Historiker -> RE: Very OT : Euro 2008 (6/11/2008 10:53:31 PM)
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Well, but you are. You can deny it as Bavarians deny sometimes to be Germans as well - but that doesn't change anything with the facts... The (german languaged) People of Denmark, the Netherlands, Luxemburg, Belgium, France, Switzerland, Austria, Italy, Slovenia, Poland, CZ and the FRG are all German tribes. A lost war and a policiy of "we were the first victim" doesn't change this (apart from the fact, that Austrians had a unporportional high percentage of war crimes and in members of the SS - and that the majority acclaimed the "Anschluß"). If you don't like it, then don't do this. You are free to deny that you are of German originin despite the fact that you are exactly that. To be of an origin doesn't forbid a "tribe" to start feeling as an own nation - as the Austrians started to do in the last 60 years (while they wanted to join Germany after WW1) and like the Durch do since centuries. To talk about a common origin and of a relatedness doesn't mean by any way, that the sovereignity of a nation isn't accepted. Of course, it's a common Austrian identiy not to be a German tribe, because of that, they can claim not to have any relationship with the horrible 3rd Reich - but as the first Chancellor of the Free FRG Konrad Adenauer said: "If the Austrians should ever claim reparations, we will send them the remains of Adolf Hitler" Do you think scandinavians would howl because of a "a hurray to the scandinavian national teams" by a swedish? Would this mean any revanchistic reclaiming of the old swedish territorys or any foolish like this? Why can't you just be pleased that a german wishes you luck as well, while your nation's always gleeful after every German loss (I knew that because I watched ORF 1 1996, 1998 and 2000. Prohaska i.e. said "sadly, I expect the germans will advance")?
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