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Charles2222 -> RE: CIV IV is evil!!!!!! (2/19/2008 7:21:55 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Joram
I think mileage varies. I have almost never had a crash on late game huge epic maps. I don't begrudge your opinion because I've heard of similar issues on Apolyton but I think you're the exception to the rule that it's pretty stable.
I've enjoyed all the series actually. Each one brings something new and different. I do think the expansions are a bit of a rip because they have features that really should have been in there to begin with. And the spy bug in BTS was ridiculous. I too turn off some of the victory conditions as they just aren't fun but the nice thing is you have the ability for all those options!
Oh, inbetween the lines you will see that I'm saying it was stable, that is, if you count political/space race victories as worthy of your time; I do not. The original game did have frequent CTD's but somewhere around the first expansion this decreased considerably, but the hopelessness of my position with the game, is that not only do I know the last expansion did nothing for my problem, but also that so few people play deep enough into the game that they will experience what I did. IOW, they sort of have no reason to fix it, because the complaint level will never reach a high enough pitch. Without the game being long enough to where I can take at least 75% of the board, without CTD's, I have no further reason to play it. My only remaining hope would be to start in the industrial age, or elsewise to eliminate some inbetween ages, but I don't know if all those options are possible, however I do know I can select a beginning and ending age. Just throwing the idea in my head, playing in the industrial onwards sounds like it would take too much of the research out of the game and just make it pretty much a generic unit war. True, things do get more boring when you have researched virtually everything, and are therefore in a generic unit war, but at least the end fighting was ramped up to over the long course of the game.
Oh, I forgot something. Here is the HUGE problem with a guy like me, besides CTD's, with Civ4. The death rays from the sky. I think I edited it to strike very infrequently, so no problem there really, but the stock game is disasterous. Do you know what those things do. Think about it a minute. You can nuke a city a get some decent damage and cause fallout. Of course nukes and fallout cause the death rays. The Ai doesn't seem to clean these up so it gets unplayable after some time. Strangely enough, the death ray is worse than the nukes. The death ray will strike a tile and turn it into utter desert waste; completely destroying improvements. Oh, if you hadn't figured it out already, these death rays of which I speak are the Algore element to the game, the global warninh nonsense. Now think about the stupidity fo this. What has ever happened to the world due to the alleged global warming? Absolutely nothing; maybe a slight temperature variance if anything, but that's not what you get in the game. What's more, think there have been two nukes set off in history correct? There was radiation which over the years killed more people and it went away over more time I would imagine. No, not really. The last bit was correct, but not the first bit. There have not been two nukes, as used on Japan, there have literally been over TWO THOUSAND due to nuclear testing, and where is the blasted global warming for it as depicted in this game????????????????????????
Without tuning down the global warming, aka death ray, I was getting my territory nuked by death rays roughly four tiles a turn, and it keeps getting worse. I suppose they threw in such a ludicrous model in order to stop you from finding what a CTD nightmare a really long game would show you, though they bragged about being able to play games really long. With all your territory getting so heavily nuked, you will not be able to support your armies very long and literally your territory will go back to the Stone Age, without being able to build Stone Age units anymore. What a waste of time.
It seems like the late game of Civ3 was much better and didn't CTD on you.
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