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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/27/2012 1:12:53 AM)

And then there's a second alpha strike on the Allied carriers. So all three carriers have received some kind of damage. Maybe they
are damaged so that they can't get away easily now. Cool.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/27/2012 1:16:59 AM)

And then a different group of Oscars decide to sweep Singapore again.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/27/2012 1:20:27 AM)

And then there's this ground attack near Kuantan. The Allied dudes aren't retreating to the south like they are supposed to. I'll have to
chase them down I guess.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/27/2012 1:25:28 AM)

Then there's this Jap bombardment attack at Manila:

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/27/2012 1:30:23 AM)

And then there was this Deliberate Attack at Bear Claw:

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/27/2012 1:33:42 AM)

And then the Allies do a bombardment attack at Port Moresby where I lose some more people. My dudes are out of supply.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/27/2012 1:36:03 AM)

Here's the supply situation at Port Moresby for the Japs.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/27/2012 1:40:13 AM)

Here's the air losses so far:

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/27/2012 1:58:41 AM)

Here's the resource levels at the big three producers showing the difference from 15Feb to 16Feb

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/27/2012 4:46:59 AM)

Oh yeah, what about the Gasmata thing? Well, TF 151 is docked loading supplies as fast as she can go and it looks like the other TF
in the hex has loaded all the ground troops and the AA guns and is headed for Rabaul where I'll deposit these and see if I can't pick up
the larger INF unit than this one embarked. Maybe they can hold their own at Gasmata. Maybe Jim will notice one of these days that
nobody is home at Gasmata and he can have it if he asks nicely. The Mayor's door is always open. But maybe Jim won't notice and
then on the return trip w/ the larger unit I'll just land at the docks and unload rather than have to fight for it across the beach. Ugh

Maybe I should have left the smaller unit where it was and just go get the larger one from Rabaul and just bring it to Gasmata and leave
Rabaul open for a week or so until I could get the smaller unit there. Yeah, that sounds like the better idea....I'm new at this can you
tell?

EDIT: I decided to open the city panel and turn on all the building and repairing and expanding I could in a vain effort to use up some of those supplies that are going to fall in Jim's hand when he captures Gasmata. If he does. He probably will. He's watching that hex
isn't he? I would. I'd like to think I would. Maybe it'll get lost in the forest of detail he's got to keep track of. I sometimes get lost in all
the data I'm trying to keep track of. Have to look things up twice, that sort of thing. The old memory's going I guess. Happens when
you get old. Everything starts shutting down slowly. But I digress.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/27/2012 5:51:59 AM)

I was deciding for TF 3 just now......it's headed for Tokyo and I got curious about Tokyo and how it's doing now-a-days and looked up
some data and did a cut and paste and here it is:

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/27/2012 6:04:06 AM)

Fuel isn't needed from the home islands as much as it used to be so there's no really good place to send a big slug 46K+ tons of fuel
right now. I'm sending it to location Bubble Drop but that destination may change enroute to Cam Rahn Bay or somewhere you never
know where's the right place until you almost there anyway, conditions change, plans change, you gotta go with the flow and be flexible
to ambient conditions. Gotta have the 'big picture' in your head all the time.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/27/2012 6:28:17 AM)

China:
A big mess that I'd rather not think about. I'm thinking that with so little pushing and shoving going on maybe Jim's giving China a cold shoulder too.
I wouldn't mind doing a 'quiet china' scenario if that's possible. Maybe if I don't start any massive movement(s) in China Jim will largely forget about
it too.

South Pacific
I'm more interested in the blue water ops. The interplay of ships, planes, and troops being moved via ship somewhere. I'm guessing that the
period of intense invasions are largely a thing of the past for Japan maybe. I've, for the most part, already captured maybe 90% of what I'm after I
guess. I've been giving some thought to maybe investing some troops in Australia in some small way and see how that goes, maybe capture Darwin
or some other Allied city hard to supply for the Allies but easy for me to take quickly. I'll build some airports on the islands north of Darwin and see
if conditions merit going ahead.

Manila:
I'm half-way convinced that the Phillippines is going to be a major problem for me unless and until I get some more planes actively bombing. I've
tried to shoot up Bataan and got some DMS boats sunk. That's not going to work......so I'll have to see what I can do overland and by air.
Operation Beat Down was schedlued to end sometime in April like in real history, but it's looking like there's going to be some land action going
on in Manila way past April. Maybe not. We'll see.

Port Moresby:
I'm thinking maybe I'll have to give up Port Moresby. Everytime Jim does a bombardment attack I lose 130 people or so. There's only 7500
people left there of mine and they are really low on supply. So I either gotta get them some supplies somehow or maybe put together a
super-convoy and get those people out of there to save their lives. On the other hand, I could leave that unit there and just bring in
another divisions worth of troops. I'll have to see if I can buy out something from Manchuria or somewhere and get them here most ricky
tic. Which is a basterdization of Vietnamese for "a real hurry".

Singapore:
I'm still moving people south. I need to have at least parity before I move into the Singapore hex....I figure that ought to be enough to harry
the defenders a bit. But on the other hand I'm not sure I have enough troops already landed to give me parity with the Allies. I may have
to bring in more troops yet to really get the process moving. I've got a bombing campaign going on to beat down the Singapore defenders
and it's not really up to speed yet but I expect it to get going any day now. I don't figure on doing any Strategic Bombing of Singapore since
I plan on using it after I capture it. I'd like the facilities to be intact thank you very much.

Java:
Um......Java is the newest adventure I've got going. I've landed on the two ends of the island and I've got people moving toward the middle
but it's taking longer than I had planned and we're looking at the end of March at the earliest for that particular campaign to end. Not much
more than a matter of taking the cities and destroying the enemy troops, all happening overland pretty much. I'm planning on building some
air fields and repairing those there already so as to have some bombing help the process. Not very many Dutch fighters have flown here
lately....maybe he's running out of Dutch fighters. I've got a CVE moving into position to surpress either Singapore or Java as the need
arrises.

Christmas Island IO:
I'm planning on giving this back to the Allies at some point. I don't really need it for much, it adds very little and is hard to defend adequately
so I'm thinking I'll just evacuate the troops and keep drawing resources from it as long as I continue to own it. I just took it for the resources.





larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/27/2012 12:14:20 PM)

The TF name field says "8Feb BubbleDrop" and the TF is going to land at Tokyo on the 17th of Feb so it takes 9 days at 12 knots to
go from Bubble Drop to Tokyo. Good to know. That's not the longest journey but more like the average trip.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/27/2012 5:33:46 PM)

It looks like Jim is bringing up the CV he had based in Ceylon ( or somewhere ) to Java. I don't know what he expects to happen with
his carrier but I'm keeping an eye on it and I'm going to go after it somehow in the coming turns.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/27/2012 6:36:38 PM)

Near Guam I found two Tina units that I transfered to Rabaul and now I've got them flying supplies to Port Moresby. Maybe it'll make a
difference to the guys on the ground. Port Moresby is an enemy base so I'm just guessing that those supplies I'm delivering are just
shoved out the transport door or maybe parachuted to the ground, yes? Since it's an enemy base I'm not sure that anything will be
delivered at all. Anybody know?

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ctangus -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/28/2012 10:30:10 PM)

Love all the pics. It's like getting the highlights of the combat replay and doing the turn without watching the whole thing or making all the mouseclicks.

A couple thoughts/questions. Note: this is based on WITP PBEM experience, but not AE.

quote:

Port Moresby:
I'm thinking maybe I'll have to give up Port Moresby. Everytime Jim does a bombardment attack I lose 130 people or so. There's only 7500
people left there of mine and they are really low on supply. So I either gotta get them some supplies somehow or maybe put together a
super-convoy and get those people out of there to save their lives. On the other hand, I could leave that unit there and just bring in
another divisions worth of troops. I'll have to see if I can buy out something from Manchuria or somewhere and get them here most ricky
tic. Which is a basterdization of Vietnamese for "a real hurry".


Is PM an operational AF? If so what does he have based there? Has he been getting any shipping in? Dunno for sure but this early in the game it's likely he's not swimming in supplies either. Maybe a bit better than you if he's conducting bombardment attacks, but probably not huge amounts either.

quote:

Near Guam I found two Tina units that I transfered to Rabaul and now I've got them flying supplies to Port Moresby. Maybe it'll make a
difference to the guys on the ground. Port Moresby is an enemy base so I'm just guessing that those supplies I'm delivering are just
shoved out the transport door or maybe parachuted to the ground, yes? Since it's an enemy base I'm not sure that anything will be
delivered at all. Anybody know?


Haven't run across it in AE yet, but in WITP you could fly supplies in such a circumstance. IIRC not as efficient as flying to your own base (simulating supply canisters falling into the jungle). On the other hand I believe if the enemy has CAP there your transports could be in a world of hurt.




larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/29/2012 2:12:01 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ctangus
Love all the pics. It's like getting the highlights of the combat replay and doing the turn without watching the whole thing or making all the mouseclicks.

Thanks for your kind words. I'm trying to get this thing to read sort of like a comic book. A picture to give the idea and some words to
help explain what's not shown. Or to convey my opinion.

quote:

ORIGINAL: ctangus
Is PM an operational AF? If so what does he have based there? Has he been getting any shipping in? Dunno for sure but this early in the game it's likely he's not swimming in supplies either. Maybe a bit better than you if he's conducting bombardment attacks, but probably not huge amounts either.

Port Moresby may indeed be operational but I'm making daily Betty raids and they haven't run into any CAP yet and I'm thinking Jim
has probably evacuated his planes back to OZ. I'd like to capture PM in it's operational state if possible but I can repair it if not.I'm
doing my moves for Rob's game right now so I don't have the turn loaded and in front of me, so I can't tell you what the mouseover
popup says but I seem to remember doing some bombardment earlier and the airfield may indeed have damage already. Sorry,
I don't remember right off hand. He hasn't been getting any shipping in as I have instituted a sort of blockade on the east coast of
OZ and I'm hunting down and sinking any ships that venture forth so far. I don't anticipate any Allied shipping headed for PM for
quite a while now and at least as long into the future. I don't know for sure what the Allied supply situation is right now, but I agree with
you that it's probably low and each bombardment attack he makes drives supply even lower. He may be running in the red even as
we speak. Either way bombardment attacks will eventually have to stop. Maybe soon.

quote:

Near Guam I found two Tina units that I transfered to Rabaul and now I've got them flying supplies to Port Moresby. Maybe it'll make a difference to the guys on the ground. Port Moresby is an enemy base so I'm just guessing that those supplies I'm delivering are just shoved out the transport door or maybe parachuted to the ground, yes? Since it's an enemy base I'm not sure that anything will be delivered at all. Anybody know?


quote:

ORIGINAL: ctangus
Haven't run across it in AE yet, but in WITP you could fly supplies in such a circumstance. IIRC not as efficient as flying to your own base (simulating supply canisters falling into the jungle). On the other hand I believe if the enemy has CAP there your transports could be in a world of hurt.

It's good to know that supply is indeed flowing to my guys at PM, even if just a little. Jim may pick up that I've got transports flying into
PM and move some CAP to PM in the future but so far there is none. I have some Zero's on Lae set on LRCAP and I'm guessing they
will act to protect my transports somewhat. Long story in a short form: I'm going to try to hang onto PM and see what happens next.
Thanks for your input muchly.




larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/29/2012 2:27:27 AM)

Sapporo is one of the bases I visit to pick up resources and it's always low on fuel. I have to have SOME fuel there to run the HI
industry and every ship that docks there has to refuel ( unless I specifically set the TF to "no refuel" ) so Sapporo is perpetually
low on fuel. I just happen to have a TF at Port Arthur that has a load of fuel and I'm sending it to Sapporo where it will land in about
10 days or so. I'm hoping Sapporo has enough fuel to last that long.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/29/2012 2:33:19 AM)

I've also been going to Kiejo for a lot of my resources. It's a short trip and so far Kiejo has about 75K resources so I'll be going there for
a while yet. Um.....some of the ships in the TF haven't unloaded all the way yet. Rather than sit still for one more day to let them
unload I'll just send them partially loaded w/ the TF and get a head start on the upload at Kiejo. More efficient that way I figure.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/29/2012 2:49:20 AM)

Balikpapan is fully repaired and is supplying a steady stream of fuel and oil and even has about 2K of resources onsite. I've been
moving all that fuel and oil to Bubble Drop for the longer range AK's and TK's to grab on their way back to Tokyo. So supplies and
fuel are moving from Tokyo to Bubble Drop and resources are flowing back to Tokyo on the return trip. That's how it's been working
so far. I may have to make some changes to that routine but so far it's been working.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/29/2012 3:00:14 AM)

Here's the major supply suppliers. Tokyo is the biggest of course, followed by Saigon, then I'm also using Shanghi and Hong Kong.
Shanghi doesn't see that much traffic so far being out of the way and all. Hong Kong is busy but not as busy as Saigon which has
the lion's share of traffic. Most of the supplies are flowing to the big three oil producers: Palembang, Miri, and Balikpapan with some
small share of supply going to Tarakan. The big three are eating supplies trying to get themselves repaired and everything. I expect
in the future that I'll get a lot of oil and fuel from these big three producers.....maybe enough to sustain the war effort.

I'm not so sure where all the resources are going to have to come from. I'll look into that and get back to you.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/29/2012 3:11:28 AM)

Here's some of the places I've been going for resources: I hesitate to empty out Port Arthur's resources since it's good for supply for
China. Shanghi, same story. It looks like I'm going to get my resources from a lot of little sources all over the map. It's going to be a
headache but needs to be done to keep the war going.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/29/2012 4:42:04 AM)

Quite by accident I found the 7th INF Div in a base right next to Sapporo and I'm planning on moving at least one TF there to see if I can't
move the 7th INF Div to Manila or somewhere. I'm on the lookout for new INF units to send south not sparing very many for the defense
of the home lands because I figure Jim isn't going to go for the throat this early in the game and attack the home islands directly. I don't
think he has the boats to do that and shipping might be a problem for him this early, and besides I've got all kinds of planes in the home
islands that would love the chance to shoot at something. They have been on training since the beginning of the war and they are
getting itchy trigger fingers. There's been a rash of killings in the civilian side of the bases for about a month now and we're thinking it's
either gun happy troops home on leave having too much of a good time or it's some of the trigger happy pilots wanting some trigger time.
QC, the military police on that side of the base, are narrowing down the kinds of suspects it might be. Almost caught one but he
dissappeared into the crowd before anybody could get a good look at him or descern what he was wearing. QC is talking about putting
somebody underground and calling in all the markers they have with informants. There's got to be a way to break this case.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/29/2012 4:54:31 AM)

I started to send I-5 toward OZ but I've given it some thought and I'm planning on sending I-5 to Christmas Island just to see if anybody is
there. I expect Jim to move some troops there sometime soon and he may already have done it. I need a whale of an AO or several
little ones to try to send some ships out to Christmas Island waters. Maybe I should try to expand out that direction island by island just
to make him fight for them. Problem with that is there's never enough people to put boots on the ground on those islands. Lemme look
around and see if I can buy out some units from Manchuria or somewhere to man some islands out in the middle of the Pacific
somewhere. Hey, that might be a good long term goal.......to get some bases built up over to and including Christmas Island. I'd have to
build up the airfields as I go for some air cover. Have to expand the ports to support moving supplies and fuel in that direction. But over
all I think it might be doable.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/29/2012 5:16:43 AM)

That sub I had cornered halfway between Shortlands and Tulagi.......he appears to be cornered still. I have no idea what Jim is thinking
at this point for what to do with him but I'm guessing he knows his mission has been compromised and maybe he ought to send it some
other place. Or maybe he'll leave it there to harrass me.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/29/2012 5:30:32 AM)

I've got 4 CV's with escorts set to meet up with a different TF that has a BB in it. I want to transfer the BB to the CV TF both for more
protection for the BB and to get the BB into a more utilitarian role, the one of surface combat. When the TF's are suitably arranged
I'll have one more force to project somewhere. I'm already giving some thought to where I ought to send it. Jim hasn't really exposed
very many capital ships, except for around the Midway area, so I'm thinking maybe this new force I'm building ought to stay in the Tulagi
area just in case. A defensive move. No, that doesn't sound like me, not a really good idea. Maybe I ought to send these guys in the
Christmas Island direction, leaving the Tulagi area uncovered for now. I'm not sure that's a good idea either. Decisions, decisions.

EDIT: I've decided to use them to try to hold onto Port Moresby for now. Some bombardments and air strikes might make a big
difference as to whether or not I can hold onto it. Especially since Jim has more troops headed for Port Moresby even as we speak.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/29/2012 5:39:21 AM)

I've picked up on a TF Jim has that reportedly has a CV in it NW of Java and I just happened to have an AV with some float planes
onboard. I'm going to move the AV northward so as to help illuminate the position of that Allied CV TF so my Betty's and Nell's can
get a good crack at him, maybe sink him after a while.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/29/2012 5:54:32 AM)

Out where my CV's are roaming west of Wake, I just happened to have a PB that's in the wrong place at the wrong time. By that I mean
that it's immediate utility is to draw some air strikes from the Allied CV's to enable my CV's to get the drop on the Allied CV's. I'm using the
PB as bait and it's tough on PB's but it might win the war. At least in the more immediate future. The more air strikes he undergoes
the better so long as the PB isn't sunk and that's probably not going to happen....it's going to get sunk if there's even one air strike. But
that air strike wasn't spent on my CV's and that's what's important.

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larryfulkerson -> RE: Fulkerson vs Moore 16Feb42 (10/29/2012 6:36:47 AM)

I moved a Mavis unit to Koepang and it's got an enormous search arc and so far the unit has only 1 plane so I need to look around to
see if I can't find some more of them. Based at Koepang I can see pretty far into OZ and if I turn this Mavis to do recon instead of naval
search then maybe I can find some of the land based combat units in north OZ. That would be handy to know.

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