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Greywolf -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (6/18/2009 8:54:18 AM)
Airplanes depiction on counter are more for identification than elsething. Thoses counter are not supposed to be composed of only thoses kind of aircraft. And there is no provision in WiF about what planes should be used on each front, except the Air rating of your opponent planes :p

Orm -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (6/18/2009 12:55:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Fishbed I see a Fw190 A1 unit on the map... Isn't it a little bit early for the Eastern Front? Did you tranfer it from the Channel area? This is from the Barbarossa campaign. The Campaign is 5 turns long and ends after Jan/Feb 42. It only covers the Eastern front. The FW 190A with its long range (for Germany 6 is long range) is invaluble on a moving front like the east front so I would most likely use it here even if I played Global War.

Orm -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (6/18/2009 2:01:28 PM)
The Soviet player felt he had a decent defence line. But with the two daring blitz attacks in the forrests and the attack from Panzerarmee Rundstedt attacking from the south the defence now lie shattered. Even more unfortunate for the Soviet Union is that no of the attackers became disorganized. There is now very few Russian units between the German army and Moscow. A short turn seems the only thing that would stop Moscow from being lost to Germany this turn. Germany is happy that Luftwaffe has finaly catched up with the army. [image]local://upfiles/29130/12C83729A88D4BF9B9E30295765185C5.jpg[/image] Picture taken at the end of Axis Impulse 4, July/August 41.

Orm -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (6/22/2009 7:33:53 PM)
The Soviet armies continues to withdraw. Unfortunately the slow units forced Russia to choose between defending in bad terrain or abandon units to automatic German attacks. Russia decided on trying to save the slow units. On the Southern front Russia decided to try and ground strike the Antonescu HQ. Germany having only one fighter on the entire front decided not to intercept the bombers. With a 30% chance of success the bombers disrupted the only German HQ on the southern front. The HQ is now stuck to far from the front to be able to give supply to any serious attacks on the far south of the front. Forcing Germany to rail a HQ to the far south in order to attack there Russia gambles and chain moves units north in order to strengthen the Moscow front. Even with the extra units from the south the Moscow defence is to weak. [image]local://upfiles/29130/1296ECEBA8724A9BA6F8DDC6324806F8.jpg[/image] Picture taken at the end of USSR Impulse 5, July/August 41.

Neilster -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (6/23/2009 1:20:08 PM)
Thanks Orm. Enjoying these. Just a little thing, it's "too weak", not "to weak" and "too far from the front", not "to far from the front" in this context. English is tricky and this one even trips up a lot of native English speakers. Cheers, Neilster

Orm -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (6/28/2009 9:05:07 PM)
Germany at last has some success with a ground strike. The air combat before the ground strike just aborts both (all) the fighters. A Stuka (with 60% to disrupt each unit) disrupts 2 Soviet armies in the north. Another Stuka (with 50% to disrupt each unit) fails miserably with its ground strike in the south. [image]local://upfiles/29130/97B264BAEC8F4936B27D7039171ECE25.jpg[/image] Picture taken at Land Combat Declaration of Axis Impulse 6, July/August 41.

Orm -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (6/28/2009 9:14:20 PM)
The German attacks shown in the "Land Combat Sequence". The southern of the 2 attacks is selected. It shows the elite of the German Units only managing to get the odds of +8.56 blitz from 3 hexes on 3 strong Soviet units with the 2d10 table. [image]local://upfiles/29130/E044D71D0DC545CC87E8B8C2DACA0309.jpg[/image] Picture taken at Land Combat Resolution of Axis Impulse 6, July/August 41

macgregor -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (6/28/2009 11:35:35 PM)
So there was a x/x result. Wow Steve did a real good job on this -it needed it. It's very well-designed. The fractional odds really adds to the realism in a way that I never saw in the boardgame. I can't wait.

Orm -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (6/29/2009 8:57:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: macgregor So there was a x/x result. Wow Steve did a real good job on this -it needed it. It's very well-designed. The fractional odds really adds to the realism in a way that I never saw in the boardgame. I can't wait. The previous picture was taken before the die roll.

Orm -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (6/29/2009 9:07:01 PM)
Germany is forced to take a Mot, Mech or Arm as extra loss because USSR had a defending ARM. The lack of Mot Div in the in the German army is annoying and Germany destroys a Mech div. 6 shattered units and two breakthroughs hints of nice things to come for Germany if the turn gets long. If it is a short turn Russia will get lots of reinforcements because of all the shattered units. [image]local://upfiles/29130/25F945BE2BBB42F9926B3BA4A0B548B1.jpg[/image] Picture taken at Land Combat Resolution of Axis Impulse 6, July/August 41.

Greywolf -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (6/30/2009 7:51:37 AM)
Good AAR.

Orm -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (6/30/2009 11:03:53 AM)
The Rundstedt HQ reorganize all the German units that became disorganized in the last attack. [image]local://upfiles/29130/51DA37D668734A29BAE743A6EF388D96.jpg[/image] Picture taken at the end of HQ Reorganization, Axis Impulse 6, July/August 41.

Orm -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (7/12/2009 3:29:09 PM)
USSR ground strikes one of the German hexes. "Flipping" one 7-5 mot and the Jagdpanzer Division. Soviet Union uses up all its reorganization capabilty to reorganize 3 land units and 2 fighters. [image]local://upfiles/29130/BE96A65A5B6B485780E41DE34D492CCC.jpg[/image] Picture taken at the end of HQ Reorganization, USSR Impulse 7, July/August 41.

Orm -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (7/14/2009 10:47:41 PM)
With no German fighters ready to fly on the Moscow front, and Soviet has 2 fighters ready, Germany decides to ground the bombers. With no air support von Bock decide lead the attack on Kalinin in order to get decent odds. Soviet airpower is feared to lower the odds to much without the HQ support. It is a gamble but Germany reasons it might be the last impulse of the turn... [image]local://upfiles/29130/27DC979E1FDE4689B41100D6C9C12AD2.jpg[/image] Picture taken at Land Combat Declaration of Axis Impulse 8, July/August 41.

Orm -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (7/15/2009 10:12:51 AM)
Half the units attacking Kalinin were flipped face down (disorganized). 1 division lost for Germany against 2 cheap units for USSR. Germany used up its last HQ to reorganize 2 units. So both countries have all HQ face down. [image]local://upfiles/29130/6E7E35C23C594604B726B3597944D8B6.jpg[/image] Picture taken at the end of HQ Reorganization, Axis Impulse 8, July/August 41.

composer99 -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (7/15/2009 4:11:08 PM)
Still doesn't look fantastic for USSR. Good weather in Sept/Oct could mean Germans in Moscow.

Orm -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (7/16/2009 8:03:18 PM)
Germany is disappointed that the turn ended after the Russian impulse on a 30% chance for it to end. The Soviet union now looks forward to 20 corps and 3 artillery units in reinforcements. [image]local://upfiles/29130/18B24FF7552A4DDD9C7C1B8E62325EA7.jpg[/image] Picture taken at the beginning of the end of turn, July/August 41.

sajbalk -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (7/16/2009 9:31:36 PM)
Could you post pictures at this stage of the S. of Russia and the Finland area? Thanks,

Orm -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (7/16/2009 9:53:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sajbalk Could you post pictures at this stage of the S. of Russia and the Finland area? Thanks, Sure. Here is the southern front. Please note that both the German HQ in this picture were disrupted so the some of the front units are out of supply and none of the Soviet units could be attacked. [image]local://upfiles/29130/4CFCF85BDB644BD7BFAA291D48E898F2.jpg[/image] Picture taken at the end of turn, July/August 41.

Orm -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (7/16/2009 10:01:06 PM)
Here is the Murmansk front at zoom level 7 (out of 8). Finland has made 2 assaults on Murmansk and failed both. [image]local://upfiles/29130/0219E632A07F40C7A66D052A8B386844.jpg[/image] Picture taken at the end of turn, July/August 41.

Orm -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (7/16/2009 10:12:36 PM)
Germany decided at the beginning of this turn to abandon the drive towards Leningrad and diverted those forces towards Moscow. There are no units at all north of this picture untill the units shown on the Murmansk front. [image]local://upfiles/29130/C1A226BB677B4B57AD90D79234D0DA38.jpg[/image] Picture taken at the end of turn, July/August 41.

Orm -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (7/18/2009 12:34:23 PM)
Germany lost the initiative roll and demanded a reroll and won the second die roll. After the weather roll the German player (me) feels like someone has stolen all his candy. Germany gets even more depressed when he looks at all the new Soviet units that arrived as reinforcement. [image]local://upfiles/29130/1FF7D3B2F92C4B7DB9C446370CF03CB8.jpg[/image] Picture taken at the beginning of Axis impulse 1, Sep/Oct 41. The weather in this picture is storm.

warspite1 -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (7/18/2009 1:45:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Orm Here is the Murmansk front at zoom level 7 (out of 8). Finland has made 2 assaults on Murmansk and failed both. [image]local://upfiles/29130/0219E632A07F40C7A66D052A8B386844.jpg[/image] Picture taken at the end of turn, July/August 41. Warspite1 Orm - thanks for taking the trouble to show these. as someone who only ever got to play with those, less than ideal off-map boxes, its great to see this part of the map "in action" [:)].

brian brian -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (7/19/2009 4:23:08 AM)
how many units were 'new' and how many were from 'shatters' ?

Orm -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (7/19/2009 9:13:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: brian brian how many units were 'new' and how many were from 'shatters' ? I do not know that unfortunately.

peskpesk -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (7/20/2009 9:51:31 PM)
Finally a break for the Russians�[;)] From what I have seen so far it seams as the 2D10 CRT ,fine weather and the Barbarossa setup rules is a killer for the USSR, roughly how many of the 20 units that must be setup within 2 hexes of the border survived the first turn?

Orm -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (7/20/2009 9:59:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: peskpesk Finally a break for the Russians�[;)] From what I have seen so far it seams as the 2D10 CRT ,fine weather and the Barbarossa setup rules is a killer for the USSR, roughly how many of the 20 units that must be setup within 2 hexes of the border survived the first turn? No idea. My guess would be 4 to 6. But if someone said it was zero units I would belive him. I think it was 1 or two of them that was shattered during the first turn and that counts as surviving. [;)]

Shannon V. OKeets -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (7/20/2009 10:08:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: peskpesk Finally a break for the Russians�[;)] From what I have seen so far it seams as the 2D10 CRT ,fine weather and the Barbarossa setup rules is a killer for the USSR, roughly how many of the 20 units that must be setup within 2 hexes of the border survived the first turn? For those unfamiliar with the Barbarossa scenario, the USSR must set up 10 Corps within 2 hexes of Rumania and another 10 Corps within 2 hexes of East Prussia/western Poland. Those 20 corps get hammered when Germany launches its surprise attack.

brian brian -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (7/20/2009 10:44:34 PM)
When I'm playing the Germans I frequently forget that I can convert a shatter result to a retreat and push the defenders off in a direction where they are easier to surround and perhaps completely eliminate. The next reinforcement phase I am reminded of that, every time.

morgil -> RE: Barbarossa and Army Group Center in pictures (7/21/2009 6:57:17 PM)
No wonder they are failing to take out Murmansk, as they are OOS [:-], unless there is something funny im not seeing...[:D]

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