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terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/24/2013 11:37:52 AM)
Turn 56 Overall The USSR makes a few attacks in the Moscow sector, but nothing we cannot deal with. We eliminate the pocket we formed, and formed a new small one. In the Stalino area the USSR only kept control of the easternmost city, leaving the two others empty for us to take. 20 USSR attacks resulted in 13 helds and 7 retreats, while our 26 attacks gave a result of 9 helds, 7 retreats, 3 routs and 7 surrenders this turn. We need to make more attacks, but to do that I need to force the river lines. We shall see what next turn brings. Losses USSR : 196.000 troops, 2.899 guns, 106 AFVs, 136 AC. Axis : 37.000 troops, 304 guns, 111 AFVs, 86 AC. USSR units in pockets at start of turn 19. USSR units in pockets at end of turn 4. # of USSR reserve activations 1. USSR units destroyed 15 Rifle Divisons, 3 Guards Rifle Divisions, 1 Guards Tank Brigade and 3 PVO AA Regiments. Partisans 4 of these pesky units appeared, none remain. German Pools Manpower : 78.666 Vehicles : 135.499 Armaments : 379.621 Hiwi : 4 [image]local://upfiles/11504/49668E9A7D594CCF880923A50051EE8F.jpg[/image]

loki100 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/24/2013 12:50:47 PM)
do like your sometimes rather quirky image selection ... maybe they dropped onto the enemy aircraft?

terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/24/2013 2:06:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: loki100 do like your sometimes rather quirky image selection ... maybe they dropped onto the enemy aircraft? Hehe Thank you. If there is nothing peculiar to show from the front I try to find something else/odd to show [:)] Yeah maybe, although in Warthunder (tm) I find that I can take on some early USSR AC with my Stukas [:D] Terje

terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/24/2013 2:53:03 PM)
Turn 57 Overall Same as last turn, the USSR attacks in the centre, while I eliminate the pocket formed last turn and create another small one. The USSR launched 19 attacks and score 7 helds and 12 retreats. This cause 3 of my divisions to be cut off, but we take care of the situation, but it is clear that I will have to reinforce AGC somewhat. We launch 23 attacks and score 4 helds, 16 retreats, 2 routs and 2 surrenders. A few things worth noting; -VP to go = 63 (not too bad the situation taken into account) -We are now seeing Rifle, Tank and Cavalry Corps. That is not good [X(] Losses USSR : 73.000 troops, 1.225 guns, 58 AFVs, 164 AC. Axis : 38.000 troops, 378 guns, 98 AFVs, 58 AC. USSR units in pockets at start of turn 4. USSR units in pockets at end of turn 5. # of USSR reserve activations 1. But this turn the Rumanians also manages one [X(]. USSR units destroyed 3 Rifle Divisons and 1 Guards Rifle Division. Partisans 3 show up, 3 are hunted down. German Pools Manpower : 75.225 Vehicles : 138.491 Armaments : 363.190 Hiwi : 9 [image]local://upfiles/11504/90D631BEE5EB41AAACD4B0F8124A0E2A.jpg[/image]

terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/24/2013 9:02:26 PM)
Turn 58 Overall Pretty much exactly as last turn with the exception that we did not manage to make a pocket this turn. The USSR made 22 attacks scoring 8 helds, 13 retreats and 1 rout(a stack with 3 German Infantry Divisions) [X(]- Our 28 attacks gave us 10 helds (only 2 hasty attacks), 16 retreats, 1 rout and 1 surrender. Losses USSR : 102.000 troops, 1.572 guns, 55 AFVs, 125 AC. Axis : 48.000 troops, 475 guns, 151 AFVs, 148 AC. USSR units in pockets at start of turn 5. USSR units in pockets at end of turn 0. # of USSR reserve activations 3. USSR units destroyed 4 Rifle Divisons and 1 Rifle Corps. Partisans All 4 delt with. German Pools Manpower : 72.247 Vehicles : 140.780 Armaments : 338.328 Hiwi : 19 [image]local://upfiles/11504/035715E7D1E94387800E4300426B57C0.jpg[/image]

terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/25/2013 8:46:51 AM)
Turn 59 Overall This is another of the turns that gives cause for concern. The main reason is twofold. 1: The USSR launched more attacks than us, and 2: our losses are WAY too high. The only good news is that we form a decent pocket this turn, and that no units are cut off, but I am indeed concerned. And although the USSR OOB has dropped the past few months, it is still far too high, so there is definitively concerns at my end. The USSR launched 20 attacks, scoring 8 helds and 12 retreats. We on the other hand only manage 16 attacks for a result of 5 helds, 7 retreats, 3 routs and 1 shatter. Losses USSR : 83.000 troops, 1.032 guns, 87 AFVs, 269 AC. Axis : 65.000 troops, 848 guns, 162 AFVs, 109 AC. USSR units in pockets at start of turn 0. USSR units in pockets at end of turn 14. # of USSR reserve activations 1. USSR units destroyed None. Partisans We took out all 3. German Pools Manpower : 51.765 Vehicles : 143.836 Armaments : 291.050 Hiwi : 7 [image]local://upfiles/11504/50388ECF734E49E9A737227A40EAA157.jpg[/image]

mktours -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/25/2013 6:45:53 PM)
it is my first game, and i made some mistake in the early stage. 6/22/1941 south [image]local://upfiles/44785/06258A6F587A45EFBF7DBB48FD380E3B.jpg[/image]

terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/25/2013 6:49:05 PM)
I do not get the image to show, could you please try again? Terje

mktours -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/25/2013 6:54:48 PM)
i am very sorry for a wrong posting above, i didn't know how to delete that post. the post above was what i wanted to post to my own thread and mistakenly posted to yours.

terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/25/2013 6:56:38 PM)
Turn 60 Overall I must admit that right now I should probably reread the story about the Tortoise and the Rabbit to keep my spirit up, but we'll just keep going like the Duracell Bunny instead [:D]. The USSR keeps attacking in AGC, and we try to attack in the south. Neither side makes a lot of progress, and we do not manage to form a new pocket this turn. 17 USSR attacks resulted in 8 helds and 9 retreats, while our 24 attacks gave us 7 helds, 8 retreats, 4 routs and 5 surrenders. The lack of routs is a problem as that makes it really hard to puncture Seans lines. Losses USSR : 224.000 troops, 3.197 guns, 127 AFVs, 336 AC. Axis : 59.000 troops, 791 guns, 135 AFVs, 102 AC. USSR units in pockets at start of turn 14. USSR units in pockets at end of turn 0. # of USSR reserve activations 4. USSR units destroyed 1 Fortified Region, 1 Rifle Brigade, 12 Rifle Divisions. Partisans We took out all 3. German Pools Manpower : 29.767 Vehicles : 150.021 Armaments : 275.104 Hiwi : 16 Running out of MP quickly now... [image]local://upfiles/11504/EE91D6F8663E42C8B5E7B7DB16F3E66E.jpg[/image]

mktours -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/25/2013 7:01:03 PM)
i have deleted that image when i try to delete my post, but it seems that i could not delete the post. i have mistakenly added to your thread when i wanted to add to my own thread. i am very sorry for it.

mktours -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/25/2013 7:10:39 PM)
good work, i need to learn a lot from you, as i am a freshman here. first day in the forum

terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/25/2013 7:14:58 PM)
Welcome [:)] Ah, no worries, atleast that explains why I could not get the picture to show [;)] And if you want to learn the game, there are FAR better players to learn from than me. I suggest looking at AARs by Pelton and Michael T. Terje

mktours -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/26/2013 2:26:23 PM)
Thanks! I would follow your recommendations.[:)]i want to finish my thread before reading other aars, as i am afraid that after reading, i might lose interest to finish my thread as there might be aars far better than mine. quote: ORIGINAL: terje439 Welcome [:)] Ah, no worries, atleast that explains why I could not get the picture to show [;)] And if you want to learn the game, there are FAR better players to learn from than me. I suggest looking at AARs by�Pelton and Michael T. Terje

juret -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/26/2013 10:36:53 PM)
terja , your last game was good to. specially the 1942 german moves

terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/27/2013 8:15:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juret terja , your last game was good to. specially the 1942 german moves Thank you, but I still claim that there are a lot of players that it is better to learn from. I think the only thing I can accept that I did well in the last game was to decide on a Schweerpunkt and a strategic goal, and then pull it through. Terje

terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/27/2013 10:53:59 AM)
Turn 61 Overall This turn made me realize that I no longer have any choice, I need to send divisions from AGS to AGC to reinforce the Moscow sector. That is far from ideal, but it has to be done to avoid a complete shattering of my front. In the south we once more manage to trap some USSR units this turn, and I will not be too surprised if the USSR falls back here next turn. The USSR launched 9 attacks for 6 helds and 3 retreats, while our 29 attacks only gained 11 helds, 15 retreats and 3 routs. How a USSR brigade that is cut off, and has already been forced to retreat twice holds up against an attack from a division with 5 times the CV is still beyond me... Losses USSR : 74.000 troops, 881 guns, 73 AFVs, 377 AC. Axis : 52.000 troops, 630 guns, 179 AFVs, 103 AC. USSR units in pockets at start of turn 0. USSR units in pockets at end of turn 12. # of USSR reserve activations 1. USSR units destroyed None. Partisans 5 this turn, all delt with. German Pools Manpower : 23.508 Vehicles : 152.252 Armaments : 247.538 Hiwi : 11 [image]local://upfiles/11504/AF99CA16F6734DEA9DD3E9316E54FD53.jpg[/image]

terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/28/2013 8:55:36 AM)
Turn 62 aka Game, Set, Match Overall There are so many sayings I could use for this turn. "It doesn't rain, it pours", "the turn that broke the camel's back", are the two I chose [:)]. Just as happened in reality, the failure of the Rumanians has spelled my doom, and although I have not yet offered my surrender, I will have to do so if I cannot restore the situation next turn. Although this has been a struggle all the way, just look at the number of attacks and the results for this turn. USSR : 32 attacks, for a result of 16 helds, 15 retreats and 1 rout. Axis : 24 attacks, for a result of 11 helds, 9 retreats and 4 routs. Oh, and do I have to tell you that Sean once more forced my panzers to retreat, and hence reopened the pockets formed last turn? Losses USSR : 101.000 troops, 1.389 guns, 172 AFVs, 396 AC. Axis : 80.000 troops, 1.110 guns, 263 AFVs, 174 AC. This too, shows the severity of this turn. USSR units in pockets at start of turn 0. USSR units in pockets at end of turn 0. # of USSR reserve activations 4. USSR units destroyed None. Partisans 4 this turn, all delt with. German Pools Manpower : 7.962 Vehicles : 154.444 Armaments : 215.063 Hiwi : 3 This too shows how close we are to a complete breakdown. [image]local://upfiles/11504/2B6C3DA456FC46E4B625066D0CCEB861.jpg[/image]

Peltonx -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/28/2013 11:10:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: terje439 Turn 59 aka Game, Set, Match Overall There are so many sayings I could use for this turn. "It doesn't rain, it pours", "the turn that broke the camel's back", are the two I chose [:)]. Just as happened in reality, the failure of the Rumanians has spelled my doom, and although I have not yet offered my surrender, I will have to do so if I cannot restore the situation next turn. Although this has been a struggle all the way, just look at the number of attacks and the results for this turn. USSR : 32 attacks, for a result of 16 helds, 15 retreats and 1 rout. Axis : 24 attacks, for a result of 11 helds, 9 retreats and 4 routs. Oh, and do I have to tell you that Sean once more forced my panzers to retreat, and hence reopened the pockets formed last turn? Losses USSR : 101.000 troops, 1.389 guns, 172 AFVs, 396 AC. Axis : 80.000 troops, 1.110 guns, 263 AFVs, 174 AC. This too, shows the severity of this turn. USSR units in pockets at start of turn 0. USSR units in pockets at end of turn 0. # of USSR reserve activations 4. USSR units destroyed None. Partisans 4 this turn, all delt with. German Pools Manpower : 7.962 Vehicles : 154.444 Armaments : 215.063 Hiwi : 3 This too shows how close we are to a complete breakdown. [image]local://upfiles/11504/2B6C3DA456FC46E4B625066D0CCEB861.jpg[/image] I would not consider surrendering as long as you are pocketing troops. 3.7 million OOB for GHC is much higher then normal. The keys are pocketing SHC units and you are this is setting back SHC 2.0 and GHC OOB. Fight on

terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/28/2013 11:44:00 AM)
The problem is that Sean usually breaks my pockets, and although my OOB is good, his is close on 8M. All of that could be managed somehow, however the problems are; -he is able to attack more than me -he is able to bleed me dry with high casualties -with the Rumanians running, I will need to fall back if I cannot stabilize that front -with his high OOB, he is able to launch waves of attacks on my positions, reducing my forts -with no forts I cannot hold a hex unless I have 3 German Divisions in the stack (often that is not enough) So, we shall see how the next turn works out. But unless I can stabilize the situation, I am done for. Sure, I can keep him at bay for MAYBE a year if I go on the defence, but I doubt I can do more than that. Unless I am able to keep pushing through his forts so that I can form pockets, I am dead. [:)] Terje

terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/28/2013 3:02:25 PM)
Turn 63 aka beating a guy while he is down Overall First Sean strikes out in the South as expected, but only expand the bridgehead one hex, then he follows up with a proper attack in the Moscow sector. Then mud strikes, denying me any proper chance of beating the enemy back. Not in good shape right now. Next few turns are crucial I think. The USSR launched 15 attacks and scored 7 helds and 8 retreats, while our 9 attacks gave 4 helds and 5 retreats. Losses USSR : 61.000 troops, 652 guns, 65 AFVs, 181 AC. Axis : 56.000 troops, 594 guns, 150 AFVs, 59 AC. USSR units in pockets at start of turn 0. USSR units in pockets at end of turn 0. # of USSR reserve activations 0. USSR units destroyed None. Partisans 6 show up, we hunt down 5. German Pools Manpower : 3.179 Vehicles : 157.053 Armaments : 202.185 Hiwi : 7 [image]local://upfiles/11504/3A21E4A9C8FE46B0B81B20B27ED52967.jpg[/image]

terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/29/2013 10:37:30 AM)
Turn 64 Overall The mud last turn might have saved us, as Sean only made small advances. Nevertheless, I have had to relocate a total of 3 Pz.Divs from my Pz.Armies to help contain the two threats. This turn we also managed to trap some USSR units again, and I think the pockets will hold. 11 USSR attacks resulted in 5 helds, 5 retreats and 1 rout, while our 23 attacks resulted in 6 helds, 14 retreats and 3 routs. Losses USSR : 87.000 troops, 1.152 guns, 84 AFVs, 213 AC. Axis : 56.000 troops, 710 guns, 74 AFVs, 89 AC. USSR units in pockets at start of turn 0. USSR units in pockets at end of turn 6. # of USSR reserve activations 2. USSR units destroyed None. Partisans All 8 delt with. German Pools Manpower : 840 aka dry, which means I think I need to disband some stuff. Vehicles : 160.327 Armaments : 207.000 Hiwi : 4 Something completely different In this thread, Kaley is losing her vote [X(] Go there and vote Kaley [sm=sign0031.gif] Warspite's prettiest-contest [image]local://upfiles/11504/BF5C57FD8133402497DFCB4C8732FF18.jpg[/image]

loki100 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/29/2013 2:02:27 PM)
Assuming you have derailed that period of Soviet pressure, what are your realistic goals now for 1942?

terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/29/2013 2:18:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: loki100 Assuming you have derailed that period of Soviet pressure, what are your realistic goals now for 1942? Not understanding the r-word of yours [:D], I'ld say push through the USSR line in the south, and reform a secure line. Terje

Tophat1815 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/29/2013 3:36:48 PM)
Keep fighting! Whats this talk of throwing in the towel? Hell,you had the stuffing smacked out of you far worse and kept up the show. I kinda hope he feels as unstoppable as you said,he'll over extend and another terje comeback is born.

terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/29/2013 3:54:55 PM)
Haha wish I was as confident, but we shall see what happens. His CV is a huge concern though Terje

terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/29/2013 3:55:14 PM)
Oh, and I see no new votes for Kaley! [:-] [;)]

terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/29/2013 8:09:33 PM)
Turn 65 Overall Ok, NOW I am scared. Sean withdraws all his advanced units. What is he up to now? The 3 Pz.Divs are all heading back. Apart from that, we make progress that makes snails laugh as they pass us by, but we do form a new pocket. That however is needed as the USSR reopened one of the pockets formed last turn... 12 USSR attacks resulted in 3 helds and 9 retreats., Our 22 attacks gave 8 helds (I am developing an allergy to reserve activations...), 11 retreats, 2 routs and 1 surrender. Only other big thing is that another army was placed in static mode this turn, as they are now dug in deep enough. Losses USSR : 112.000 troops, 1.475 guns, 258 AFVs, 440 AC. Axis : 55.000 troops, 695 guns, 154 AFVs, 96 AC. USSR units in pockets at start of turn 3. USSR units in pockets at end of turn 9. # of USSR reserve activations 7. USSR units destroyed 1 Rifle Division, 2 Guards Rifle Divisions. Partisans We hunted down 11 out of the 12 that showed up. German Pools Manpower : 1.044 Vehicles : 161.542 Armaments : 185.143 Hiwi : 1 [image]local://upfiles/11504/37ADBD38DAE0422BB7A60FD15ED717F6.jpg[/image]

randallw -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/30/2013 9:20:09 AM)
You can try a massive withdraw all across the front, then counterattack once your opponent suffers supply difficulties. If it fails, just think of it as your strategy to help shorten the war! [:D]

terje439 -> RE: Laugh n a 1/2 - No Manstein63 (5/30/2013 10:47:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: randallw You can try a massive withdraw all across the front, then counterattack once your opponent suffers supply difficulties. If it fails, just think of it as your strategy to help shorten the war! [:D] Hehe yeah that is one option, but not the one I will follow unfortunately [;)] Terje

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