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AW1Steve -> RE: THE THREAD!!! (6/6/2012 4:52:35 PM)
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There isn't. It's a real police force, with real cops, chartered by a real city, trained and accepted by a real state. The only thing that makes it different is it's paid for by donation , not tax payers. Unless you also have a problem with volunteer fire departments? (Not the tax funded...the old fashined ones totally doantion funded). [:)]
Very different situation, volunteer fire departments. No police powers.
Not as many perhaps. But on rare occassions they may be called upon to exercise similar powers. As in the case of destroying private property for public good. (IE , dynamiting a house to stop a conflagration , or create a backfire). In the USA police and fire departments generally receive their powers from the legislative bodies in the same document. Which also allows health inspectors,code enforcement officers , animal control officers (which the "Animal Cops" truly are) and similar organizations and positions. Many communities can't afford either animal shelters or animal control officers , but have them due to private donations or the SPCA. [:)]
So really as, I've said before, the only real difference is the source of funding. Tax payer versus donation. Are you one of those folks who belive that all good things must come from the government? They DO control these cops, administrate and hire them.
In my small town , it was not unusual for local merchants or private citizens to donate to the local police department. Once a car dealer even paid for a squad car , complete with equipment. Is this improper? [&:]
Not at all. My opinion is that that's the way it should be. We have a local fund drive for a replacment for a local police dog that's retiring. The fund is to find and train his replacement as a tribute for his years of dedicated service to the police force. I like that sort of thinking.
That's totally different, and BTW I like that too. The advocacy group thing associated with police powers is bad, IMO. They are even called (as Steve noted) "SPCA Police" or some such. Call them "Animal Control" or "Animal Cruelty Prevention" or some such, but don't present the specter of a political advocacy group with police powers, that's my point. It would not prevent donations, involvement of any qualified personnel, etc.
I'm guessing that SPCA requires as the price of funding , the name as recognition, to aid in donations. They can say "we funded this". And prevent some low grade hack of a politician from taking the money and claiming he did it. BTW , did I mention that the police cruiser that was donated had a small strip on the rear fender that said "donated by XXX dealership". You are right that some people are uncomfortable with a private name being involved. But in many places in this country many people are concerned that government must do everything that's good for the public. A good charitable organization ensuring that it receives the credit it's do , versus that same organization getting screwed so that some politician can steal the credit? That's a tough one. Maybe I'm just tired of seeing every single highway , road, school and public privy (if you can find one) being used as a monument to a politician, so I'm not all that offended by a NGO recieving credit for what it does. Which btw , included blame if it fails. By the same standard, public buses and transportation should not carry advertising. Good luck on changing that. [:D]
And let's not forget that both fire departments and police departments began as PRIVATE organizations. For that matter , so did libraries. Many public institutions are either private corporations that are contracted for services by municipal , state or federal entities. Or a combination of both. Like hospitals . I'd much rather allow a charitable organization to take credit , than a for profit company. [:)]
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