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morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (3/9/2014 12:59:59 PM)

2nd part

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morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (3/9/2014 1:00:22 PM)

2nd Baltic advances slowly along the Dvina.

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morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (3/9/2014 1:00:41 PM)

Inroads are made into Latvia and Estonia, with Zilupe and Abrene being the first significant towns liberated.

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morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (3/9/2014 1:00:51 PM)

3rd Shock Army commander, Leonid Govorov, was promoted to the rank of General-Polkovnik. The formation of 5 light SU brigades and 15 RR construction brigades was ordered by STAVKA.

Strength:
men: 10 045 034 vs 4 739 588
guns: 157 777 vs 47 434
AFVs: 15 834 vs 7 353
aircraft: 21 449 vs 3 205

Trucks:
in units: 272 964 / 273 254 (99.89%)
in the pool: 149 514 / 140 813 (106.18%)
in repair: 109 455

Losses:
killed: 46 963 vs 31 768
captured: 781 vs 663
disabled: 18 886 vs 15 835
guns: 1 359 vs 1 753
AFVs: 464 vs 145
aircraft: 200 vs 28

Including:
in combat: 112 vs 21
from AA: 46 vs 3
on the ground: 0 vs 0
operational: 42 vs 4



morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/1/2014 12:09:30 PM)

Oh, German Panzer Division, you are no longer the champion of the battlefield...

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gingerbread -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/1/2014 12:57:42 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: morvael

Oh, German Panzer Division, you are no longer the champion of the battlefield...

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If you had posted it on any other day than today, then...

But today? [;)]



morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/1/2014 1:00:14 PM)

Lol, but it's true. I forgot it's April 1st. Just opened my turn after mud ended and normal CVs returned.



gingerbread -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/1/2014 5:39:34 PM)

OK, lucky you. I envy you the full complement of Rifle Squads. My Mech Corps does not get any new ones.

BTW, why is there more fuel than needed? Is that for the attached regiments?



morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/15/2014 8:14:32 PM)

Turn 140 (February 17th, 1944)

Southern fronts advances towards Odessa, expanding the bridgehead near the sea:

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morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/15/2014 8:15:08 PM)

Cherkassy will soon fall into Red Army's hands. German infantry division was saved by panzers, and the Tank Armies forced to retreat:

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morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/15/2014 8:15:33 PM)

Advance into Belarus begins:

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morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/15/2014 8:15:50 PM)

German regiment from 707th Infantry Division routed. The pressure applied in Latvia is immense:

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morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/15/2014 8:16:13 PM)

Northern Estonia evacuated by the enemy, advance may begin soon. In the center the Hungarians put up such fight and the supply situation was so appaling, so that the plan to race to Kiev was cancelled and two Tank Armies were sent north (to help liberate Estonia) and one south (to capture Odessa):

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morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/15/2014 8:16:24 PM)

33rd Army commander, Dmitry Onuprienko, was promoted to the rank of General-Polkovnik. 20th Army commander, Vasily Gordov, improved his political rating (8). The formation of 4 medium SU regiments was ordered by STAVKA.

Strength:
men: 10 106 435 vs 4 694 063
guns: 157 978 vs 46 836
AFVs: 16 006 vs 7 297
aircraft: 21 431 vs 3 305

Trucks:
in units: 259 415 / 271 537 (95.54%)
in the pool: 160 388 / 173 964 (92.20%)
in repair: 113 622

Losses:
killed: 18 922 vs 19 635
captured: 580 vs 724
disabled: 17 399 vs 7 261
guns: 607 vs 870
AFVs: 600 vs 132
aircraft: 135 vs 39

Including:
in combat: 72 vs 27
from AA: 25 vs 8
on the ground: 0 vs 0
operational: 38 vs 4



bigbaba -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/15/2014 10:03:34 PM)

oh my. this endless battles with positive outcome for you do create a lot of guards and moral for you and a huge attrition for him i guess.

what about some mobile corps/armies to expliot breakthroughts in his frontline?



morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/16/2014 3:53:38 AM)

No breakthroughts to exploit, really. He has strong, rested panzers in reserve everywhere so I have to attack deliberately and my advance is slow. I'm only pushing him back, which sometimes creates frontline shapes that are hard to hold and then he withdraws. As could be seen near Cherkassy, he can still win with tank armies if they encircle some of his units.



morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/16/2014 4:07:52 AM)

Turn 141 (February 24th, 1944)

Rodin's 4th Tank Army preparing the raid towards Odessa:

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morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/16/2014 4:08:12 AM)

Kirovograd & Cherkassy captured:

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morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/16/2014 4:08:32 AM)

With supply situation back under control thanks to NKPS troops, Volkhov and 3rd Ukrainian Fronts advance towards Kiev:

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morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/16/2014 4:08:50 AM)

Gomel will soon fall into Red Army's hans. To the north, Dnepr is crossed in even more places:

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morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/16/2014 4:09:11 AM)

Mogilev captured. Konev's North Caucasus Front must wait for the flanks:

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morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/16/2014 4:09:36 AM)

Enemy resistance in Latvia lessens, they are probably preparing to retreat towards Riga and Dvina:

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morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/16/2014 4:09:54 AM)

2nd and 3rd Tank Armies in position, ready to strike towards Parnu next week:

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morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/16/2014 4:10:14 AM)

6th Army commander, Ivan Galanin, was promoted to the rank of General-Polkovnik. 11th Army commander, Rodion Malinovsky, improved his morale rating (8). 9 medium SU regiments were disbanded. There is not enough medium SUs to keep them all in required strength, so the cavalry corps will no longer have one such regiment assigned, only the tank corps will retain theirs. The formation of 5 light SU brigades was ordered.

Strength:
men: 10 146 802 vs 4 669 789
guns: 158 511 vs 46 476
AFVs: 16 074 vs 7 322
aircraft: 21 460 vs 3 063

Trucks:
in units: 266 558 / 276 069 (96.55%)
in the pool: 152 416 / 159 549 (95.53%)
in repair: 117 084

Losses:
killed: 8 992 vs 8 705
captured: 72 vs 632
disabled: -714 vs 1 242
guns: 196 vs 394
AFVs: 168 vs 49
aircraft: 88 vs 22

Including:
in combat: 36 vs 7
from AA: 22 vs 2
on the ground: 0 vs 6
operational: 30 vs 7



loki100 -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/16/2014 6:49:53 AM)

quite a change in tempo in those last updates, even if you have no clean breakthroughs that level of pressure must be hurting the good Cpt?

You have 6??? turns to mud, then he gets a respite, but it looks like you will start the summer of 1944 in a good position

and your trucks are holding up relatively well



morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/16/2014 7:01:33 AM)

We are now at turn 153, turn 141 was the last played in 2013. I delayed the AAR partly on purpose (some operations that must remain secret take long to prepare) and partly because of lack of time. I now hope to quickly report the turns up to mud. I have the materials on hand as I write an AAR about this game for my friends in Polish and it's never more than 1 turn behind real events, so it's only a question of translating some texts and doing smaller screenshots.

The pressure was quite strong, cpt flam reported that his manpower pools were exhausted just as the mud hit, so he was saved for the time being. Unfortunately no breakthrough occured, but at least I was able to make a nice dash towards a major objective on the last snow turn.

Truck situation will soon improve (completely), it was the blizzard that was killing them. Mud and snow are less severe in this aspect, plus I did everything I could to improve it.



gingerbread -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/16/2014 11:32:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: morvael

...Truck situation will soon improve (completely), it was the blizzard that was killing them. Mud and snow are less severe in this aspect,


Hm, since you've seen the code, care to clarify? I have assumed that mud was more severe than blizzard, due to +2 extra MP/hex for motorized per 22.1 compared to blizzard. As often is the case, there seems to be something hidden beyond that.



morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/16/2014 11:56:28 AM)

This also puzzled me, but such were the multipliers in the code that calculates trucks needed to transport supplies to unit (and truck wastage per turn depends on that value). AFAIK it was 4 for Blizzard, 3 for Mud and 2 for Snow (maybe it was 3, 2 and 1.5, I don't remember that exactly now, but the order remains the same). My first idea was to exchange blizzard and mud, but I realized it would create completely different truck pressure for long periods of the game, so I left this as is.



Walloc -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/16/2014 4:40:31 PM)

Doesnt seem off to me. Cold and in particular the severe cold that kills motors, tracks, what ever mechanical. In particular when it isnt build to withstand those conditions. In the mud periode u more so just couldnt move, not saying that wear and tear isnt worse than driving than clear in those conditions, but most would eventually be repairble.

Severe cold aka assuming blizzard are meant to represent those periode, is a thing that in it self with out even driving toke its toll, not so rain.

Rasmus



morvael -> RE: Russia! Why not? (Morvael welcome) (4/16/2014 5:49:08 PM)

Yeah, I also read in one book about logistics that blizzard was harder on trucks than mud. Mainly because during mud nothing moved, so needs were lower. Also because in early winter the rail supply system had even bigger problems than wheeled one and thus it had to work extra hard.



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