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Q-Ball -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/24/2011 1:00:07 PM)

Can you post OOB and production numbers? I am curious what your trajectory looks like. How much Manpower are you getting a turn?

You've lost alot of territory, but you haven't lost the war, IMO. He has alot of ground to defend, and you should be thinking about limited offensives soon; at this point, the main purpose would be to kill Germans

There are also a Shed-load of partisans in back of the front. Are you supplying them? What kind of results are you getting?




krupp_88mm -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/24/2011 1:17:15 PM)

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terje439 -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/24/2011 1:49:46 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

1) Can you post OOB and production numbers? I am curious what your trajectory looks like. How much Manpower are you getting a turn?

[]2) You've lost alot of territory, but you haven't lost the war, IMO. He has alot of ground to defend, and you should be thinking about limited offensives soon; at this point, the main purpose would be to kill Germans

3) There are also a Shed-load of partisans in back of the front. Are you supplying them? What kind of results are you getting?


1. Posted here and below, ask if you want any other screenie.

2. True, when he wheeled north instead of pushing on Stalingrad I was delighted as there is alot of nothing in the area he conquered.
Offensives... Well that will be hard. From Moscow and northwards the front is settled with both sides now in level 3 forts, and his units show an unmodified CV in the ranges of 40->99, and I do not have enough CV in three stacks to tackle something like that.
In the south we are on different sides of rivers, and forts ranging from 0->2, here too the Axis CV values are too high for an attack at the moment.
In the centre I could attack but I am not sure how good it would be, as this is where he has ALOT of reserve units, and this is also where my frontline looks like a rainbow. The fronts here are seriously mixed up, and I fear alot of attacks here will fail their HQ rolls.
That being said, I agree that the time is coming for me to attack, but I am not sure if this is just the right time, it might be better to wait for winter?

3. Yes, I have some planes dropping in supplies, and as can be seen the Axis are forced to take out about 5-8 partisan units per turn, each of which will usually do 2 or 3 attacks each on the railroads, not sure if this is good or not, but I bet the Axis feels like they are playing whack-a-mole in the rear.

OOB


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terje439 -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/24/2011 1:50:15 PM)

Production I



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terje439 -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/24/2011 1:50:43 PM)

Production II



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Q-Ball -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/24/2011 4:06:02 PM)

Your production is in pretty good shape. You didn't lose any major factories, and your Armament situation is excellent.

Your problem is probably MANPOWER. I bet you are getting under 90K per turn.

Your FRONT leaders are a bit puzzling; you may want to make some changes there. You should have guys with high ADMIN ratings, followed by Morale and Initiative

STAVKA: Budyenny shouldn't be in charge of anything. Nice mustache, but that's all he's good for. Boris is a good fit here, not sure why you moved him.

Pavlov, Remezov, Kuznetsov should probably be canned. Even a few others like Kovalev or Popov are OK, but not your A-Team.

Take a look at these guys for FRONT commands:

Konev
Vasilevsky
Vatutin
Golikov
Bagramyan

.......list goes on. I would take a look at that, if you have some APs.

Is Konev KIA? Otherwise, there is no reason to move him from Crimean Front (and whatever it becomes; I can't recall at the moment)




terje439 -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/24/2011 6:15:53 PM)

Thanks for the effort Q-Ball.
You are almost on the mark on manpower, 91.500 this turn.

It seems that I might have replaced the Stavka leader by not realizing he was allready assigned somewhere when I assigned leaders to the various fronts, and that Budyenny might have been promoted in his stead, although not sure.
Also, Stalin has sacked ALOT of my commanders so far in the game.

A question then, I have (at the moment 4 things to spend APs on (why do I keep on calling them CP???));
1. Building new units to form a reserve, of which I currently have none.
2. Forming of corps units
3. Rearranging the frontline units, so that each army commands the units in front of it, and not a few units spread all over the front.
4. Reassigning generals.

To me the priority has been 1-3-2-4 with the sole exception when I have the ability to create a Guard corps, in which case the priority becomes 1-2-3-4.
Would you prioritize differently?

Generals listed below.



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terje439 -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/24/2011 6:16:32 PM)

Follow up



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M60A3TTS -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/24/2011 6:31:05 PM)

Your priority of units over leader changes is correct, given what has been pocketed. How many rifle divisions do you have?

On the leaders, a couple potential red flags are Rokossovsky in 7th Independent Army, assuming that's still assigned to Leningrad Front. Also Bagramyan with Coastal Army, but not sure where that army is, strength, etc. I suspect their solid leaderhip values are being wasted where they are. But again, that's for fixing after you have more pressing deficiencies covered.




terje439 -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/24/2011 6:42:55 PM)

Sacked leaders
Either by me or Stalin (the latter sacking the most by far, the ones I have sacked have had very low ratings and were replaced during the early turns)
NB! These are merely sacked, NOT killed/executed.

Akhlyustin
Andreev
Artemenko
Bakunin
Batsanov
Boldin
Borisov
Dashichev
Dukanhov
Egorov
Eremin
Ermachenko
Ermakov
Falakeev
Filatov
Gorodnyansky
Goryunov
Ionov
Ivaneov
Ivanov
Izotov
Kamkov
Khryukin
Kirillov
Kirponos
Klykov
Kopets
Korobkov
Korovnikov
Kulik
Kuznetsov
Lizyukov
Meretskov
Mogilevchik
Morozov
Mostovenko
Muzychenko
Naumenko
Nikitin
Nikolaev
Petrov
Ponedelin
Popov
Povetkin
Pshennikov
Rubtsov
Rudenko
Samokhin
Selesznev
Shakt
Shumilov
Smirnov
Snegov
Sysoev
Tyurin
Usenko
Velov
Vishnevsky
Vlasov
Vostukhov
Yakovlev
Zhravlev
Zybin




terje439 -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/24/2011 7:06:28 PM)

Unit breakdown

Mountain
10 divisions

Cavalry
10 corps
13 divisions

Airborne
13 brigades

Infantry
2 Guards Rifle Corps
12 Rifle Corps
2 Guards Rifle Divisions
282 Rifle Divisions
100 Infantry brigades (including naval)

Motorized
Nothing but some regimental sized units

Mechanized
Nothing

Armoured
13 Tank Corps
30 tank brigades
5 separate tank regiments
3 separate tank battalions
1 separate flame tank battalion




terje439 -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/24/2011 7:09:30 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

1 .On the leaders, a couple potential red flags are Rokossovsky in 7th Independent Army, assuming that's still assigned to Leningrad Front.
2. Also Bagramyan with Coastal Army, but not sure where that army is, strength, etc.
3. I suspect their solid leaderhip values are being wasted where they are.



1. You are correct. He is still in the north doing nothing but digging in, ever since we halted the attempted penetration in the north.

2. At the moment Coastal Army is (did you not guess by its name? [:D]) holding the river south of Moscow. It is however low on units as that is part of the area that is being rearranged.

3. Rokossovsky - Yes, Bagramyan - No.

Thank you for your input, I greatly appreciate all that post here.

Terje




Q-Ball -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/24/2011 7:32:56 PM)

At least you haven't lost anyone too critical. Meretskov is pretty good, and Yushkevich is OK, but everyone else is basically someone you won't miss anyway

(Except for a couple air commanders who are OK)




terje439 -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/24/2011 7:52:37 PM)

Turn 70

Info
Since this is a quiet turn, it will be a partisan special for Comrade Q-ball.

Overall
A quiet turn where all that happens is 7 Axis partisan attacks, and aerial HQ attacks by us. And I can now positively say that the "kill lots of generals in one airstrike"-bug is still in effect as I killed 8 in one attack this turn.
With low numbers of attacks, casualties are reported at 23.000 Axis troops and 63.000 USSR troops this turn.
Our manpower numbers tells us that a total of 93.000 were returned to manpower pool this turn.

Partisans
6 supply drops were undertaken, and 14 sabotage actions were undertaken this turn.
90 partisan squads recruited in cities (810 men)
33 partisan cadres formed in cities
79 partisan squads recruited from the countryside (711 men)
2 partisan cadres formed in the countryside

Units
Still kicking myself here. Sent the turn before I realized that I forgot to spend my remaining 15 AP to buy a rifle division and a rifle brigade. Oh well, I will still have those points next turn, so no biggie.
So the only new unit on the map is a....yup...an airfield.
A net growth of 123.000 soldiers in our units this turn due to the low losses we had.

Generals
In the words of Freddie Mercury - Another one bites the dust.

Worries
Nothing really. Enjoying some good old fashioned mud, which also did wonders for our aerial attacks (scoring a total of 21 AFVs this turn [:)])


Oborin is arrested and executed this turn.

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terje439 -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/25/2011 9:23:57 PM)

Turn 71

Political
Stalin announced the creation of a new front, the Southwestern Front, and since he also realized that this might require some reshuffling of troops, he rewarded alot of AP this turn (185+15 from last turn =200). This will mainly be spent on rearranging the front.

Overall
Nothing happens really, mostly I believe due to the mud that covers the ground. The Axis do score 8 retreats in 8 different anti partisan attacks this turn, while we kill no less than 10 generals this turn by aerial attacks...
In the end losses are reported to be 23.000 Axis troops to our 63.000.

Partisan
At the start of our turn, 9 partisan units are active on the board (I am talking about the "proper" partisans, labelled 'P'). 9 sabotage actions were perfomed this turn, and our transport planes undertook 6 supply drops. The Germans scored 8 retreats against other partisan units, which indicate the total ammount of partisan units at the start of the Axis turn was 17.

Units
With a new front active, I decide to create yet another combined arms army as well as 4 rifle divisions and 1 light gun brigade this turn. The reshaping of the front is also coming along nicely and should be completed in a few turns. With relatively light losses this turn, our units recorded an increase of 113.000 soldiers this turn.
We also recieve the customary airfield this turn. I now have 10 empty, unused airfields on the board...

Worris
I'll have to stop my aerial attack on the Axis HQs. 10 more generals killed today. This is a slight concern as I easily kill of some 2-4.000 men this way every turn depending on the weather and forts the HQs are located in.



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terje439 -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/26/2011 3:46:44 PM)

Turn 72

Overall
Mud pretty much sums it up. We have ordered a holt on aerial attacks on HQs, and instead focus on armoured troops. Unfortunately most of the Axis fighting troops are very good at digging in, and are allready in level 2+ forts which reduce the effectiveness of our airforce.
The only ground attacks this turn was 5 Axis anti partisan attacks, which all resulted in retreats.
89.000 fresh pair of hands report to our manpower pool this turn.

Partisans
There are 10 active partisans on the field, while the Axis force 5 more to retreat. Their actions have been somewhat lacking though, with a mere 3 sabotage actions this turn. In return the ammount of supply drops were small as well, with only two being made this turn.

Units
Apart from the usual airfield, no new units are produced this turn. Our existing forces increase in strength by 110.000 troops this turn.

Worries
Wondering if I should continue to remodel the frontline or focus on building units at the moment.




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terje439 -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/27/2011 3:19:23 AM)

Turn 73

Overall
Another mud turn, so the Axis are satisfied with partisan hunting, and I am happy with bombing a few panzer divisions. The most time is spent on rearranging the front, will be nice when that is all done for sure. Then I can mix them all up and start over again I guess.
Anyway, losses were low this turn as well, with 22.000 Axis troops removed compared to our 63.000.
Our manpower pool recieved 91.000 men this turn.

Partisan
The Axis forced 4 of our partisan units to retreat this turn, leaving 7 on the map. Those 7 partisan units did no more than 3 sabotage actions this turn, a disappointing number. 6 supply drops were made behind enemy lines, however most of these were made in the north.

Units
We order the creation of 3 armoured brigades, 1 rifle brigade and 1 rifle division this turn. Stalin grants us our normal airfield...
Some more aerial units have been given orders to drop supplies to our partisans in the south to see if we can get the partisans there up to the level of those in the north.
117.000 troops are reported as the net increase in forces this turn. 5 more turns like this and we will have made good the disastrous decisions of this summers campaign.

Worries
There are 2 new German divisions at Kerch. Not sure if this is a threat or not, will have to keep an eye on that area.
Considering how easily Stalin executes officers that are not up to his standard, it is amazing that yours truely is still in charge. I think I need some bodyguards...



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terje439 -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/27/2011 10:53:58 PM)

Turn 74

Overall
Although the mud is gone and the tundra is starting to freeze, the Axis seem content with only two anti partisan attacks this turn. The Axis CV is still too high for me to attack, so all in all it is a very quiet turn.
The good news is that the reshuffling of the fronts is finally completed (well there are three divisions that needs to be railed north next turn, but that hardly counts), so from nwo on I can use my points on general replacement and unit construction.
Losses are once more light with 21.000 to 66.000. Our airforce did not succeed in destroying any tanks this turn, guess I will have to be satisfied with something like 1000 troops and 30 guns destroyed.

Partisans
We are now up to 11 supply drops. I might consider moving some level bombers to VVS airfields to increase this a little, but at the same time, those level bombers are my best bombers...
11 partisan units are left on the map after the Axis forced two of them to retreat this turn. Sadly we only get 2 sabotage actions this turn, I had hoped for more.

Units
Beside the usual airfield I create a rifle division and a rifle brigade. That was all I could afford this turn, but now I should be able to build more units as the reshuffling is over.
All across the front, we write down a net gain of 108.000 troops this turn.

Worries
Still somewhat worried about Kerch, so the units created this turn is earmarked for that area.



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terje439 -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/28/2011 5:34:08 PM)

Turn 75

Overall
Another quiet turn which shows the Axis relocating their reserves. The only attacks were my aerial attacks on various Axis divisions and 3 Axis anti partisan attacks.
I take the time to take a look at various possibilities for the winter offensive. I fear I am too weak to launch more than one operation this winter.
Our manpower pool had 90.000 returned to it, and 92.000 recruited from our manpower centres this turn.
With low ammounts of fighting, losses are once more light, with 21.000 Axis troops knocked out this turn, compared to our 64.000.

Units
I decided to create 1 tank corps, 1 Guards Rifle Corps and 2 rifle divisions this turn, and Stalin as usual hands us a new airfield. Wonder what I should do with them all...
After subtracting our losses, we record a net strength increase of 112.000 troops this turn.

Partisans
With 10 supply drops and 11 on map partisan units I am somewhat disappointed with only 3 sabotage attacks this turn. The turn started with 14 active units as the Axis forced 3 partisan units to retreat this turn.

Worries
Maybe not a worry per ce, more of a wonder. Where to launch my winter attack. It seems I will only have the strength to do one major push this winter.




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Q-Ball -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/28/2011 5:58:17 PM)

Should you be forming more Tank Bdes and Rifle units?

IMO, you get more Tank Bdes than you can realistically support, so you can afford to lose some in 1942 without replacing them. IIRC, you get around 100-ish or so, and I think more than 24 Tank Corps is tough to support logistically, at least until mid-43 or later. That's the equivalent of 75 Tank Bdes.

With Rifle units, I think you get around 450 division equivalents. You probably need 8 mil men to round all those out completely, so you can get away with less. I personally wouldn't build any, unless you are close to 100% TOE on every Rifle unit on the map, and you have excess Manpower/Armaments building in the pool.

How many Rifle Div equivalents do you have at the moment? (Count Corps as 3, and Brigades as 1/2)

Instead of creating new units, you need to be hoarding APs, so that when January '43 hits, you can start converting Rifle Div to Corps wholesale (it costs 20 APs in 1942, but only 10 in 43+, providing a large incentive to hold-off alot of Corps conversion until 1943). For my part, I want to have near the MAX in APs in Jan '43, and immediately create 40 Rifle Corps.

If you are forming any new mobile units, look at Motorized Brigades, and form them into MECH CORPS. Mech Corps unfortunately start at an experience level of 15 after formation, so they take many months to train-up. I would build a few early, giving them time to train, and build into something worthwhile. That is a better use of extra vehicles, IMO, than more Tank Bdes.

MECH CORPS are the #1 Red Army unit once they train, but you have to plan ahead to get them there. Once trained, they are the equivalent of a Panzer Division.





terje439 -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/29/2011 12:36:51 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

1) Should you be forming more Tank Bdes and Rifle units?

1a) IMO, you get more Tank Bdes than you can realistically support, so you can afford to lose some in 1942 without replacing them. IIRC, you get around 100-ish or so, and I think more than 24 Tank Corps is tough to support logistically, at least until mid-43 or later. That's the equivalent of 75 Tank Bdes.

1b) With Rifle units, I think you get around 450 division equivalents. You probably need 8 mil men to round all those out completely, so you can get away with less. I personally wouldn't build any, unless you are close to 100% TOE on every Rifle unit on the map, and you have excess Manpower/Armaments building in the pool.

1c) How many Rifle Div equivalents do you have at the moment? (Count Corps as 3, and Brigades as 1/2)

2) Instead of creating new units, you need to be hoarding APs, so that when January '43 hits, you can start converting Rifle Div to Corps wholesale (it costs 20 APs in 1942, but only 10 in 43+, providing a large incentive to hold-off alot of Corps conversion until 1943). For my part, I want to have near the MAX in APs in Jan '43, and immediately create 40 Rifle Corps.

3) If you are forming any new mobile units, look at Motorized Brigades, and form them into MECH CORPS. Mech Corps unfortunately start at an experience level of 15 after formation, so they take many months to train-up. I would build a few early, giving them time to train, and build into something worthwhile. That is a better use of extra vehicles, IMO, than more Tank Bdes.

MECH CORPS are the #1 Red Army unit once they train, but you have to plan ahead to get them there. Once trained, they are the equivalent of a Panzer Division.




1) I think I need a few more?

1a) I currently have 14 tank corps and 30 tank brigades which then just hits the number of 24 corps

1b) I have spare armaments, but you have a good point about manpower

1c) I am at 385 Rifle division equivalents, + 10 mountain division = 395, or somewhat lower than your number

2) But that again seems to me to be a way to halter me from making attacks in winter. Not attacks at all, but in the way that my CV values will be lower, and my ability to push will be limited? But the point about AP is well taken.
Also, unless I am way off, TOE of 2 divisions + 1 brigade > TOE of a corps, while CV of a corps > CV of two divisions and a brigade. This too suggests that forming corps is a good thing?

3) Thank you, that is useful info. Will take that into account, yet it seems to me that right now my major concern should be having assault troops for the winter?

Again, thank you for the feedback, I really appreciate it [&o]
Terje




M60A3TTS -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/29/2011 1:51:53 AM)

My thoughts on your Leningrad plan is that the chance of success of actually getting (to) the city is very low. You will find it exceedingly difficult in breaking through there as he'll have the ability to pile units up to plug the gaps in terrain that will favor the defender in virtually every case. And you won't extend his lines to any degree contrary to what you may suppose. Also don't forget that you don't get the same first winter bonuses this time. The only real benefit to winter now is the frozen rivers won't provide the same defensive bonuses as under normal conditions.




Q-Ball -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/29/2011 4:52:34 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

My thoughts on your Leningrad plan is that the chance of success of actually getting (to) the city is very low. You will find it exceedingly difficult in breaking through there as he'll have the ability to pile units up to plug the gaps in terrain that will favor the defender in virtually every case. And you won't extend his lines to any degree contrary to what you may suppose. Also don't forget that you don't get the same first winter bonuses this time. The only real benefit to winter now is the frozen rivers won't provide the same defensive bonuses as under normal conditions.


I think that's all true, and I highly doubt you could reach Leningrad. It's a very defensible position for the Germans; I would be surprised if any player who gained it lost it before mid-1944.

Maybe a better idea is a push straight south toward Smolensk, out of that bulge (hard to see, but I think that's where that bulge is). That would also lengthen his line (which is good thinking, BTW), but allow you to advance through better terrain. It would also unhinge any defenses to the East of that.

Rifle Corps, BTW, don't get any more CV than the combination of their units. The TOE's expand, though, so they become more powerful than 2 div + a brigade. Also, you can make attachments to a Rifle Corps, like Sappers and AT guns; very useful, and gives it more punch.

Like I said, I think you have the right idea to lengthen his lines. Mostly, you want to do that, and kill Germans.




terje439 -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/29/2011 3:23:29 PM)

Turn 76

Overall
Another quiet turn. For a while I was tempted to launch a minor attack across the river south of Moscow, but decided against it simply because it would not achieve anything but shorten the Axis front by one hex.
The Axis launched 4 anti partisan attacks this turn, and our bombers killed off about 1.000 Axis troops. That was all the action this turn. There is however something that I do not understand, and that is despite no Axis attack on my line neither on the ground nor in the air, I still lose close to 200 guns.
Even though 89.000 are returned to the manpower pool and 92.000 are added from our manpower centres, our manpower pool holds a staggering 47 troops. This validates the view of Comrade Q-Ball, that I should not build alot more units for a while.
Losses this turn are reported at 21.000 Axis to our 63.000, so nothing changes here either.

Units
I decided not to build anything this turn, I really need to find out where to focus my attack, and that soon, as I will need to relocate some forces to the front that will attack. Still I feel weak across the board. Not good.
We gained a net increase of 114.000 troops this turn.
Almost forgot to mention, we got the usual airfield this turn too...

Partisans
This was a good "partisan turn", with 6 sabotage actions performed and 17 units on the map before the Axis forced 4 of them to retreat. That still leaves 13 on the map at the end of our turn.
Somewhat low ammount of supply drops though, with no more than 7 being made this turn.

Worries
More a concern I guess, but I feel too weak to actually be able to achieve anything during winter. Those unmodified Axis defensive CV are HIGH!!



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terje439 -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/29/2011 3:27:40 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

My thoughts on your Leningrad plan is that the chance of success of actually getting (to) the city is very low. You will find it exceedingly difficult in breaking through there as he'll have the ability to pile units up to plug the gaps in terrain that will favor the defender in virtually every case. And you won't extend his lines to any degree contrary to what you may suppose. Also don't forget that you don't get the same first winter bonuses this time. The only real benefit to winter now is the frozen rivers won't provide the same defensive bonuses as under normal conditions.


Yup, did not think about terrain. As to lengthening the Axis line, that would have happened, but you are right, maybe not by alot.
So I should not expect to see the Axis defensive CV to drop? If so I am (and quoting Leonard from Big Bang Theory here)
"attached to another object by an inclined plane, wrapped helically around an axis"...
Going to be interesting to see how this winter turns out.

Again, thank you for the feedback!!

Terje




terje439 -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/29/2011 3:32:09 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
Rifle Corps, BTW, don't get any more CV than the combination of their units. The TOE's expand, though, so they become more powerful than 2 div + a brigade. Also, you can make attachments to a Rifle Corps, like Sappers and AT guns; very useful, and gives it more punch.


Now you go tme confused [:D]
When I have formed a corps, let us say by two 1CV divisions and a 1CV brigade, the corps CV usually ends up around 2 before it seem to max out around 7 or 8 which I guess is what I can get if I filled out those divisions and the brigade, HOWEVER the newly formed corps will also be listed with something like 150% on all points in terms of TOE, so I thought that ment they got the same or better CV for a lower TOE?

(hope I managed to make myself clear here, as I am too tired right now to think in english, and instead translate as I write [:)])


Terje




Joel Billings -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/29/2011 9:10:05 PM)

Did Oloren use the technique of using more than one FBD to repair the same rail line in this game (this was a bug and is no longer possible, but just curious if it was used here)?




terje439 -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/29/2011 9:14:34 PM)

Turn 77

Overall
Blizzard with level 7 ground freezing, and those Axis troops still look comfy [:(]
As usual I only fly with my airforce, and the Axis are happy hunting partisans, leaving losses once more at 22.000 to 64.000.
I am now gathering my Ad-hoc assault force, it will consist of a few rifle divisions, all my Guards Rifle Corps. 2 Rifle Corps and 2 tank Corps as well as eventually 4 artillery pieces. Not much to launch an offensive with, but all that can be spared if I am not to leave myself overly vulnerable everywhere else.
154.000 men and women were returned to the manpower pool this turn, and 92.000 new people arrive to do our bidding. Our current manpower pool is now at a staggering 43 [:)].

Units
Beside the usual airfield, we actually recieved something useful from Stalin this turn, a brand new Shock Army! I am now contemplating placing all my attacking units in this army, which will drain my AP, but might still be a good idea.
I also decided to build some artillery units this turn, 1 light gun brigade, 1 gun brigade and 1 artillery division (want to see its TOE) which will give arty support during the initial battles when we launch an attack.
A net gain in troops of 114.000 is also quite nice.

Partisans
Despite only 6 supply drops this turn, our guys were very busy, conducting 11 sabotage actions this turn. After the Axis force 5 of our partisans to retreat this turn, we still have 14 units on the map.

Worries
My Ad-Hoc battlegroup available for attack is looking very small...
And more worrying, I've lost sight of the Axis panzer divisions (with a few exceptions).



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terje439 -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/29/2011 9:15:20 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Joel Billings

Did Oloren use the technique of using more than one FBD to repair the same rail line in this game (this was a bug and is no longer possible, but just curious if it was used here)?


No idea, will ask in the next mail :)

Terje




gingerbread -> RE: Disaster in the making. Oloren (axis) vs Terje (USSR) (11/29/2011 9:55:29 PM)

I would recommend at least 2, preferably 3 Sapper regiments per fort level of the hex you intend to attack. Also bring lots of artillery.




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