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M60A3TTS -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T20 (8/17/2011 1:58:52 PM)

Speaking of cav corps, it's a good move to use the new rifle divisions you have coming in from the east to replace the cavalry ones in the front lines.  Start pulling the cavalry together for merging into corps.  That way they will be ready for quick use at the start of blizzard.



larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T20 (8/17/2011 3:21:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS
Speaking of cav corps, it's a good move to use the new rifle divisions you have coming in from the east to replace the cavalry ones in the front lines.  Start pulling the cavalry together for merging into corps.  That way they will be ready for quick use at the start of blizzard.

Great idea. I'll do it. I've noticed that I can't build any Rifle Corps yet. That and no tank Corps yet. I don't have the date that they will be available memorized yet like the rest of you guys.

I've been beginning each new turn by looking at the units, sorting on ascending "%TOE", and setting all those units with less than 90% TOE to refit and all those 90 or higher to "reserve" . The scroll thumb is hardly 1/3 the way down the scroll bar which means that most of my units are refit and ready for combat.

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M60A3TTS -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T20 (8/17/2011 3:25:25 PM)

Soviet Unit Creation List

Formation Date Note
Combined Arms Army HQ Jun-41
Rifle Division Jun-41
Cavalry Division Jun-41
AT Artillery Brigade Jun-41
PVO AA Brigade Jun-41
Motorcycle Regiment Jun-41
BM Howitzer Regiment Jun-41
Corps Artillery Regiment Jun-41
Howitzer Regiment Jun-41
Gun Regiment Jun-41
Heavy Gun Regiment Jun-41
PVO AA Regiment Jun-41
PVO AA Battalion Jun-41
AA Battalion Jun-41
Sapper Battalion Jun-41
Sapper Regiment Jun-41
Construction Battalion Jun-41
RR Construction Brigade Jun-41
Mortar Battalion Jun-41
Heavy Mortar Battalion Jun-41
Fortified Region Jun-41
MG-Artillery Battalion Jun-41
AT Artillery Regiment Jul-41
Light Rocket Regiment Aug-41
Separate Tank Battalion Aug-41
Tank Brigade Sep-41
Rifle Brigade Sep-41
Army Artillery Regiment Sep-41
Artillery Regiment RVGK Sep-41
Light Rocket Battalion Sep-41
Ski Battalion Nov-41
Cavalry Corps Dec-41 *
Light Gun Brigade Jan-42
Light Howitzer Brigade Jan-42
Light Gun Regiment Jan-42
Mortar Regiment Jan-42
Tank Corps Apr-42 *
Motorized Brigade Apr-42
AT-Rifle Battalion Apr-42
Gun Brigade May-42
Flamethrower Company May-42
Rifle Corps Jun-42 *
Mountain Corps Jun-42 *
Guards Airborne Division Jun-42 *
Heavy AT Regiment Jun-42
AA Regiment Jun-42
Heavy Rocket Battalion Jun-42
Tank Army HQ Jul-42
Flame Tank Battalion Jul-42
TD Artillery Battalion Aug-42
Mechanized Corps Sep-42 *
Mechanized Brigade Sep-42
Ski Brigade Sep-42
Separate Tank Regiment Sep-42
Artillery Division Oct-42
Heavy Tank Regiment Oct-42
Heavy Rocket Brigade Nov-42
Mountain Mortar Regiment Nov-42
Rocket Launcher Division Dec-42
Breakthrough Artillery Division Mar-43
Light SU Regiment Mar-43
Medium SU Regiment Mar-43
Heavy SU Regiment Mar-43
Mortar Brigade Apr-43
Assault Engineer Sapper Brigade May-43
Army Gun Artillery Regiment May-43
Heavy Gun Artillery Division Jun-43
Corps Artillery Battalion Jun-43
Flamethrower Battalion Jun-43
Gun Artillery Division Sep-43
Light SU Brigade Feb-44
Flame Tank Regiment May-44
Medium SU Brigade Jan-45
Heavy Tank Brigade Feb-45
Heavy SU Brigade Mar-45

Note:
*formed out of components, cannot be built directly



larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T20 (8/17/2011 3:51:45 PM)

@M60A3TTS

thanks for the list but I had it already.  Handy little list to have around sometimes.

EDIT: I made a picture of the front lines at the end of T21 and at the beginning of T22 before any Soviet movement so this animation
should have the Axis movement depicted for T22: Kevin is backing his units away from mine to cut down on attrition losses I guess.

[image]local://upfiles/16287/3113CE9D31E54B7DB68691CEDC45F58B.gif[/image]



larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T22 (8/17/2011 4:08:27 PM)

Here's the OOB, losses, destroyed units and production of T22:

[image]local://upfiles/16287/3495354CFD5E4E3DA5A453D4E3356B16.gif[/image]



larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T22 (8/17/2011 4:13:37 PM)

I'm building the 48th Army to be tanks only and so I've added some more tanks to the 48th Army to make it even bigger yet.

[image]local://upfiles/16287/A66D36E42BDE4DB98502A701119A6C67.gif[/image]



larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T22 (8/17/2011 4:34:48 PM)

If I sort my Army and Corps HQ units by Higher Headquarters then I can see at a glance how many Armies are attached to each of the Front HQ's.

[image]local://upfiles/16287/68682D16519C4976BD016580D18DEBBE.gif[/image]



larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T22 (8/17/2011 4:57:29 PM)

I did some Axis air base strikes and got some good hits on Kevin's recon planes. He might ought to consider parking some fighters at all his bases and mostly ignore what kind of planes are "supposed" to go on which base. I've made some successful strikes on bases that have only bombers and recon planes. Only a handful of his bases have only fighters on the hex. Of course spreading them out would dulite the air-fighter-ness of the fighter units. I guess.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T22 (8/17/2011 5:07:10 PM)

I've got the 48th Army, the tank only army, in Reserve in the north theater and I'm thinking I might need to move them south to the
Crimea to take advantage of the better terrain down there. What do you guys think?



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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T22 (8/17/2011 6:11:16 PM)

I moved 66 of the 70 T-34 factories out of Kharkov while it was still possible. That gave me 55% damage at the destination, which I don't remember which one it is now. Not that it's important. Some small town in the far north east.

[image]local://upfiles/16287/149ED2AA3F4146B4A1A5C313D6F356B3.gif[/image]



larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T22 (8/17/2011 6:19:05 PM)

Here's the moves I made as the Soviet. I tried to move up to his units and attack if possible.



[image]local://upfiles/16287/355C2D60DF1541F3BF29B6DB81A24A9C.gif[/image]



larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T23 (8/17/2011 10:27:44 PM)

Here's the T23 front lines before any Soviet movement

[image]local://upfiles/16287/29CAF3646AB2476A87A493A70E45B5C6.gif[/image]



Q-Ball -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T23 (8/17/2011 10:41:52 PM)

Is he withdrawing in the Southern Ukraine? If so that makes no sense at all. Put piles of Cav Corps down there, and rampage west.

You should have a terrific Blizzard if you mass your forces correctly.



larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T23 (8/17/2011 11:26:50 PM)

Here's the OOB, losses, destroyed units, and production:

[image]local://upfiles/16287/3832D7C540FF4FC49E94210241FA5D68.gif[/image]



larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T23 (8/17/2011 11:29:08 PM)

I had just enough rail cap. to move the vehicle industry out of Kharkov. Well, 19 of the 20 points at least.

[image]local://upfiles/16287/70EED32DDBB14400B516A0BF8CECF834.gif[/image]



larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T23 (8/17/2011 11:40:54 PM)

Here's my Soviet moves. I moved up to his lines again. He keeps backing up to keep me from making any deliberate attacks I think.

[image]local://upfiles/16287/7A227085FA0D4372ABC4DB02630C6817.gif[/image]



larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T23 (8/18/2011 3:49:42 AM)

Here's a closeup of T24 Leningrad now ( after Soviet moves )

[image]local://upfiles/16287/D87BD3573D5E4B78A719BACDD596051D.gif[/image]



larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T24 (8/18/2011 4:00:21 AM)

Here's T24 Smolensk now a days.



[image]local://upfiles/16287/3ED88F5F5DB44E269C70599061C0CDA5.gif[/image]



Scook_99 -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T24 (8/18/2011 4:43:36 PM)

Hmm, depending on your opponent withdrawing, you may have a pocket attempt on his troops east of Valukie Luki. I would push your troops north of that area SW through the swamps, and your Smolensk offensive keep pushing west. Any mobile formations you can muster (aka, your tank army, and any calvary corps, unless you take them south to break him there) should swing north through the gap you are opening towards Valukie Luki. You will either take that whole area from his retreat, making your north infinity defensible in 1942. It looks like you wouldn't have to commit your mobile forces just yet, you have a turn or two more to see what he does.



larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T25 (8/18/2011 11:23:48 PM)

Here's the T25 ( 4DEC1941 ) front lines before any Soviet movement

[image]local://upfiles/16287/A254A62B31704D008091378CEEE55F9B.gif[/image]



Q-Ball -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T23 (8/18/2011 11:37:03 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

He keeps backing up to keep me from making any deliberate attacks I think.


Maybe not a bad idea....but not in SNOW! If he's running in SNOW turns, it's going to be pretty brutal for him in Blizzard.

Get your Cav Corps ready...this is going to be a wipeout. See you in Poland, Comrade!



Flapdrol -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T23 (8/19/2011 2:23:40 AM)

The war is already over. He is way too far west, doesn't have Leningrad, didn't cause enough casualties and didn't capture enough factories. Gaining the Cherkassy-Gomel-Mogilev-Vitebsk-VL line seems almost a given. Additionally, he has to stop running somewhere or you will retake Kiev, Pskov and even Minsk. And once he stops, you will be fighting unfortified Germans in Blizzard.

Basically you have an auto-win from here. Launch a broad front offensive with many local attacks aimed at causing casualties, and perhaps cutting off some individual units. Reach a defensible stop-line for Spring 42. Use early/mid 42 to fortify, build up corps, and start bulldozing him off the map starting in mid/late 42 by virtue of a vastly superior replacement rate.



larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T25 (8/19/2011 4:39:51 AM)

Here's the OOB, losses, destroyed units, and production

[image]local://upfiles/16287/D7FCB298AF514459B6FE224FBE09E9A5.gif[/image]



larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T25 (8/19/2011 4:52:53 AM)

Here's a close-up of the Lake Ladoga area now.

[image]local://upfiles/16287/813B983A5095404CAD39C7817067E454.gif[/image]



larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.36 KLilly vs Fulkerson T25 (8/19/2011 5:38:34 AM)

Here's my moves and the overlay of my attacks

[image]local://upfiles/16287/7751105C4C8A4904A5852A55EE152330.gif[/image]



larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T26 (8/20/2011 4:05:10 AM)

Here's the T26 front lines before any Soviet movement



[image]local://upfiles/16287/17CF006335144F3DB2670005EB6565DD.gif[/image]



kfmiller41 -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T26 (8/20/2011 4:15:50 AM)

you move him down south far enough past odessa, the Rumanians and Hungarians will surrender, thats what happened to me in my game, came as a shock.



larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T26 (8/20/2011 5:12:05 AM)

I did some Axis air base strikes and got some good hits. He's still not parking some fighters on bases that have non-fighters based there. I mean he's got bombers and recon at a base where there's no fighters in the hex on their air base. I'm pretty sure he'd have less losses if he did that.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T26 (8/20/2011 5:14:42 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: miller41
...came as a shock.

Coolness. Nice that a simple game can exercise our emotions too.



larryfulkerson -> RE: 1.04.39 KLilly vs Fulkerson T26 (8/20/2011 5:25:55 AM)

An animation of my moves and attacks. I'll post the ground losses due to my attacks in the next panel.

[image]local://upfiles/16287/F79328D28EE345CC88C345500CB35197.gif[/image]



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