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Mad Russian -> RE: Status? (1/23/2011 9:20:56 PM)
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ORIGINAL: diablo1
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ORIGINAL: Mad Russian
The one realistic place to have Soviet female soldiers would be snipers. Otherwise you are looking at so few that they were extremely rare. Medics, nurses, adminstration, yes, combat units not so many. I have some pictures of a few that were tank drivers but not more than a handful. I know of NO women in Soviet infantry combat units.
As Ben said, rather than concentrate on something so rare we're trying to work our way down from the more common place items to less common place. Women in Soviet uniforms are extremely rare if you don't count snipers.
Good Hunting.
MR
70% of the 800,000 Russian women who served in the Soviet army in WW2 fought at the front. One hundred thousand of them were decorated for defending their country.
Alexandra Beikov and her husband Ivan bought their own tank so they could go into WW2 together. She was awarded the order of the Patriotic War.
Maria Baide, a scout in the Crimea was awarded Russia's highest honor, Hero of the Soviet Union.
Over 800,000 women served in the Soviet army during WW2. They served as pilots, snipers, machine gunners, tank crew members and partisans
All I requested was one little measly female partisian unit and I get "how minor they were in the big picture comments."
ROFL!!!
Okay then. Why don't you tell us how you really feel?
A woman and her husband buy a tank to fight in and it makes international news. You know why? Because it's a rare thing.
Yes, at the moment there are other things we want to include in PCO. The fact that we don't have partisans may have something to do with the fact that we don't have a "woman" partisan.
I would rather concentrate on getting the interface and the main equipment set in the game before we do other exotic things like women partisans.
Now, if you have such a bee in your bonnet to have them, they can be done. The greatest thing about PC in my opinion is that anything can be added. You can do whatever you like. I'm not a modder or I would have had women Soviet snipers in the game at the moment. I asked for them but have not gotten them. It wasn't high on my list of things to see but I felt it would add flavor to the game.
Reading down the same page from where you got your quote you would have seen:
The Soviet Union also used women for sniping duties extensively, and to great effect, including Nina Alexeyevna Lobkovskaya and Ukrainian Lyudmila Pavlichenko (who killed over 300 enemy soldiers). The Soviets found that sniper duties fit women well, since good snipers are patient, careful, deliberate, can avoid hand-to-hand combat, and need higher levels of aerobic conditioning than other troops. Women also served as machine gunners, tank drivers, medics, communication personnel and political officers. Manshuk Mametova was a machine gunner from Kazakhstan and was the first Soviet Asian woman to receive the Hero of the Soviet Union for acts of bravery.
In most other places women weren't concentrated enough to really notice.
Almost half of those serving were in antiaircraft units.
About 300,000 served in anti—aircraft units and performed all functions in the batteries—including firing the guns. A small number were combat flyers in the Air Force.
That cuts down the number in combat units by about half the 800,000 you quoted. I was trying to find an article I thought remembered. It was about an all woman infantry unit. ONE COMBAT UNIT. But I couldn't find it. Mostly what you see are references to a tank driver here and there. Lots of medics in combat units and many of the administrative duties of combat units. Things men did in other countries.
When it comes to partisans you're absolutely correct. Not just for the Soviet Union but for all nations. Once we do partisans then you'll get a woman as well. I would expect to see one as a sniper before then though.
Good Hunting.
MR
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