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herwin -> RE: July 23/24 (8/6/2011 10:57:12 PM)
Hmm... It looks like he's pulled his troops out of PM.

herwin -> July 24/25 (8/8/2011 2:31:01 AM)
July 24/25 1942 No important actions.

herwin -> July 25/26 (8/8/2011 3:38:00 PM)
July 25/26 1942 Indian armoured columns occupy Prome. Allied CVTF continues bombarding Tulagi.

herwin -> July 26/27 (8/9/2011 3:15:08 PM)
July 26/27 1942 Dutch sub sunk off Soerabaya. Japanese air operations concentrate on suppressing PM, Ramree Island, and Ambon.

herwin -> July 27/28 (8/9/2011 10:55:46 PM)
July 27/28 1942 Major battle on the Nanyang-Sian Road. Ground combat at 85,44 (near Nanyang) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 187053 troops, 1639 guns, 772 vehicles, Assault Value = 6025 Defending force 84029 troops, 498 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2570 Japanese adjusted assault: 3613 Allied adjusted defense: 5047 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 18121 casualties reported Squads: 151 destroyed, 845 disabled Non Combat: 33 destroyed, 809 disabled Engineers: 6 destroyed, 48 disabled Vehicles lost 101 (6 destroyed, 95 disabled) Allied ground losses: 6962 casualties reported Squads: 14 destroyed, 391 disabled Non Combat: 26 destroyed, 451 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 29 disabled Continuing action at Tsuyung Ground combat at Tsuyung (68,46) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 29140 troops, 226 guns, 58 vehicles, Assault Value = 919 Defending force 19010 troops, 54 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 395 Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1 Japanese adjusted assault: 567 Allied adjusted defense: 544 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1) Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 1218 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 61 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 63 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Allied ground losses: 808 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 60 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled Assaulting units: 33rd Division Imperial Guards Division 112th Infantry Regiment Defending units: 88th Chinese Division 54th Chinese Corps 10th Construction Regiment 12th Construction Regiment NCAC 51st Base Group

herwin -> July 28/29 (8/10/2011 2:24:57 AM)
July 28/29 1942 The IJN SAG reappears at Koepang. The RN heavy SAG is within range to react (cross fingers).

herwin -> July 29/30 (8/10/2011 11:03:05 PM)
July 29/30 1942 Time for one of my cunning plans! Bombing Rangoon at night--1 light industry hit. Looks like the Japanese are back at Koepang. Once resupplied, my heavy SAG may pay a visit.

herwin -> July 30/31 (8/11/2011 4:18:47 PM)
July 30/31 1942 Japanese landings at Koepang likely to be successful. I'm sending my heavy SAG in to disrupt them, but it appears he may be establishing a foothold on Timor. I need to develop some tactics to block his torpedo bomber operations. Japanese attack at Tsuyung unsuccessful. Chinese reinforcements arriving tomorrow, which should stabilise the situation. Ground combat at Tsuyung (68,46) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 28832 troops, 226 guns, 58 vehicles, Assault Value = 892 Defending force 18620 troops, 54 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 373 Japanese adjusted assault: 522 Allied adjusted defense: 841 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2) Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 1258 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 59 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 90 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled Allied ground losses: 246 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 30 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled

herwin -> July 31/August 1 (8/16/2011 5:59:02 PM)
July 31/August 1 1942 My opponent suffered a power supply failure, and is only now coming back on line. My coastwatchers are reporting Rabaul is packed with shipping. My opponent seems to be concerned about the places he's finding my troops in strength.

herwin -> Aug 1/2 (8/16/2011 9:57:13 PM)
August 1/2 1942 US Army lands at Kirakira. Japanese A6M2s encounter superior Chinese fighters at Tsuyung.

herwin -> Aug 2/3 (8/17/2011 12:25:02 AM)
August 2/3 1942 I suspect the troops at Koepang are getting tired of the alternating shore bombardments. The Betties hit PM and Koepang after my ships leave.

herwin -> Aug 3/4 (8/17/2011 3:25:37 AM)
August 3/4 1942 How the f**k did he sneak this in on me? I have 52 PBYs operating out of Ndeni. Morning Air attack on TF, near Stewart Island at 119,137 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 149 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 55 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 33 B5N2 Kate x 45 D3A1 Val x 53 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 17 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed B5N2 Kate: 4 damaged D3A1 Val: 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CV Wasp, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage CA Vincennes, Torpedo hits 1 CA Quincy DD Blue CLAA San Juan DD Helm DD Bagley Aircraft Attacking: 18 x D3A1 Val bombing from 8000 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 18 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 17 x D3A1 Val bombing from 8000 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 27 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 18 x D3A1 Val bombing from 8000 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb CAP engaged: VF-71 with F4F-4 Wildcat (4 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 18000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 18000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Wasp --------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Stewart Island at 119,137 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 136 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 50 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 10 B5N2 Kate x 18 D3A1 Val x 18 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 2 damaged D3A1 Val: 1 damaged Allied Ships CV Wasp, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage CA Vincennes CLAA San Juan CA Quincy Aircraft Attacking: 18 x D3A1 Val bombing from 8000 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 18 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 12000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CV Wasp Morning Air attack on TF, near Stewart Island at 117,137 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 82 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 32 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 64 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 22 SBD-3 Dauntless x 28 TBF-1 Avenger x 13 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 5 destroyed SBD-3 Dauntless: 6 destroyed, 8 damaged TBF-1 Avenger: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese Ships CV Shokaku CV Soryu CV Hiryu DD Kawakaze Aircraft Attacking: 10 x SBD-3 Dauntless bombing from 16000 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 6 x SBD-3 Dauntless bombing from 16000 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb 6 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp. CAP engaged: Soryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 22000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes 5 planes vectored on to bombers Hiryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (4 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 21000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes 7 planes vectored on to bombers Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 16000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes 8 planes vectored on to bombers Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 22000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes 15 planes vectored on to bombers --------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Stewart Island at 117,137 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 127 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 50 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 51 Allied aircraft SBD-3 Dauntless x 12 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses SBD-3 Dauntless: 8 destroyed, 1 damaged Japanese Ships CV Soryu CV Zuikaku Aircraft Attacking: 3 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb CAP engaged: Soryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 19000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes Hiryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 20000 and 22000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 23000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 3 plane(s) intercepting now. 7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 16000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes --------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Stewart Island at 117,137 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 44 Allied aircraft TBF-1 Avenger x 16 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak Japanese Ships CV Shokaku CV Hiryu Aircraft Attacking: 7 x TBF-1 Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp. CAP engaged: Soryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 8 plane(s) intercepting now. 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes Hiryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 9 plane(s) intercepting now. 4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 12080. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (7 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling) 7 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 23000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling) 8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 10000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ndeni at 120,143 Weather in hex: Thunderstorms Raid detected at 159 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 67 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 32 B5N2 Kate x 45 D3A1 Val x 18 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 6 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 8 damaged B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak D3A1 Val: 1 damaged D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed Allied Ships CVE Long Island DD Lardner xAP Rangitiki, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk DD Duncan xAP Tjisadane, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk PC Warrego, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk DD Gwin CL Adelaide Aircraft Attacking: 17 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 18 x D3A1 Val bombing from 8000 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 11 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet 27 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 8 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet 4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet CAP engaged: VF-71 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 18000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 60 minutes VMF-223 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kirakira at 116,140 Weather in hex: Light rain Raid detected at 124 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 46 minutes Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 36 D3A1 Val x 35 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 4 damaged D3A1 Val: 2 damaged D3A1 Val: 1 destroyed by flak Allied Ships DD Tucker, Bomb hits 1, on fire BB North Carolina, Torpedo hits 1 AP Heywood, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage DD O'Brien DD McCalla AK Betelgeuse AP George F. Elliot DD Stuart AP J. Franklin Bell, Bomb hits 2 DD Hughes AK Bellatrix, Bomb hits 1, on fire Aircraft Attacking: 17 x D3A1 Val bombing from 8000 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 9 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 18 x D3A1 Val bombing from 8000 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 27 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

ADB123 -> RE: Aug 3/4 (8/17/2011 3:43:37 AM)
quote: How the f**k did he sneak this in on me? I have 52 PBYs operating out of Ndeni. Bad weather, 2-day turns, the KB... How did you have your PBYs set?

herwin -> RE: Aug 3/4 (8/17/2011 3:57:56 AM)
Good weather. 1-day turns. PBYs allocated 270-360 degrees. Of course, he's in the middle of five SAGs at a range of 92-184 nm, and I have 200 naval attack aircraft in easy range if he doesn't make like a tree and leave in the morning. I've loaded up 80 PBYs with torpedoes, too. At least most of my heavy carriers were elsewhere being refitted. And yes, it was a deliberate trap.

ADB123 -> RE: Aug 3/4 (8/17/2011 9:28:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: herwin Good weather. 1-day turns. PBYs allocated 270-360 degrees. Of course, he's in the middle of five SAGs at a range of 92-184 nm, and I have 200 naval attack aircraft in easy range if he doesn't make like a tree and leave in the morning. I've loaded up 80 PBYs with torpedoes, too. At least most of my heavy carriers were elsewhere being refitted. And yes, it was a deliberate trap. Ah, my mistake. The way that you wrote "August 3/4" lead me to believe that you were doing 2 day turns. What I meant about the PBYs is altitude/%search. BTW - has the KB caught any of your surface combat TFs yet?

herwin -> Aug 4/5 (8/17/2011 6:05:11 PM)
August 4/5 1942 The 2nd and 5th Cardivs avoid a surface fight and slip away. How do you pull off a naval strike by PBYs?

herwin -> Aug 5/6 (8/17/2011 9:17:51 PM)
August 5/6 1942 Koepang falls. Bad day at Ndeni. Interesting that 200 aircraft just sit there. It's fully built out. Morning Air attack on TF, near Ndeni at 120,143 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 147 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 55 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 31 B5N2 Kate x 57 D3A1 Val x 35 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 23 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak D3A1 Val: 2 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed Allied Ships CVE Long Island, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage AK Bellatrix, Bomb hits 5, on fire AP Fuller DD Buchanan, Bomb hits 1, on fire DD Russell CL Marblehead DD Mustin, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk CL Adelaide, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 9 x D3A1 Val bombing from 8000 feet * Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb 8 x D3A1 Val bombing from 8000 feet * Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb 26 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 12000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 9 x D3A1 Val bombing from 8000 feet * Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb 17 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 13 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 9 x D3A1 Val bombing from 8000 feet * Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb CAP engaged: VF-71 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 18000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes VMF-223 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling) (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 3000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes VMF-122 with F4F-4 Wildcat (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 12 scrambling) (5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 12000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Long Island Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AK Bellatrix --------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ndeni at 120,143 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid detected at 155 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 66 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 29 B5N2 Kate x 72 Allied aircraft F4F-4 Wildcat x 6 Japanese aircraft losses A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CVE Long Island, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Aaron Ward AP Fuller, Bomb hits 1 CL Adelaide, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk CL Marblehead, Bomb hits 1, on fire AK Betelgeuse, Bomb hits 1, on fire DD Buchanan, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage AK Bellatrix, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 18 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 12000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 10 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet 27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 12000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 5 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet 27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 12000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 8 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet CAP engaged: VMF-122 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 62 minutes VF-71 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 18000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 55 minutes VMF-223 with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) (3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Long Island Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Buchanan Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AK Bellatrix Morning Air attack on TF, near Ndeni at 118,143 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 19 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 11 B5N2 Kate x 9 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AP J. Franklin Bell, Bomb hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage AP George F. Elliot, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 9 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 12000 feet Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb Carrier support unable to supply air cover.. Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AP J. Franklin Bell --------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Ndeni at 118,143 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 7 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 10 B5N2 Kate x 5 No Japanese losses Allied Ships AK Arcturus, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk AP George F. Elliot, on fire, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 5 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

herwin -> RE: Aug 5/6 (8/17/2011 9:33:59 PM)
I currently have a fully built-out airfield at Ndeni with about 120 naval attack aircraft and (initially) about 80 fighters, none of which launched over the last three days.Very weird indeed.

ADB123 -> RE: Aug 4/5 (8/17/2011 9:37:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: herwin August 4/5 1942 The 2nd and 5th Cardivs avoid a surface fight and slip away. How do you pull off a naval strike by PBYs? Method A - Set the Cats in torpedo range of "soft", undefended shipping targets Method B - Have an overwhelming number of long range fighters on "escort" at a very large airfield with a good Air HQ and good Air HQ commander, and hope for luck with the weather

ADB123 -> RE: Aug 5/6 (8/17/2011 9:42:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: herwin I currently have a fully built-out airfield at Ndeni with about 120 naval attack aircraft and (initially) about 80 fighters, none of which launched over the last three days.Very weird indeed. - Are the Naval attack aircraft carrier planes or Marine planes? - Do you have an Air HQ present with an aggressive Air Leader? - How far is it to the KB? - How many of your fighters are set to Escort, and how many to CAP? - Do your fighters have the range to escort your bombers to the KB? - Do you have aggressive leaders in your naval attack squadrons? - Do the Naval Attack squadron pilots have high experience? - Do you have lots of Supply present? - How big is the Airfield? - Do you have many planes on Naval Search? - Do you have a percentage of your attack squadrons set to Naval Search? - How is the weather? You replied before that it was "clear", but the Combat Report said the weather was bad.

herwin -> RE: Aug 5/6 (8/18/2011 4:44:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ADB123 quote: ORIGINAL: herwin I currently have a fully built-out airfield at Ndeni with about 120 naval attack aircraft and (initially) about 80 fighters, none of which launched over the last three days.Very weird indeed. - Are the Naval attack aircraft carrier planes or Marine planes? USMC, later with about 50 carrier added. quote: - Do you have an Air HQ present with an aggressive Air Leader? Yes quote: - How far is it to the KB? 6 hexes quote: - How many of your fighters are set to Escort, and how many to CAP? 30% CAP, 70% escort. quote: - Do your fighters have the range to escort your bombers to the KB? Yes--F4Fs quote: - Do you have aggressive leaders in your naval attack squadrons? Yes quote: - Do the Naval Attack squadron pilots have high experience? 50-60, increasing with the arrival of the Wasp and Long Island squadrons. quote: - Do you have lots of Supply present? About 23000 quote: - How big is the Airfield? Level 5 quote: - Do you have many planes on Naval Search? 12 PBYs day, 4 night quote: - Do you have a percentage of your attack squadrons set to Naval Search? One SBD at 40% quote: - How is the weather? You replied before that it was "clear", but the Combat Report said the weather was bad. Overcast.

herwin -> RE: Aug 5/6 (8/18/2011 4:58:46 PM)
To summarise after about a half dozen carrier engagements in 1942: 1. Based on comments by michaelm and my opponent--who is seeing the same thing with his Emilies--it appears long range search is highly unreliable. You need four PBY squadrons searching at 50% to provide reliable long range early warning along a known attack vector. One night search, one maximum range, and the other two at shorter range. 2. Land based air at a fully stocked level 5 airbase won't launch against a 4-carrier KB. 3. IJN air is over-rated. 4. USN/USMC air is under-rated. So trying to replicate Midway, Eastern Solomons, or Santa Cruz will almost always result in a major USN defeat.

ADB123 -> RE: Aug 5/6 (8/18/2011 10:18:01 PM)
After looking at your responses here are a few thoughts: 1 - 50-60 Experience Allied pilots won't often pass a launch check if the weather is anything less than perfect and the target is heavily protected 2 - You only have around 50 Wildcats for escort, and they have to pass a launch check. If they fail, the bombers aren't likely to go. 3 - I find that US Naval Attack squadrons launch more often if each squadron has 10 or 20 % assigned to "Search" - they seem to like to play follow-the-leader 4 - I've found that it is difficult to get "landed" USN planes to launch against naval targets (I don't know why - perhaps they need a CV to add to their launch-check odds) 5 - Six hexes is at the edge of "normal" range for the Wildcats and near the edge for US Divebombers. I've found that USN planes are less likely to go after distant targets than close targets. Generally I prefer the targest to be within 4 hexes to get better odds of a launch. 6 - Only 12 PBYs on Search generally isn't enough BTW - Did your Search planes report spotting the KB? If so, when in the turn? Spotting late in the turn won't give enough time to launch an attack.

herwin -> RE: Aug 5/6 (8/18/2011 10:42:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ADB123 After looking at your responses here are a few thoughts: 1 - 50-60 Experience Allied pilots won't often pass a launch check if the weather is anything less than perfect and the target is heavily protected Was anyone on Midway Island > 50-60 experience? quote: 2 - You only have around 50 Wildcats for escort, and they have to pass a launch check. If they fail, the bombers aren't likely to go. Midway launched with 21 F2As and 7 F4Fs quote: 3 - I find that US Naval Attack squadrons launch more often if each squadron has 10 or 20 % assigned to "Search" - they seem to like to play follow-the-leader Makes sense. Only the PBYs were searching at Midway. quote: 4 - I've found that it is difficult to get "landed" USN planes to launch against naval targets (I don't know why - perhaps they need a CV to add to their launch-check odds) The TBF-1s launched. quote: 5 - Six hexes is at the edge of "normal" range for the Wildcats and near the edge for US Divebombers. I've found that USN planes are less likely to go after distant targets than close targets. Generally I prefer the targest to be within 4 hexes to get better odds of a launch. Agreed. The KB at Midway was detected at 175 nm. quote: 6 - Only 12 PBYs on Search generally isn't enough Agreed. Midway had 31. quote: BTW - Did your Search planes report spotting the KB? If so, when in the turn? Spotting late in the turn won't give enough time to launch an attack. Checking... On the 3rd (16 PBYs searching), the Japanese TF was detected by a Wasp SBD, not by any PBYs. On the 5th (52 PBYs searching), the Japanese TF was detected by PBYs in the morning.

herwin -> Aug 6/7 (8/18/2011 10:51:35 PM)
No significant actions.

ADB123 -> RE: Aug 6/7 (8/19/2011 1:32:54 AM)
Harry - What you are running into is the effect of the evolution of the Air Model in the Game, which includes input from previous versions and previous Gary Grigsby Pacific war games. There were a number of situations that were considered to be problems in the past, and thus drove modifications to the Air Model engine: - Search planes were felt to be too efficient, so their efficiency was reduced - Planes were felt to fly too often, so their ability to launch was constrained by various factors, such as pilot experience - Unescorted bombers were usually slaughtered by CAP, so the Engine was adjusted to "know" if there was a lot of CAP and then to prevent unescorted bomber attacks from launching - At various times bomber defences were improved against fighters, and then reduced again later - and others that I've forgotten over the years As the non-Beta version of WitP AE stands today, it appears to me that pilot experience is the primary factor in determining of squadrons will fly or not. This is most obvious in the first six months of a campaign game where it "seems" as if the Japanese can launch at will and the Allies planes never take off when they are needed. The biggest tangible difference between the two opposing air forces is the experience of the pilots. The next most important factor appears to be the distance to the target. I am playing two Japanese pbems along with the Allied pbem that I report on here. In my Japanese pbems I find that my 2E LBA doesn't fly often against naval targets at the extremes of the bomber's ranges. And that is with high experience pilots. The third most important factor is the Weather, which is usually different at each individual locale than the overall weather map says. Pilots with higher experience tend to fly more often in bad weather than less experienced pilots. But distance is still a factor. What this means in 1942 in the Game is that if the Japanese player keeps the KB together he will usually get results similar to those of the Pearl Harbor attack, the Indian Ocean raid, and the Raid on Darwin. Only if the Japanese player splits up the KB into historically smaller units does the opportunity for Coral Sea/Midway type battles occur. And yes, I've experienced that myself where I split the KB and was ambushed. I sank the opposing CVs but it was a pyrrhic victory. When I've left the KB together I have been able to drive off any 1942 attack. What the Game does is to allow the Japanese player to not play "stupid" and to avoid some of the historical mistakes of the Japanese in 1942. What you are seeing is your opponent optimizing the use of the KB against the weaknesses of the Allies.

herwin -> RE: Aug 6/7 (8/19/2011 2:49:11 AM)
Yes, my opponent has been using this PBEM to learn how to optimise his use of the massed KB (plus the massed assets of the Combined Fleet he uses to protect it). However, in none of the real engagements you list was there effective air opposition. I would expect there to be diseconomies of scale, and the game misses those for the most part. The interesting thing about this engagement is what it shows about the likely outcome at Midway. They've evolved the air model past where it should be. That's the reason for my discussion over on the other forum.

herwin -> Aug 7/8 (8/19/2011 2:55:55 AM)
August 7/8 1942 A couple of night shore bombardments and lots of air activity. The Chinese and Philippinos beat up on the Japanese.

herwin -> Aug 8/9 (8/19/2011 5:40:48 PM)
August 8/9 1942 Question for the peanut gallery: what is required of an air base for it to be a functional equivalent of a large carrier? Note you can't sink it, so your goal would be to shut it down. Japanese eject Australian scouts from Buna.

herwin -> Aug 9/10 (8/19/2011 9:30:46 PM)
August 9/10 1942 Oopsie for the Japanese Ground combat at 78,91 (near Davao) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 1821 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 60 Defending force 1906 troops, 25 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 74 Japanese adjusted assault: 12 Allied adjusted defense: 8 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: op mode(-), leaders(+), leaders(-), fatigue(-) experience(-) Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-) Japanese ground losses: 253 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 26 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled Assaulting units: 16th Naval Guard Unit Defending units: 103rd PA Infantry Regiment Oopsie for the Chinese Ground combat at Ningsia (84,33) Allied Shock attack Attacking force 12090 troops, 75 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 420 Defending force 11607 troops, 78 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 381 Allied adjusted assault: 268 Japanese adjusted defense: 352 Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1) Combat modifiers Defender: forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-) Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-) Japanese ground losses: 327 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 26 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Allied ground losses: 876 casualties reported Squads: 4 destroyed, 56 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Assaulting units: 82nd Chinese Corps Defending units: 12th Indpt Infantry Regiment 11th Indpt Infantry Regiment 13th Indpt Infantry Regiment Focus in Burma Night Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 6 Allied aircraft Wellington Ic x 9 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Wellington Ic: 4 damaged Aircraft Attacking: 9 x Wellington Ic bombing from 15000 feet City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb CAP engaged: 24th Sentai/A with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling) 2 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 20000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes --------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 13 Allied aircraft Hurricane IIb Trop x 11 B-25C Mitchell x 21 B-26 Marauder x 31 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 13 damaged Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground Ki-49-Ia Helen: 2 destroyed on ground A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged Airbase hits 12 Runway hits 19 Aircraft Attacking: 4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 12 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 11 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 10 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb 9 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 20000 feet Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb CAP engaged: 24th Sentai/B with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 16000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes 1 planes vectored on to bombers 24th Sentai/C with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling) 1 plane(s) intercepting now. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 21000 and 22000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes --------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 11 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 6 Allied aircraft Hurricane I Trop x 8 Hurricane IIb Trop x 8 P-40E Warhawk x 12 No Japanese losses No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 8 x Hurricane I Trop sweeping at 15000 feet 5 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 20000 feet 7 x P-40E Warhawk sweeping at 15000 feet * 3 x P-40E Warhawk sweeping at 15000 feet * CAP engaged: 24th Sentai/B with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling) 0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 16000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes 24th Sentai/C with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 21000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 63 minutes --------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 8 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 4 Allied aircraft Hurricane IIb Trop x 27 Japanese aircraft losses Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 4 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 20000 feet 9 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 20000 feet 4 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 20000 feet CAP engaged: 24th Sentai/B with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling) 4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact. Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 19000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes --------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 12 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 4 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 1 Allied aircraft Hurricane IIb Trop x 7 P-40E Warhawk x 8 No Japanese losses Allied aircraft losses Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed Aircraft Attacking: 7 x P-40E Warhawk sweeping at 15000 feet * 3 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 20000 feet CAP engaged: 24th Sentai/B with Ki-43-Ic Oscar (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling) Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 28000. Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes --------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Magwe , at 57,47 Weather in hex: Heavy cloud Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 9 minutes Allied aircraft Hurricane IIb Trop x 6 Hurricane IIc Trop x 11 No Allied losses Aircraft Attacking: 11 x Hurricane IIc Trop sweeping at 20000 feet * 3 x Hurricane IIb Trop sweeping at 20000 feet

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