06 Maestro -> RE: NORAD tracks Santa.... (12/27/2009 4:14:03 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Jevhaddah My wife suffered a brain Aneurysm in January, she was taken to hospital and had her coiling operation within 24 hours on the NHS and is now well on the mend... I myself am severerly disabled and would have died many years ago if not for the NHS. My twin girls were born at 26 weeks and are now 16 years, without the NHS they would be dead. Sooo I am a bit biased on the good work the NHS does. I cannot speak for anyone elses experiences but in my 51 years I have no complaints. Private healthcare IS an option in the UK for those that feel the need, personaly I can't afford it and because of my injuries would not be accepted for it even if I could aford it. Looks like the Santa on the plane better have his health insurance paid up... unless he is covered by the NHS [:D] Cheers Jev Re-reading this post I get the impression that some of you outlanders have the wrong idea about the system here. DO you think we are a bunch of barbarians? Come on now; there are a myriad of social security nets in the US to help nearly everyone. Jev, you, your wife and your daughters would have been taken care of here-and quite well. The worst case scenario would have been if you were able bodied, working, without insurance and had a home which could be gone after by collectors. But...in large parts of the country homeowners can "homestead" your primary residence. In that case you can tell the collectors to go pound sand. Believe it or not, there are people that do not want anything from the government-except to be left in peace. I know men that refuse to collect their social security pension-they would rather keep working. It sounds like the UK has a good system, but one which is under the same pressures as the "system" in the U.S. Funny how these things worked well in the past, but are now on the ropes. I don't know about you, but I did not do anything to break the system. I could really rant on this subject-I'll keep it short. I watched as a once very good insurance plan went down the toilet because of "do gooders". I was an agent for the Carpenters Union here some years ago. I was quite familiar with the health plan. I will give one little example of what started happening in the early '90's. Vision care was dropped (from a previous unlimited amounts minus frames) dental was capped at 1500 per year and a lifetime cap of 3000 from a previous amount that would have been adequate for any family for any amount of time. Why did those changes come into being? Because of what was called a MAP program. A program to get dope heads off of drugs. The amounts allotted for MAP at the same time the others were being slashed was 30,000 per year with no lifetime cap (or a very high cap amount-can't remember for sure). The real kick in all that is the the shrinks and shelters are apparently incapable of curring about 97% of the people that go through those programs. Most can stay clean for a few months and that is it. I said then, and I still say it; if you have some mental problem, take it to a priest or your mommy, at least you'll get someone who cares. Whatever, don't put your selfish bs problems on my back. Because, frankly, I don't give a damn. If not for that kind of "planning" and allowing tens of millions of non payer's to suck off the system, it would have been just fine. The system was broken by those that write the law-and now some think that those same kings (or current jargon might be Czars) will fix it. Excuse me while I go laugh.
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