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Reg -> RE: RIP??? (7/9/2014 11:06:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso
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ORIGINAL: sprior

So this is where those spare planes are

[image]local://upfiles/6847/C6437006F1E94040A90C5902BA77CF18.jpg[/image]

Brett's Wharf, Hamilton, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
According to one source, the high buildings at top left are the stands at Ascot Racecourse (now Eagle Farm Racecourse).


Dang!! I knew those houses were Queenslanders (a very distinctive architectural style) but I thought the pic might have been taken in NZ as they are very similar.

Hamilton is near Eagle Farm Racecourse (a military airfield during the war) so that caption sounds plausible.

Bretts Wharf these days has been developed into a complex of waterfront condominiums worth a gazillion dollars each. I wonder if the current owners are aware of how rough the area used to be?

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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Why are the lot sizes so freaking small in Brisbane? It's a big country.


Working class district and one of the oldest parts of town (near the docks). Not everyone lives on sheep stations..... [:-]

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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Looks like Martlett II's in front and some kind of export P-40 with the wings off in back.


Totally the wrong undercarriage for a Martlett. They are Hellcat F Mk.II (F6F-5). Note also the Corsairs with the upward folding wings on the far side.

The other planes are Barracuda as I pointed out in post 15367. (Wow, "The Thread" has nothing on this one).

The British Fleet Air Arm had quite a presence in Australia with Mobile Naval Operating Air Bases (MONAB) in early 1945 during the buildup to Operation Olympic.

Archerfield (HMS Nabsford) 

RNAS Bankstown, NSW  (HMS Nabberley)(MONABII  (now Bankstown airport)

Jervis bay, NSW  RAAF airstrip, satellite to Nowra (HMS Nabswick) 

Maryborough RAAF station MONAB V (HMS Nabstock) 

MONAB VI – HMS Nabstock, MARYBOROUGH, QLD 

MONAB VII – HMS Nabreekie, MEEANDAH, Brisbane 

Nowra RAAF station near Sydney, NSW (HMS Nabbington) MONAB I Mobile Naval Operating Air Bases [RAN primary aircraft shore base postwar, HMAS Albatross] 

Schofields, NSW  (RAAF station, near Sydney, loaned to FAA as HMS Nabthorpe, MONAB III [HMS Nabstock postwar, then HMAS Nirimba]  ]


Sadly these aircraft are heading for this ignominious end: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=3377272


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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

I am not aware of any US-built army fighters that used a four-blade prop so I figure that rules out any P-39/P-40 variants.


The P-51 is a US-built army fighter with a four-blade prop.






Itdepends -> RE: RIP??? (7/9/2014 11:25:55 AM)

Brisbane eh? Well Sprior got the rain like hell part right.




sprior -> RE: RIP??? (7/9/2014 7:50:06 PM)

This is what the railings look like from the inside

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Cap Mandrake -> RE: RIP??? (7/9/2014 9:11:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sprior

This is what the railings look like from the inside

[image]local://upfiles/6847/BBCC80F2CC7F4789868C981E7EC71373.jpg[/image]


Ah, came back to slum with us serfs, eh?




Chickenboy -> RE: RIP??? (7/10/2014 1:56:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: witpqs

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ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

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I am not aware of any US-built army fighters that used a four-blade prop so I figure that rules out any P-39/P-40 variants.


Agree that the planes in the pic weren't P-39 or P-40s.

P-47D had 4-blade prop (as did the F4U4 Corsair, but that was not an Army plane). The planes with 4-blade prop in photo aren't P-47s, though.

That settles it, then. They're alien craft piloted by time-traveling cats with "laser beams".


I put in the air quote there for you, Dr. Evil.




Chickenboy -> RE: RIP??? (7/10/2014 1:58:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sprior

This is what the railings look like from the inside

[image]local://upfiles/6847/BBCC80F2CC7F4789868C981E7EC71373.jpg[/image]


What sort of hardware is the bobby at far left packing?

ETA: Oops. I meant far right...[:D]




Itdepends -> RE: RIP??? (7/10/2014 10:45:34 AM)

I have to admit Chickenboy- I read the description as "what the railings look like from behind and then got distracted by the filly on the left.




Cap Mandrake -> RE: RIP??? (7/10/2014 2:29:57 PM)

*************3rd USMC Para Bn, Tokaro Retto, July 23, 1943(c)*************

Sgt. Bonebreak:..DAMNIT KOWALSKI! SHUT UP AND PAY ATTENTION! YOU ARE GOING TO NEED TO KNOW THIS! WE MIGHT BE ON KYYUSHU INSIDE OF 24 HRS!

OK...Bathroom?

Marines: BINJO!

Sgt. Bonebreak: GOOD! "Hand's up!"

Marines: HAND-AH UP-AH!

Sgt. Bonebreak: GOOD! "That's really funny"

Marines: THAT-AH REARRY FUNNY

Sgt. Bonebreak: GOOD! "Holy crap"

Marines: HORY CRAP...........





sprior -> RE: RIP??? (7/10/2014 5:02:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


What sort of hardware is the bobby at far left packing?

ETA: Oops. I meant far right...[:D]


No clue. Some kind of H&K?




Cap Mandrake -> RE: RIP??? (7/10/2014 6:16:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Reg

Totally the wrong undercarriage for a Martlett. They are Hellcat F Mk.II (F6F-5). Note also the Corsairs with the upward folding wings on the far side.

The other planes are Barracuda as I pointed out in post 15367. (Wow, "The Thread" has nothing on this one).


Wow. You are right. Didn't see the Corsairs either. I guess we have to grudgingly admit you know what you are talking about. [:)]




Chickenboy -> RE: RIP??? (7/10/2014 8:00:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sprior


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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


What sort of hardware is the bobby at far left packing?

ETA: Oops. I meant far right...[:D]


No clue. Some kind of H&K?


I was thinking it had the silhouette of an H&K MP5, so you're probably right.




Cap Mandrake -> RE: RIP??? (7/10/2014 8:39:59 PM)

*************July 32, 1943(c)*************


Kyushu: As is usually the case, sweep missions from different plane types don't coordinate well. The F6F's from Fuk-u-jima are the first to go in. JJ have been hoarding their good stuff in Japan. This is going to cost us some aricraft.

Morning Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 42 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 8
N1K1-J George x 31
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 22

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 6 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x F6F-3 Hellcat sweeping at 28000 feet *



The Corsairs from Fuk-u-jima have a better result. It's an ace squadron.

[Morning Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 5
N1K1-J George x 18
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 9

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 2 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 4 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x F4U-1 Corsair sweeping at 28000 feet


By the time the P-38H arrive, JJ's ardor has cooled.

Morning Air attack on Kagoshima , at 102,60

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 4
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38H Lightning: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x P-38H Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet




Cap Mandrake -> RE: RIP??? (7/10/2014 8:47:53 PM)

Bad day for the Coast Guard. JJ sink one of their "first raters" near Fuk-u-jima. They lose some pranes, though.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Fukue-jima at 101,58

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 6
D3A2 Val x 6
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 8

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IV x 7
P-40K Warhawk x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed
D3A2 Val: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
SC-707, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AM Strive






Cap Mandrake -> RE: RIP??? (7/10/2014 8:50:22 PM)

Oz JJ still won't give up at Port Hedrand.

Ground combat at Port Hedland (57,129)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 16135 troops, 201 guns, 863 vehicles, Assault Value = 620

Defending force 21024 troops, 39 guns, 20 vehicles, Assault Value = 381

Allied adjusted assault: 193

Japanese adjusted defense: 19

Allied assault odds: 10 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1598 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 92 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 45 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
495 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 26 (7 destroyed, 19 disabled)




Cap Mandrake -> RE: RIP??? (7/10/2014 8:55:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sprior

Bloody hell Chief how many of these things are there?

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Rodney?




BBfanboy -> RE: RIP??? (7/10/2014 9:20:36 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake


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ORIGINAL: sprior

Bloody hell Chief how many of these things are there?

[image]local://upfiles/6847/3B705EA79C254500B26CBF23E26FBC9D.jpg[/image]



Rodney?

How the hell do you know the Chief's name??
The ship could be Nelson though ...




Cap Mandrake -> RE: RIP??? (7/10/2014 11:01:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake


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ORIGINAL: sprior

Bloody hell Chief how many of these things are there?

[image]local://upfiles/6847/3B705EA79C254500B26CBF23E26FBC9D.jpg[/image]



Rodney?

How the hell do you know the Chief's name??
The ship could be Nelson though ...


Or the lazy baaahstard standing around not doing any work could be Nelson and the ship Rodney


I know a Peruvian woman who named her two sons Nelson and Rodney. [:D] I think it was just a spectacular coincidence.[:)]

I know a Mexican mom who named her four sons Jorge, Paul (pronounced "Pah-OOL"), Juan and...wait for it...Ringo...except she couldn't say "Ringo" so she called him "Dringo" [:D]

Dringo had some problems with develomental delay. Nothing bad, but it always struck me as cosmically harmonious.




Cap Mandrake -> RE: RIP??? (7/10/2014 11:05:52 PM)

By ra way, the tall guy in the picture seems like an officer of some sort..just from the way he is standing there wondering why he was transferred away from the cushy gig at Whitehall.

"Bloody Hell! 3 months ago I could walk 2 blocks and see some theatre with that young WREN with the firm buttocks who pushes the ship models around on the big map... and now, here I am, a stone's throw from Greenland with these cretins."




Cap Mandrake -> RE: RIP??? (7/11/2014 4:35:46 PM)

Yo




Lecivius -> RE: RIP??? (7/11/2014 6:48:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Yo


Tell me you didn't DL the app? [X(][&:]




Cap Mandrake -> RE: RIP??? (7/11/2014 10:10:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lecivius


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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Yo


Tell me you didn't DL the app? [X(][&:]


No, it comes with the latest mod. V1.001-289/yo1


http://www.matrixgames.com/products/351/downloads/




Cap Mandrake -> RE: RIP??? (7/12/2014 3:42:21 PM)

Air losses last turn. Pretty well wrecked an F6F squadron. Oh well, we have more. [:D]

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Cap Mandrake -> GERONIMO! (7/12/2014 3:45:04 PM)

Detection level 9/10 0ver Kanoya (SW Kyushsu). 2800 LYB's in 1 unit. That is likely just an aviation support unit.

We jump at dawn. Hope the Japan-mens ranguage ressons go OK.




Chickenboy -> RE: RIP??? (7/12/2014 5:27:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
This is going to cost us some aricraft.


Aye. Don't forget about the prohibitive cost in men and ships too, Allied dog!




Cap Mandrake -> RE: RIP??? (7/12/2014 8:22:49 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
This is going to cost us some aricraft.


Aye. Don't forget about the prohibitive cost in men and ships too, Allied dog!


Can you recommend any good sights to see in Kanoya?




Cap Mandrake -> RE: RIP??? (7/12/2014 9:32:22 PM)

Ok..the Frankinvasion is on.

If everything goes right..2 Bn of paratroops from 3 different airfields, the main one overcrowded...big enemy fighter strength 1 hex away...not enough LRCAP over the target hex

What could go wrong? [:)]

The good news is a cruiser/DD group will bombard at night and quite a few heavies are lined up to go after the ground troops at Kanoya and the airfield at Kagoshima







Cap Mandrake -> RE: RIP??? (7/12/2014 9:33:57 PM)

If this works it will be fun.

If not we will lose 2 Bn of paratroops and will trigger Japanese emergency reinforcements prematurely





Mike McCreery -> RE: RIP??? (7/12/2014 10:10:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

If this works it will be fun.

If not we will lose 2 Bn of paratroops and will trigger Japanese emergency reinforcements prematurely




It is still only July 1943... What could possibly go wrong??




Cap Mandrake -> RE: RIP??? (7/13/2014 2:58:35 PM)

**************July 24, 1943(c)*************


Hokkaido Invasion: The invasion force moves SW into the Sea of Japan from Shikuku with the carriers coming down from the Sea of Okhotsk where they have been resting their fighter crews.
Angry LYB's attack.

USS Cape Johnson get torpedoed while tied up to the DOCK at Shimishuri?? Evidentry Japan-mens invent new sharrow running torpedo.

Submarine attack near Shimushiri-jima at 133,51

Japanese Ships
SS RO-65

Allied Ships
xAP Cape Johnson, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


Then the Vals come out. These are very persistent fellows.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Toyohara at 125,48

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 10 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 20

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 57

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 11 destroyed

No Allied losses


BANZAI!

Morning Air attack on TF, near Toyohara at 125,48

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 2

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 52

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses


BANZAI! (again). This lot brings the dreaded Rufe along. Even so, we running out of burrets and the LYB's get through.
Poor Walter Reed gets treated very shabilly.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Toyohara at 125,48

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 4
D3A2 Val x 27

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 52

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 3 destroyed
D3A2 Val: 12 destroyed, 3 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
SC-632
xAP Rufus King, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SC-982
xAP Walter Reed, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
79 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


They find some more head scarves and come back in the afternoon. The P-38's from Shikuku belatedly arrive.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Toyohara at 125,47

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 9

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 8
F6F-3 Hellcat x 69

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 3 destroyed

No Allied losses


Some Bettys too.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Toyohara at 125,47

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 94 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 33 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 2
G4M1 Betty x 8

Allied aircraft
P-38H Lightning x 7
F6F-3 Hellcat x 63

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 4 destroyed

No Allied losses


Essex dive bombers attack some AK's in southern Hokkaido.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kushiro at 123,53

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 25 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2-N Rufe x 3

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 25
SBD-5 Dauntless x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2-N Rufe: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-5 Dauntless: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAKL Kokuyo Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Indus Maru, Bomb hits 7, and is sunk


Another dockside AP gets torpedoed.

Submarine attack near Shimushiri-jima at 133,51

Japanese Ships
SS I-159

Allied Ships
xAP Cape Perpetua, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage





Cap Mandrake -> RE: RIP??? (7/13/2014 3:17:33 PM)

*********Bihoro IJA Airfield, Bihoro, Hokkaido, 07:20, July 24, 1943(c)*******


Lt. Ashigawa: <holds armful of white head scarves with bright red rising suns> Here-ah, Japaan-mens pirots wear
head scarves with perfume of wife of emperor. This awaken bushido spirit and take away fear-ah!

<the men eagerly take the scarves and begin to put them on>

Any questions?

Airman 1: Reutenant, what-ah about fighter escort?

Lt. Ashigawa: 123rd Training Daiti. <There is a murmuring among the flight crews and a few jovial shoulder punches. Smiles suddenly appear>

Airman 2: What-ah prane type, sir?

Lt. Ashigawa: The awesome Rufe!

Airman in back: Hory crap!

Lt. Ashigawa: OK, who say-ah that? <all now look down, smiles gone, there is no answer>
OK, what-ah about head scarves with emperor womans perfume?

Airman 3: Reutenant! My scarf broken. Stirr rittah bit afraid.





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