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Michael T -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/1/2012 10:33:24 PM)

Midway through T37 (26 Feb 1942), last blizzard turn. At last some fun to be had. Things are looking up!

Pelton has begun his move to his jump off points for his Snow O. I will lose 6 to 8 Cav units (3 gone already) in my picket line. They did their job. Recon and Cav have revealed a Pz/Mot split north of the Pripet of 6/3. South of the Pripet at least 11/11, a couple of Pz are unaccounted for, probably in the south or still on their way from Germany.

So clearly a southern attack is going to happen. Looking like a thrust to the north east from the Kiev region is on the cards to unhinge my line along the Berezina by advancing towards Gomel and possibly beyond. We are waiting. I have a major decision to make in the North. With his concentration in the south I am confident I can hold my lines in the north. I am very tempted to steal some more territory in the north. But that would mean leaving my trenches and putting my head in a noose if he were to break thru beyond Gomel.

Some eye candy for the Soviet team attached. Some Hitlerites got a little too cocky. Some Rumanians approaching the Crimea were sent packing as well. The joy of it all. I was worried my troops may have forgotten how to shoot after such a long and inactive winter :)

Full maps of the front at the end of next turn.

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gingerbread -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/1/2012 11:18:21 PM)

20 battles in that hex! What happened???



Michael T -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/1/2012 11:33:47 PM)

They suffered the pent up frustrations of the entire VVS IL4 level bomber force, 19 bombing raids :), plus a few in range PE2's Sturmos etc....



randallw -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/2/2012 9:37:58 AM)

What is the soft toggle set to? I see those mobile units in red. [;)]



Michael T -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/2/2012 10:26:56 AM)

Always fuel.



Michael T -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/2/2012 11:12:14 AM)

After a couple of cognacs I decided to stay in my trenches along the Berezina. The game is with Pelton again. His first snow turn is up.



randallw -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/2/2012 8:02:12 PM)

Maybe you'll make an effort to interfere with any of his non-cheating Luftwaffe fuel drops to those armor units?



Michael T -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/4/2012 8:40:25 AM)

End Soviet T38 (5th March 1942) Snow.

At last, after 20 odd turns of boredom some real action at last [:D]

Overall very happy with the first snow turn. Pelton has launched an attack due north from Kiev on the Cherigov/Gomel line. So far a minor penetration. I am confident I can contain it. All Pz/Mot forces locations are known. 6/3 in the north and 13/11 in the south. No subtly with Herr Pelton. He seems to be intent on killing a few Cav div’s in the north, no great loss. I doubt I will build them back. I intend to build an unstoppable blunt instrument, a steam roller. Cavalry does not figure in the plan.

After restraining myself for the past 2 turns I could no longer hold back. I have made an attempt to hold Minsk. Comrade Stalin orders an advance from the Berezina line to Minsk (see green arrows), so be it. A series of a dozen or so Soviet attacks are successful just to the West of D and Z town (see red arrows), around 10,000 fascists are dispatched for the loss of only 5000 comrades.


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76mm -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/4/2012 9:18:14 AM)

hmmm, not sure if an offensive is a good idea, you might get more excitement than you were looking for!



dave_wolf -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/4/2012 9:29:41 AM)

@ MT: Just out of curiosity: Is there a particular reason why you 'white out' some map areas (since your opponent isn't supposed to see those pics anyway)?



Fishbed -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/4/2012 9:32:59 AM)

Btw MT, maybe you should blank the whole backyard. Whiting up just the place where you DO have troops is just going to tell a spy everything he needs to know about where your reserves are [;)]



Michael T -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/4/2012 11:43:28 AM)

There may or may not be reserves under the blobs.

Paranoia is why they exist. Stalin was renowned for it [;)]



Baelfiin -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/4/2012 12:44:02 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Michael T

There may or may not be reserves under the blobs.

Paranoia is why they exist. Stalin was renowned for it [;)]


Taking disinformation to an entirely new level 8) I love it!



dave_wolf -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/4/2012 7:41:04 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Michael T

There may or may not be reserves under the blobs.

Paranoia is why they exist. Stalin was renowned for it [;)]


The well-deserved Joseph reference aside, I do understand. At least concerning strangers. But I'm not sure I for one would like to keep playing against people that I don't believe I can trust.

Just saying.



Klydon -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/4/2012 9:47:42 PM)

Starting an offensive out of the swamp is not exactly one of the best moves I have seen Pelton ever make, but who knows. /shrug.

German operational tank strength seems low for someone who didn't stay engaged for the winter. Wonder what happen there. On the other hand, the Luftwaffe looks to be in excellent shape.



randallw -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/5/2012 5:28:09 AM)

Those early cav corps aren't great, but later on ( 1943 or 1944 ) they get to have about 160 tanks ( mostly medium ), so.....you might want to reconsider.

I am also concerned that you are going on the offensive; why not let him try to punch his way through your prepared locations instead of coming to get him. You have a good sized army but it's not at a quality level enough that you want to be trying to slam into him.



Michael T -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/5/2012 8:55:26 AM)

I am not concerned about what Pelton may or may not do anymore. I could lose 1 million troops and 500 AP and still be in the box seat. My army is huge and they are not ants. The attacks continue. This turn (T39) the Soviets inflicted 30K of axis casualties in assaults (24K German) for the loss of 25K brave comrades. Roll on summer I say. Pelton is going to cop an embarrassing defeat, his idea of retreating to Poland will go down as one of the worst ever. Still now that he can’t retreat anymore it’s a lot of fun trashing his troops. I still predict he will go turtle soon. His attack towards Gomel is going nowhere fast. His great snow O is somewhat of a fizzer, much like his 41 summer [:D]



janh -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/5/2012 9:52:22 AM)

Yes, Pelton is playing very strange when it come to this game. A Red scare seems to have caught him.

I can't see much sense in this axis in the swamps, there are not even any rail lines critical to his advance. Perhaps it was (is) aimed at Tula and Kursk, or maybe he envisioned to link up with his northern Panzer spearhead driving a wedge through Smolensk or so. Well, foggy it is. There is a huge infantry concentration around Riga, so he must be looking at LG as well.

Maybe you're right and can afford the losses, but the 42 Red Army is still a fragile thing, even 7M strong. Look at Terje's luck, he may just have cut a 1M chunk from such an anaconda that stuck its head out too far.



Michael T -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/5/2012 10:12:21 AM)

I just can't see him acheiving anything as long as I stay on my toes. Even when he goes turtle I will be able to spend all my AP on Corps in 1942. I will manage to attack somewhere. He will slowly bleed to death and I will roll in to Berlin in 1944. I am more confident than ever. I am looking forward to summer. My Red airforce is shooting down kraut bombers in droves. In one raid I had over 300 fighters intercept a force of 40 fighters and 40 bombers. He lost 30 odd bombers for not a single soviet a/c.



dave_wolf -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/5/2012 11:32:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Michael T

they are not ants

Have you seen the latest Fringe episode? [:D]



TulliusDetritus -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/5/2012 12:57:38 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Michael T

I just can't see him acheiving anything as long as I stay on my toes.


Something like this, er the cat stance? [8D]

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Klydon -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/5/2012 1:38:23 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Michael T

My Red airforce is shooting down kraut bombers in droves. In one raid I had over 300 fighters intercept a force of 40 fighters and 40 bombers. He lost 30 odd bombers for not a single soviet a/c.


Not a single Russian fighter shot down despite 40 German fighters in the area. That the aircraft model continues to be broken is quite evident. Hopefully they get around to fixing it at some point.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Michael T

Pelton is going to cop an embarrassing defeat, his idea of retreating to Poland will go down as one of the worst ever.



It is your AAR and far be it from me to be the "forum police", but talking trash on someone who can't even see what you are saying and/or defend themselves is pretty low. Keep the personal attack stuff out of it and stick to the topic of the game like you have in a lot of other areas.

Michael, I think everyone would agree that you are one of the best players that post here and so is Pelton. Pelton made the huge mistake of posting a lot of games AND using pretty much the same basic game plan for 1941 in game after game. You scouted him on it and absolutely took advantage of it, causing his 1941 offensive to be a total failure. Nothing wrong with that, but to belittle him over it, etc is not right.

I just wonder if you would have the same confidence in a rematch with Pelton should he want one and him having the experience of playing against you now. You may still win, but you would have to work at it a lot more. (I think the game is pretty much broken in the Russian's favor between really good opponents from what I have seen for the most part at this point in time).

In the mean time, Pelton is trying something totally different and it may not work (honestly, I hope it doesn't because if it is does, it means the game is total screwed up in general), but who knows. I guess we all get to see what happens.



sillyflower -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/5/2012 5:35:28 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Klydon


quote:

ORIGINAL: Michael T

My Red airforce is shooting down kraut bombers in droves. In one raid I had over 300 fighters intercept a force of 40 fighters and 40 bombers. He lost 30 odd bombers for not a single soviet a/c.


Not a single Russian fighter shot down despite 40 German fighters in the area. That the aircraft model continues to be broken is quite evident. Hopefully they get around to fixing it at some point.


quote:

ORIGINAL: Michael T

Pelton is going to cop an embarrassing defeat, his idea of retreating to Poland will go down as one of the worst ever.



It is your AAR and far be it from me to be the "forum police", but talking trash on someone who can't even see what you are saying and/or defend themselves is pretty low. Keep the personal attack stuff out of it and stick to the topic of the game like you have in a lot of other areas.



Klydon: this is not quite fair. Michael criticised the man's strategy, not the man himself. Those are two very different things. Trash talk is the latter, not the former.



Klydon -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/5/2012 6:31:57 PM)

The written word can be a bear at times for intent, especially on a board that has a lot of non-native English speakers. To be fair, I would have said the same thing if Pelton had said something in his AAR on this as well, so I don't have an ax to grind with Michael.

Having said that, what he posted was totally unnecessary, did not add anything to the quality of his ARR and skirts dangerously close to being over the top.



76mm -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/5/2012 6:48:57 PM)

Klydon, from the immortal lines of Stripes, "lighten up Francis"!

Michael is fully justified in voicing his opinion of Pelton's strategy--indeed, isn't that what AARs are for??

I don't think that anyone doubts that Pelton is an excellent player, but his chosen strategy in this game is certainly unorthodox and thus far seems to have been a serious mistake.



governato -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/5/2012 7:08:36 PM)



quote:

ORIGINAL: Klydon




In the mean time, Pelton is trying something totally different and it may not work (honestly, I hope it doesn't because if it is does, it means the game is total screwed up in general), but who knows. I guess we all get to see what happens.




That's what professors do after getting tenure: they can finally test the crazy theories that were too controversial
to try while in their younger years. It's fun (for them, if not for their students)...and sometimes even works. I am not sure what Pelton is up to, but he is trying new things and I am looking forward to find out.



Michael T -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/5/2012 7:36:24 PM)

Klydon don't worry. Pelton and I enjoy throwing little barbs at each other. What we say about each other publically is pretty much all tongue in cheek [:)]




Klydon -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/6/2012 12:04:53 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: 76mm

Klydon, from the immortal lines of Stripes, "lighten up Francis"!



"You just made the list buddy" [:D]




randallw -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/6/2012 2:14:07 AM)

It does look a little weird that the panzer blob attack is north of the neck of the rivers there; I don't even see where the other pincer is?



Michael T -> RE: Razing the Reich (No Pelton) (11/6/2012 3:07:46 AM)

I think Pelton has simply under estimated the strength of my Inf Div's. 90% are all 100% TOE with 50 morale and 50 exp. CV 3 or more. Maybe he expected the usual 40 morale under strength CV 1 type dudes. I don't have any like that.

If his Mech units head in to open ground they are fair game for my reserves. He will need to be stacked 3 high to be safe. And the VVS is quite capable of effective ground support. This army has a bit of bite about it. 2.0 it is not, but not 1.0 either.



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