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castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (2/25/2011 12:26:16 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 25, 44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Cam Ranh Bay at 69,75 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 16 minutes Allied aircraft Corsair II x 20 F6F-3 Hellcat x 156 No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * 20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * 20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * 20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * 20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * 16 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * 10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * 10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * 10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * 10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * 10 x Corsair II sweeping at 15000 feet * 10 x Corsair II sweeping at 15000 feet * I hate it... I really hate this stupidity!!! [8\|] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Cam Ranh Bay at 69,75 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Allied aircraft F6F-3 Hellcat x 30 No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * 10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Cam Ranh Bay at 69,75 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Allied aircraft F6F-3 Hellcat x 50 No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * 20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * 10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * hundreds of fighters are sent from our fighters to escort a strike against some merchants... 256 show up first because they all missed the bombers coming from the same carriers... these routines are just silly... noone can seriously think that this would be anywhere realistic, neither the fact that the fighters constantly fail to escort anything (no matter which alt, it just means nothing) nor the fact that it´s even sillier how the strikes look like... yeah, hundreds of fighters escorted a dozen bombers in real life... SURE! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Kudat , at 69,86 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 39,500 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 3 No Japanese losses Aircraft Attacking: 3 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 38500 feet * -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Port Arthur , at 99,44 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3a Zero x 10 Allied aircraft Liberator II x 6 Liberator B.III x 15 Liberator B.VI x 30 B-24D1 Liberator x 74 B-29-1 Superfort x 78 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Liberator B.III: 1 damaged Refinery hits 39 Airbase hits 5 Runway hits 28 Aircraft Attacking: 7 x Liberator B.III bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x Liberator II bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 8 x Liberator B.III bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 10 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 10 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb CAP engaged: S-311 Hikotai with A6M3a Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes we return to Port Arthur and now also target the refineries while the rest of the bombers keeps the airfield in wrecked state... the couple of Zeroes are LRCAP... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Port Arthur , at 99,44 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3a Zero x 7 Allied aircraft Liberator II x 6 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Liberator II: 4 damaged Runway hits 1 Aircraft Attacking: 6 x Liberator II bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb CAP engaged: S-311 Hikotai with A6M3a Zero (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 6 plane(s) intercepting now. 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 53 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Port Arthur , at 99,44 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Allied aircraft B-24D1 Liberator x 9 No Allied losses Refinery hits 1 Aircraft Attacking: 9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Port Arthur , at 99,44 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Allied aircraft B-24D1 Liberator x 7 Allied aircraft losses B-24D1 Liberator: 2 damaged Refinery hits 2 Aircraft Attacking: 7 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Port Arthur , at 99,44 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 33 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Allied aircraft B-29-1 Superfort x 3 No Allied losses Refinery hits 1 Aircraft Attacking: 3 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Port Arthur , at 99,44 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Allied aircraft B-24D1 Liberator x 4 No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 4 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Cam Ranh Bay at 69,75 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Allied aircraft F6F-3 Hellcat x 60 SB2C-1C Helldiver x 31 Allied aircraft losses SB2C-1C Helldiver: 2 damaged Japanese Ships SC Ch 15, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage TK Jinju Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage E W-28, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires SC Ch 14, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk SC Ch 51 TK Noshiro Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage TK Rokkosan Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage TK Peking Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage TK Kyokuyo Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires Aircraft Attacking: 11 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' * Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 15 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' * Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 5 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' * Naval Attack: 1 x 500 lb SAP Bomb Heavy smoke from fires obscuring SC Ch 15 Heavy smoke from fires obscuring TK Jinju Maru Heavy smoke from fires obscuring E W-28 Heavy smoke from fires obscuring SC Ch 14 Heavy smoke from fires obscuring TK Noshiro Maru Heavy smoke from fires obscuring TK Peking Maru Heavy smoke from fires obscuring TK Kyokuyo Maru so here´s the strike on the enemy tanker convoy... the strike routine decided that it´s worth it to send 316 fighters with 31 bombers, a 10:1 ratio... stupid or silly? I let you decide... in WITP you could prevent this by settng the fighter squdrons to 80% Cap or so, in AE now that fatigue skyrockets when you set your Cap to more than 40% this is no longer possible and you can also not tell them to mount reasonable strikes so you just gotta live with it... your fighters fly out in ridicoulos numbers while your carriers can end up being attacked by the enemy with only a meager cover compared to what would be available... so either you give the player the chance to give order what the aircraft should do or if the player can´t influence it (of course I can stand down everything - now that would be a smart idea) then provide a better working routine... not asking for a perfect result, but that´s not even acceptable like it is now... [8\|] Rainer has already suffered for it when nearly 50% of his fighters escorted 9 bombers to attack a couple of barges while bombs from my LBA rained down on his carriers and it can happen to everyone everytime... and setting Cap to 80% is not an option at all because you end up with insane fatigue after two days... the reason for this strike is that my fleet has set course to bring lots of troops to Kudat that was taken by my paras, combat units will then march to Jesselton and take the place against meager opposition... Jesselton will be built up to level 9 and USN long range bombers will rule the South China Sea from Jesselton and Saigon... of course there will still be ships slipping through but if bigger convoys are spotted and don´t get attacked by the long range bombers then we can still do what we are doing today, sending out the carriers as they can reach every spot in the South China Sea within two days so nothing is save for the enemy... the convoys bringing in troops are in the Tawi Tawi area at the moment, KB is still sitting at Manila, expected to bail out and head North (North East) as my carrier fleet is pretty close by and absolutely superior to KB... [image]local://upfiles/13774/0ACEC674D86A4F40BCCA55B072697F23.jpg[/image] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Kudat , at 69,86 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 42,500 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 26 No Japanese losses Aircraft Attacking: 26 x A6M5 Zero sweeping at 38500 feet * attempt to catch my LRCAP... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Cam Ranh Bay at 69,75 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 17 minutes Allied aircraft Corsair II x 10 F6F-3 Hellcat x 100 No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * 20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * 20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * 10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * 10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * 10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * 10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * 10 x Corsair II sweeping at 15000 feet * what is stupid in the morning stays as stupid in the afternoon... yeah, it is working very well indeed... and no critism accepted... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Cam Ranh Bay at 69,75 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Allied aircraft F6F-3 Hellcat x 70 No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * 20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * 20 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * 10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Cam Ranh Bay at 69,75 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 15 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Allied aircraft F6F-3 Hellcat x 10 No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 10 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet * -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Cam Ranh Bay at 69,75 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Allied aircraft F6F-3 Hellcat x 20 TBF-1 Avenger x 18 No Allied losses Japanese Ships E W-28, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk E Susuki, Bomb hits 1, on fire TK Noshiro Maru, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk Aircraft Attacking: 18 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet * Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb Heavy smoke from fires obscuring E W-28 Heavy smoke from fires obscuring TK Noshiro Maru 316 fighters escorted 31 bombers in the morning, 210 escorted 18 bombers in the afternoon... both times a 10+:1 ratio... the routine is so silly to send more than 500 fighters to attack this task force but only sends 39 bombers, while there are still a dozen ships left... that´s how it´s done... [8\|] and then you lose 8 Hellcats to ops... [&o] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Samarinda (65,96) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 14543 troops, 236 guns, 439 vehicles, Assault Value = 600 Defending force 4389 troops, 31 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 67 Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 3 Allied adjusted assault: 340 Japanese adjusted defense: 14 Allied assault odds: 24 to 1 (fort level 3) Allied forces CAPTURE Samarinda !!! Combat modifiers Defender: forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 1444 casualties reported Squads: 58 destroyed, 7 disabled Non Combat: 125 destroyed, 12 disabled Engineers: 10 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled) Units retreated 7 Allied ground losses: 99 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Defeated Japanese Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 637th Tank Destroyer Battalion 5th Australian Division 627th Tank Destroyer Battalion 3rd Motor Brigade VII US Amphib Force 2nd Medium Regiment Defending units: 24th Ind.Mixed Brigade 15th Naval Guard Unit 31st JAAF AF Bn 3rd Shipping Engineer Regiment 22nd JAAF AF Bn 3rd Fleet 63rd JNAF AF Unit /1 the troops that took Balikpapan shock attack across the river and take Samarinda on the first attempt...

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (2/25/2011 12:27:42 PM)
result of sending 500+ fighters to escort 49 bombers to an undefended target is 8 fighters lost to ops...[&o] now someone could argue the routine is smart and is modelling history very well because the tankers could have been misidentified with carriers... ok, how smart is the routine then in sending 49 instead of 800 bombers? Besides that, there were more than a dozen messages shown of tankers identified... no matter how far you go with abstractions, this fighter/bomber ratio is totally off... the fact that 80% of the bombers fail to escort and sweep instead is something I don´t even comment anymore, the way the game is now this can be even seen as ADVANTAGE! [X(] IMO every Admiral would be court martialed for sending 500+ fighters with 49 bombers when on the same time his fleet is in high danger of being attacked by enemy forces. [image]local://upfiles/13774/EB91310FC1EF42EB8502B3C5088329F1.jpg[/image]

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (2/25/2011 12:55:45 PM)
Now fasten your seat belts, the show is really starting now! [X(] Insane turn and absolutely unexpected to me! AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 26, 44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Kudat , at 69,86 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 21 NM, estimated altitude 42,500 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 26 Allied aircraft Hellcat I x 12 F6F-3 Hellcat x 126 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 9 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Hellcat I: 2 destroyed CAP engaged: No.1839 Sqn FAA with Hellcat I (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 38800. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes VC(F)-21 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 38800. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes VC(F)-39 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 34000 and 35000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes VC(F)-41 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 38800. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes VC(F)-65 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 38800. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes VOC(F)-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 38800. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes VC(F)-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 38800. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes VC(F)-4 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 38800. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes VC(F)-5 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes VRF-2F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 37000 and 38800. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes VRF-4F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 38000 and 38800. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes VRF-6F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 32000 and 38800. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes VRF-7F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 38800. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes this wasn´t a real surprise as also yesterday we saw a sweep to Kudat... this turn one of my CVE TFs was sitting there covering two SAG and my big amphibious TF (made up by APA and LST) unloading troops there... despite being on a ceiling sweep the Zekes had a bad day ending up against all those Hellcats... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Kudat , at 69,86 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 41,500 feet. Estimated time to target is 60 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 3 [8\|] Allied aircraft Hellcat I x 7 F6F-3 Hellcat x 115 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed CAP engaged: VC(F)-21 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 38800. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 66 minutes VC(F)-39 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 38500 and 39500. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 59 minutes VC(F)-41 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 37500 and 39500. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes VOC(F)-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 35500 and 39500. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes VC(F)-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 42500. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes VC(F)-4 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 38500 and 39500. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes VC(F)-5 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) 5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 39500. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes VRF-2F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 37500 and 38800. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 53 minutes VRF-4F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 40500 and 41500. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 77 minutes VRF-6F with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 37500 and 41500. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes VRF-7F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 38500 and 41500. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 68 minutes No.1839 Sqn FAA with Hellcat I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 38500 and 39500. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 56 minutes VC(F)-65 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 38500 and 42500. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes a lost fragment of the main sweep, nothing new I would say... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- during the search phase our carrier based Helldivers and the floatplanes from the battlewaggons and cruisers picked up the enemy closing in with the whole fleet! Droves of search aircraft were shot down during the search phase (guess we´ve lost more than two dozen aircraft over the enemy fleet during the search phase [8\|]). When the enemy was picked up the carriers were reported being six hexes from our carriers and this meant perfect strike range as the Helldivers would attack with one 1000lb bomb plus two 250lb bombs while the TBF and TBM would attack with torps (most of the bombers were set to carry torps). Our carriers were set to 0 react and staid in place and to my total surprise the enemy carriers all reacted one hex to then end up 5 hexes away from my carriers! Woohoo, this is going to be the endgame I´ve thought... [sm=00000612.gif] And the Allied carrier fleet is the one to strike first! Morning Air attack on TF, near Puerto Princesa at 71,79 Weather in hex: Clear sky [X(][X(] Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 52 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 111 [X(] A6M5b Zero x 31 [X(] Allied aircraft Barracuda II x 13 Corsair II x 31 F6F-3 Hellcat x 350 SB2C-1C Helldiver x 367 TBF-1 Avenger x 296 TBM-1C Avenger x 62 holy crap, our carriers launch a combined mega strike of no less than 1119 aircraft, this time the fighter/bomber ratio being 1:2. We´ve got four CV TFs plus one CVE TF in the hex and all seem to have launched their aircraft at once, this is the biggest carrier strike I´ve ever seen. All time record in this PBEM was the 500+ strike from KB in our first carrier engagement that knocked out a CV, halve a dozen CVE plus several BB 500 miles North West of Port Moresby. But this strike tops everything. And the first thing to notice was clear sky over the target, this is going to be a whipeout, there can´t be anything that stops my aircraft from whiping the floor with the enemy, something I was sure about before the first aircraft was shot down. This has to be all of KB but we only meet 142 enemy fighters on Cap. This can´t go wrong! As a sidenote, we of course had lots of "bombers unable to locate target" etc. messages but that didn´t really matter at all when such a strike shows up over the target. [image]local://upfiles/13774/100E40541B67433397E8B0679F68CE41.jpg[/image]

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (2/25/2011 1:23:52 PM)
Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 8 destroyed A6M5b Zero: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Barracuda II: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged Corsair II: 2 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 21 destroyed SB2C-1C Helldiver: 5 destroyed, 25 damaged TBF-1 Avenger: 9 destroyed, 24 damaged TBM-1C Avenger: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged a fierce fight over KB starts and despite having three times more fighters on escort than the enemy got on Cap, the Hellcats were pretty much shot up as they could not hold their own against the enemy Zekes getting the never ending dive (this again just made me wonder how 140 Zekes could get the dive against 350 Hellcats for the whole duration of the engagement). Not a single message of a Hellcat diving on a Zeke showed up, not even one. But all this of course didn´t count, even if we would have lost twice the number of fighters. Outnumbering the Cap nearly 3:1 also didn´t really help in keeping the enemy from attacking the bombers but only two dozen were shot down in the end. Then it was time to watch the bombers close in on the enemy carrier fleet... [8D] lean back and watch the massacre was my thought at this stage... Japanese Ships CVE Shinyo, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk CVL Nisshin, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires CV Unryu, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires CVL Mizuho, Bomb hits 13, heavy fires, heavy damage CV Junyo, Bomb hits 17, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk CV Taiho, Bomb hits 33, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk CVL Ryuho, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk CVL Zuiho, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Nowaki, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage CL Yubari, Bomb hits 12, and is sunk DD Hatsushima, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk DD Samidare, Bomb hits 11, and is sunk DD Tadeshiwa, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk CVL Chiyoda, Bomb hits 15, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Okinami, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk DD Hayanami, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Hagikaze, Bomb hits 13, and is sunk DD Aogumo, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk DD Katsutade, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Asashimo CL Abukuma, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage CL Kinu DD Kiyonami we were facing Cap from 20 enemy carriers of all classes so when looking at what was attacked by this mega strike it appears to have been two enemy carrier TFs, the lower value ones I would say, as there were also the Zuikaku, Shokaku with other fleet carriers in the hex. Taking out the Taiho of course was a big prize, despite my auto sig. [:D] Bomb after bomb slammed into the enemy ships, the Helldivers are doing the job here, the torpedo bombers are insanly... B A D... [8\|] 12 torpedo hits in the end out of 272 torpedoes dropped... 4.41% hit rate is not impressing, especially when you see dozens of torpedoes missing ships that already have suffered so many 1000lb bombs that they´re nothing else than floating wrecks. This again reminds me about how uber Japanese torpedo attacks are compared to US ones, the reason for it is beyond me, perhaps the MK13 has got so terrible stats compared to the Japanese 18 inch torp. All those torp bombers carrying torps had a torp skill of 70 and I´m sure pilots´s skill are treated the same for both sides. So what´s the deal with US torp attacks? After this first strike I´ve thought it wouldn´t really matter anymore in this game as this event here already decided the fate of the enemy IMO, for future campaigns I´m strictly using 80% of my torpedo bombers for attacks with bombs as they tend to hit far more carrying bombs. And one of the big steps forward compared to WITP is the fact that bombs now also really harm enemy BB, even if they don´t penetrate the BB´s armor, enough bomb hits is going to rack up sys quickly, sys together with fire is a killer, even with low flt damage. Needless to say that at this point I was already cheering in front of my PC (with the girl friend shaking head behind me on the sofa [:D])... Aircraft Attacking: 11 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 17 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 11 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 18 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 16 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 18 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 3 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 18 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 14 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 18 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 19 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 10 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 18 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 15 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 16 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 10 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 15 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 8 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 14 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 19 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 18 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 5 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 11 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 9 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 8 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 9 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 9 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 9 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 9 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 9 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 9 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 9 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 11 x Barracuda II launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo 9 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 8 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 9 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 7 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 8 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 8 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 4 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 7 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 8 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 7 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 11 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 12 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 9 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 23 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 12 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 13 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 9 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 12 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 15 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 10 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 14 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 7 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 7 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 8 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 4 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 10000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 5 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 5 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 5 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 1 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 12 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 8 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 4 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 8 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 4 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb CAP engaged: 452 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 14000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes 261 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 13000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 16000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 16000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 12000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes Zuikaku-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 12000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes Ryujo-1 with A6M5b Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 16000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes Junyo-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 14000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 14000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes Zuiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 16000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes Ryuho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 3 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 38000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 13000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes Taiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 2 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 38000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes Unryu-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 11000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes Taiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 11000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes Unyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 14000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes Chuyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 13000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes Shinyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 11000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes Kaiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 6000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes S-603 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 38000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVL Nisshin Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Junyo Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVL Ryuho Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Taiho Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVL Zuiho Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Unryu Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Okinami Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVL Mizuho Heavy smoke from fires obscuring a Japanese PG Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Aogumo Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Samidare Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Hagikaze Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Shinyo Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Nowaki Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVL Chiyoda Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL Abukuma Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Katsutade Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL Yubari Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Hayanami Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Tadeshiwa -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Puerto Princesa at 71,79 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 54 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 47 A6M5b Zero x 11 Allied aircraft Hellcat I x 12 F6F-3 Hellcat x 76 TBF-1 Avenger x 34 TBM-1C Avenger x 4 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed A6M5b Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged Japanese Ships DD Katsutade, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk DD Nowaki, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk Aircraft Attacking: 4 x TBM-1C Avenger bombing from 6000 feet * Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 4 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet * Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 5 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet * Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 4 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet * Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 6 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet * Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 4 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet * Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb 5 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet * Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 2 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet * Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 2 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet * Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb CAP engaged: 452 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 17000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes 261 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 14000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 16000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 54 minutes 3 planes vectored on to bombers Ryujo-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 16000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes 2 planes vectored on to bombers Junyo-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 18000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 61 minutes 2 planes vectored on to bombers Taiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 38000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes Unryu-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 16000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes Kaiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 18000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes 2 planes vectored on to bombers Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 16000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 18000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes Zuikaku-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 18000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 14000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes 2 planes vectored on to bombers Zuiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 16000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes Taiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes Unyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes 1 planes vectored on to bombers Chuyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 17000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes Shinyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 13000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes 1 planes vectored on to bombers S-603 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 14000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Katsutade Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Nowaki the 350 Hellcats of the first wave were only able to reduce the Cap by around 50% (and this only with Zekes running out of fuel, ammo or having technical breakdowns) so the next wave to show up still encountered 58 enemy fighters but that´s nothing in terms of the numbers we´re speaking at this stage of the war... the Hellcats did better this time, the dive at least ended for the Zekes at some point to end in a pretty even matched fight in the end... we attacked the same carrier TFs again but fail to locate any carriers as they´ve all went down already so the bombers attacked two DDs an sink them... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 32 minutes Allied aircraft B-25H Mitchell x 79 P-38J Lightning x 67 P-51B Mustang x 13 PV-1 Ventura x 48 Allied aircraft losses B-25H Mitchell: 2 damaged PV-1 Ventura: 1 destroyed, 13 damaged Japanese ground losses: 5 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 30 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 75 Aircraft Attacking: 11 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 16 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb [X(][X(][X(] airfield attack? So where´s KB´s counterstrike? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 32 minutes Allied aircraft F4U-1A Corsair x 10 F6F-3 Hellcat x 20 PV-1 Ventura x 12 Allied aircraft losses PV-1 Ventura: 2 damaged Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 9 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 32 minutes Allied aircraft P-51B Mustang x 13 PV-1 Ventura x 12 Allied aircraft losses PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 5 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 8 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 5th JNAF Coy , at 82,82 (Legaspi) Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 100 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 375 casualties reported Squads: 4 destroyed, 4 disabled Non Combat: 17 destroyed, 28 disabled Engineers: 5 destroyed, 5 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 5th JNAF Coy , at 82,82 (Legaspi) Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 44 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged Japanese ground losses: 39 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 24 minutes Allied aircraft B-25H Mitchell x 12 P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 14 Allied aircraft losses B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 6 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Allied aircraft B-25H Mitchell x 9 P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 10 No Allied losses Runway hits 11 Aircraft Attacking: 9 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Pontianak , at 56,90 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 58 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-57-II Topsy: 6 destroyed on ground Airbase hits 21 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 120 Aircraft Attacking: 15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 13 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Pontianak , at 56,90 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 12 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-57-II Topsy: 1 destroyed on ground Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 16 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- strike after strike was launched from my airfields against enemy land targets and still no sign of KB´s bombers and the hundreds of enemy fighters that still have to be somewhere... or have they all been destroyed aboard the enemy´s carriers? to be continued as I have to head out now... [:D]

anarchyintheuk -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (2/25/2011 4:52:49 PM)
All I can say is "Wow!" both to the initial strike size and the subsequent arse kicking. I wonder if he fubared his orders.

kfsgo -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (2/25/2011 6:02:35 PM)
quote: the torpedo bombers are insanly... B A D... [8\|] 12 torpedo hits in the end out of 272 torpedoes dropped... 4.41% hit rate is not impressing, especially when you see dozens of torpedoes missing ships that already have suffered so many 1000lb bombs that they´re nothing else than floating wrecks. This again reminds me about how uber Japanese torpedo attacks are compared to US ones, the reason for it is beyond me, perhaps the MK13 has got so terrible stats compared to the Japanese 18 inch torp. All those torp bombers carrying torps had a torp skill of 70 and I´m sure pilots´s skill are treated the same for both sides. So what´s the deal with US torp attacks? Well, looking at the stats you've got differences in range (6000ft for the Mk. 13 vs 2000ft for the Type 91), accuracy (33 / 43) and dud rate (50 / 10; however, by 1944 the 50 will have been modified down to 10). So, it's presumably either range or accuracy. I don't know what the numbers would have looked like if you'd been carrying T-91s. I do wonder whether the longer range on the Mk. 13 leads to it being dropped earlier (trading a lower hit rate for presumably lower flak losses?) but it's nothing more than a guess.

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (2/27/2011 3:00:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kfsgo quote: the torpedo bombers are insanly... B A D... [8\|] 12 torpedo hits in the end out of 272 torpedoes dropped... 4.41% hit rate is not impressing, especially when you see dozens of torpedoes missing ships that already have suffered so many 1000lb bombs that they´re nothing else than floating wrecks. This again reminds me about how uber Japanese torpedo attacks are compared to US ones, the reason for it is beyond me, perhaps the MK13 has got so terrible stats compared to the Japanese 18 inch torp. All those torp bombers carrying torps had a torp skill of 70 and I´m sure pilots´s skill are treated the same for both sides. So what´s the deal with US torp attacks? Well, looking at the stats you've got differences in range (6000ft for the Mk. 13 vs 2000ft for the Type 91), accuracy (33 / 43) and dud rate (50 / 10; however, by 1944 the 50 will have been modified down to 10). So, it's presumably either range or accuracy. I don't know what the numbers would have looked like if you'd been carrying T-91s. I do wonder whether the longer range on the Mk. 13 leads to it being dropped earlier (trading a lower hit rate for presumably lower flak losses?) but it's nothing more than a guess. thanks for the info, guess it´s the accuracy then. Don´t notice any less flak against the torpedo bombers so it doesn´t seem the torps are dropped at three times the range the IJN drops theirs, though flak doesn´t seem to exist anyway. Even when we field the same skilled pilots we hardly get 25% of the hits the IJN land and carrier based super torpedo bombers achieve, no matter what date in the war.

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (2/27/2011 3:34:01 PM)
had no time lately to update the AAR but here we go again... here comes the IJN counterstrike... Morning Air attack on TF, near Balabac at 69,84 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 66 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 122 A6M5b Zero x 52 B6N1 Jill x 52 B6N2 Jill x 76 D4Y1 Judy x 53 D4Y2 Judy x 13 Allied aircraft Corsair II x 47 F6F-3 Hellcat x 519 [image]local://upfiles/13774/C9BA0DFBB5B645F5AD3EA9691A696B5E.jpg[/image] Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 6 destroyed B6N1 Jill: 16 destroyed, 14 damaged B6N2 Jill: 24 destroyed, 14 damaged D4Y1 Judy: 21 destroyed, 12 damaged D4Y2 Judy: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses Corsair II: 4 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed KB sends a meager strike against our carrier fleet but due to the fact that we didn´t expect the enemy to show up with his carriers we had a not so great Cap/escort ratio as we had the Cap ratio too low for our needs and at least two times too many Hellcats were escorting our main strike that only had to face 150 enemy fighters on Cap... seeing this strike, 66 min pre warning time and still 566 available fighters on Cap I was pretty confident though... clear sky was bad news though... I don´t know if the enemy failed to escort again and ended up on a ceiling sweep, I guess so because our fighters suffered initially from diving Zekes [8\|]... even though we outnumbered the enemy Cap 3:1 with our escorts, no a single Hellcat had the dive... thank god this was over quite soon, as was the fight against the enemy escorts and our fighters turned to attack the bombers... what really has been frightening during the replay was the fact that we started with only a couple of dozens fighters and the rest was only trickling in small packages of four fighters now and then... in total the replay never showed more than 150 fighters actually fighting vs the enemy [X(]... that was quite shocking and my face turned into [:@] as my 550+ fighters weren´t able to do much more than the enemy´s 150 on Cap despite having a 66 minute pre warning time... god damn, what were these fighters doing? my presentiment proved to become true when the replay switched over to bombing runs and exactly one hundred bombers were dropping their torpedoes and bombs... 100 enemy bombers in clear sky would mean bad news I thought... Allied Ships CVE Tulagi, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires CVE Manila Bay, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CVE Anzio CVE Natoma Bay CVE Suwannee, Bomb hits 1, on fire CV Yorktown CV Illustrious CVL Bataan CV Miami CV Boston CVE Hoggatt Bay CVE Gambier Bay CVE Fanshaw Bay CVE Ranee, Torpedo hits 1, on fire CVE Nehenta Bay, Torpedo hits 1 CVE Battler, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk BB Iowa, Bomb hits 1 CVE Kasaan Bay, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage CVE Santee, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires CVL San Jacinto, Torpedo hits 2 (one FOW) it took quite some painful minutes to watch this attack and even though also one of our fleet carrier TFs shows up here, around 85% of the bombers were attacking our slow CVEs... British CVE Battler was sunk with quite some Corsairs aboad while the other CVE that were hit are all still afloat... the CVE TF had a flak value of 5000+ but that didn´t mean much, the CV TFs got flak values around 12000 but I guess they also would be pretty much helpless if they would be targetted by lots of bombers, their higher speed probably would be more of an advantage over the CVE TFs than bristling with flak guns... if that´s the main strike then this is going to be a major victory for the USN but the day has just yet started... one thing is clear already, our Cap performance is going to be disappointing... the best thing against torpedo bombers is them attacking from bad directions, if the ships show their broadsides then they´re usually hit though... Aircraft Attacking: 7 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo 4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb 5 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb 6 x B6N1 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo 2 x D4Y2 Judy releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb 3 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb 7 x B6N1 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo 1 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb 8 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo 1 x B6N2 Jill bombing from 26000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 6 x B6N2 Jill bombing from 26000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 6 x B6N1 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo 1 x B6N1 Jill bombing from 26000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 1 x B6N2 Jill bombing from 26000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 2 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb 3 x B6N1 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo 3 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb 9 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo 5 x D4Y2 Judy releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb 4 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo 4 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo 2 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb 4 x D4Y2 Judy releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb 4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb 2 x B6N1 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo CAP engaged: VF-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 29000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 62 minutes VF-2 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 33000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 63 minutes 8 planes vectored on to bombers VF-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 32000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 55 minutes 8 planes vectored on to bombers VF-42 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 32000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers VF-8 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 30000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes 8 planes vectored on to bombers VF-9 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 8 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 29000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 62 minutes 12 planes vectored on to bombers VF-10 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 32000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes VF-11 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 32000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers VF-14 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 28000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes 8 planes vectored on to bombers VF-16 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 30000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 59 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers VF-18 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 32000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes VF-71 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 30000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers VF-22 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 25000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes VF-23 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 30000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 57 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers VF-24 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 26000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 57 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers VF-25 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 23000 and 30000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers VF-26 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 23000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes VF-27 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 27000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 54 minutes VF-28 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 27000 and 31000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes VF-29 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 26000 and 29000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Tulagi Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Santee

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (2/27/2011 3:47:38 PM)
Morning Air attack on TF, near Kudat at 69,86 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 66 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 42 B6N1 Jill x 25 D4Y2 Judy x 13 Allied aircraft Hellcat I x 7 F6F-3 Hellcat x 114 [image]local://upfiles/13774/CD5967376EF14DDE8FEF9FA6EF5B154C.jpg[/image] then the enemy sends a strike to attack our CVE TF covering the amphib TFs at Kudat unloading the troops there... splitting up the enemy´s strikes of course offers a big advantage and what is coming in here can be handled by our Cap that gets the dive from the first until the last moment in this engagement... first the escort were shred and then the Hellcats turned onto the bombers to take them out until the last enemy aircraft... now that was impressing... Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 14 destroyed B6N1 Jill: 15 destroyed D4Y2 Judy: 7 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed CAP engaged: VC(F)-21 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 30000 and 38800. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-39 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 28000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 54 minutes 5 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-41 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 37500 and 38000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 62 minutes 9 planes vectored on to bombers VOC(F)-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 28000 and 30000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes 5 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 26000 and 32000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 60 minutes 1 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-4 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 24000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-5 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 38800. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes 9 planes vectored on to bombers VRF-2F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 2 scrambling) 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 25000 and 37500. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes 7 planes vectored on to bombers VRF-4F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling) 4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 38800 and 41500. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 57 minutes 9 planes vectored on to bombers VRF-6F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling) 4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 41500. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 59 minutes 8 planes vectored on to bombers VRF-7F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 26000 and 41500. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes No.1839 Sqn FAA with Hellcat I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling) Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 29000 and 38800. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes 3 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-65 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling) 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 28000 and 38500. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes 3 planes vectored on to bombers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Kudat at 69,86 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 66 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 11 B6N2 Jill x 6 Allied aircraft Hellcat I x 4 F6F-3 Hellcat x 86 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed B6N2 Jill: 4 destroyed CAP engaged: VC(F)-21 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 32000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes 6 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-39 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 63 minutes 5 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-41 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 20000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 56 minutes 9 planes vectored on to bombers VOC(F)-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 31000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 54 minutes 5 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 31000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes 2 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-5 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 63 minutes 9 planes vectored on to bombers VRF-2F with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. 5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 37500. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 67 minutes 8 planes vectored on to bombers VRF-4F with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 32000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes 10 planes vectored on to bombers VRF-7F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 33000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes 6 planes vectored on to bombers No.1839 Sqn FAA with Hellcat I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 27000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-65 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 35000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes 5 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-4 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 30000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes 3 planes vectored on to bombers VRF-6F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 33000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes 8 planes vectored on to bombers the IJN really isn´t lucky with strike coordination today, probably too many high value targets screwed it up, even though the enemy nearly exclusively tried to attack our CVE TFs which are the easiest ones to attack so that shouldn´t be called bad luck... the CVE and amphib TFs were the preferred targets in the past for the enemy so he probably won´t complain about the targetting, the outcome of course already is a disaster this time... also this small strike is completely whiped out... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Puerto Princesa at 71,79 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 45 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 21 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 27 A6M5b Zero x 4 Allied aircraft TBF-1 Avenger x 18 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses TBF-1 Avenger: 6 destroyed CAP engaged: 452 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes 261 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 12000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes Ryujo-1 with A6M5b Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 16000 Raid is overhead Taiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 13000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes Kaiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 6000 Raid is overhead Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 14000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 16000 Raid is overhead Junyo-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 14000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 9000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes Zuiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 12000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 54 minutes Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 13000 Raid is overhead Unryu-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 13000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes Taiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 12000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes Unyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 13000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes Chuyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes Shinyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Raid is overhead enemy Cap was reduced by our main strike but the 380 escorting fighters weren´t able to completely knock out the 150 defending fighters so the squadrons that followed unescorted were shred... no single engined aircraft got any effect in terms of defensive fire of their rear gunner, no matter if Japanese or Allied, you could also mod these gun mounts out and increase the top speed of the bombers a bit, the gun mounts just got no effect, not even against Japanese paper fighters... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Puerto Princesa at 71,79 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 16 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 20 A6M5b Zero x 2 Allied aircraft Avenger II x 9 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Avenger II: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged Aircraft Attacking: 4 x Avenger II launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Mk XII Torpedo CAP engaged: 452 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 6000 Raid is overhead 261 Ku S-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 12000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes Taiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 16000 Raid is overhead Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes Junyo-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 4000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 16000 Raid is overhead Zuiho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters to 12000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 13000 Raid is overhead Unryu-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 5000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes Unyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 13000 Raid is overhead Chuyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes Kaiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 6000 Raid is overhead this strike came in alone too with four Brit Avengers making it through Cap when the launched their torps against an already sunk target... [&:] that´s it for the morning and it already turns out to become a major Allied victory, it seems to be the decisive battle but it´s going to be a decisive Japanese defeat...

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (2/27/2011 5:15:54 PM)
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Puerto Princesa at 71,79 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 52 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 42 [:D] A6M5b Zero x 22 [:D] Allied aircraft Corsair II x 13 F6F-3 Hellcat x 271 SB2C-1C Helldiver x 291 TBF-1 Avenger x 197 TBM-1C Avenger x 44 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed A6M5b Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Corsair II: 1 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 8 destroyed SB2C-1C Helldiver: 1 destroyed, 22 damaged TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed, 21 damaged TBM-1C Avenger: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged [image]local://upfiles/13774/DC3A1DD60320437CB8A482DF9A77DE65.jpg[/image] here we go with the first afternoon strike, the Allied are attacking first again... while around 400 aircraft less than our mega strike in the morning, we again launch a massive strike against at least two enemy carrier task forces... Cap over the enemy was laughable at that point but while outnumbered 5:1 in fighters, the enemy again had the never ending dive and took out some two dozen Hellcats plus a dozen of bombers for only 5 Zekes lost... we clearly win in numbers but in 1:1 performance the Japanese outperform us at least 3:1 which is more than amazing considering vastly superior material on our side plus 70 skilled pilots (the enemy probably still fields 50% of the elite fighter pilots he started the war with which could explain the performance)... Cap over KB wasn´t a factor at this point, bad weather was reported though which seems the only thing hindering our attack runs... with over 500 bombers attacking and a massive blow in the morning what could go wrong at this stage... Japanese Ships CVE Chuyo, Bomb hits 10, heavy fires CVE Kaiyo, Bomb hits 3, on fire CVE Taiyo, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage CV Hiryu, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires CV Soryu, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage CL Agano, Bomb hits 18, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Hatsuharu CL Noshiro, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires DD Nenohi, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires CVE Unyo, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires CVE Hosho, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Akizuki DD Hatsuzuki, Bomb hits 1, on fire CL Yahagi, Bomb hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Fujinami, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires DD Susuzuki CL Ninaru CL Tokachi, Bomb hits 2, on fire DD Teruzuki, Bomb hits 1, on fire DD Tamanami DD Onami, Bomb hits 1, on fire CL Teshio, Bomb hits 1, on fire DD Suzunami, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires the Helldivers were again doing the work, 250 highly skilled torpedo bombers (some bombing though) manage to achieve 3 laughable torp hits on already sinking ships... due to the weather and the fact that more than one third of the bombers were attacking enemy destroyers for whatever reason it wasn´t as much a massacre as in the morning but I expect another 2 CV and 4 CVE to be lost with more ships being damaged... as it stands now, it is going to turn out to be a major Japanese disaster... a pity we miss to catch the Zuikaku and her sister Shokaku TF with one of the main strikes... Aircraft Attacking: 10 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 17 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 5 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 18 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 6 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 18 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 15 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 7 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet 17 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 4 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet 7 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 12 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 20 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 13 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 18 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 6 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 18 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 6 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 18 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 5 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb 12 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 8 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 5 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 9 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 9 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 9 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 9 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 8 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 9 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 8 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 8 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo 8 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 2 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb 4 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet 5 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet 10 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 2 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet 8 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 4 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet 7 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 16 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 4 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet 11 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 7 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 7 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 4 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 7 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 4 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet 11 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 12 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 19 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 4 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 10 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb 11 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb 2 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 15000 feet 16 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 17 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 5 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 8 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 8 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb CAP engaged: Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 11000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes Zuikaku-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 14000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes Ryujo-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 13000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 9000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 13000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes Unryu-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes Taiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 12000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes Unyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 13000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes Chuyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 12000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes Kaiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 14000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Hiryu Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Soryu Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Taiyo Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL Agano Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Hosho Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Fujinami Heavy smoke from fires obscuring a Japanese CVL Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Unyo Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL Tokachi Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL Noshiro Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Kaiyo Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Chuyo Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CL Yahagi -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Puerto Princesa at 71,79 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 54 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 19 A6M5b Zero x 11 Allied aircraft Hellcat I x 9 F6F-3 Hellcat x 77 TBF-1 Avenger x 21 TBM-1C Avenger x 2 Japanese aircraft losses No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed Japanese Ships CVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Hatsuzuki, on fire CV Soryu, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage CV Hiryu, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage CL Agano, and is sunk DD Hatsuharu Aircraft Attacking: 4 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet * Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 3 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet * Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 3 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet * Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 4 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet * Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 4 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet * Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 2 x TBM-1C Avenger bombing from 6000 feet * Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 2 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet * Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 1 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet * Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb CAP engaged: Soryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 17000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes Hiryu-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 16000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 12000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes Zuikaku-1 with A6M5b Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 17000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes Ryujo-1 with A6M5b Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 16000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 59 minutes Taiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 14000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes Hosho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 13000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes Unryu-1 with A6M5b Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 17000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes Chuyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 13000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes Kaiyo-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 17000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes Heavy smoke from fires obscuring a Japanese CVL Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Soryu Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Hiryu a small follow on strike completes the work on CVL Ryujo while Hiryu and Soryu were in sinking condition anyway... in bombing mode the TBF/TBM are far better than attacking with torps as this attack proves again, I am going to use halve of them with bombs in future, I doubt we will have a lot of anti shipping strikes in this game in future though...

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (3/2/2011 3:30:32 PM)
Haven´t had enough time lately to go on with the AAR, hope to catch up normal pace soon again... so here´s the rest of the carrier clash, it´s time for the IJN´s final counter strike in the afternoon... Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kudat at 69,86 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 28,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 66 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 24 A6M5b Zero x 27 B6N1 Jill x 34 B6N2 Jill x 33 Allied aircraft Hellcat I x 11 F6F-3 Hellcat x 114 [image]local://upfiles/13774/60BFB81E58A04D60A8F697EC18FAF153.jpg[/image] Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 5 destroyed A6M5b Zero: 2 destroyed B6N1 Jill: 16 destroyed, 2 damaged B6N2 Jill: 17 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Hellcat I: 1 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CVE Barnes CVE Kalinin Bay CVE Begum Aircraft Attacking: 1 x B6N1 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo 2 x B6N1 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo CAP engaged: No.1839 Sqn FAA with Hellcat I (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 23000 and 26000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 58 minutes VC(F)-21 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 30000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-39 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 29000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-41 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 27000 and 29000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes 3 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-65 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 27000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 61 minutes 1 planes vectored on to bombers VOC(F)-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 27000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes 5 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 25000 and 27000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes 7 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-4 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 21000 and 30000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 59 minutes 7 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-5 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 25000 and 30000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers VRF-2F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 21000 and 24000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes 8 planes vectored on to bombers VRF-4F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 27000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 54 minutes 9 planes vectored on to bombers VRF-6F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 24000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes 12 planes vectored on to bombers VRF-7F with F6F-3 Hellcat (2 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 24000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes 7 planes vectored on to bombers just like in the morning, parts of KB´s strike aircraft attack our CVE TF at Kudat and just like in the morning, the 125 fighters there perform better than the hundreds of fighters of our main CV fleet further North... the incoming strike is completely shot up, never ending dive against the escorts and all but three bombers shot down by the Cap... the CVE´s Cap at Kudat nearly performed WITP like, while the Cap over the main fleet acted AE like... engagements in both hexes seem reasonable to me while the one like this one above is pretty near the edge... what I found off was the absolutely inability of 70 torp skilled USN torpedo bombers to achieve torp hits on ships in sinking condition and the fact that 150 Zekes get the never ending dive against 2.5 times more Hellcats on escort with the Hellcats losing 5:1... this isn´t reasonable to me, while explainable in the game: the stupid never ending dive... in total, I would rate the whole carrier engagement as playing out far better than WITP though, so I shouldn´t complain about the whole in this case... in WITP, I guess my Cap would have been 100% bullet prove, which is as stupid (or even more) than the never ending dive... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kudat at 69,86 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 66 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 11 B6N2 Jill x 24 Allied aircraft Hellcat I x 4 F6F-3 Hellcat x 85 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 5 destroyed B6N2 Jill: 14 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed CAP engaged: No.1839 Sqn FAA with Hellcat I (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 26000 and 32000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 45 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-21 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 21000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-65 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 33000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes 3 planes vectored on to bombers VOC(F)-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 13000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 64 minutes 5 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 7 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 33000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 53 minutes 8 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-5 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 33000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes 6 planes vectored on to bombers VRF-4F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 31000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 65 minutes 5 planes vectored on to bombers VRF-6F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 32000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes 14 planes vectored on to bombers VRF-7F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 33000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 60 minutes 9 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-39 with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. 4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 6000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes 3 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-41 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 33000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes 1 planes vectored on to bombers VC(F)-4 with F6F-3 Hellcat (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 6 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Raid is overhead 4 planes vectored on to bombers VRF-2F with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 23000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 63 minutes 9 planes vectored on to bombers another wave attacking the CVEs at Kudat but the Cap is doing it´s job again... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Balabac at 69,84 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 66 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 30 A6M5b Zero x 11 B6N1 Jill x 15 B6N2 Jill x 37 D4Y1 Judy x 14 Allied aircraft Corsair II x 21 F6F-3 Hellcat x 441 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 8 destroyed A6M5b Zero: 1 destroyed B6N1 Jill: 8 destroyed B6N2 Jill: 22 destroyed D4Y1 Judy: 7 destroyed CAP engaged: No.834 Sqn-FF-1 FAA with Corsair II (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 56 minutes 1 planes vectored on to bombers VF-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 25000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 61 minutes 20 planes vectored on to bombers VF-2 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 28000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 58 minutes 20 planes vectored on to bombers VF-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 8 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 29000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 63 minutes 20 planes vectored on to bombers VF-42 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 30000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 60 minutes 20 planes vectored on to bombers VF-8 with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 28000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes 23 planes vectored on to bombers VF-9 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 27000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes 16 planes vectored on to bombers VF-10 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 15 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 30000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes 22 planes vectored on to bombers VF-11 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 30000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes 16 planes vectored on to bombers VF-14 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 15 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 31000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes 11 planes vectored on to bombers VF-16 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 16 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 32000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 61 minutes 20 planes vectored on to bombers VF-18 with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 15 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 30000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 58 minutes 22 planes vectored on to bombers VF-71 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 13 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 28000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes 19 planes vectored on to bombers VF-22 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 30000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 61 minutes 12 planes vectored on to bombers VF-23 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 29000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes 9 planes vectored on to bombers VF-24 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 27000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes 11 planes vectored on to bombers VF-25 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 26000 and 28000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes 13 planes vectored on to bombers VF-26 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 28000 and 31000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 53 minutes 11 planes vectored on to bombers VF-27 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 1 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes VF-28 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 29000 and 30000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 61 minutes 11 planes vectored on to bombers and to end this insane turn, here´s the last wave that attacks our main fleet North of Kudat... the strike gets completely whiped out as the fighter coordination immediately sent more fighters towards the bombers than there were bombers to shoot down... what a turn... [8D]

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (3/2/2011 4:05:16 PM)
so let´s have a look at what happened today, together with the info I received from Rainer the "why" this happened is pretty clear. Like he has tried earlier, he wanted to take advantage of the Japanese 8 hex strike ability to move in, launch a strike, clobber our CVE or amphib fleet while staying 1 hex outside of our carrier fleet´s strike range... but three things apparently went wrong this time: a) while I always staid one hex off the CVE and amphib fleet with all the fleet carriers, this time I had two hex distance as I didn´t fear any LBA strikes that could only aim at the "invasion hex" (without using patrol aircraft to spot the CV fleet) because this time the "invasion hex" was my own base, which leads to... even if you become predictable by going with the same "routines" all the time, the moment you do something different can become a really nasty surprise for the enemy... b) I guess Rainer thought I would go directly for Jesselton with the ampib TF because when you look at the screenshots, the IJN BB fleet (and therefore the carriers too) were ordered to a position eight hexes NE of Jesselton... c) as the third screw up today was the enemy fleet´s nav search spotting my carriers and KB reacting one hex towards them so these three things went wrong today and led to a 100% disaster for the IJN as we top any real life carrier engagement in both numbers involved and numbers of carriers sunk in one battle... while I mentioned it quite a couple of times that the time when the Japanese should have tried their decisive battle seems to long have passed, having had KB intact always meant a threat to everything that I wouldn´t escort with our mightly fleet outside our powerful LBA... and the next chance to use KB would have been when we attack the Philipines to land on the main island when there are several huge airfields around Manila that could be filled up with 2000 enemy aircraft to be released, followed by KB on day two or even better day three (one problem with this plan of course would be our tactic to never unload longer than one day in a threatened area)... but using KB in this area where Japanese LBA plays no role at all (Brunei and Miri are trashed) and misinterpreting our move of course has to lead to a massacre, no matter how much good or bad luck either side has because we just had by far too many carriers to see a positive outcome for the Japanese... here are the air losses: [image]local://upfiles/13774/57C0FFB376604ADAA04448ABA34D877A.jpg[/image] while the Allied losses are not affected (?) by FOW (guess I should get the exact losses?) the Japanese are and I doubt they have lost that many aircraft. My estimation would be something like 500 aircraft destroyed at a ratio of 2:1 bombers/fighters, so probably many elite fighter pilots the Japanese start with are still alive... they lost their carriers though... [;)] if we leave FOW aside, then the enemy has lost 180+ Zekes while we have lost 150+ Hellcats/Corsairs which dramatically displays the unparity in fighter performance today, mostly happening due to our first mega strike against KB when our 350+ fighters were chopped to pieces by some 150+ enemy fighters on Cap which is something I fail to understand (except the routine being off here - due to the mega penalty escorts get and the mega advantage the dive gets)... outnumbering the enemy fighters around 5:1 in total today, having nearly a 1:1 loss rate is depressing, considering us having superior aircraft and pilots trained to the max... We have lost around four dozen 70 skilled fighter pilots but very few bomber pilots of escorted strikes... the unescorted piece meal strikes were shot down in droves, even by a meager Cap and those of course suffered horrendous pilot losses too... horrendous due to the reason that it takes S I X months to train a carrier based torpedo bomber pilot (3 months to each 70 navbomb, another 3 months to reach 70 torp)... in comparison, the Helldiver pilots only need 3 months as navbomb is all they need... if you then watch hundreds of torp bombers missing ships that are lying dead in the water you can only start to cry as this just can´t be right when on the other hand a handful of Betties, Nells, Francis, Kate, Jills or whatever other IJNAF torp bomber put holes in your ships at nearly all ocassions, with the IJN torp being so much superior probably the only reason for this as our pilots are just as trained as all the IJNAF pilots (except the elite pilots they get at the start of course)... I would rate the Japanese torp bombers 3-4 times more effective than USN ones, therefore every follow on game will see my USN torp bombers being in level bombing mode at 6000ft mostly... in this game it doesn´t really matter much anymore because the enemy CV fleet is trashed... I´ve told Rainer that I estimate my carrier fleet strenght (without all my CVE) being 4 times stronger now than all CV, CVL, CVE together that are left for his Navy and got the reply that he still has 6 "carriers" so still something to be reckoned with... we completely missed Shokaku, Zuikaku in the engagement, Akagi and Kaga probably still are in a shipyard in Japan which leaves another two carriers of unknown class, perhaps an Unryu and another CVL somewhere... for sure, the enemy won´t field more than 400 carrier based aircraft if he´s able to bring all his carriers together and such a force isn´t even a real threat to two of my CVE TFs (2x13 CVE) as such a CVE group is going to field around 500 fighters...

crsutton -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (3/2/2011 4:23:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: castor troy so let´s have a look at what happened today, together with the info I received from Rainer the "why" this happened is pretty clear. Like he has tried earlier, he wanted to take advantage of the Japanese 8 hex strike ability to move in, launch a strike, clobber our CVE or amphib fleet while staying 1 hex outside of our carrier fleet´s strike range... but three things apparently went wrong this time: a) while I always staid one hex off the CVE and amphib fleet with all the fleet carriers, this time I had two hex distance as I didn´t fear any LBA strikes that could only aim at the "invasion hex" (without using patrol aircraft to spot the CV fleet) because this time the "invasion hex" was my own base, which leads to... even if you become predictable by going with the same "routines" all the time, the moment you do something different can become a really nasty surprise for the enemy... b) I guess Rainer thought I would go directly for Jesselton with the ampib TF because when you look at the screenshots, the IJN BB fleet (and therefore the carriers too) were ordered to a position eight hexes NE of Jesselton... c) as the third screw up today was the enemy fleet´s nav search spotting my carriers and KB reacting one hex towards them so these three things went wrong today and led to a 100% disaster for the IJN as we top any real life carrier engagement in both numbers involved and numbers of carriers sunk in one battle... while I mentioned it quite a couple of times that the time when the Japanese should have tried their decisive battle seems to long have passed, having had KB intact always meant a threat to everything that I wouldn´t escort with our mightly fleet outside our powerful LBA... and the next chance to use KB would have been when we attack the Philipines to land on the main island when there are several huge airfields around Manila that could be filled up with 2000 enemy aircraft to be released, followed by KB on day two or even better day three (one problem with this plan of course would be our tactic to never unload longer than one day in a threatened area)... but using KB in this area where Japanese LBA plays no role at all (Brunei and Miri are trashed) and misinterpreting our move of course has to lead to a massacre, no matter how much good or bad luck either side has because we just had by far too many carriers to see a positive outcome for the Japanese... here are the air losses: [image]local://upfiles/13774/57C0FFB376604ADAA04448ABA34D877A.jpg[/image] while the Allied losses are not affected (?) by FOW (guess I should get the exact losses?) the Japanese are and I doubt they have lost that many aircraft. My estimation would be something like 500 aircraft destroyed at a ratio of 2:1 bombers/fighters, so probably many elite fighter pilots the Japanese start with are still alive... they lost their carriers though... [;)] if we leave FOW aside, then the enemy has lost 180+ Zekes while we have lost 150+ Hellcats/Corsairs which dramatically displays the unparity in fighter performance today, mostly happening due to our first mega strike against KB when our 350+ fighters were chopped to pieces by some 150+ enemy fighters on Cap which is something I fail to understand (except the routine being off here - due to the mega penalty escorts get and the mega advantage the dive gets)... outnumbering the enemy fighters around 5:1 in total today, having nearly a 1:1 loss rate is depressing, considering us having superior aircraft and pilots trained to the max... We have lost around four dozen 70 skilled fighter pilots but very few bomber pilots of escorted strikes... the unescorted piece meal strikes were shot down in droves, even by a meager Cap and those of course suffered horrendous pilot losses too... horrendous due to the reason that it takes S I X months to train a carrier based torpedo bomber pilot (3 months to each 70 navbomb, another 3 months to reach 70 torp)... in comparison, the Helldiver pilots only need 3 months as navbomb is all they need... if you then watch hundreds of torp bombers missing ships that are lying dead in the water you can only start to cry as this just can´t be right when on the other hand a handful of Betties, Nells, Francis, Kate, Jills or whatever other IJNAF torp bomber put holes in your ships at nearly all ocassions, with the IJN torp being so much superior probably the only reason for this as our pilots are just as trained as all the IJNAF pilots (except the elite pilots they get at the start of course)... I would rate the Japanese torp bombers 3-4 times more effective than USN ones, therefore every follow on game will see my USN torp bombers being in level bombing mode at 6000ft mostly... in this game it doesn´t really matter much anymore because the enemy CV fleet is trashed... I´ve told Rainer that I estimate my carrier fleet strenght (without all my CVE) being 4 times stronger now than all CV, CVL, CVE together that are left for his Navy and got the reply that he still has 6 "carriers" so still something to be reckoned with... we completely missed Shokaku, Zuikaku in the engagement, Akagi and Kaga probably still are in a shipyard in Japan which leaves another two carriers of unknown class, perhaps an Unryu and another CVL somewhere... for sure, the enemy won´t field more than 400 carrier based aircraft if he´s able to bring all his carriers together and such a force isn´t even a real threat to two of my CVE TFs (2x13 CVE) as such a CVE group is going to field around 500 fighters... Good analysis. It is a fine line holding KB back because there is some merit if forcing the Allied player to use mass and not split up operations. (A good reason why the Allies should not risk carriers in 42 as well) but there comes a certain point in the game where KB, no matter how strong becomes redundant. The Japanese player just can't wait forever because once that point is reached, KB is going to get smashed no matter the damaged dealt out to the Allies. Except in a unfavorable position, a good 8-10 Allied fleet carriers can probably fight and any untouched KB to a draw.

toselli -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (3/2/2011 6:34:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: castor troy so let´s have a look at what happened today, together with the info I received from Rainer the "why" this happened is pretty clear. Like he has tried earlier, he wanted to take advantage of the Japanese 8 hex strike ability to move in, launch a strike, clobber our CVE or amphib fleet while staying 1 hex outside of our carrier fleet´s strike range... but three things apparently went wrong this time: a) while I always staid one hex off the CVE and amphib fleet with all the fleet carriers, this time I had two hex distance as I didn´t fear any LBA strikes that could only aim at the "invasion hex" (without using patrol aircraft to spot the CV fleet) because this time the "invasion hex" was my own base, which leads to... even if you become predictable by going with the same "routines" all the time, the moment you do something different can become a really nasty surprise for the enemy... b) I guess Rainer thought I would go directly for Jesselton with the ampib TF because when you look at the screenshots, the IJN BB fleet (and therefore the carriers too) were ordered to a position eight hexes NE of Jesselton... c) as the third screw up today was the enemy fleet´s nav search spotting my carriers and KB reacting one hex towards them so these three things went wrong today and led to a 100% disaster for the IJN as we top any real life carrier engagement in both numbers involved and numbers of carriers sunk in one battle... while I mentioned it quite a couple of times that the time when the Japanese should have tried their decisive battle seems to long have passed, having had KB intact always meant a threat to everything that I wouldn´t escort with our mightly fleet outside our powerful LBA... and the next chance to use KB would have been when we attack the Philipines to land on the main island when there are several huge airfields around Manila that could be filled up with 2000 enemy aircraft to be released, followed by KB on day two or even better day three (one problem with this plan of course would be our tactic to never unload longer than one day in a threatened area)... but using KB in this area where Japanese LBA plays no role at all (Brunei and Miri are trashed) and misinterpreting our move of course has to lead to a massacre, no matter how much good or bad luck either side has because we just had by far too many carriers to see a positive outcome for the Japanese... here are the air losses: [image]local://upfiles/13774/57C0FFB376604ADAA04448ABA34D877A.jpg[/image] while the Allied losses are not affected (?) by FOW (guess I should get the exact losses?) the Japanese are and I doubt they have lost that many aircraft. My estimation would be something like 500 aircraft destroyed at a ratio of 2:1 bombers/fighters, so probably many elite fighter pilots the Japanese start with are still alive... they lost their carriers though... [;)] if we leave FOW aside, then the enemy has lost 180+ Zekes while we have lost 150+ Hellcats/Corsairs which dramatically displays the unparity in fighter performance today, mostly happening due to our first mega strike against KB when our 350+ fighters were chopped to pieces by some 150+ enemy fighters on Cap which is something I fail to understand (except the routine being off here - due to the mega penalty escorts get and the mega advantage the dive gets)... outnumbering the enemy fighters around 5:1 in total today, having nearly a 1:1 loss rate is depressing, considering us having superior aircraft and pilots trained to the max... We have lost around four dozen 70 skilled fighter pilots but very few bomber pilots of escorted strikes... the unescorted piece meal strikes were shot down in droves, even by a meager Cap and those of course suffered horrendous pilot losses too... horrendous due to the reason that it takes S I X months to train a carrier based torpedo bomber pilot (3 months to each 70 navbomb, another 3 months to reach 70 torp)... in comparison, the Helldiver pilots only need 3 months as navbomb is all they need... if you then watch hundreds of torp bombers missing ships that are lying dead in the water you can only start to cry as this just can´t be right when on the other hand a handful of Betties, Nells, Francis, Kate, Jills or whatever other IJNAF torp bomber put holes in your ships at nearly all ocassions, with the IJN torp being so much superior probably the only reason for this as our pilots are just as trained as all the IJNAF pilots (except the elite pilots they get at the start of course)... I would rate the Japanese torp bombers 3-4 times more effective than USN ones, therefore every follow on game will see my USN torp bombers being in level bombing mode at 6000ft mostly... in this game it doesn´t really matter much anymore because the enemy CV fleet is trashed... I´ve told Rainer that I estimate my carrier fleet strenght (without all my CVE) being 4 times stronger now than all CV, CVL, CVE together that are left for his Navy and got the reply that he still has 6 "carriers" so still something to be reckoned with... we completely missed Shokaku, Zuikaku in the engagement, Akagi and Kaga probably still are in a shipyard in Japan which leaves another two carriers of unknown class, perhaps an Unryu and another CVL somewhere... for sure, the enemy won´t field more than 400 carrier based aircraft if he´s able to bring all his carriers together and such a force isn´t even a real threat to two of my CVE TFs (2x13 CVE) as such a CVE group is going to field around 500 fighters... Castor, just a small comment on plane losses. The numbers you see divided by model are affected by FOW, but the total number you see in the intel report and on the right side of the screen (611 planes for Japan) is SPOT ON. I tested it many times and the number you see in the intel report is exactly right, even with FOW ON. If you use tracker you will also able to see the exact number of losses for each model. Jeffrey

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (3/3/2011 7:25:25 AM)
Hi Jeffrey thanks for this info, very much appreciated. As I´ve often seen more aircraft "type x" shot down than there even were in combat I´ve always thought the total losses would be FOW too as I´ve never summed up the losses of individual types.

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (3/3/2011 7:36:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crsutton quote: ORIGINAL: castor troy so let´s have a look at what happened today, together with the info I received from Rainer the "why" this happened is pretty clear. Like he has tried earlier, he wanted to take advantage of the Japanese 8 hex strike ability to move in, launch a strike, clobber our CVE or amphib fleet while staying 1 hex outside of our carrier fleet´s strike range... but three things apparently went wrong this time: a) while I always staid one hex off the CVE and amphib fleet with all the fleet carriers, this time I had two hex distance as I didn´t fear any LBA strikes that could only aim at the "invasion hex" (without using patrol aircraft to spot the CV fleet) because this time the "invasion hex" was my own base, which leads to... even if you become predictable by going with the same "routines" all the time, the moment you do something different can become a really nasty surprise for the enemy... b) I guess Rainer thought I would go directly for Jesselton with the ampib TF because when you look at the screenshots, the IJN BB fleet (and therefore the carriers too) were ordered to a position eight hexes NE of Jesselton... c) as the third screw up today was the enemy fleet´s nav search spotting my carriers and KB reacting one hex towards them so these three things went wrong today and led to a 100% disaster for the IJN as we top any real life carrier engagement in both numbers involved and numbers of carriers sunk in one battle... while I mentioned it quite a couple of times that the time when the Japanese should have tried their decisive battle seems to long have passed, having had KB intact always meant a threat to everything that I wouldn´t escort with our mightly fleet outside our powerful LBA... and the next chance to use KB would have been when we attack the Philipines to land on the main island when there are several huge airfields around Manila that could be filled up with 2000 enemy aircraft to be released, followed by KB on day two or even better day three (one problem with this plan of course would be our tactic to never unload longer than one day in a threatened area)... but using KB in this area where Japanese LBA plays no role at all (Brunei and Miri are trashed) and misinterpreting our move of course has to lead to a massacre, no matter how much good or bad luck either side has because we just had by far too many carriers to see a positive outcome for the Japanese... here are the air losses: [image]local://upfiles/13774/57C0FFB376604ADAA04448ABA34D877A.jpg[/image] while the Allied losses are not affected (?) by FOW (guess I should get the exact losses?) the Japanese are and I doubt they have lost that many aircraft. My estimation would be something like 500 aircraft destroyed at a ratio of 2:1 bombers/fighters, so probably many elite fighter pilots the Japanese start with are still alive... they lost their carriers though... [;)] if we leave FOW aside, then the enemy has lost 180+ Zekes while we have lost 150+ Hellcats/Corsairs which dramatically displays the unparity in fighter performance today, mostly happening due to our first mega strike against KB when our 350+ fighters were chopped to pieces by some 150+ enemy fighters on Cap which is something I fail to understand (except the routine being off here - due to the mega penalty escorts get and the mega advantage the dive gets)... outnumbering the enemy fighters around 5:1 in total today, having nearly a 1:1 loss rate is depressing, considering us having superior aircraft and pilots trained to the max... We have lost around four dozen 70 skilled fighter pilots but very few bomber pilots of escorted strikes... the unescorted piece meal strikes were shot down in droves, even by a meager Cap and those of course suffered horrendous pilot losses too... horrendous due to the reason that it takes S I X months to train a carrier based torpedo bomber pilot (3 months to each 70 navbomb, another 3 months to reach 70 torp)... in comparison, the Helldiver pilots only need 3 months as navbomb is all they need... if you then watch hundreds of torp bombers missing ships that are lying dead in the water you can only start to cry as this just can´t be right when on the other hand a handful of Betties, Nells, Francis, Kate, Jills or whatever other IJNAF torp bomber put holes in your ships at nearly all ocassions, with the IJN torp being so much superior probably the only reason for this as our pilots are just as trained as all the IJNAF pilots (except the elite pilots they get at the start of course)... I would rate the Japanese torp bombers 3-4 times more effective than USN ones, therefore every follow on game will see my USN torp bombers being in level bombing mode at 6000ft mostly... in this game it doesn´t really matter much anymore because the enemy CV fleet is trashed... I´ve told Rainer that I estimate my carrier fleet strenght (without all my CVE) being 4 times stronger now than all CV, CVL, CVE together that are left for his Navy and got the reply that he still has 6 "carriers" so still something to be reckoned with... we completely missed Shokaku, Zuikaku in the engagement, Akagi and Kaga probably still are in a shipyard in Japan which leaves another two carriers of unknown class, perhaps an Unryu and another CVL somewhere... for sure, the enemy won´t field more than 400 carrier based aircraft if he´s able to bring all his carriers together and such a force isn´t even a real threat to two of my CVE TFs (2x13 CVE) as such a CVE group is going to field around 500 fighters... Good analysis. It is a fine line holding KB back because there is some merit if forcing the Allied player to use mass and not split up operations. (A good reason why the Allies should not risk carriers in 42 as well) but there comes a certain point in the game where KB, no matter how strong becomes redundant. The Japanese player just can't wait forever because once that point is reached, KB is going to get smashed no matter the damaged dealt out to the Allies. Except in a unfavorable position, a good 8-10 Allied fleet carriers can probably fight and any untouched KB to a draw. yeah, the game is about numbers afterall and while using CV fleets (of both sides) like Rainer and I have done is rather unrealistic, since WITP I´ve always been saying "splitting your assets is splitting your chance of success". With that credo I have smacked a couple of players splitting KB in 42 for example. I couldn´t think of any chance for KB in a heads on engagement with my CV fleet (even hard without the 13 CVE I had with the fleet carriers) but the Japanese haven´t planned to attack my carriers anyway but the plan got screwed up. IMO KB like in the engagement above would be a match for 10 Essex CV though because that would mean only 400 Hellcats, if you send 160 on escort you end up with 240 max over your carriers and if you look at what got through my 500+ fighters you can say good bye to a couple of flattops because the IJN torp bombers bite. On the other hand, sending "only" 500 strike aircraft against KB probably would have meant 30-50% less damage done (depending on the weather, remember I had "clear sky") as you can´t rely on TBF/TBM carrying torps anyway. So while the floor was whiped in this turn, with "only" 10 carriers and bad weather perhaps, the enemy would have got away light with us taking more (probably far more) damage, ending in a draw perhaps. Not that it would really count in the game to lose a couple of carriers for the Allied, I still always try to keep damage at a minimum because I´m more thinking about real life and what it has meant for public to lose a BB or a CV, let alone four or five of these capital ships in one day. In the game the Allied player at times cheers when he sinks 6 IJN CV for 4 Allied CV but in real life 4 Allied CV lost would be quite a tragedy.

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (3/3/2011 12:32:45 PM)
Following the air losses, let´s have a look at the carriers. The enemy should have lost this: CV: Unryu, Junyo, Taiho, Hiryu, Soryu CVL: Nisshin, Mizuho, Ryuho, Zuiho, Chiyoda, Ryujo CVE: Shinyo, Chuyo, Kaiyo (probably), Taiyo, Unyo (probably), Hosho 4 CV, 6 CVL and 4 CVE plus two more probably sunk. Several other ships heavily damaged or sunk. The Allied have lost the British CVE Battler (carrying two dozen Corsair II which is a real pity to lose them) plus seven CVE and a CVL damaged. Two CVE were on the edge of sinking but managed to reach Tawi Tawi and could be saved so Battler was the only ship actually been lost. [:)] Counting up the sunk carriers, it looks less than what the replay has made me think because I´ve thought I´ve whiped out everything. On the other hand, with Shokaku, Zuikaku, Akagi and Kaga either not being attack or not with KB at all due to ongoing repairs, there were not that many more carriers available to be sunk I guess. I´m sure Rainer had all operational carriers in one basket for this attack. that´s how my damaged carriers looked like after the last bomb was dropped: [image]local://upfiles/13774/FC7F7D71C20E41438701EEF8EFA2F0DD.jpg[/image]

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (3/3/2011 12:40:02 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 27, 44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASW attack near Taytay at 72,79 Japanese Ships DD Hatsuharu DD Asashimo DD Hamanami DD Kiyonami Allied Ships SS Trespasser, hits 4 SS Trespasser is sighted by escort Trespasser diving deep .... DD Hatsuharu fails to find sub and abandons search DD Asashimo attacking submerged sub .... DD Hamanami fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Kiyonami fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Asashimo fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Hamanami fails to find sub and abandons search DD Kiyonami fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Asashimo fails to find sub and abandons search DD Kiyonami fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Kiyonami fails to find sub, continues to search... DD Kiyonami fails to find sub, continues to search... Escort abandons search for sub -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Taytay at 72,77 Japanese Ships CL Noshiro Allied Ships SS S-46 CL Noshiro is sighted by SS S-46 SS S-46 launches 4 torpedoes at CL Noshiro duds... [:@] the enemy fleet scattered and was spotted fleeing in all directions, we moved some subs into expected retreat paths... the only thing I´ve feared today was a strong enemy SAG to attack my fleet still unloading at Kudat but we had two SAGs there, both having two BB so I´ve decided to stay in place with our carriers moving slightly NE... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Cagayan , at 79,89 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 26 NM, estimated altitude 42,500 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 12 Allied aircraft Spitfire VIII x 2 P-38J Lightning x 2 P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 2 F4U-1A Corsair x 8 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 4 destroyed CAP engaged: VMF-111 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 30000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes VMF-113 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 30000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes VMF-115 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 30000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes VMF-121 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 30000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes VMF-216 with F4U-1A Corsair (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 30000 Raid is overhead VMF-222 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 30000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes VMF-311 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 30000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes VMF-441 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 30000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes No.452 Sqn RAF with Spitfire VIII (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 25000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes No.457 Sqn RAF with Spitfire VIII (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 25000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes 49th FG/7th FS with P-38J Lightning (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 31000 Raid is overhead 8th FG/36th FS with P-47D25 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 30000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes 15th FG/47th FS with P-38J Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 31000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes leaking Cap hits a Zeke sweep hard... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Iloilo , at 79,84 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 64 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 15 P-38J Lightning x 5 F4U-1A Corsair x 20 PV-1 Ventura x 24 Allied aircraft losses PV-1 Ventura: 5 damaged Airbase hits 8 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 39 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Iloilo , at 79,84 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 48 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 12 P-38J Lightning x 32 P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 28 PV-1 Ventura x 48 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged PV-1 Ventura: 7 damaged Airbase hits 10 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 78 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Port Arthur , at 99,44 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 29 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3a Zero x 7 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 6 Allied aircraft Liberator II x 10 Liberator B.III x 13 Liberator B.VI x 21 B-24D Liberator x 6 B-24D1 Liberator x 88 B-29-1 Superfort x 74 No Japanese losses No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 16 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Refinery hits 38 Airbase hits 23 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 119 Aircraft Attacking: 10 x Liberator II bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 10000 feet * City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 13 x Liberator B.III bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 10000 feet * City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 8 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 10 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 10 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 10 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb CAP engaged: S-311 Hikotai with A6M3a Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes 87th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes we keep on working on total destruction of Port Arthur´s refinery while keeping the airfield out of operation... the fighters on defense are LRCAP or leaking Cap... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Port Arthur , at 99,44 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3a Zero x 1 Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 2 Allied aircraft Liberator B.VI x 9 No Japanese losses No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 9 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 10000 feet * City Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb CAP engaged: 87th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes S-311 Hikotai with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Jesselton , at 68,86 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 41 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 30 P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 5 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged Airbase hits 3 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 40 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb many Japanese aircraft from the carriers diverted to Jesselton and other nearby Japanese bases when the flattops were bombed... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Jesselton , at 68,86 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 26 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed on ground A6M5b Zero: 1 destroyed on ground B6N1 Jill: 1 destroyed on ground D4Y1 Judy: 1 destroyed on ground Runway hits 54 Aircraft Attacking: 11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Jesselton , at 68,86 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 12 P-51B Mustang x 13 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 15 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Port Arthur , at 99,44 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Allied aircraft B-29-1 Superfort x 6 No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Port Arthur , at 99,44 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Allied aircraft B-29-1 Superfort x 6 Allied aircraft losses B-29-1 Superfort: 1 damaged Aircraft Attacking: 6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet City Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Iloilo , at 79,84 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 55 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 8 P-38J Lightning x 3 F6F-3 Hellcat x 20 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged Airbase hits 3 Runway hits 14 Aircraft Attacking: 8 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Port Arthur , at 99,44 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Allied aircraft B-24D1 Liberator x 4 No Allied losses Runway hits 8 Aircraft Attacking: 4 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Kudat , at 69,86 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 22 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-67-Ia Peggy x 29 [X(] Allied aircraft Hellcat I x 8 F6F-3 Hellcat x 175 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-67-Ia Peggy: 17 destroyed CAP engaged: VF-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes VF-2 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Raid is overhead VF-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes VF-8 with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Raid is overhead VF-9 with F6F-3 Hellcat (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Raid is overhead VF-10 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes VF-14 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes VF-16 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes VF-71 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes VF-23 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Raid is overhead No.1839 Sqn FAA with Hellcat I (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 9000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes VC(F)-21 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 13000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes VC(F)-33 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes VC(F)-39 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 5000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes VC(F)-41 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 6000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes VC(F)-63 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 12000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes VC(F)-68 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 6000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes VOC(F)-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes VC(F)-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 5000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes VC(F)-4 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes wow, a Peggy strike shows up unescorted, Rainer said he hoped to be lucky and catch some ships at Kudat... not as long as my CVE fleet is sitting there... even leaking Cap from the fleet carriers three hexes away shows up... all Peggies were shot down, even though not as many as the intel screen shows of course... [image]local://upfiles/13774/F77F32D194224496BB9AB2748C45306C.jpg[/image]

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (3/9/2011 2:02:53 PM)
am really struggling lately to update the AAR while the game is moving forward with the normal speed... the 28th saw another intense turn... AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 28, 44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Samah at 73,70 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Allied aircraft PB4Y-1 Liberator x 4 Allied aircraft losses PB4Y-1 Liberator: 2 damaged Japanese Ships xAK Cuba Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 4 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb our patrol aircraft picked up lots of traffic in the South China Sea and we start off with some small numbers of USN Liberators attacking shipping... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Quinhon at 70,70 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 16 minutes Allied aircraft PB4Y-1 Liberator x 4 Allied aircraft losses PB4Y-1 Liberator: 1 damaged Japanese Ships xAK Kuroshio Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage Japanese ground losses: 67 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 15 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Vehicles lost 3 (2 destroyed, 1 disabled) Aircraft Attacking: 4 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb that´s what I love to see, unfortunately only 15% of the available bombers attacked this TF... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Iba at 71,75 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 43 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M3a Zero x 29 N1K1-J George x 36 Allied aircraft Corsair II x 15 F6F-3 Hellcat x 297 Japanese aircraft losses A6M3a Zero: 15 destroyed N1K1-J George: 12 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Corsair II: 1 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 7 destroyed due to having had so many sightings yesterday I´ve decided to use the fleet carriers for a raid a bit deeper into the South China Sea which of course also brought me into range of enemy aircraft on the Philipines (9 hexes to Manila which is the enemy´s main airfield there). The enemy carriers are no threat anymore but going closer to several big airfields of course posed a serious threat, depending on the number of aircraft set to attack there. My main concern was the number of fighters on Cap over my carriers as I expected many of them heading out to escort the bombers as I refuse to use Cap settings that cause 50+ fatigue within one or two days and have "forgotten" to shorten the range of 70% of the fighters - in fact, it´s just too much work to do so when you´ve got dozens of carriers in a hex and have to give orders to every squadron on them... same as we´ve seen earlier, the enemy starts off with sweeps as these escorts fail to meet up with the bombers... none of them were set to ceiling "escorts" and so they came in at 6000ft and were bounced by our Cap that shred the whole strike, not without over a dozen Allied fighters shot down though... no matter which settings you use, the whole strike routine is bullocks, the enemy would have been better off setting everything to max alt instead of trying to set them to the same alt as the bombers while failing just as often... bullocks... [8\|] CAP engaged: VF-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes VF-2 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling) 14 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes VF-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes VF-42 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes VF-8 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 13 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes VF-9 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 6 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes VF-10 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 13 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes VF-11 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling) 12 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes VF-14 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 13 on standby, 0 scrambling) 13 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 8000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes VF-16 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 13 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes VF-18 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 13 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 38800. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes VF-71 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes VF-22 with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes VF-23 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes VF-24 with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes VF-25 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 11000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes VF-26 with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes VF-27 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 1 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes VF-28 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes VF-29 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 8 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 5000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Iba at 71,75 Weather in hex: Severe storms Raid detected at 200 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 58 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 22 Ki-21-IIb Sally x 11 Allied aircraft Corsair II x 14 F6F-3 Hellcat x 260 [image]local://upfiles/13774/6D5FADEFAD804D678942A2EFCC9FEB8B.jpg[/image] Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 12 destroyed Ki-21-IIb Sally: 6 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed following the Zeke/George sweep the bomber strike shows up with some outdated A6M2 (don´t know if the enemy is really short of advanced airframes or if he´s so restricted with his upgrade paths - PDU is on btw)... neither the escorts nor the bombers had a chance... so far so good, expected far bigger and much more dangerous strikes... neither our carriers nor the enemy airfields launched any strikes in the morning and that´s all that was coming from the Philipines... amazing as the 300 Cap surely wouldn´t be a vacuum cleaner of incoming strikes... CAP engaged: VF-2 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 13 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 30000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes 16 planes vectored on to bombers VF-3 with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. 8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 54 minutes 16 planes vectored on to bombers VF-42 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling) 6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes 9 planes vectored on to bombers VF-8 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 13000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 54 minutes 19 planes vectored on to bombers VF-9 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 31000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 55 minutes 17 planes vectored on to bombers VF-10 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 38800. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes 12 planes vectored on to bombers VF-11 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 31000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes 13 planes vectored on to bombers VF-14 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes 10 planes vectored on to bombers VF-16 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 13 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 15000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes 13 planes vectored on to bombers VF-18 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling) 8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 9000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes 13 planes vectored on to bombers VF-71 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) 8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 33000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes 17 planes vectored on to bombers VF-22 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 13000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes 8 planes vectored on to bombers VF-23 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 33000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes 7 planes vectored on to bombers VF-24 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 5000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes 9 planes vectored on to bombers VF-25 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 38800. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers VF-26 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 8000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes 8 planes vectored on to bombers VF-27 with F6F-3 Hellcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes 3 planes vectored on to bombers VF-28 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 31000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes 5 planes vectored on to bombers VF-29 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 9000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 62 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers No.881 Sqn FAA with Corsair II (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 33000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes 4 planes vectored on to bombers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Samah at 73,70 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 14 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Allied aircraft PB4Y-1 Liberator x 12 Allied aircraft losses PB4Y-1 Liberator: 3 damaged Japanese Ships xAK Teisen Maru, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Ryuyo Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 4 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 4 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 4 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Tarakan , at 67,91 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 16 minutes Allied aircraft F4U-1A Corsair x 17 F6F-3 Hellcat x 40 PV-1 Ventura x 24 Allied aircraft losses PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged Airbase hits 6 Airbase supply hits 6 Runway hits 17 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Tarakan , at 67,91 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 16 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft F4U-1A Corsair x 7 PV-1 Ventura x 48 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses PV-1 Ventura: 9 damaged Japanese ground losses: 5 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 4 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 53 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Babeldaob , at 90,97 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 122 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 6 damaged Japanese ground losses: 10 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 27 Airbase supply hits 6 Runway hits 142 Port hits 8 Port fuel hits 4 Port supply hits 2 Aircraft Attacking: 16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb will take another three or four weeks until our reinforcements got enough preparation to be thrown into the fight here... until then, we have to fly these supression attacks... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Babeldaob , at 90,97 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 28 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged Airbase hits 7 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 38 Aircraft Attacking: 16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Tarakan , at 67,91 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Allied aircraft B-25H Mitchell x 12 P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 14 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 5 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 5 Runway hits 13 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Tarakan , at 67,91 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Allied aircraft B-25H Mitchell x 28 P-51B Mustang x 13 Allied aircraft losses B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged Airbase hits 4 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 29 Aircraft Attacking: 16 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Babeldaob , at 90,97 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 9 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged Runway hits 5 Aircraft Attacking: 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Babeldaob , at 90,97 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 11 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 1 destroyed Runway hits 10 Aircraft Attacking: 11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Tarakan , at 67,91 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid spotted at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Allied aircraft B-25H Mitchell x 33 P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 14 Allied aircraft losses B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged Airbase hits 7 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 38 Aircraft Attacking: 9 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Babeldaob , at 90,97 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 9 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 12 Aircraft Attacking: 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Tarakan , at 67,91 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 3 minutes Allied aircraft B-25H Mitchell x 12 No Allied losses Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 26 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb the usual dispersed "waves" that follow one big strike... for what reason ever... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Samah at 73,70 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Allied aircraft F6F-3 Hellcat x 46 SB2C-1C Helldiver x 60 TBF-1 Avenger x 36 Allied aircraft losses SB2C-1C Helldiver: 3 damaged TBF-1 Avenger: 1 damaged Japanese Ships xAK Teisen Maru, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk xAK Meiu Maru, Bomb hits 16, and is sunk xAK Yamabuki Maru, Bomb hits 14, and is sunk xAK Tamaki Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Nako Maru, Bomb hits 16, and is sunk xAK Oregon Maru, Bomb hits 15, and is sunk E W-14, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage TK Tamon Maru #15, Bomb hits 9, and is sunk PB Eiko Maru, Bomb hits 8, and is sunk PB Tatsumiya Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage xAK Ryuyo Maru, and is sunk PB Chitose Maru, Bomb hits 1 then the carriers finally launch a strike... no idea why no strike was flown in the morning and no idea why only this TF is attacked as there were at least two dozen more ships in other TFs in range and we´ve got hundreds of bombers ready... that convoy was hit hard though... Aircraft Attacking: 6 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 18 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 10 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 18 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 6000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 7 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 17 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 12 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb 8 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Meiu Maru Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Tamaki Maru Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Nako Maru Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Oregon Maru Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Yamabuki Maru Heavy smoke from fires obscuring TK Tamon Maru #15 Heavy smoke from fires obscuring PB Eiko Maru Heavy smoke from fires obscuring PB Tatsumiya Maru Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Ryuyo Maru Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Teisen Maru Heavy smoke from fires obscuring E W-14 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Babeldaob (90,97) Allied Bombardment attack Attacking force 43572 troops, 875 guns, 1094 vehicles, Assault Value = 1701 Defending force 45915 troops, 417 guns, 110 vehicles, Assault Value = 1324 Japanese ground losses: 38 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Assaulting units: 24th Infantry Division 763rd Tank Battalion 2nd USMC Amphb Tank Battalion 40th Infantry Division 5th USMC Tank Battalion 110th Combat Engineer Battalion 38th Infantry Division 43rd Infantry Division II Aus Corps Engineer Battalion 162nd USA Base Force 163rd USA Base Force 159th USA Base Force 181st USAAF Base Force 228th USN Base Force III US Amphib Corps 233rd USN Base Force 114th USAAF Base Force Defending units: Babeldoap Naval Fortress 12th Division 46th Division 4th Guards Division 8th Base Force 30th Special Base Force 60th Field AA Battalion 7th Air Division 22nd Special Base Force 45th JNAF AF Unit 25th JAAF AF Bn we´re going to throw another 1300 av onto the island, until then, no chance to achieve something... two lucky ground combat rounds and bringing in 4th Guards div bought Rainer at least three months here... the only major invasion that was stalled so far... that´s why I don´t like the island campaign through the Pacific, takes just too much time if you get stalled somewhere... and getting stalled on a single base island is easier than getting stalled on a big island with several bases as you usually at least have one port to easily unload further troops which isn´t possible if you only own a "bridgehead" and don´t have 100% prepped reinforcements...

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (3/9/2011 2:16:01 PM)
we lose two dozen+ carrier based fighters today but only a couple of pilots while we were able to take down something like 80 enemy aircraft with probably all pilots lost... [image]local://upfiles/13774/0A0C4D45BE9743DBB0E46BE34A7E731D.jpg[/image]

crsutton -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (3/9/2011 5:05:57 PM)
My campaign is in the last quarter of 1943 and I was looking over the surface reinforcements for the Allies. They sure get plenty-especially DDs. One thing I noted is that virtually every surface ship that comes into the game after 1/44 has a crew rating over 70 for both day and night. Some of them are closer to 80. No problem there. Yet, I have veteran DDs and CAs that have been fighting since 12/7/41 and some of them are still below 60. I can'f figure this one out. The crew exp levels on some of my old BBs just plain suck. Apparently, surviving the Pearl Harbor attack did little to educate these guys...[X(]

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (3/9/2011 5:14:16 PM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 29, 44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Cam Ranh Bay at 64,72, Range 12,000 Yards [image]local://upfiles/13774/ABF2CFBA792D44A9992269DA4DA6EAE3.jpg[/image] Japanese Ships PB Akagane Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage PB Chitose Maru #2, Shell hits 2 PB Senyo Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires xAKL Hinko Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage xAKL Miiko Maru, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage xAKL Nissen Maru #2, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage xAKL Nissyo Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage xAKL Saiko Maru, Shell hits 4, and is sunk xAKL Nittatsu Maru xAKL Shingetsu Maru, Shell hits 18, heavy fires, heavy damage xAKL Junpo Maru, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage Allied Ships CA Northampton CA Astoria CA Minneapolis CA Boston CL Denver CL Mobile DD Fletcher DD Ammen DD Bell DD Black DD Converse DD Dashiell DD Hall DD Heermann Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching! Japanese TF begins to get underway Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching! Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 50% moonlight: 11,000 yards Range closes to 28,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 28,000 yards Range closes to 26,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 26,000 yards Range closes to 24,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 24,000 yards Range closes to 22,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 22,000 yards Range closes to 20,000 yards... Range closes to 18,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 18,000 yards Range closes to 16,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 16,000 yards Range closes to 14,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 14,000 yards Range closes to 12,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 12,000 yards Allies open fire on surprised Japanese ships at 12,000 yards CA Boston fires at PB Senyo Maru at 12,000 yards CA Minneapolis fires at xAKL Miiko Maru at 12,000 yards CA Astoria fires at PB Akagane Maru at 12,000 yards CA Northampton fires at xAKL Junpo Maru at 12,000 yards CL Mobile fires at xAKL Shingetsu Maru at 12,000 yards CL Denver fires at xAKL Nissen Maru #2 at 12,000 yards CA Astoria fires at xAKL Nissyo Maru at 12,000 yards DD Dashiell fires at xAKL Nissyo Maru at 12,000 yards DD Converse fires at xAKL Miiko Maru at 12,000 yards DD Black fires at xAKL Hinko Maru at 12,000 yards DD Bell fires at xAKL Junpo Maru at 12,000 yards DD Ammen fires at xAKL Nissyo Maru at 12,000 yards DD Fletcher fires at xAKL Nissyo Maru at 12,000 yards Range closes to 10,000 yards CL Mobile engages PB Senyo Maru at 10,000 yards CL Mobile engages PB Chitose Maru #2 at 10,000 yards CA Boston engages PB Akagane Maru at 10,000 yards CA Northampton engages xAKL Junpo Maru at 10,000 yards CL Denver engages xAKL Nissen Maru #2 at 10,000 yards DD Heermann engages xAKL Saiko Maru at 10,000 yards DD Heermann engages xAKL Miiko Maru at 10,000 yards DD Black engages xAKL Nissen Maru #2 at 10,000 yards DD Bell engages xAKL Miiko Maru at 10,000 yards DD Ammen engages xAKL Shingetsu Maru at 10,000 yards Range closes to 7,000 yards CA Minneapolis engages PB Senyo Maru at 7,000 yards CA Minneapolis engages PB Chitose Maru #2 at 7,000 yards DD Black engages xAKL Junpo Maru at 7,000 yards CL Mobile engages xAKL Shingetsu Maru at 7,000 yards CL Denver engages xAKL Miiko Maru at 7,000 yards DD Heermann engages xAKL Shingetsu Maru at 7,000 yards DD Hall engages xAKL Nissen Maru #2 at 7,000 yards DD Dashiell engages xAKL Junpo Maru at 7,000 yards DD Converse engages xAKL Saiko Maru at 7,000 yards DD Fletcher engages xAKL Hinko Maru at 7,000 yards DD Bell engages xAKL Shingetsu Maru at 7,000 yards Range closes to 4,000 yards CA Boston engages PB Senyo Maru at 4,000 yards xAKL Saiko Maru sunk by CA Minneapolis at 4,000 yards CA Northampton engages PB Akagane Maru at 4,000 yards DD Dashiell engages xAKL Junpo Maru at 4,000 yards CA Astoria engages xAKL Shingetsu Maru at 4,000 yards DD Heermann engages xAKL Hinko Maru at 4,000 yards DD Hall engages xAKL Junpo Maru at 4,000 yards DD Dashiell engages xAKL Nissen Maru #2 at 4,000 yards DD Heermann engages xAKL Miiko Maru at 4,000 yards CA Boston engages xAKL Hinko Maru at 4,000 yards DD Fletcher engages PB Senyo Maru at 4,000 yards Range closes to 2,000 yards xAKL Shingetsu Maru sunk by CA Boston at 2,000 yards CA Minneapolis engages PB Akagane Maru at 2,000 yards Japanese Task Force Manages to Escape Task forces break off... we´ve dispatched a cruiser squadron from our carriers to bombard the place and engage ships if any show up... we meet one of the TFs that got away from being hit by our carriers and whipe the floor with the Japanese... long battle and lots of shells being fired, not sure the bombardment will have any effect... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Time Surface Combat, near Cam Ranh Bay at 64,72, Range 12,000 Yards Japanese Ships PB Akagane Maru, Shell hits 7, and is sunk PB Chitose Maru #2, Shell hits 12, and is sunk PB Senyo Maru, Shell hits 7, and is sunk xAKL Hinko Maru, Shell hits 11, and is sunk xAKL Miiko Maru, Shell hits 4, and is sunk xAKL Nissen Maru #2, Shell hits 11, and is sunk xAKL Nissyo Maru, Shell hits 31, and is sunk xAKL Nittatsu Maru, Shell hits 28, and is sunk xAKL Shingetsu Maru, and is sunk xAKL Junpo Maru, Shell hits 4, and is sunk Allied Ships CA Northampton CA Astoria CA Minneapolis CA Boston CL Denver CL Mobile DD Fletcher DD Ammen DD Bell DD Black DD Converse DD Dashiell DD Hall DD Heermann Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching! Japanese TF begins to get underway Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching! Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 50% moonlight: 11,000 yards Range closes to 28,000 yards... Range closes to 26,000 yards... Range closes to 24,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 24,000 yards Range closes to 22,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 22,000 yards Range closes to 20,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 20,000 yards Range closes to 18,000 yards... Range closes to 16,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 16,000 yards Range closes to 14,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 14,000 yards Range closes to 12,000 yards... CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 12,000 yards Allies open fire on surprised Japanese ships at 12,000 yards CA Boston fires at PB Senyo Maru at 12,000 yards CA Minneapolis fires at PB Chitose Maru #2 at 12,000 yards CA Boston fires at PB Akagane Maru at 12,000 yards xAKL Junpo Maru sunk by CA Northampton at 12,000 yards CA Northampton fires at xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 12,000 yards DD Heermann fires at xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 12,000 yards DD Dashiell fires at xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 12,000 yards CA Boston fires at xAKL Hinko Maru at 12,000 yards DD Fletcher fires at xAKL Hinko Maru at 12,000 yards Range closes to 10,000 yards CA Boston engages PB Senyo Maru at 10,000 yards CA Boston engages PB Chitose Maru #2 at 10,000 yards PB Senyo Maru sunk by CA Astoria at 10,000 yards DD Dashiell engages xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 10,000 yards DD Converse engages xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 10,000 yards DD Bell engages xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 10,000 yards DD Ammen engages xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 10,000 yards Range closes to 8,000 yards CA Boston engages PB Chitose Maru #2 at 8,000 yards PB Akagane Maru sunk by CA Boston at 8,000 yards DD Heermann engages xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 8,000 yards CA Northampton engages PB Chitose Maru #2 at 8,000 yards PB Chitose Maru #2 sunk by CL Mobile at 8,000 yards DD Ammen engages xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 8,000 yards Range closes to 4,000 yards CA Boston engages xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 4,000 yards CA Northampton engages xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 4,000 yards CL Mobile engages xAKL Nittatsu Maru at 4,000 yards xAKL Nittatsu Maru sunk by CL Denver at 4,000 yards DD Converse engages xAKL Nissyo Maru at 4,000 yards DD Bell engages xAKL Nissyo Maru at 4,000 yards Range closes to 2,000 yards xAKL Nissyo Maru sunk by CA Boston at 2,000 yards Range increases to 3,000 yards DD Converse engages xAKL Nissen Maru #2 at 3,000 yards xAKL Nissen Maru #2 sunk by CA Minneapolis at 3,000 yards xAKL Miiko Maru sunk by CA Boston at 3,000 yards xAKL Miiko Maru sunk by CA Boston at 3,000 yards Combat ends with last Japanese ship sunk... when the first encounter ended, nearly the whole TF was in sinking condition... then a second round starts and now everything is sunk... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Night Naval bombardment of Cam Ranh Bay at 64,72 - Coastal Guns Fire Back! Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses Ki-46-III Dinah: 2 destroyed on ground G4M1-L Betty: 1 destroyed on ground Ki-48-IIa Lily: 4 destroyed on ground A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed on ground H8K1 Emily: 3 destroyed on ground Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 3 destroyed on ground Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed on ground A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground 53 Coastal gun shots fired in defense. Allied Ships CA Boston CA Minneapolis CA Astoria, Shell hits 1 CA Northampton, Shell hits 2 CL Mobile CL Denver Japanese ground losses: 9 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 26 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 46 Port hits 1 SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA Boston CA Boston firing at Cam Ranh Bay CA Minneapolis firing at Cam Ranh Bay OS2U-3 Kingfisher acting as spotter for CA Astoria CA Astoria firing at Cam Ranh Fortress Cam Ranh Fortress firing at CA Astoria CA Northampton firing at Cam Ranh Fortress Cam Ranh Fortress firing at CA Northampton CL Mobile firing at Cam Ranh Bay CL Denver firing at Cam Ranh Bay followed by our bombardment that hits dozens of aircraft on the ground but is not as devastating as we´ve planned, the airfield stays operational... have ordered hundreds of long range fighters and heavy bombers to attack the place during the day... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Kudat at 69,86, Range 26,000 Yards Japanese Ships MTB G-1 MTB G-2 Allied Ships BB Nevada BB Oklahoma CA Chester CA Salt Lake City CL Boise DD Grayson DD Buchanan DD McCalla DD Meade DD Harding DD Baldwin DD Carmick DD Endicott DD Walke DD Morris Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 28,000 yards Range closes to 28,000 yards... Range closes to 26,000 yards... CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 26,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 26,000 yards Range closes to 24,000 yards Range closes to 23,000 yards Range closes to 22,000 yards Range closes to 21,000 yards Nomizo, H. orders Japanese TF to disengage Range increases to 22,000 yards BB Oklahoma engages MTB G-2 at 22,000 yards Range increases to 25,000 yards Range increases to 29,000 yards Task forces break off... the enemy now uses his PT boats... no effect... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Day Time Surface Combat, near Banggi at 69,85, Range 4,000 Yards Japanese Ships MTB G-1 MTB G-2 Allied Ships LCT-64 LCT-65 LCT-323 LCT-324 LCT-325 LCT-326 LCT-354 LCT-363 PT-239 PT-240 Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions: 6,000 yards CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 4,000 yards CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 4,000 yards Both TF attempt to withdraw! Range increases to 4,000 yards... Both Task Forces evade combat -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 14 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 25 Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 21 Ki-84a Frank x 27 Allied aircraft P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 22 [8\|] Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-47D25 Thunderbolt: 4 destroyed CAP engaged: 11th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 19 scrambling) 6 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 6000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes 50th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 16 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 36740 , scrambling fighters to 36000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes S-324 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 21 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 38000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes then we start our air attacks and it was the time to really get upset about this piss poor design that was called "enhanced strike routines to create more realistic air attacks"... [8\|] pff, what a fart... have ordered 150 fighters to sweep and as usual, the sweeps go in at squadron size while losng a fragment of three fighters each... also as usual, we then meet an enemy that has numerical superiority as radar again sends up everything that has not been damaged before... this design is just silly... you employ twice, three times, four times, five times or even more aircraft than the enemy but end up in a numerical disadvantage all the time because the design is bullocks... nothing more to say than this has nothing to do with realism, nothing... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 45,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 3 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 19 Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 12 Ki-84a Frank x 18 Allied aircraft P-38H Lightning x 21 [8\|] Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses P-38H Lightning: 1 destroyed CAP engaged: 11th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling) 15 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 35000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes 50th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling) 6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 36740 , scrambling fighters between 28000 and 36740. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes S-324 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling) 10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 38500. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes what is true for the P-47 of course also is true for the P-38... heck, where is the rest of the fighters? [8\|] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Saigon at 60,71 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 16 Ki-61-Ib Tony x 10 Allied aircraft PB4Y-1 Liberator x 10 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses PB4Y-1 Liberator: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged Japanese Ships AV Kamikawa Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire AV Sagara Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire Aircraft Attacking: 2 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb 3 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb CAP engaged: 64th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (7 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling) (4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 7 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 7000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes 246th Sentai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (4 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling) (4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 6000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 14 Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 6 Ki-84a Frank x 13 Allied aircraft Liberator II x 6 Liberator B.III x 15 Liberator B.VI x 27 B-24D Liberator x 9 B-24D1 Liberator x 47 B-29-1 Superfort x 70 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 6 damaged A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed on ground Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 6 damaged Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 8 destroyed on ground Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged Ki-84a Frank: 4 destroyed on ground Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground H8K1 Emily: 5 destroyed on ground Ki-48-IIa Lily: 7 destroyed on ground G4M1-L Betty: 7 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses Liberator B.III: 1 damaged B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged B-29-1 Superfort: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 4 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 27 Airbase supply hits 9 Runway hits 215 Aircraft Attacking: 7 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x Liberator II bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 14 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x Liberator B.III bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 7 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 8 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 10 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 10 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 10 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb CAP engaged: S-324 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters between 36000 and 41440. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 70 minutes 50th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling) 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 36740 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 38000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes 11th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 35000 and 42740. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes wow, it´s really stupid as it is... 150 fighters (6 full squadrons) set to sweep, major parts of two show up before the bombers... another four squadrons were set to escort, not a single fighter shows up with the bombers... out of 250 fighters, not even 50 manage to show up at a time to help out the bombers... S I L L Y by design... does it matter? no, of course not... why? because bombers alone perform better anyway than fighters would do... this is just crazy... go and play BoB bombing the Reich, then go back and try to design a working routine for WITP AE... as it is now, it´s nothing but a strange piece of crap... the more squadrons involved, the stranger it gets... what has been damaged by the cruisers during the night is now torched by the bombers... but the strike routine leaves me [sm=nono.gif] again... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 29 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 7 Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 5 Ki-84a Frank x 7 Allied aircraft Liberator II x 7 B-24D1 Liberator x 3 B-29-1 Superfort x 5 Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 damaged Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground Ki-84a Frank: 2 damaged H8K1 Emily: 1 destroyed on ground Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground Ki-48-IIa Lily: 1 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses Liberator II: 1 damaged B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged B-29-1 Superfort: 1 damaged Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 7 Aircraft Attacking: 7 x Liberator II bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 5 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb CAP engaged: S-324 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes 50th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 36740 , scrambling fighters to 8000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes 11th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 42740. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 60 minutes the oh so realistic strike routine then does with the bomber strikes what it always does, one huge strike is followed by lots of piece meal waves... yeah, pure realism... if WITP´s strikes were unrealistic, how can someone think this would be realistic? None of the books about airwar in WWII show anything coming close to how strikes, sweeps or escorts look like in the game... and no setting or anything else in the game would make it anywhere better... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 6 Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 4 Ki-84a Frank x 5 Allied aircraft Liberator B.VI x 7 [8\|] Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses Liberator B.VI: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged Aircraft Attacking: 5 x Liberator B.VI bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb CAP engaged: S-324 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes 50th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 36740 , scrambling fighters to 13000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes 11th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 5 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 6000 Raid is overhead -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 2 Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 1 Ki-84a Frank x 2 Allied aircraft B-24D1 Liberator x 8 [8\|] Japanese aircraft losses H8K1 Emily: 1 destroyed on ground Ki-48-IIa Lily: 1 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses B-24D1 Liberator: 4 damaged Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 2 Aircraft Attacking: 8 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb CAP engaged: 11th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes 50th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling) Group patrol altitude is 36740 , scrambling fighters to 7000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes S-324 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 38500 , scrambling fighters to 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 55 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Kuching , at 58,88 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 63 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-56 Thalia: 3 destroyed on ground Japanese ground losses: 12 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 22 Airbase supply hits 3 Runway hits 118 Aircraft Attacking: 15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb same with other strikes too of course... first the main strike... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Kuching , at 58,88 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 12 No Allied losses Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 24 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet * Airfield Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb then the rest... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M5 Zero x 1 Allied aircraft B-24D1 Liberator x 10 [8\|] Japanese aircraft losses A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses B-24D1 Liberator: 1 damaged Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 12 Aircraft Attacking: 7 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24D1 Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb CAP engaged: S-324 Hikotai with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 38500 Raid is overhead -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Allied aircraft P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 3 [8\|][8\|][8\|][8\|] No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 3 x P-47D25 Thunderbolt sweeping at 31000 feet * after the bombers the first fighter fragment shows up! HOW SILLY IS THIS REALLY? Stop praising your own work and actually look at what happens here, then turn back and ask yourselve if this is the realism you insist to tell people... [>:] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 37,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Allied aircraft P-38H Lightning x 21 [8\|] No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 21 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 35000 feet * then some more Lightnings... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 16 minutes Allied aircraft P-38H Lightning x 3[8\|][8\|] No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 3 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet * and a Lightning fragment... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 41,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 16 minutes Allied aircraft P-38H Lightning x 3 No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 3 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 40000 feet * [8\|][8\|][8\|] another Lightning fragment... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Cam Ranh Bay , at 64,72 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 2 minutes Allied aircraft P-38H Lightning x 21 No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 21 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet * more Lightnings, the fragment came in already? [8\|] it´s so ridicioulos and reading tips or guides how to improve this makes it even more ridicoulos when you find out this all helps nothing and is nothing but a fairytale that has been brought up to mask obvious flaws that have been there right from release and seem to never be even looked at... so besides escort and sweep missions failing completely again today, I should perhaps also mention that something like 50% of the fighters didn´t fly at all... I don´t even want to get started about this (no, forget morale, fat or anything else, it was just perfect)... this behaviour is well known already from WITP, obeying orders wasn´t common in WWII you know... unfortunately, with the new oh so great strike routines, this has now become an even bigger problem... but hey, realism pure... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Saigon at 60,71 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 11 Ki-61-Ib Tony x 10 Allied aircraft PB4Y-1 Liberator x 7 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses PB4Y-1 Liberator: 6 damaged Japanese Ships AV Sagara Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 4 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 1000 feet Naval Attack: 5 x 500 lb SAP Bomb CAP engaged: 64th Sentai with Ki-43-IIb Oscar (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling) (3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes 246th Sentai with Ki-61-Ib Tony (3 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling) (3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 6000 , scrambling fighters to 6000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes that´s it then... ordering 250 advanced fighters to attack that would have outnumbered the enemy 3-4:1 ended up in being outnumbered by the enemy 3:1 because the strike routine decided this would be much more realistic... this meant our fighters have shot down a dozen enemies for the loss of nearly two dozen of our fighters that were better aircraft flown by 70 skilled pilots... mhm, alltogether this sounds like a highly reasonable and realistic result for the employed forces... now imagine the unrealistic cruiser bombardment wouldn´t have worked during the night... I go with what I´ve said lots of times earlier already, directly attacking a heavily capped target with radar is a nogo because with the borked strike routines you end up at a disadvantage again and again and again, no matter if you employ a three or four time bigger force that clearly also got the better aircraft... it makes me sad but at the same time I´m just going to switch back to the old tactic of trying to draw out leaking Cap... and then Allied players wonder when they run out of advanced fighters after attacking heavily Capped targets... of course, using carrier based fighter squadrons on sweep works just perfect as they come in near perfectly "coordinated", for what reason ever... something you fail to manage if you order 2x25 fighters from a level 9 airfield... mhm, that surely wasn´t possible in real life... if you say that often enough, at some point you probably start to believe it yourselve...

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (3/9/2011 5:17:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: crsutton My campaign is in the last quarter of 1943 and I was looking over the surface reinforcements for the Allies. They sure get plenty-especially DDs. One thing I noted is that virtually every surface ship that comes into the game after 1/44 has a crew rating over 70 for both day and night. Some of them are closer to 80. No problem there. Yet, I have veteran DDs and CAs that have been fighting since 12/7/41 and some of them are still below 60. I can'f figure this one out. The crew exp levels on some of my old BBs just plain suck. Apparently, surviving the Pearl Harbor attack did little to educate these guys...[X(] yeah, the "veteran" ships can´t match the reinforcements. Look at BB Richelieu for example, first I´ve thought I would not really have a use for her just to find out it´s the highest experienced BB I have available now. So she´s leading my US CV fleet because all the modern US BBs just suck when you compare the exp of them and Richelieu. And I rate exp higher than how the BB looks like because most times you´ve got night engagements and then it doesn´t really matter much if you hit your enemy with a 14" shell from 2000 yards or a 18".

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (3/9/2011 5:18:51 PM)
The cruiser bombardment and the bombers accounted for the enemy´s losses today, using our 250 fighters just accounted for more losses on our side. I wonder why I spend hours and hours for click parties to transfer all those pilots around all the time. [image]local://upfiles/13774/9D4E536B899C4B4C971B10BDEBD9CC08.jpg[/image]

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (3/10/2011 10:20:14 AM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 30, 44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Dadjangas at 77,93 [X(] Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft D4Y1 Judy x 10 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AM Bellechasse xAK President Quezon, Bomb hits 1, on fire xAP Nirvana, Bomb hits 1, on fire Aircraft Attacking: 4 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb 6 x D4Y1 Judy releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb nice move, Rainer flew in some Judies to Zamboanga (Western Mindanao) and launches a surprise strike on a small, empty convoy... damage first looked to be light but both ships sank later due to bomb damage... that´s the problem with those bypassed little bases, you bomb them now and then but at some point they´re able to launch a strike again... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo) Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 41 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 122 P-38J Lightning x 8 F4U-1A Corsair x 10 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged Japanese ground losses: 249 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 32 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled) Aircraft Attacking: 16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ... Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ... Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ... Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ... Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ... Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ... Iloilo is a clear hex and recon reports 10000 enemy troops defending the place... this is our primary target to put pressure on the Manila area as it´s within normal range of all our fighters from Iloilo and that place can be built up to level 9... we´re going to land some paras West of it and throw a couple of rgts onto the island to take out the Japanese garisson... expect to meet 100-150 enemy av there but our bombers will do the job for the infantry... attacking here still out some time... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on Iloilo , at 79,84 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 47 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 21 minutes Allied aircraft F4U-1A Corsair x 20 TBM-1C Avenger x 18 No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 18 x TBM-1C Avenger bombing from 6000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb naval attacking TBM joined the ground strike again... setting: naval attack/rest... [8\|] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo) Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 21 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 36 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo) Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 41 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 12 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 47 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo) Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 41 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 9 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 32 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo) Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 9 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 27 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb the usual uncountable piece meal strikes follow the first main strike... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo) Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 9 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 18 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (3/10/2011 10:24:46 AM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR May 31, 44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Probolinggo , at 56,105 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 35,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-84a Frank x 1 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 16 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 16 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet CAP engaged: 248th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Probolinggo , at 56,105 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 16 No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 16 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet we´re flying the normal squadron sized piece meal sweeps with each squadron losing a fragment on the way to target... silliness we´re used to from day one of the campaign... what I call silliness is called realism in AE advertisments... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Probolinggo , at 56,105 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 34,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-84a Frank x 5 Allied aircraft F4U-1 Corsair x 22 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 16 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet 2 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet 2 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 30000 feet [8\|] CAP engaged: 248th Sentai with Ki-84a Frank (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 6000 Raid is overhead -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Iloilo , at 79,84 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 48 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 144 P-38J Lightning x 36 P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 11 P-51B Mustang x 18 F4U-1A Corsair x 50 PV-1 Ventura x 36 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged PV-1 Ventura: 3 damaged Japanese ground losses: 261 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 29 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled Airbase hits 24 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 105 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ... Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ... Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ... Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking Iloilo ... Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking Iloilo ... Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking Iloilo ... Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ... Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ... Also attacking Iloilo ... Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ... Also attacking Iloilo ... Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ... Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ... Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking Iloilo ... Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ... Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking Iloilo ... Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Iloilo , at 79,84 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 48 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 24 P-51B Mustang x 9 F4U-1A Corsair x 10 PV-1 Ventura x 24 Allied aircraft losses PV-1 Ventura: 5 damaged Japanese ground losses: 4 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Airbase hits 3 Runway hits 69 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking Iloilo ... Also attacking Iloilo ... Also attacking Iloilo ... Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Iloilo , at 79,84 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 48 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 10 F6F-3 Hellcat x 20 PV-1 Ventura x 12 Allied aircraft losses PV-1 Ventura: 2 damaged Airbase hits 3 Runway hits 66 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 24 minutes Allied aircraft B-25H Mitchell x 33 P-38J Lightning x 8 P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 14 P-51B Mustang x 6 Allied aircraft losses B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged Airbase hits 4 Runway hits 5 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Allied aircraft Spitfire VIII x 8 B-25H Mitchell x 46 P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 14 Allied aircraft losses B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged Airbase hits 4 Runway hits 11 Aircraft Attacking: 16 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Iloilo , at 79,84 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 160 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 55 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 33 P-38J Lightning x 32 P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 14 No Allied losses Airbase hits 5 Runway hits 39 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking Iloilo ... Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking Iloilo ... Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking Iloilo ... Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking Iloilo ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo) Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 41 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 12 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 12 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Iloilo , at 79,84 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 10 No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Allied aircraft Spitfire VIII x 6 B-25H Mitchell x 21 Allied aircraft losses B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 5 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Zamboanga , at 75,89 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 41 Japanese aircraft losses D4Y1 Judy: 1 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged Airbase hits 19 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 113 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb we knock out the airfield the Judies were coming from... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Zamboanga , at 75,89 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 18 Japanese aircraft losses D4Y1 Judy: 1 destroyed on ground Airbase hits 6 Airbase supply hits 9 Runway hits 28 Aircraft Attacking: 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Zamboanga , at 75,89 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 3 Japanese aircraft losses D4Y1 Judy: 1 destroyed on ground Runway hits 6 Aircraft Attacking: 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Beaufort (66,87) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 666 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 38 Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0 Allied adjusted assault: 15 Japanese adjusted defense: 1 Allied assault odds: 15 to 1 (fort level 0) Allied forces CAPTURE Beaufort !!! Combat modifiers Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-) Assaulting units: 2nd Fiji Commando Bn /1 1st Fiji Commando Bn /1 paras take an empty base for follow on landings...

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (3/10/2011 10:27:08 AM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 01, 44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 32 minutes Allied aircraft B-25H Mitchell x 64 P-38J Lightning x 16 P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 24 P-51B Mustang x 26 F4U-1A Corsair x 10 PV-1 Ventura x 48 Allied aircraft losses B-25H Mitchell: 2 damaged PV-1 Ventura: 4 damaged Airbase hits 6 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 15 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 16 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 16 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 16 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 16 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb more and more troops are being brought to Davao and the airforce keeps the base damaged to prevent the enemy from building forts... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 32 minutes Allied aircraft F4U-1A Corsair x 10 F6F-3 Hellcat x 20 PV-1 Ventura x 24 Allied aircraft losses PV-1 Ventura: 7 damaged Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 4 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Allied aircraft B-25H Mitchell x 12 P-38J Lightning x 22 P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 14 No Allied losses Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 5 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Allied aircraft B-25H Mitchell x 12 P-38J Lightning x 16 P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 10 No Allied losses Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 1 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 24 minutes Allied aircraft B-25H Mitchell x 16 P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 14 Allied aircraft losses B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 3 Aircraft Attacking: 16 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ground combat at Jesselton (68,86) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 13419 troops, 225 guns, 309 vehicles, Assault Value = 418 Defending force 1967 troops, 0 guns, 84 vehicles, Assault Value = 5 Allied adjusted assault: 287 Japanese adjusted defense: 29 Allied assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 3) Allied forces CAPTURE Jesselton !!! Japanese aircraft no flights Japanese aircraft losses No Japanese losses Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 493 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 58 destroyed, 22 disabled Engineers: 28 destroyed, 1 disabled Vehicles lost 62 (60 destroyed, 2 disabled) Units retreated 2 Allied ground losses: 13 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Assaulting units: 33rd Infantry Division 224th USN Base Force I US Corps 19th RAAF Base Force Defending units: 37th Ind. Engineer Regiment 22nd JAAF Base Force the troops that have been brought to Kudat marched to Jesselton and the base falls to 33rd Inf Div... this is going to be our main airfield for long range strikes from Borneo deep into the South China Sea with Hanoi being the base where our Northern bombers are stationed... we destroy one and a halve dozen enemy aircraft at Jesselton which show up as destroyed A2A... these were KB aircraft that diverted to that base when their carriers got sunk... [image]local://upfiles/13774/54CCC8FA3A944071A9DF254035DC6662.jpg[/image]

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (3/10/2011 10:32:12 AM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 02, 44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 32 minutes Allied aircraft Spitfire VIII x 12 B-25H Mitchell x 21 P-38J Lightning x 32 P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 34 P-51B Mustang x 31 PV-1 Ventura x 31 Allied aircraft losses B-25H Mitchell: 4 damaged PV-1 Ventura: 6 damaged Airbase hits 6 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 35 Aircraft Attacking: 7 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 32 minutes Allied aircraft B-25H Mitchell x 9 F4U-1A Corsair x 20 F6F-3 Hellcat x 20 PV-1 Ventura x 12 Allied aircraft losses PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged Airbase hits 4 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 10 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 32 minutes Allied aircraft B-25H Mitchell x 27 P-38J Lightning x 16 PV-1 Ventura x 12 No Allied losses Airbase hits 4 Runway hits 19 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 16 minutes Allied aircraft PV-1 Ventura x 11 Allied aircraft losses PV-1 Ventura: 4 damaged Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 10 Aircraft Attacking: 11 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb nothing else but surpression attacks... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 22nd JAAF Base Force, at 67,87 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 130 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged Japanese ground losses: 88 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 34 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Vehicles lost 23 (1 destroyed, 22 disabled) Aircraft Attacking: 16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb Also attacking 37th Ind. Engr Rgt /1 ... Also attacking 22nd JAAF Base Force ... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 24 minutes Allied aircraft B-25H Mitchell x 31 P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 14 Allied aircraft losses B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged Airbase hits 7 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 24 Aircraft Attacking: 16 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 37th Ind. Engineer Regiment, at 67,87 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 15 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 14 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 28 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 22nd JAAF Base Force, at 67,87 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 12 No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Allied aircraft B-25H Mitchell x 12 Allied aircraft losses B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 8 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 22nd JAAF Base Force, at 67,87 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 12 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 18 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Cebu , at 80,86 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 23 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 51 P-38J Lightning x 6 Japanese aircraft losses E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed on ground Airbase hits 11 Airbase supply hits 5 Runway hits 70 Aircraft Attacking: 15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb Cebu is one of the airfields in the area with a small garisson that could launch suprise airstrikes so I wanted to make sure the airfield is put out of action... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Cebu , at 80,86 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 12 No Allied losses Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 17 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Cebu , at 80,86 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 12 No Allied losses Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 24 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Cebu , at 80,86 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 3 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 12 No Allied losses Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 21 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 22nd JAAF Base Force, at 67,87 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 6 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 9 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 5 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 22nd JAAF Base Force, at 67,87 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 9 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 5 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 22nd JAAF Base Force, at 67,87 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 27 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 10 No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 22nd JAAF Base Force, at 67,87 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 5 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 9 No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 22nd JAAF Base Force, at 67,87 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid spotted at 47 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 16 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 9 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 5 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 6000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb boring replays, boring combat reports...

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (3/10/2011 10:38:19 AM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 04, 44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Submarine attack near Manado at 75,99 Japanese Ships SS I-54, hits 16, and is sunk Allied Ships BB Indiana CLAA Reno CLAA San Juan DD Claxton DD Fletcher DD Izard DD Hudson DD Hazelwood DD Harrison SS I-54 is sighted by escort DD Izard fails to find sub and abandons search DD Hudson attacking submerged sub .... SS I-54 forced to surface! DD Hudson firing on surfaced sub .... DD Hazelwood firing on surfaced sub .... DD Harrison firing on surfaced sub .... DD Izard firing on surfaced sub .... Sub slips beneath the waves the enemy still sends his subs into our dominated areas occasionally but they mostly end up being sunk... I wouldn´t use such a tactic of infiltration but would rather horde my subs in an area where I would expect the enemy to attack and then send in at least a dozen which perhaps could inflict some damage but sending them one by one usually means losing them one by one without inflicting any real damage... IMO Japanese ASW at this stage of the war is overpowered at least 3:1 compared to real life abilities while I also find Allied ASW to be even better than what it was in real life, but the disparity is by far not as big as with Japanese ASW... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 32 minutes Allied aircraft Spitfire VIII x 8 B-25H Mitchell x 63 P-38J Lightning x 48 P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 20 P-51B Mustang x 13 F4U-1A Corsair x 10 PV-1 Ventura x 43 Allied aircraft losses B-25H Mitchell: 5 damaged PV-1 Ventura: 5 damaged Japanese ground losses: 13 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 5 Runway hits 31 Aircraft Attacking: 8 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 11 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 32 minutes Allied aircraft P-51B Mustang x 13 PV-1 Ventura x 36 Allied aircraft losses PV-1 Ventura: 9 damaged Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 13 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Babeldaob , at 90,97 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 261 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 5 damaged Japanese ground losses: 48 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 46 Airbase supply hits 24 Runway hits 335 Port hits 18 Port fuel hits 5 Port supply hits 2 Aircraft Attacking: 16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 13 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Port Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb huge strike in clear sky gives an excellent result... if weather forecast could be used you could reduce airstrikes by a factor three at least because you wouldn´t fly strikes in thunderstorms all the time that of course don´t give the same results as strikes like the above one... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Allied aircraft B-25H Mitchell x 16 No Allied losses Runway hits 15 Aircraft Attacking: 16 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Babeldaob , at 90,97 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 15 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 5 damaged Airbase hits 5 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 26 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Babeldaob , at 90,97 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 12 No Allied losses Airbase hits 1 Runway hits 38 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Davao , at 79,91 Weather in hex: Heavy rain Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 24,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Allied aircraft B-25H Mitchell x 21 P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 10 Allied aircraft losses B-25H Mitchell: 4 damaged Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 10 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Babeldaob , at 90,97 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 12 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged Airbase hits 1 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 20 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb the enemy still uses his transport aircraft a lot, probably for supply flights of cut off bases and to bring out fragments to rebuild units and the ac loss list often reminds me of this... [image]local://upfiles/13774/08A12C7C816E4A239BEFDA211F46EA7A.jpg[/image]

castor troy -> RE: AE = Alpine Edition <-> Rainer79 vs. ranting castor troy (3/10/2011 10:40:09 AM)
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Jun 05, 44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Zamboanga , at 75,89 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 32 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft Spitfire VIII x 8 B-25H Mitchell x 43 P-38J Lightning x 45 P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 10 F4U-1A Corsair x 20 PV-1 Ventura x 45 Japanese aircraft losses No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses B-25H Mitchell: 2 damaged PV-1 Ventura: 8 damaged Airbase hits 5 Airbase supply hits 4 Runway hits 101 Aircraft Attacking: 9 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 16 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb no airstrikes coming from here for the next couple of weeks... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Zamboanga , at 75,89 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 26,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 32 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-25H Mitchell x 21 P-51B Mustang x 13 PV-1 Ventura x 24 Japanese aircraft losses No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses B-25H Mitchell: 3 damaged PV-1 Ventura: 4 damaged Japanese ground losses: 3 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Airbase hits 2 Airbase supply hits 1 Runway hits 90 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Zamboanga , at 75,89 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 32 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-25H Mitchell x 12 P-47D25 Thunderbolt x 10 PV-1 Ventura x 12 Japanese aircraft losses No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged Airbase hits 4 Airbase supply hits 2 Runway hits 37 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo) Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 41 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 178 P-38J Lightning x 3 F4U-1A Corsair x 10 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 3 damaged Japanese ground losses: 501 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 33 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 24 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 16 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 13 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 14 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 13 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 5 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 13 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 3 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ... Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ... Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ... Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ... Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 30th JAAF Base Force ... Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking 19th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Also attacking 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment ... Also attacking 20th Ind. Engineer Regiment ... Iloilo´s garisson takes a punishment... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 30th JAAF Base Force, at 79,84 (Iloilo) Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 41 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 15 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 9 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 15 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo) Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 46 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 15 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 9 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 21 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo) Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 12 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 10 Allied aircraft losses B-24J Liberator: 1 damaged Japanese ground losses: 19 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 30th JAAF Base Force, at 79,84 (Iloilo) Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 19 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 9 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 10 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Zamboanga , at 75,89 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 24 minutes Japanese aircraft no flights Allied aircraft B-25H Mitchell x 12 Japanese aircraft losses No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses B-25H Mitchell: 1 damaged Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 9 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo) Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 11 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 11 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 30th JAAF Base Force, at 79,84 (Iloilo) Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 11 No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 11 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Zamboanga , at 75,89 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Allied aircraft B-25H Mitchell x 12 No Allied losses Airbase hits 2 Runway hits 12 Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-25H Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo) Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 9 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 5 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo) Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 13 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 9 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 21 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 9 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on 1st Ind.Mixed Regiment, at 79,84 (Iloilo) Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Allied aircraft B-24J Liberator x 12 No Allied losses Japanese ground losses: 32 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Aircraft Attacking: 12 x B-24J Liberator bombing from 10000 feet Ground Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb otherwise not much to report, should get more interesting again when the enemy responds to my attack on Iloilo...

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