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Bombur -> Version 0.99 ready (4/3/2009 11:54:00 PM)

v0.99 released with both AI and PBEM versions



explorer2 -> RE: Asking for suggestions (4/4/2009 5:01:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Bombur

However, we need recon aircraft. Currently, we canīt use carrier based aircraft due to engine constraints (we will spend all AP to make a recon mission). So I have two alternatives
1-Give cruisers and battleships a very high recon value to simulate embarked aicraft or
2-Place floatplanes on cruisers and battleships (but if you have BBīs and CAīs in the same fleet as carriers, we will have the same troubles with recon)
So, what alternative is better? Any idea?



I have the same issue in WaW Revised I'm working on. I though that by adding a special air scout plane, like the ones used by the Allies in WWII, I could solve the problem, BUT not so easy. 2 problems:
1. The game does not have separate recon due to distance modifiers for navy and air. Therefore if you say that the recon mod for 1 hex away is 50% for a naval unit, id does the same for ground units, which isn't acceptable.
2. Air units recon only applies to the one hex (plus distance modifiers- see #1) that it "targets"

So I found using air units for naval recon not to actually be nearly as effective as using naval units with higher recon values, since they can apply their recon to more than one hex as they move.
And since WaW is confined to WWII, it's an easy choice of what ship to give the recon to - Carriers, even though most BB and some CA did have float plane recon, it was standard fare for carriers.
Just my two cents worth.



Bombur -> RE: Asking for suggestions (4/8/2009 1:10:16 AM)

Yes, I gave high recon values for carriers, battlehips and cruisers too. However, the recon range is too short....



Bombur -> RE: Asking for suggestions (4/8/2009 1:12:10 AM)

v0.99 has an issue with missiles, which were rated as land, instead of air units...will be fixed as soon Lunaticus finishes with me in our playtest game....sigh



explorer2 -> RE: Asking for suggestions (4/8/2009 4:54:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Bombur

Yes, I gave high recon values for carriers, battlehips and cruisers too. However, the recon range is too short....


Do you know that there is a modifier for this? You can adjust the strength of the recon for up to 4 hexes around the unit. Problem is it's universal- it applies to ALL units: land, air, sea.
Currently I think the values are:
1 hex: 100%
2 hex: 25%
3 hex: 05%
4 hex: 01%

So a unit with 100 recon will generate 100 recon in the hexes adjacent to it and 1 pt of recon in hexes 4 away from it.

YOu probably knew that already.
Hope Vic changes this in next game.



Jeffrey H. -> RE: Asking for suggestions (4/9/2009 12:05:11 AM)

So it is possible for an air unit to have extended recon range, (more than 4 hexes) around the target hex only, but not possible for other units to have an extended range beyond 4 hexes from themselves ?

Given the scale of the games, I suppose that makes some sense, it really isn't a tactical squad level type game.




explorer2 -> RE: Asking for suggestions (4/9/2009 4:00:39 AM)

Not possible for ANY unit to have recon beyond 4 hexes, and not possible for air, sea, and land units' to have different Modifiers of what the percentage of recon will be applies to hexes 1 distant, 2 distant, 3 distant, and 4 distant. Each SFT can of course have its own number of recon points.



Bombur -> RE: Asking for suggestions (4/9/2009 11:17:26 PM)

Actually the big trouble for air units isnīt recon range itself but their inability to generate recon points in the path to target area. This is ok. for land recon but cripples naval aircraft search.



explorer2 -> RE: Asking for suggestions (4/10/2009 4:51:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Bombur

Actually the big trouble for air units isnīt recon range itself but their inability to generate recon points in the path to target area. This is ok. for land recon but cripples naval aircraft search.


I couldn't agree more. But it would also be nice if there could be separate recon modifiers for naval, air, and land units. Air would typically see the furthest, then naval, then land.



Bombur -> RE: Asking for suggestions (4/11/2009 4:35:28 PM)

A few changes will de done.
Missiles are working in v0.99, as they were, by mistake, rated as land (instead of air) units. Fixed.
Costs for motorized transports halved for next version.



Bombur -> RE: Asking for suggestions (4/21/2009 12:28:08 AM)

Playtest vs. Lunaticus shows that the tech tree is still far from perfect, as he was able to go to battle with an army with T-55īs and biplane fighters. It will need a major rework of all the tech tree to fix this....
Stack limits increased to 1000 (more or less 200.000 men/hex). Given this modīs scale, each hex has about 4800km2, so the 100 stack point limit is ridiculous.



Tufkal2 -> RE: Asking for suggestions (4/21/2009 1:03:22 AM)

As I said I very much like this mod. It recommend a scenario and a setting for this like the proposed European 1900-1960 scenario or so.
Also I think the tech tree is very nice. I like to specialize as a game setting but maybe historically not yet accurate.



Bombur -> RE: Asking for suggestions (4/21/2009 4:15:47 AM)


-Thank you, Lunaticus.
-The new tech tree will actually allow you some degree of specialization, but, as the cost of gates techs will increase dramatically as the game advances, while the cost of intermediate units was decreased across the board, the attempt to advance too much in a given area (like tanks, for instance) will result in a significant disadvantage in aircraft and ships. On the other hand, the interconnection between air/land/sea was almost eliminated, so you can give some priority to a group of units. I hope it will work. My first impression from playtesting is that this mod offers some advantage over stock as far as realism is of concern.



Bombur -> RE: Asking for suggestions (5/1/2009 5:24:39 PM)

Version v1.00 released. Hopefully it will be the definitive version

New features
1-A reworked tech tree for PBEM only files
2-Decreased costs for motorized transports and Zeppelins
3-Many bugs fixed
4-Support for multiple peopleīs scenarios. This mod will be necessary to play the upcoming Religion wars, but, maybe some changes will be needed for global domination.



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