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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (6/13/2012 2:51:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: randallw

Are you still having an AP shortage? I see a few stray units in your Saratov area with mixed Front colors.


Yesssss [:D] As for the mixed front colours, not really. What you see in this area is Voronezh and then Don Fronts armies. I have brought of course some Stavka armies + the tank armies + the Cavalry Corps (attached to Stavka right now) already mentioned. It's the tank brigades and cavalry divisions that brought this colourful thing. I simply can't afford the APs (I'm still focusing on the creation of rifle divisions) [8D]

I am not really a cheap bastard, me pockets are empty, that's all. And yes, I hate chaos above all things! [:D]

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M60A3TTS -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (7/1/2012 4:56:54 AM)

Into 1943 yet?




TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (7/2/2012 1:04:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

Into 1943 yet?


Yes [:)]

I sent the turn a few days ago (7 january 1943). I have been very busy and of course I have been watching the Euro Cup (now it's over).

Anyway, my fears were justified. Marquo has finally spreaded his panzers (the ones which were sort of visiting the area north of the Caucasus) behind the front in the main offensive area. Needless to say he's striked and under these circumstances I will hardly advance.

I will possibly give up come spring if I don't get close to Kursk. And most important, there's NO way at all I can have a historical Red Army (lack of APs): rifle corps, artillery divisions, mechanized corps (not a single one yet). I simply can't see how I will get this.

If I don't have this historical army it does not make any sense methinks. Therefore I will ADMIT DEFEAT and give up. After all, Mark has enjoyed two major summer offensives, but I don't think I will get my reward (well, if I really deserve it in the first place): getting to Berlin or at least getting near to the scummy enemy's capital [:D]

Time will tell.




randallw -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (7/2/2012 7:05:12 PM)

Surrender? Noooooooooo!




M60A3TTS -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (7/6/2012 4:18:29 AM)

If you have an opportunity, would you post the screenie of the production #s that show manpower, vehicles, etc?




TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (7/6/2012 12:08:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

If you have an opportunity, would you post the screenie of the production #s that show manpower, vehicles, etc?


Of course [:)]

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (7/6/2012 12:16:10 PM)

Air production

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (7/6/2012 12:17:40 PM)

Ground production

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (7/6/2012 12:19:45 PM)

And the OOB. Finally a 7 million army.

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M60A3TTS -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (7/6/2012 12:58:37 PM)

Thanks. I've been discussing the value of heavy industry in a couple threads and wanted to see how you fared. It looks as though you took some out of the more endangered areas in 1941 and lost a total of 24 to date. Arms situation is nice too. I think Marquo's advance was done in a way that you had time to do your evacs well in the early game.




TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (7/6/2012 2:04:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

I think Marquo's advance was done in a way that you had time to do your evacs well in the early game.


Correct [:)] I don't know if this was because I was cutting off some of his armored spearheads every single turn (the first 3 or 4 turns). And perhaps most important, I was reopening pockets, especially in the south. In any case, he focused on encircling & destroying the Red Army. Not that I allowed him to do so. I didn´t! In other words, he was being systematic, methodical. One step, then another. As opposed to raiding strategies.




TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (9/15/2012 4:16:52 PM)

Turn 87

11 Februrary 1943


Well, not a lot of turns have been done (holidays basically).

As you can see we are on february 43. The first thing I have to say is I finally reached the 450 rifle divisions mark (among them 22 corps) [:(] So from now on I should focus on upgrading to the Red Army v. 2.0 [:)]

Mechanised Corps (I have zero right now), Artillery Divisions, and in fact more Tank and Cavalry Corps.

From what you could read (previous messages) I was thinking about giving up. Still, maybe (and only maybe + extra luck I suspect) I can more or less get to the general area of Kursk (let's say at 10-15 hexes). The thing is in theory this is 1943. Maybe I could keep pushing during the spring (unlike the first winter). This might give me the extra hexes I need to catch up.

Time will tell.




TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (9/15/2012 4:24:34 PM)

And here are the rifle divisions I wanted to have at all cost before I could start anything else. 449 in fact [8D]

[image]local://upfiles/11562/DA70044289C8445FBAAEB3154719408D.jpg[/image]




TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (9/15/2012 4:37:14 PM)

I have just said I had (until this turn) zero Mechanized Corps. Well, I went on a crazy shopping spree and spent all 60 APs. Therefore now I have the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Mechanized Corps. Marquo, watch your back! [sm=00000612.gif]

I already know how I want to organize my 5 Tank Armies. 2 Tank Corps + 1 Mechanized Corps (as per history + as per CP maximum [:D]). The extra tank and mechanized corps should be assigned to some concrete fronts (not to armies or Stavka): in places where action is more than expected.

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (9/15/2012 4:49:58 PM)

In the main offensive area Marquo systematically leaves some buffer hexes each turn (1, 2 or even 3). Needless to say I also systematically advance and try to kick him in the groin every time I can.

Here you can see an example of this unacceptable coward approach [sm=00000612.gif], pre Soviet moves, of course.

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Michael T -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (9/15/2012 10:41:55 PM)

Thats the spirit TD :)




randallw -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (9/16/2012 10:45:32 AM)

Well at least those mech corps will be ready for Kursk. [;)]




TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (9/20/2012 11:52:42 PM)

Turn 88

18 Februrary 1943


History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce” -- Karl Marx

Serafimovich, Kalach... LOL I'm aiming at these two locations! [:D]

Obviously it's not going to work (but hey, who really knows anyway!) but let's see if I have a good laugh, because in the end that's what matters! [8D]

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M60A3TTS -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (9/21/2012 1:16:35 AM)

Marquo needs to protect his flanks with more Rumanians and Italians. [:)]




TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (10/6/2012 5:46:01 PM)

Turn 92

18 March 1943


The winter offensive is in theory over. Kursk is still far away [:(] Anyway, given that the game is too kind with the offensive side, I might take more hexes, because I already have offensive plans, I plan to keep pushing no matter the losses. That or surrender. Now if a patch fixes that I am busted [:D]


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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (10/6/2012 5:56:04 PM)

Alrite then.

As for the Red Army v. 2.0...

Right now I already have, refitting in the rear:
- 25 Regular / Breakthrough Divisions
- 7 Rocket Divisions

I plan to build these divisions as per history (37/7). So I need 12 more regular/breakthrough divisions. And this will be done in the next two turns: 6 per turn = 60 APs.

In fact I have mentioned above "offensive plans". These divisions are part of this scheme.

Once I have the artillery divisions I will start creating Rifle Corps.

Priority?

The armies in the offensive area, grosso modo the area that leads to er... Kursk [:D]

Then the Reserve Armies will be the next that will get rifle corps (in fact they already have some). I have already extricated the 1st Guards, 39, 58, 61 armies. Along with the five Shock Armies (not extricated yet) they should make the Stavka reserves.

And of course the five Tank Armies (still fighting).




TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (10/6/2012 6:09:34 PM)

In fact this this is the first rudimentary idea, plan.

But of course, no plan survives contact with the enemy. Marquo has to have his own cunning plans, so we will see [8D]

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (10/6/2012 6:17:27 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

Marquo needs to protect his flanks with more Rumanians and Italians. [:)]


Too bad Marquo dared to open history books! [:D] The weak allies were well protected by ze Germans!




TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (10/8/2012 6:59:54 PM)

And here are the losses caused by the winter massacres. Only 400.000 losses have been inflicted on the Wehrmacht & Mates. The Red Army suffered 700.000 losses.

Still, the kill ratio (haha) is not even 2:1. More like 1,8:1

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (10/8/2012 7:02:44 PM)

The OOB. Marquo has still a big army, methinks. The Red Army numbers are not impressive, I guess [8D]

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (10/8/2012 7:06:53 PM)

The manpower & armament numbers arer rather pitiful. Yes, I have of course created rifle divisions, now artillery divisions, and then I will start with the rifle corps.

IF the armaments and manpower do NOT allow me to do this I WILL give up. I am not interested in waiting until 1944 to start an offensive that should lead me at most to er... the soviet frontier districts [:-]

EDIT: no, wait, the screenshot is wrong. These are the numbers for Christmas Eve 1942. I upload the correct one (march 1943). I knew something was wrong. The numbers are truly pitiful. I stick to my above statement. If I can't get / afford this Red Army 2.0 I give up: because I will NOT, repeat, NOT stop creating corps, artillery divisions... [;)]

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (10/12/2012 9:42:52 PM)

Turn 93

25 March 1943


One more turn and I will have the artillery divisions I need [8D]

After that, the Rifle Corps!

This turn I have extricated two more armies: the 4th Shock and 5th Shock. That means I currently have six Reserve Armies (not counting the Tank Armies).

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (10/12/2012 9:47:41 PM)

The artillery divisions (and other units) I am gathering near Gorky. I will unleash them soon (as per the Operation Crazy Ivan), well, unless Marquo has other plans! I am assuming I can conduct an offensive. And after all perhaps Marquo has still the initiative!

All the artillery units on the screenshot are divisions.

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (10/12/2012 9:51:47 PM)

The three nice Guards Airborne divisions have. I cannot create a fourth as I only have 2 brigades left.

As soon as I can afford the APs they will be attached to stavka and then sent to where they are needed.

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TulliusDetritus -> RE: Death to Marquo's Hitlerite Hordes! (10/12/2012 9:55:06 PM)

Trashed Finns. The other weak allies are well protected though (in the south). But up north it's another story. Die pigs, die! [sm=00000055.gif]

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