choose between Italy or Spain. Delete your E-Mail address as everyone can see it by editing your post. Before the game starts you want to be send a Private mail (PM) to the player before you. Welcome to the gang.



GrumpyMel -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/2/2008 11:16:06 PM)

I am assuming people would want to negotiaite with other players outside thier turn order as well. So I'm guessing it might not be bad to have everyones contact info..... although I'm guessing PM's here would work as well. How have you guys handled this sort of thing before?


                                                                                      Mel



Delyn Locksmiths -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/2/2008 11:21:18 PM)

I have just sent a diplomatic PM. But I have noticed there is no outbox on this forum, only a sent box. And my pm's don't appear in my sent box. Could you please PM me back if you have recieved my note - to let me know it arrived safely.



Delyn Locksmiths -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/2/2008 11:21:42 PM)

You know who you are [;)]



BULLDOGINTHEUK -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/2/2008 11:31:35 PM)

Nice to see the Diplomatic wrangling has begun lol [:D] Yes the PM on this forum is probably the best way to negotiate between players. Just remember what you said. I personally don't like the thought of lots of people knowing other peoples E-mail addresses, think its best kept to the minimum but obviously up to individuals. I have sent Scandinavia my address by PM so they can send their turn to me. Will also be using personal passwords when we start the game and the first one you type in will be the one for the whole game so make sure you write it down.



Delyn Locksmiths -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/2/2008 11:45:25 PM)

Are we going to write AAR's? If we do I think it would be good to collate them in one thread per player. Will we not read each others reports until after the game is finished? Or use them as a means of spreading black propoganda? [:D]



all5n -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/2/2008 11:54:01 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BULLDOGINTHEUK

Nice to see the Diplomatic wrangling has begun lol [:D] Yes the PM on this forum is probably the best way to negotiate between players. Just remember what you said. I personally don't like the thought of lots of people knowing other peoples E-mail addresses, think its best kept to the minimum but obviously up to individuals. I have sent Scandinavia my address by PM so they can send their turn to me. Will also be using personal passwords when we start the game and the first one you type in will be the one for the whole game so make sure you write it down.


The e-mail i listed is my "public spam account".

I would highly reccommend setting up a gmail or yahoo account just for gaming use. That way your private e-mail wont get cluttered.



all5n -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/3/2008 12:00:17 AM)

Spain works for me.



T_K -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/3/2008 1:55:56 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Delyn Locksmiths

Are we going to write AAR's? If we do I think it would be good to collate them in one thread per player. Will we not read each others reports until after the game is finished? Or use them as a means of spreading black propoganda? [:D]


I'm not going to have so much spare time to be able to write AARs...



mllange -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/3/2008 4:18:26 AM)

Let me know if you have any openings available...



SlowHand -> RE: European Diplomacy (for noobs) (1/3/2008 9:43:45 AM)

If there's still a spot, I'll take it.

I'm a total n00b to this scenario. My other PBEMs have been 2-player Ladder and Random scenarios.

As for Diplomacy, call me "Quisling"!



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