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larryfulkerson -> RE: Axis turn 23 (2/24/2010 3:12:57 AM)

Click on the link below for the Axis turn 26 AAR:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/zjonnmwmtcd/August Fog turn 26 AAR.html

Here's the mini-map moves movie for turns 1 throu 26:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/oemmgtimyik/moves mini movie from turns 1 throu 26.gif



larryfulkerson -> RE: Axis turn 27 (2/25/2010 6:44:23 AM)

Click on the link below for the Axis turn 27 AAR:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/nqoeyyzyy4y/August Fog turn 27 AAR.html



larryfulkerson -> RE: Axis turn 28 (2/26/2010 7:13:22 AM)

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Click on the link below to view the Axis turn 28 AAR:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/mgnzgwn3mmt/August Fog turn 28 AAR.html


Here's a movie showing how the front lines changes from turns 7 throu 28: ( 11Meg bytes big )

http://www.mediafire.com/file/zbt3ydizz4i/front lines.movie turns 7 throu 28.gif



Randy Collins -> RE: Axis turn 28 (2/27/2010 12:46:17 PM)

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Randy Collins -> RE: Axis turn 28 (2/27/2010 12:48:27 PM)

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Randy Collins -> RE: Axis turn 28 (2/27/2010 12:59:06 PM)

The Allied situation map at the end of turn 27:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/zlzgxdqynmm/Autumn Fog end Turn 27.jpg



Randy Collins -> RE: Axis turn 28 (2/27/2010 2:01:15 PM)

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Axis turn 28 (2/27/2010 9:47:18 PM)

The Allied side of Game 2 turn 1 is finished and if you want to download the AAR I've put together to view it on your hard drive just use this link:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/qzqw3ddj42a/august Fog Game 2 Turn 1 AAR.zip

Use this link to view the AAR for the Allied turn 1 of game 2: (Warning:  it's about 5 Meg bytes big so it might take a minute to download.)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/zjzafikd2jz/august Fog Game 2 Turn 1 AAR.html

Randy says he's going to start an AAR for Game 2 so stay tuned.



Telumar -> RE: Axis turn 28 (3/4/2010 2:11:42 PM)

So, what are the changes in version 4.0 Randy and larry are playing?

Btw, i am still playing version 3 something you send me vs the PO, but didn't progress far (in game turns).



sPzAbt653 -> RE: Axis turn 28 (3/4/2010 9:01:47 PM)

The biggest change was redoing the southern area again. The German XC corp was on map at start (part of the 1.Armee garrison), but now it is not and will arrive much later in the scenario (when the Allies start attacking into the southern area). I also looked at the Nafziger stuff that Boonie posted and made some unit changes. Thanks Boonie! Also changed some objectives based on my current game against the Allied PO. And started eliminating some news strings that were not needed (troubleshooters).

Still pondering the German 150mm howitzer vs. gun issue that was pointed out in one of the D21 threads. The standard German 150 apparently had an historical range of 12km, but the howitzer used in the stock TOAW equipment list has a range of 6km. The TOAW 150 gun has a 16km range, so it's a bit too far for this scenario. The 'WWII database' has the exact '150mm sFH18' that the Germans used, so I have to decide if I want to use a modified equipment file for AF, or just leave it as is.



sPzAbt653 -> RE: Axis Artillery (3/6/2010 2:42:09 PM)

The possible artillery change would allow the German Infantry Divisions' artillery to be combined into one unit. The 105's and 75's have a range of 5, while the 150's have a range of 6. This would make it easier to play the German side (many less artillery units), but would require better placement of the artillery units as they will now support attacks within 6 hexes.

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sapper32 -> RE: Axis Artillery (3/6/2010 7:06:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sPzAbt653

The possible artillery change would allow the German Infantry Divisions' artillery to be combined into one unit. The 105's and 75's have a range of 5, while the 150's have a range of 6. This would make it easier to play the German side (many less artillery units), but would require better placement of the artillery units as they will now support attacks within 6 hexes.

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I see in the unit window there is a total of 54 assorted guns in the Arty unit but only a max of 26 horse teams and 14 trucks totaling 40 a shortfall of 14 teams? It says the unit has mixed transport is that truck/horse/foot or truck/horse just an observation regards Ian



sPzAbt653 -> RE: Axis Artillery (3/6/2010 8:06:49 PM)

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a shortfall of 14 teams? It says the unit has mixed transport is that truck/horse/foot or truck/horse just an observation


Hi Ian. If you're not familiar wth the the scenario, the 'shortfall' is to represent German transport problems. The 'mixed' movement means it is in between 'motorized' and 'foot', which in this scenario means the equipment cannot be moved across many of the river hexes unless at an intact bridge.



Telumar -> RE: Axis turn 28 (3/6/2010 8:43:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sPzAbt653

Still pondering the German 150mm howitzer vs. gun issue that was pointed out in one of the D21 threads. The standard German 150 apparently had an historical range of 12km, but the howitzer used in the stock TOAW equipment list has a range of 6km. The TOAW 150 gun has a 16km range, so it's a bit too far for this scenario. The 'WWII database' has the exact '150mm sFH18' that the Germans used, so I have to decide if I want to use a modified equipment file for AF, or just leave it as is.


I think the standard TOAW 150mm Howitzer represents the 15cm sIG 33 which was in use with the German infantry's regimental gun companoies.

So, you're using the WWII data base now? Derek Weichs (aka Panzer War)? Or did you just alter the guns in the standard toaw equipment database? Derek Weichs WWII dtabase works fine for my Anzio scenario, btw.



sPzAbt653 -> RE: Axis turn 28 (3/6/2010 11:04:11 PM)

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I think the standard TOAW 150mm Howitzer represents the 15cm sIG 33 which was in use with the German infantry's regimental gun companoies.


Ahh, ok. I was wondering why the discrepency. Of course, different sources are always a wonder, but the 6km to 12km range difference seemed a bit much.

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So, you're using the WWII data base now? Derek Weichs (aka Panzer War)? Or did you just alter the guns in the standard toaw equipment database? Derek Weichs WWII dtabase works fine for my Anzio scenario, btw.


The database was something I saved who knows when and without noting where it came from, so if it is Derek Weichs', thanks for the info, and many thanks to Derek. For Fog, I have used that database as a reference to add the German guns to the standard database (I just replaced some of the German fixed guns that aren't used in Fog with the ones from Dereks database).

Thanks again for the info !

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Axis turn 28 (3/10/2010 3:50:40 PM)

Thanks for a copy of the newest version ( 5.0 ) of Autumn Fog Steve.  I've posted it on the file server and anybody can download it from here:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/i3finmmjtzy/Autumn Fog 5_0.zip



Abnormalmind -> RE: Axis turn 28 (3/10/2010 4:29:36 PM)

Wooo hooo!!! v 5.0, congrats!



larryfulkerson -> RE: Axis turn 28 (3/10/2010 4:49:24 PM)

The folder named "autumn fog" goes in your graphics directory.  That way the program will be able to find the equipment file for autumn fog.  The scenario itself ( the .SCE file ) goes in your scenarios/west front          directory.  ( Or wherever you put your west front scenarios. )



Telumar -> RE: Axis turn 28 (3/11/2010 1:33:30 PM)

5.0 ? Again the usual question: What has been changed?



sPzAbt653 -> RE: Axis turn 28 (3/11/2010 4:50:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Telumar

5.0 ? Again the usual question: What has been changed?


Mostly the German artillery units, now they have one per division instead of two. The equipment ranges are 5 and 6 hexes, so hopefully it will work out ok that all the 150's, 105' and 75's are in the same unit now. There are so many artillery units in the scenario, maybe this will also ease some pain.



Telumar -> RE: Axis turn 28 (3/12/2010 9:27:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sPzAbt653


quote:

ORIGINAL: Telumar

5.0 ? Again the usual question: What has been changed?


Mostly the German artillery units, now they have one per division instead of two. The equipment ranges are 5 and 6 hexes, so hopefully it will work out ok that all the 150's, 105' and 75's are in the same unit now. There are so many artillery units in the scenario, maybe this will also ease some pain.


This is indeed a great ease. I am still playing 3.0 and it's a lot of traffic management. The PO is working ok, but still can be easily trapped, which is a PO problem, not your fault certainly.

At turn 10 now. I have chosen the small solution, GD Korps in the centre (actually my southern pincer), Army Group reserves in the north with a Pincer attack to envelope Aachen and use the Meuse as a defence line against the West. The Brits get easily overwhelmed by the might of several Pz and PzG divisions which are wheeling towards Maastricht without an enemy in sight, but resistance is stiffening in the south, especially in the Meuse direction whereas the area around Bastogne is calm, but only thinly held. An advance towards Luxembourg began very promising, but ended with the appeareance of an Arm Div. In the centre i gave too much attention to breaking through around Elsenborn which costed me precious time. I should have directed my main southern thrust further south, slightly north of Bastogne where terrain and enemy disposition have been much more favourable. There several Pz, PzG Divs and HG Pz broke through, but now seem to lack the last punch to get to the Meuse. GD Korps is following behind, ready to enter the ongoing battle against elements of three Armoured Divisions the next turn.



witp1951 -> RE: Axis turn 28 (3/13/2010 12:24:49 PM)

Thanks, everyone involved for the new scn. At the risk of everybody rolling their eyes, is there an ETA on 3.4? I was holding off picking this game back up until the new patch came out.



sPzAbt653 -> RE: Axis turn 28 (3/13/2010 12:41:41 PM)

No ETA yet as far as I've heard.



sPzAbt653 -> RE: A quick AAR (3/28/2010 3:47:22 AM)

Going for Antwerp.

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sPzAbt653 -> RE: t37 (3/28/2010 3:51:05 AM)

My pitiful schwerpunkt has been scratching and clawing thru Elmers pitiful defenses and by turn 37 I have entered into Antwerp. But just as I thought I was going to win a prize, I was very disappointed to find a Polish Armoured Brigade firmly entrenched there.

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sPzAbt653 -> RE: t39 (3/28/2010 3:53:52 AM)

By turn 39 some Canadians had shown up and beaten me back a bit, but I was scratching some reinforcements together and heading them to the area for another try.

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sPzAbt653 -> RE: t44 (3/28/2010 3:55:51 AM)

By turn 44 things were looking better and GD Pz Div had arrived to spearhead the second effort.

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sPzAbt653 -> RE: t45 (3/28/2010 3:59:17 AM)

Turn 45 brought back the disapointment as my attack ground to a halt and the Poles, Canadians, Brits and Amis attacked me harshly and started making a mess of things.

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sPzAbt653 -> RE: Retreat (3/28/2010 4:06:17 AM)

With the East Front needing the bulk of my offensive forces, all that was left to do was to fall back. Even against Elmer a retreat like this is a painful nightmare. I fault no one for quiting this scenario before putting up with this part of it.

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sPzAbt653 -> RE: Retreat (3/28/2010 4:12:33 AM)

This ended up a draw. I'm sure it would have been a victory for me but I kept the 6SS Pz Army, HG Korps and GD Korps in the action for too long, giving the Allies too many victory points. A shame I couldn't get Antwerp and wipe out the British 21st Army Group and US 9th Army.

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