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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/8/2012 11:30:01 AM)

Jim did one of his B-17 raids on Salamaua and this time nobody got hurt on either side.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/8/2012 11:43:30 AM)

My Carrier Group is the red TF in the middle of the map segment shown below. The white polygons depict where there was an airstrike and overlaying all that is the verbage that describes the mayhiem that occured. Lots of drama going on. Cool.

EDIT: Jim obviously has splintered the group of ships that were used to make one TF. It has now turned into small groups, some one-ship only..

Jim and I don't have a house rule that says single-ship TF's are prohibited, and besides if it was *MY* TF being attacked like in this
case I'm pretty sure that I'd do exactly the same thing. This kind of move on Jim's part shows how realisticlly he desires to play this
game and I'm all for that.

Keep it up Jimbo. Good move. No complaints from me. I feel like I'm doing pretty well, not to brag or anything. I'm just saying it could be a lot worse for me. I don't remember any of the time line of this war from all the military history I've read so I don't know if I'm on schedule or falling behind or ....???? Just playing it by ear and trying to listen to my intuition and do what "feels" right. That combined with a lot of just experience playing wargames over these last 15 years or so (started playing TOAW first of all ). Not that WWI would lend light to an amphibious war. It's like a game where you are the Air Traffic Controller. Deciding where to move the TF's depending on what you can remember about where everything is at this point in time and what condition it's in. Monumental task. That's why you have to just digest everything you can, understanding it or not as the case may be. And let your subconsciious tell you how to "feel" what the right thing is to do. Your subconscious can understand perhaps more than 100+ what you can remember so it makes sense to rely on your subconscious. Unless you can think of a reasonable, demonstratable, reason not to. Based on the ambient evidence available at this point in time. Just do what you think is right. Don't stew about it....it's just a game.

But it's a magnificant game isn't it? I feel like I've been waiting my whole life to play this one game. I'm obviously going crazy for WITP-AE. Great game so far Jim and thanks for the superior moves return. I mean how quickly your moves hit my email after I email you MY moves. Rob did one in less than an hour one time. Come to think of it......I seem to remember Jim getting his moves back that quickly too. I'm doing WITP-AE about 18 hours a day now. It's pretty cool actually. I'm doing a contest with Rob and Jim at the same time and when I'm not working on one I'm usually working on the other, almost all day, everyday. I'm liking it mighty fine. Hey you guys , I hope you get a chance to retire soon so you can experience a WWII in the Pacific continuously all day. It's a trip.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/8/2012 12:39:27 PM)

Another expensive raid on Singers. I'm not sure these daily raids are worth it. I'm thinking I might ought to try some sweeps first before I try bombing again. On the other hand I've been told that a daily bombing can prevent building up forts. And the less forts that are built the more men I will have who will live longer than they might.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/8/2012 12:45:05 PM)

Not even a couple of Zero's from Namlea could prevent Jim's Catalilna's getting a hit. Maybe I need to move an airfield group into Namlea to persuade more than 2 planes to fly. I'll look into that.

EDIT: Yeah, just as I thought.......there's nothing but INF on Namlea right now. I gotta move some AF dudes into there in order to get
better performance of that squadron. It's not their fault it's mine for lack of proper planning. I should have antisippated the need for the AF group and provided a team of them or something. Mea Culpa. I'm just human. Lemme try to fix that before I do anything else.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/8/2012 12:56:00 PM)

Here we have TF 595 loading some AF dudes to move down to Namlea probably arriving at Namlea in a few days. Maybe four.So I won't have high performing Zero's for probably just short of a week. D'oh. Maybe I should look around some more for a different team already embarked or something.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/8/2012 1:24:23 PM)

I moved a Bab's unit closer to Singers and gave it the recon target: Singapore so as to boost the detection level a little bit. I'm guessing the DL has some effect on combat results and the higher the better for the attacker. I don't remember reading that in the manual but it's the sort of thing that could be programmed into this game. Plus it's more realistic.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/8/2012 1:27:28 PM)

Here's the results of another good carrier strike:

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/8/2012 1:35:40 PM)

It's looking like this ground bombardment process is going to take a lot longer than the week or so that I predicted above.
Now I'm gessing that it'll take about a month and that month doesn't start counting until Manila is in Jap hands because
of the flow of supply from there. D'oh. It might be 1943 before I have the PI all in Jap hands.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/8/2012 1:39:21 PM)

There was some good news from Iloilo. 23 of his combat squads were disabled. I need to keep up the heat on this.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/8/2012 1:43:26 PM)

That's an awful large discount of my Assault Value so I'm going to rest the troops a bit and try it again later.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/8/2012 1:47:59 PM)

It's looking like Jim may have succeeded in pulling everybody back to Singers already. Except for a couple of places on the east coast. Well, good for him.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/8/2012 1:51:51 PM)

I have turned off the combat attacking at Ambon because of this result from our DA.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/8/2012 1:55:24 PM)

Kendari fell finally:

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/8/2012 1:58:59 PM)

And the best news so far this turn: Balikpapan fell. Good deal.


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geofflambert -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/8/2012 4:24:06 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson
Jim and I don't have a house rule that says single-ship TF's are prohibited, and besides if it was *MY* TF being attacked like in this
case I'm pretty sure that I'd do exactly the same thing. This kind of move on Jim's part shows how realisticlly he desires to play this
game and I'm all for that.


I'm pretty sure most of the house rules in this regard involve screening carrier groups with single ship AK or AKL TFs. I don't think many have a problem with scattering whether under attack by sea or air.



moore4807 -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/8/2012 7:32:51 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: geofflambert


quote:

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson
Jim and I don't have a house rule that says single-ship TF's are prohibited, and besides if it was *MY* TF being attacked like in this
case I'm pretty sure that I'd do exactly the same thing. This kind of move on Jim's part shows how realisticlly he desires to play this
game and I'm all for that.


I'm pretty sure most of the house rules in this regard involve screening carrier groups with single ship AK or AKL TFs. I don't think many have a problem with scattering whether under attack by sea or air.



Yeah I thought I was being slick - sending a four ship TF ahead of the 8 ship TF, I figured one of two would make it to Pago Pago.
Little did I expect to find his KB sitting in the SWOPAC/CENPAC area - I figured he would be supporting Port Moresby or Australia ops...

K.I.S.S.!!! 50K of supply is cost of lesson learned!



larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/9/2012 12:08:26 AM)

Here's a list of my subs. Almost all of them have some kind of damage or other. Four or five of them are heading for repair yards and the rest are going to eventually have to do the same I figure.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/9/2012 12:34:31 AM)

Jim has turned Cagayan into a fortress. I'm going to have to gather up all the troops I have left over at this point in time in the PI southern islands just to try to reduce this one place. That's going to slow down the invading on the islands of Java and put me severely behind schedule. Maybe I should do a siege here as well as in the more northern places ( Manila ) and just put enough people to hold it for now and do some ship bombardments, sweeps (ugh, please no ), and some ....hummmmmm....... maybe I should just let this place run outta supply and grab it on the cheap a year from now or something. Decisions, decisions......

EDIT: How do you cut off the supply to a port city like Cagayan? And more important, how does one decrease the supply level of an enemy port city? Sispect it has something to do with bombardment via ship and air. Too much enemy air power present to safely do an air bombardment. That leaves bombardment via ship. I'll have to start planning something clever to do this "Operation Cebu Reduction".



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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/9/2012 1:11:12 AM)

Jim has a couple of ships headed NW from north Aus. I'm moving a sub to the area where he's headed just to try to counter his move. I don't remember right off the top of my head where my CA's and CL's are right now, not to mention the CVL, CVE, and CV's that might be available nearby......I don't have everything memorized yet. Plus Rob's game is very very similar to this game so it's hard to keep the two games separated in my head. I'm kinda using data from both of them at the same time in the way I play. I mean that's possible......I'm not doing it consciously of course. I'm saying I'm having to allow for the possibility that that's what's happening: that I'm playing both games at the same time each time I do my moves, either for Jim or Rob. It's possible, probably probable. So I'm going to double check everything and keep my memory dynamic. I'll have to.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/9/2012 1:56:51 AM)

I've got a small group of damaged ships that were based at Wake and I decided to round them up and send them to get fixed at the home islands. I emptied the AO at Wake before they departed and I don't anticipate any problems with them arriving in the HI's. They used to be the surface combat force based at Wake and so now there's not much at Wake to repel an Allied invasion. I hope Jim hasn't got any adventurous plans with his carriers or anything. Hint, hint.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/9/2012 2:03:24 AM)

I snuck into a port near Soerabaja and got the intell that there's about 10 PT boats there at Soerabaja and not much else. Having gotten that piece of information I think I'll try to sneak my sub out of there.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/9/2012 2:11:30 AM)

Some more information about Soerabaja:

EDIT: Plus there's a repair yard there, which is invaluable for the Japs.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/9/2012 2:21:40 AM)

I've got a BB and 3 DD's headed to Wake but it'll be close to a week before they get close to the port there.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/9/2012 2:32:54 AM)

I've located what may or may not be an Allied CVE in or near Brisbane and if it IS a CVE then it's worth pursuing with one or more of my carriers. I'll pull the Shokaku or one of the other CV's off line and make the trip over here to check it out. I'll even run one or more of my nearby subs into the port there to take a look.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/9/2012 2:40:39 AM)

Totally off topic and besides the point of this AAR......I just now went to the web site depicted in the very bottom line of this AAR page and found out that for less than $40 a person can purchase some forum software to run a site like this one. I'd do it but I don't have a static IP address.....you'd need one of those for the DNS name to point to the same place all the time. Century Link is my ISP and they assign me a new IP address every day. I've looked into it with Century Link and for a small fee I can purchase a static IP address ( for like $5 or something each month ) and then be able to set up a forum or a web site of somekind with a forum but then I'd end up acting as the default web admin dude and the forum monitor etc. and that can add up to hours out of the day and I'd rather play WITP.

Just a thought.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/9/2012 2:52:05 AM)

I lack a couple of AK's having enough ships to load up the INF unit and move it to Ambon. Ambon is having a tough time of it and can use some extra hands to go around. I'll look around and see if there's not an AK or two not doing anything important that I can use.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/9/2012 2:57:58 AM)

I've got 2 CV's and 3 CVL's headed for the Singkawang area to help support the Palembang effort. I need to grab Palembang as early as I can before he (Jim ) turns it into a fortress that I can't take. It's probably already too late. Better late than never.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/9/2012 3:20:10 AM)

I've finally gotten the 8th Tank Rgt loaded on ships, I think I'll send them to Ambon to try to break the logjam. The Ambon dudes are outnumbered so this tank regiment might make a difference one way or another.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/9/2012 3:27:21 AM)

I've even got some ships pulling resources and oil out of Hong Kong for the home islands. I gotta be careful and not let Hong Kong run outta that kind of thing though. The light industry there ( 220(0) so far ) will need some of those resources.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Parry vs. Spar Reluctant Admiral 4.2 (7/9/2012 3:37:27 AM)

I'm mostly concentrating on getting my home island resources from Shikuka and oil from Port Arthur. But that's going to change when the refineries at Miri and Brunei and whereever else there are refineries are starting to output some oil. Plus there's a lot at Hong Kong that can be moved yet. I'm hoping Palembang doesn't get roughed up by Jim's Allied air power. Some B-17's or other kind of bomber could wreck the oil refineries there and put me out of business oil-wise.

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