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castor troy -> RE: it goes on... (5/19/2009 10:03:50 AM)
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/17/43
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TF 1068 encounters mine field at Port Moresby (53,91)
TF 1068 troops unloading over beach at Port Moresby, 53,91
Allied Ships
MSW Bungaree
MSW Revenge
MSW Wallaroo
MSW Wagga
MSW Strahan
MSW Rockhampton
MSW Inverell
MSW Gladstone
MSW Pirie
MSW Kalgoorlie
Coastal Guns at Port Moresby, 53,91, firing at TF 1068
80 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
MSW Bungaree, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
SC SC-708, Shell hits 1
AP West Point, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Henry T. Allen, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Zeilin, Shell hits 1, heavy damage
Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Allied ground losses:
580 casualties reported
3000 mines, nothing happens... is that bu**sh*t? [8|]
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TF 1068 encounters mine field at Port Moresby (53,91)
TF 1068 troops unloading over beach at Port Moresby, 53,91
Allied Ships
MSW Bungaree, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Revenge
MSW Wallaroo
MSW Wagga
MSW Strahan
MSW Rockhampton
MSW Inverell
MSW Gladstone
MSW Pirie
MSW Kalgoorlie
Coastal Guns at Port Moresby, 53,91, firing at TF 1068
18 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
AP Van Imhoff, Shell hits 1
SC SC-708, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SC SC-707, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
242 casualties reported
the subchasers donīt take much more than a 5.5 or 4.7 inch hit to sink...
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
J1N1-S Irving x 27
A6M3a Zero x 113
B5N Kate x 35
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 105
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 35
Ki-45 KAIb Nick x 35
Ki-49 Helen x 88
No Japanese losses
Allied ground losses:
30 casualties reported
Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 130
Port hits 6
Port supply hits 1
Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Luganville , at 72,107
Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 21
F4F-4 Wildcat x 18
SBD Dauntless x 42
TBF Avenger x 14
PBY Catalina x 5
Kittyhawk I x 12
P-36A Mohawk x 46
P-39D Airacobra x 49
F4U-1 Corsair x 8
No Allied losses
Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 82
Aircraft Attacking:
30 x P-36A Mohawk bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Wallis Island , at 93,107
Allied aircraft
Barracuda x 35
P-40B Tomahawk x 26
P-40N Warhawk x 7
Allied aircraft losses
Barracuda: 3 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
P-40N Warhawk: 2 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Runway hits 24
Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Barracuda bombing at 16600 feet
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Day Air attack on Chita , at 62,15
Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 20
Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 2 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 12
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 12000 feet
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Day Air attack on 3rd Division, at 13,21
Allied aircraft
Vengeance I x 13
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Vengeance I bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 144th IJN Base Force, at 53,91
Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 19
Liberator VI x 22
B-17E Fortress x 10
B-24D Liberator x 20
Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 2 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
157 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
ground attacks at extended range... must mean the enemy ground troops will attack today... I would have set all my 4E bombers on nav attack to engage KB though... with over 300 long range bombers that canīt be shot down by Cap or flak I would have kept them on nav attack to get a chance to hit the fragile Japanese carriers. Miller stated in his email that thereīs a huge discrepancy in Allied and Japanese losses in warships due to the fact that the Allied donīt have long range torpedo bombers like the Japanese Betty and Nell and therefor those losses are so onesided because as long as I stay further than 5 hexes away from his bases nothing could harm KB. Well, Iīm of total different oppinion on that case. Speaking from my experience as an Allied player (and from Japanese experience too of course), the Allied 4E (and to a high extend the Ventura in Nikmod too) are perfect ship killers and I usually achieve BETTER results with B-24 than with Betties against everything except BBs as I have yet to see a 4E dropping a bomb that can penetrate the deck armor of Japanese BBs.
Same goes for his Mitchells and Wellingtons, if you have ships in their range then they are in high danger. Of course much depends on the crews experience but the same goes for the Betty crews. Low experience, few hits, high experience, many hits. And high experience also means BIG bombs and big Allied bombs are far more dangerous to Japanese ships than Japanese torpedoes are to Allied ships. Speaking with an experience of thousands of PBEM turns in stock, Nikmod and BigB I can surely say that the Allied equipment of mid 42 on is surely no reason not to sink Japanese ships. The equipment works just fine and you will get more and more and more of that fine equipment. You donīt need no stinking long range torpedo bomber (that canīt be used for anything else) as the Allied, you have heavy bombers that drop 4.000 lb of laser guided bombs as soon as they have decent experience...
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Day Air attack on 149th IJN Base Force, at 53,91
Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 50
PB4Y Liberator x 22
B-24D Liberator x 21
IL-4c x 8
Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
111 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x IL-4c bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 87th Naval Guard Unit, at 53,91
Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 14
Liberator VI x 31
B-17E Fortress x 22
B-24D Liberator x 35
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
185 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Liberator VI bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 53,91
Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 64
A6M3a Zero x 23
B5N Kate x 128
Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 1 damaged
Allied Ships
AP Barnett, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Koolama, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Fuller, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Kansan, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Van Imhoff, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Strahan, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Mintaka, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Empire Pride, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Van Diemen, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Bungaree, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Wanganella, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Eridanus, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Gladstone, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Westralia, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Neptuna, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Kalgoorlie
MSW Inverell, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Pijnacker Hordijk, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Rochussen, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Van Cloon, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Van Landsberge, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Minnesotan, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Wagga, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
SC SC-708, on fire, heavy damage
AK Mahukona, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Electra, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP President Garfield, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Kalani, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Wallaroo, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Draco, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Makiki, Torpedo hits 1
AP Zeilin, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Van Neck, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
72 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
this time nearly the full strike went after ships that havenīt been sunk already and the result looks awful... [:)] I still have problem to believe that a suicide style invasion of PM was really worth it...
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Day Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 53,91
Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 27
G3M Nell x 26
G4M1 Betty x 28
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AP Van Diemen, on fire, heavy damage
AK Coquina, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Wallaroo, on fire, heavy damage
AP Van Cloon, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Eridanus, on fire, heavy damage
AK Kalani, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SC SC-708, on fire, heavy damage
AP Neptuna, on fire, heavy damage
AK Mintaka, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Wanganella, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Kalgoorlie
MSW Wagga, on fire, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
then Siador and Rabaul launch their Betty strikes, finishing off more ships...
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Day Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 53,91
Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 48
G3M Nell x 4
G4M1 Betty x 101
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AK Mahukona, on fire
MSW Rockhampton
MSW Strahan, on fire
AP Van Neck, on fire, heavy damage
AK Kansan, on fire, heavy damage
AP Van Diemen, on fire, heavy damage
AK Coquina, on fire, heavy damage
AP Koolama, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Esperance Bay, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Barnett, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Kalani, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Revenge, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP West Point, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Empire Pride, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Zeilin, on fire, heavy damage
AP Westralia, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Wagga, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
SC SC-708, on fire, heavy damage
AP Fuller, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Van Landsberge, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Fomalhaut, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 51,96
Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 9
Allied aircraft
P-40N Warhawk x 5
P-38G Lightning x 19
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 3 damaged
Allied Ships
DD Norman
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
damn it... Siadorīs Nells attack a LRCAPed TF four hexes off Australiaīs coast and 4 Nells are shot down... avoidable losses... and losses that hurt because those were 4 high experienced crews and every crew counts...
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Day Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 53,91
Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 99
A6M3a Zero x 22
B5N Kate x 138
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AK Fomalhaut, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP George F. Elliot, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP West Point, on fire, heavy damage
AP Van Landsberge, on fire, heavy damage
AK Makiki, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Westralia, on fire, heavy damage
AP Van Neck, on fire, heavy damage
AK Coquina, on fire, heavy damage
AP Van Diemen, on fire, heavy damage
SC SC-708, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Gladstone, on fire, heavy damage
AP Van Cloon, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Koolama, on fire, heavy damage
AP Wanganella, on fire, heavy damage
AP Zeilin, on fire, heavy damage
AP Pijnacker Hordijk, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Kansan, on fire, heavy damage
AK Minnesotan, on fire, heavy damage
AP President Garfield, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Revenge, on fire, heavy damage
AK Mahukona, on fire
MSW Bungaree, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Draco, on fire, heavy damage
AK Electra, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Eridanus, on fire, heavy damage
AP Rochussen, on fire, heavy damage
AP Fuller, on fire, heavy damage
AP Van Imhoff, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Siberg, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Kalani, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Wagga, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
KBīs afternoon strike and 80% of the strike tries to engage already sunk ships... but I guess thereīs not much left of this task force anyway...
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Day Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 53,91
Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 9
G4M1 Betty x 15
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AP Van Diemen, on fire, heavy damage
AP Westralia, on fire, heavy damage
AK Trieste, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Electra, on fire, heavy damage
AK Kalani, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 53,91
Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 49
G3M Nell x 6
G4M1 Betty x 88
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
AK Fomalhaut, on fire, heavy damage
AP Rochussen, on fire, heavy damage
AP Van Diemen, on fire, heavy damage
AK Kalani, on fire, heavy damage
AP Koolama, on fire, heavy damage
AP Pijnacker Hordijk, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Strahan, on fire
AK Eridanus, on fire, heavy damage
AP Empire Pride, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Fuller, on fire, heavy damage
SC SC-707, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Esperance Bay, on fire, heavy damage
AP Barnett, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Rockhampton
AP Neptuna, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Wallaroo, on fire, heavy damage
AP Wanganella, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Pirie, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Inverell, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Bungaree, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Wagga, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
thatīs it... I wonīt do anymore nav strikes from tomorrow on...
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Ground combat at Borzya
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 89047 troops, 984 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 1943
Defending force 83889 troops, 887 guns, 34 vehicles, Assault Value = 1666
Allied ground losses:
96 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
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Ground combat at Chungking
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 15875 troops, 181 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1864
Defending force 282821 troops, 1481 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 6724
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Ground combat at Kweiyang
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 22533 troops, 267 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 2485
Defending force 168204 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 4829
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Ground combat at Wyndham
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 8053 troops, 261 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3848
Defending force 155275 troops, 1106 guns, 427 vehicles, Assault Value = 3103
Allied ground losses:
105 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
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Ground combat at Port Moresby
Japanese Bombardment attack
Attacking force 3907 troops, 17 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 276
Defending force 38894 troops, 739 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 1062
Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
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Ground combat at Karachi
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 100162 troops, 825 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 2600
Defending force 101373 troops, 964 guns, 15 vehicles, Assault Value = 1998
Japanese ground losses:
381 casualties reported
Guns lost 8
Allied ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
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Ground combat at Port Moresby
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 34285 troops, 647 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 1061
Defending force 12949 troops, 27 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 276
Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 0
Allied max assault: 1508 - adjusted assault: 1498
Japanese max defense: 172 - adjusted defense: 91
Allied assault odds: 16 to 1 (fort level 0)
Allied forces CAPTURE Port Moresby base !!!
Japanese ground losses:
1153 casualties reported
Guns lost 13
Allied ground losses:
255 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
there was no doubt that the defenders would have had a chance. The US divisions looked pretty worn out, only the Australian division seems to still be in a good shape. 1061 assault points with 5 Allied divisions and support troops isnīt that much anyway...
well, Port Moresby is Allied again. So what about the situation now? The enemy has landed five divs, some art units, an AA unit and an Australian construction unit and NO base forces. [X(] Was that an oversight? How can you do that invasion without bringing base forces immediately? The airfield is level 3 and it will take some time to further build it up. To further build it up he will need seabees (if he wants to do it fast) and he will need supply. Supply is one major question again and when looking at what weīve hit from day one of the invasion on and how many AKs there were in total and how many were lost, I seriously doubt that Miller has more than 20.000 supplies on the beach. And 20.000 supplies isnīt that much. Enough to go on for some time, but not enough to do serious base building, supplying your troops and mount a bomber offensive out of the place. Which means that Miller has to do two things: a) bring in more supplies (can only be done by ship - say hello to Ms. Betty [;)]) and b) move in more troops (could also be done by airtransport).
Of course he now has made a first step into a region where he can use his Corsairs and medium bombers to hurt me. But to seriously hurt me he probably has to build this place up to max size and I have to let him hurt me, which means staying within Corsair range. Itīs a comparable situation like it was on Timor (just not as dangerous in a strategic view), the enemy came in unexpected and just a couple of weeks too early, he took the place and he now holds position at a place that is surrounded by numerous Japanese bases that have been built up. Those bases can "only" be reached by heavy bombers from Australia or bombers out of PM itself but I guess PM has to concentrate to protect itself rather than launch an offensive. And to exploit the situation, the enemy just has to send task forces to the base, just like it had to be done on Timor. My reaction on Timor lead to my offensive against Northern Australia that was a more or less complete success (except the destruction of all the Allied divisions at Wyndham - but Iīm still working on that one). My reaction against Port Moresby canīt be that I invade the area around Townsville because I canīt go in against 600 Allied bombers with my Cap of 200 KB Zeros and I donīt have the shipping and ground units anyway. Not that I would do that if I would have the ships and the ground troops...
But one thing I can asure you, I already have a plan... [;)] stay tuned...
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