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Klydon -> RE: Defender of the Revolution: Q-Ball v Tarhunnas (6/7/2011 4:11:13 AM)
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ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS
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ORIGINAL: Klydon
I think Larry has shown the way with his AAR against Pelton. Despite getting just absolutely hammered in 1941, he was in a position to continue to resist in 1942. I think most everyone was fairly sure what the outcome would be, but the point is the Russians seem to be very capable of taking the most severe battering and still be in a position to offer resistance.
Out of this mess, you can take some comfort in a couple of things. First, losses for both sides is fairly low for this time of season. That is going to change if he can nail all those pockets, so it is going to be up to you to save as much of your army as you can. What doesn't get destroyed doesn't have to be replaced in terms of armaments points. You are still in a position that even whatever he destroys now, will come back yet, even if it is a shell.
With PG1 heading north, that should mean the Stalino area is safe; for now. Don't fool yourself, those factories need to be gone by spring and there is a chance he could still get them during snow, but not likely. Either way, you need to defend them heavily. I would look to try to keep the armaments in place for now in order to help fill out units for your blizzard offensive. You are going to need a good blizzard offensive, which may be quite possible depending on how losses go and how well he sets up for winter. We have seen a number of Germans do well with their campaign only to take a terrific beating during blizzard. Case in point, if he doesn't clean up the situation north of the Crimea, there could be some possibilities there. There is a good chance that the line won't advance much past Moscow and a counter offensive may take it back.
A lot of what happens in the winter will depend on how well you organize your forces in the shock armies, get the proper leaders set up there and then come out swinging.
Hang in there. [:)]
Re Larry I am not so sure about that. At first I was also impressed by how his Red Army reappeared at the end of 1941. Then looking deeper it was pretty obvious as it is with the same game now against KLilly, that Larry simply used all his resources and rebuilt the Red Army of 1941 rather than evolving it to the new. It has to be open to question whether that type of army can survive in 1942, or whether it simply becomes Barbarossa Redux. It didn't take long in '42 for Pelton to consume the Soviet Fronts and again KLilly is repeating the same process. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery they say. Of course in a similar situation others may take the Red Army to the next level. but perhaps it remains to be seen what size of army emerges. When Larry fleshes out the shell divisions in winter, come Spring it looks like a long, wide carpet. A Red Army with numerous corps may look a lot smaller. So I think we are still waiting to see the book written on how to survive catastrophic losses of Moscow, Leningrad, the Donbass and come out of winter with a chance to win the war.
My point was it could have been hard to imagine it being worse than what Pelton managed to hammer Larry with. Even at the end of that, Larry still had a good sized army (in troop strength) and also was ok on artillery and tanks. That Pelton was going to drop the hammer on him in 1942 was never in doubt. Larry is still learning the game at this stage and did really know what to do. Q-Ball is a far more experienced with the game and has been through a blizzard as the Germans. I expect him to take this as a learning experience and while he may be doomed in the long run, he does have a punchers chance with the winter. After that, who knows. Tarhunnas is an excellent player and not prone to make mistakes, but you never know. Tarhunnas was especially bold here to nail some industry. I don't blame him for doing it at all, even at the potential cost of some of his motorized stuff. That can be replaced. What was destroyed can never be replaced for the rest of the game.
If nothing else, both players will gain experience by going through the blizzard and into 1942 at this point. From a community standpoint of view, more data with 1.04.24, etc is good.
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