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ORIGINAL: adecoy95

argh, now i dont want to play non expansion distant worlds [:(]

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I imagine...
The Shakturi on their way with their minion race of robots leading the way. Distant Worlds galaxy seems certainly doomed to be conquered.

Some unforeseen and unusual event causes the robotic minion race to become independent of the Shakturi. The robotic race arrives first in the galaxy and decides to prepare to face their former masters who will also soon arrive. The robotic race cares little for the galaxy races but will consider cooperating with them to better confront the Shakturi.

Now, it seems, the Distant Worlds galaxy races MAY have a chance to compete with the Shakturi. It may require much cooperation... or much conquering.

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ORIGINAL: Wade1000

Or...

The Shakturi, an extreme biological technology race, have been waring for eons against their opposite and final arch nemesis, an extreme robotic technology race.

Both races are now starting to extend their war to the Distant Worlds galaxy for more resources. Any seemingly minor races to them can choose a side or hope to survive as neutral.

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ORIGINAL: hondo1375


2. Fuel. In principle, this is a good mechanic, but the current execution is often frustrating. For example, I had a fleet on an offensive in a distant enemy system, and I was moving a resupply ship into place to deploy to refuel the fleet. However, the fleet was low on fuel. Even though the ships were set to manual, they started warping away to refuel at a distant star which would have put them out of action for a long time. If they'd hung around a few more minutes they could have refueled at the resupply ship. I kept grabbing them manually and bringing them back. It felt like herding cats in the end and I gave up. Some way to disable this automated behaviour would be welcome.

More to the point, I think some mechanic where tankers can be sent with fleets and auto refuel the fleet would take a lot of the pain out of this. Other games and RL do it like this, so why not? Also, tankers set to auto should be able to fly around your empire tracking down out of fuel ships limping around and auto refuel them Currently, micomanaging this is zero fun.

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ORIGINAL: Litjan

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ORIGINAL: hondo1375


2. Fuel. In principle, this is a good mechanic, but the current execution is often frustrating. For example, I had a fleet on an offensive in a distant enemy system, and I was moving a resupply ship into place to deploy to refuel the fleet. However, the fleet was low on fuel. Even though the ships were set to manual, they started warping away to refuel at a distant star which would have put them out of action for a long time. If they'd hung around a few more minutes they could have refueled at the resupply ship. I kept grabbing them manually and bringing them back. It felt like herding cats in the end and I gave up. Some way to disable this automated behaviour would be welcome.

More to the point, I think some mechanic where tankers can be sent with fleets and auto refuel the fleet would take a lot of the pain out of this. Other games and RL do it like this, so why not? Also, tankers set to auto should be able to fly around your empire tracking down out of fuel ships limping around and auto refuel them Currently, micomanaging this is zero fun.

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The behaviour for fleets has been cause for much debate. If you have ships stay with their fleets, then people complain about half of the fleet not being battle-ready. If you have them wisk of by themselves, people complain about them flying away uncontrollably. I think part of the job of the commander is to make sure they are fueled appropriately - i.e. have them fuel up before going on missions.
If you take away this part of the game, it will loose an important and fun decision making point: How much fuelcells do I put on my ships? Do I make them short-legged, but more powerfull, or do I make them a little "weaker" but have more stamina?
If you feel the fueling logistics are a big hassle for you, just add some more fueltanks to your ships - it is (in a way) the same as adding a "fuel tanker" to your fleet: For the same "money" you will get either (just an example) 10 ships with 10 firepower each plus one tanker. Or 20 ships with 5 firepower each with no tanker.

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ORIGINAL: WoodMan

[:D]

I've never even bothered to build a resupply ship!  I will make that one of my goals when the addon comes out. [:D]

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ORIGINAL: Igard

Usually somewhere about a sector distance from the enemy controlled star system(s), so as to decrease the chances of detection on their long range sensors (maybe closer depending on tech level).

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ORIGINAL: ehsumrell1

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ORIGINAL: Igard

Usually somewhere about a sector distance from the enemy controlled star system(s), so as to decrease the chances of detection on their long range sensors (maybe closer depending on tech level).

...and I thought you Romulans had cloaking devices on your ships.... LOL [:-]

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ORIGINAL: Igard


I've been thinking about Romulan style cloaking devices and how they could be implemented in DW without making them overpowered. Here are a few ideas if anyones interested :-

* They would need to be a race special tech so not everyone has them.
* It wouldn't be practical to have a toggle button so why not only engage it when it's needed? This would be when an attack order is given or when a resupply ship is being deployed at a gas giant.
* The level of long range sensor tech could be used to detect cloaked ships (as it does now). However in this case, the cloaked ship would remain undetected until it finally opens fire or receives a non tactical order (move, refuel, etc.)
* The ship should attempt to re-cloak when it retreats. The cloak should use alot of energy, so there may not be enough left for it to re-cloak itself when retreating leaving it vulnerable.

Not easy to implement I would think, but it would be a nice tech. I might start a thread about cloaking devices once I see what the expansion has in store for me.

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ORIGINAL: hondo1375


I think it is a matter of degree and personal preference. The game is designed to allow you to automate whatever you'd rather not worry about, and I think that is one of its strengths. Personally, I like a little bit of logistics management, but currently I'm having to spend a lot of time trying to refuel constructor ships and fleets scattered around the galaxy limping around without fuel. Sometimes I wish I could just automate a tanker to fly around and refuel all those ships as it gets pretty boring. If you personally like doing that manually, or planning out fuel capacities and miner refuelling points to avoid it in the first place, then that's great, but that level of logistics isn't to everyone's taste ... well at least not mine. Being able to automate something like that (or not, as you please) seems within the design philosophy of the game.

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I think fuel management is more about realism than anything else.
You also need to consider that you have to manage multiple types of resources.
If you don't have all the resources you need, then you're not going to be building anything.

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ORIGINAL: noname
One question: will the expansion include the patches for the original Distant Worlds? Reason I ask is that I have put off buying DW because I do not have a high speed capability, just an old fashioned modem dial up. It would take me an impossibly long time to download that huge patch. Thanks for the infomation.

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ORIGINAL: hondo1375

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I think fuel management is more about realism than anything else.
You also need to consider that you have to manage multiple types of resources.
If you don't have all the resources you need, then you're not going to be building anything.

I'm not sure I agree, I have plenty of fuel, but distributing it to where it needs to be is a pain. The rest of the resources in the game are automatically handled by private ships, so I'm not sure your analogy works. Any way, I must have a different playing style/preference to you and the other posters here who aren't finding this an issue.

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ORIGINAL: Wade1000
-Race specific victory conditions are superficially specific. True victory is when you reign supreme with no real threats(at least forseen for awhile). This can be achieved with alliances using some diplomacy, also good economics and research, but it requires complete military superiority and often war.