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chemkid -> RE: New map for WITE (5/25/2013 10:09:59 AM)

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janh -> RE: New map for WITE (5/25/2013 12:34:05 PM)

Just saw this in Kamil's AAR! Very nicely done! Just wow! Must be a hundred hours of work, Jison?



htuna -> RE: New map for WITE (5/25/2013 7:04:05 PM)

Excellent work!!.. One thing, and I don't know if it's related or not, but the objective flags don't seem to work for me anymore.. I like the map more than the flags, so will have to stick with the modded version!



htuna -> RE: New map for WITE (5/25/2013 7:29:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cmurphy625

Excellent work!!.. One thing, and I don't know if it's related or not, but the objective flags don't seem to work for me anymore.. I like the map more than the flags, so will have to stick with the modded version!


Very strange, I had copied my old 'dat' directory back to confirm that the objectives worked, and they did.. But then I copied the new modded maps back and they 'still work'.. so all fixed!.. Wierd.. Ignore my posts [;)]



TAIL_GUNNER -> RE: New map for WITE (5/26/2013 1:02:04 AM)

Beautiful work - thank you.



Jison -> RE: New map for WITE (5/29/2013 1:35:18 PM)

Unit Counters for this map - link in my signature.

[:)]


Jison



chemkid -> RE: New map for WITE (5/29/2013 2:40:10 PM)

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Flaviusx -> RE: New map for WITE (5/29/2013 3:31:06 PM)

Thanks for pushing out those counters, I took the plunge and must say: outstanding work. The vanilla map is very good and I never thought I'd replace it, but your map possibly improves on it.

Your counters are clearly better, imo. My only minor quibble: the shade of red used for guards is perhaps a bit light. Yet maybe this is unavoidable, a fire engine red a la vanilla would clash badly with the map.

Question: what do the hash marks on the left side of the counters stand for? There are up to 4 of these for some units.

Anyways, hire this man, Matrix. This is first class professional artwork. That I'm getting this for free feels like highway robbery, it's head and shoulder above the usual mod.



[image]local://upfiles/32811/C28E96AA1FF0413999C78A08E916C0B8.jpg[/image]



Jison -> RE: New map for WITE (5/29/2013 6:24:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Flaviusx

Question: what do the hash marks on the left side of the counters stand for? There are up to 4 of these for some units.



Thats the 'soft factor' - you know, the gauge for experience, supplies, fuel or morale etc depending on your setting. It goes from zero to four - four is best/highest.

The small circle on the right are the movement status - white circle indicates full movement, black circle indicates some movement and no circle indicates no movement.

Jison



Lictuel -> RE: New map for WITE (5/29/2013 7:41:30 PM)

Very nice work, now I can see soft factors and fortification levels at the same time.



Jison -> RE: New map for WITE (5/29/2013 10:24:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Jison


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ORIGINAL: Flaviusx

Question: what do the hash marks on the left side of the counters stand for? There are up to 4 of these for some units.



Thats the 'soft factor' - you know, the gauge for experience, supplies, fuel or morale etc depending on your setting. It goes from zero to four - four is best/highest.

The small circle on the right are the movement status - white circle indicates full movement, black circle indicates some movement and no circle indicates no movement.

Jison


Whoops - do I feel stupid now! Here I go trying to explain what the 'soft factor' is to a WitE Alpha Tester! Didn't noticed your signature until now... [:D]

Jison



jlward2009 -> RE: New map for WITE (5/30/2013 8:52:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Oberst_Klink


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ORIGINAL: Jison

Hello everyone

Can I tempt you with a new and completely scratch-made map for Wite?

Edit: It seems I'm not allowed to post links - so just use the one in my signature below if you are interested.


Jison

Bloody awesome mate! I also use your PzC mods and they're brilliant, too!

Klink, Oberst


Your map and counters are excellent! I have downloaded and installed both mods and they look great!

Thanks for all of the time and effort you put into this project!



Maximeba -> RE: New map for WITE (5/31/2013 5:02:14 AM)

Very very nice. I down loaded the maps. Now can you help a mooncalf, and explain how to install them. Also, can I play against someone who is not using your maps.



laska2k8 -> RE: New map for WITE (5/31/2013 8:20:29 AM)

I downloaded and installed this wonderful mod, just a note, in the scenario "operation Uranus" there's a little bit of confusion between rumanian and soviet units.



[image]local://upfiles/18806/3E7BC243CE354A31ABC246E64EBDCC7B.jpg[/image]



Lowlaner2012 -> RE: New map for WITE (5/31/2013 8:58:33 AM)

WOW awesome mod, really brings Russia to life for me, thanks :)



Jison -> RE: New map for WITE (5/31/2013 4:25:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Maximeba

Very very nice. I down loaded the maps. Now can you help a mooncalf, and explain how to install them. Also, can I play against someone who is not using your maps.


You just doubleclick on the downloaded file, select 'Extract To' ( or whatever it is called in your compression program ) and choose the WITE folder. Select 'Yes' when asked if you want to replace existing files, and you are done.

Your opponent does NOT need to have the mod installed on his end.

Jison



Jison -> RE: New map for WITE (5/31/2013 4:29:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: laska2k4

I downloaded and installed this wonderful mod, just a note, in the scenario "operation Uranus" there's a little bit of confusion between rumanian and soviet units.



[image]local://upfiles/18806/3E7BC243CE354A31ABC246E64EBDCC7B.jpg[/image]


What can I say, I like my romanian counters in a yummy chocolate brown! [;)] Seriously though, it is intentional and applies to all scenarios, not just operation uranus. Image below is from the start of the main campaign.

[IMG]http://www.hist-sdc.com/MapMod/wite-romanians.png[/IMG]

I'm aware of the fact that they are fairly close to their russian counterparts, but the romanians are not only darker - the two also have differently colored numbers on them which ought to help keep them apart. Sorry if my choise of colors causes confusion for some, but it is made this way because I just dont want bright blue romanians as a part of this mod.

Anyway, I am glad you guys seem to enjoy the mod - it really makes it worth the effort. Thanks! [:)]

Jison



morvael -> RE: New map for WITE (5/31/2013 5:00:27 PM)

Though I love the map and use it, I think I will stay with the original counters. I need more contrast between colors to ease the work my eyes have to do, especially regular Soviet and Guards. Maybe I will try to alter those images you provide by changing R/G/B channels to get more differences between colors.



Flaviusx -> RE: New map for WITE (5/31/2013 6:44:48 PM)

I dunno all Axis numerical values are in black, Soviets are in white, I don't have a problem with this.

The original blue Romanians look suspiciously like Luftwaffe auxiliaries for my taste.

I wouldn't mind seeing a slightly darker shade of red for guards, though. Not full fire engine red (which is a bit too Christmas up against the green map.)



morvael -> RE: New map for WITE (5/31/2013 7:05:54 PM)

Why is "Counter10x10.tga" file not overwritten by the mod? Is it unused?



IronDuke_slith -> RE: New map for WITE (5/31/2013 10:52:01 PM)



Stunning mod, simply stunning. I've never modded the game before (never felt the need to) but downloaded and installed this without hesitation. the counters will take a little getting used to, but the extra biographical information regarding movement and soft factors together with the way the towns are drawn to visually display their population rating really enhances the game. The towns and cities you've drawn really give the map a different feel.

FlaviusX is right about the colours. Once you start looking for the color of the numbers when glancing around it becomes easier and although I too would prefer slightly stronger colours for Guards and Waffen SS, this is a first class job.

You've gotten the names of the towns on without cluttering the map, and really brought the differences between the north and more open south of the country to life. Your mountains, heavy woods, marshes are easier on the eye and your water is a gorgeous blue (never thought I'd say that in a wargaming forum). Like the train lines as well which look more rustic and authentic.

You're a very talented man. My thanks for your efforts.



Maximeba -> RE: New map for WITE (5/31/2013 11:09:06 PM)

Jison,

Thanks for the help. I installed the map and it is beautiful. I always enjoyed the game now you just made a great game better. Thanks.



IronDuke_slith -> RE: New map for WITE (5/31/2013 11:34:44 PM)


If you're continuing on with this project, one thing I would suggest is new weather tiles. the mud and heavy snow can be a little overpowering on the map, mud, blizzard and snow effects which fit the beautiful map you've created would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
ID



M60A3TTS -> RE: New map for WITE (6/2/2013 3:17:09 AM)

I tried the counters mod, but a number of the function keys don't seem to work with it, like F11 and RR display.



Jison -> RE: New map for WITE (6/2/2013 9:58:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

I tried the counters mod, but a number of the function keys don't seem to work with it, like F11 and RR display.


Well, all I can say really is that all functions works perfectly with the mod... and if not, then something have gone wrong during the installation.
You didnt move any folder or files before the installment? Sometimes when doing a backup it is easy to actually MOVE a file or folder by mistake instead of COPY it. That would lead to missing artwork as you describe.

Jison



IronDuke_slith -> RE: New map for WITE (6/2/2013 1:45:14 PM)


Deleted as just figured it out.
..[&:]



Jison -> RE: New map for WITE (6/2/2013 2:18:26 PM)

Weather effects was mentioned earlier. Here are some I'm playing around with...

First that notorious rasputitsa:
[img]http://www.hist-sdc.com/MapMod/wite-mud.png[/img]

Then comes the snow...
[img]http://www.hist-sdc.com/MapMod/wite-snow.png[/img]

And for blizzard I just added some additional snow flakes, but perhaps it needs even more...
[img]http://www.hist-sdc.com/MapMod/wite-blizzard.png[/img]

Jison



M60A3TTS -> RE: New map for WITE (6/2/2013 5:22:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Jison


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ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

I tried the counters mod, but a number of the function keys don't seem to work with it, like F11 and RR display.


Well, all I can say really is that all functions works perfectly with the mod... and if not, then something have gone wrong during the installation.
You didnt move any folder or files before the installment? Sometimes when doing a backup it is easy to actually MOVE a file or folder by mistake instead of COPY it. That would lead to missing artwork as you describe.

Jison


Very true. Tried again and works now. As to the weather graphics, I like the snow/blizzard. Mud, eh... seems a little too subtle.



morvael -> RE: New map for WITE (6/2/2013 5:27:31 PM)

Guys, maybe I'm a little blind (though I wear no glasses), but how do you find those white non-bold numbers on Soviet units? They tire my eyes very quickly compared to original bold, black and a pixel or two higher original numbers...



IronDuke_slith -> RE: New map for WITE (6/2/2013 6:10:11 PM)


I like the new weather effects. I don't think you can make them too bold because they will obscure the place names you've added. I want to be able to see the difference when the weather turns but not at the price of having to squint hard to make out what the underlying terrain is.

What's the release date...?...[;)]

Once again, thanks very much for your efforts with this.

Regards,
ID



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