RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please

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Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/13/2014 5:24:04 PM)
September 15th 1942 Air Losses: 11 Japanese, 8 Allied, 3 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Pacific An Allied cruiser force pursues to very close to Rabaul and engages an ASW task force. DD Hamakaze is lost. quote: Day Time Surface Combat, near Feni Islands at 107,127, Range 26,000 Yards Japanese Ships DD Yukikaze, Shell hits 1 DD Hamakaze, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage Allied Ships CA Astoria, Shell hits 1 CA Vincennes, Shell hits 1 DD Benham DD Ellet, Shell hits 2 DD Stack, Shell hits 2, on fire DD Sterett, Shell hits 2 This enemy force then seems to have vanished but a different one is subject to repeated air attack: quote: Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Woodlark Island at 106,130 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 16 minutes Japanese aircraft D3A1 Val x 12 No Japanese losses Allied Ships CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage CA Minneapolis, Bomb hits 2, on fire Aircraft Attacking: 5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Woodlark Island at 106,130 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 15 minutes Japanese aircraft D3A1 Val x 12 Japanese aircraft losses D3A1 Val: 2 damaged Allied Ships CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage CA Minneapolis, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CA Minneapolis -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Woodlark Island at 106,130 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 20 minutes Japanese aircraft B5N2 Kate x 7 D3A1 Val x 8 Japanese aircraft losses B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged Allied Ships CA Minneapolis, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Lang, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 7 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb 4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CA New Orleans -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Woodlark Island at 106,130 Weather in hex: Partial cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 30 minutes Japanese aircraft A6M2 Zero x 10 D3A1 Val x 30 Japanese aircraft losses D3A1 Val: 1 damaged Allied Ships DD Wilson CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage DD Lang, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage CA Minneapolis, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage Aircraft Attacking: 15 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb 12 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Lang Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CA Minneapolis 4 Seagull show up as ground losses on the day so I assume one of the CA has been sunk. This matches the VP tally. The SS Gar hits a mine at Buka. Various Allied and Japanese SS are subject to air attacks with claimed hits. CVL Zuiho is one hex from Rabaul and now has 62/71/22/11 damage. CV Zuikaku also has one hex to go and is at 52/48/40 damage Burma Allied cruiser forces bombard Akyab. Light damage to troops but some damage to base facilities and supplies lost. China Another good attack near Chungking quote: Japanese ground losses: 1489 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 112 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 24 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled Guns lost 22 (5 destroyed, 17 disabled) Allied ground losses: 11799 casualties reported Squads: 497 destroyed, 52 disabled Non Combat: 540 destroyed, 24 disabled Engineers: 12 destroyed, 5 disabled Guns lost 18 (13 destroyed, 5 disabled) Units retreated 4 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 116th Division 13th Division 104th Division 3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion 28th Mountain Gun Regiment 7th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 11th Field Artillery Regiment 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 10th Mortar Battalion Defending units: 4th Chinese Corps 72nd Chinese Corps 26th Chinese Corps 74th Chinese Corps Air strikes continue to do damage. Engineering Quiet R&D Quiet

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/14/2014 8:00:55 AM)
September 16th 1942 Air Losses: 5 Japanese, 10 Allied, 2 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Pacific Tried something novel. MrKane had lots of interesting task forces just south of Tulagi so I-121 slipped in and dropped 40 mines in the hex. Result! quote: DD Perkins, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage However, one better quote: TF 183 encounters mine field at 115,138 Allied Ships DD Case DD Drayton DD Mahan CV Wasp, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage 6 mines cleared Wasp was previously damaged, some carrier planes are shown as lost on the ground, jump of 300 unexplained VP for the day all confirm that the CV Wasp has been sunk[8D]. All mines are cleared in the one day but who cares[:)] Meanwhile, SS I-172 succumbs having been badly damaged by air attack[:(]. Zuiho has its fires out, 65/71/26 damage. Burma Recce shows Allied BB at Calcutta. China More good progress and heavy damage inflicted. Engineering Quiet R&D D4Y4 to 11/44 B6N2 to 7/43

Lowpe -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/14/2014 12:07:11 PM)
Good day. My experience with mine hits is that they always list ships as sunk, incorrectly...but perhaps you have enough confirming evidence. Did you hear sinking sounds? Fires out on Zuiho?

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/14/2014 12:16:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe Good day. My experience with mine hits is that they always list ships as sunk, incorrectly...but perhaps you have enough confirming evidence. Did you hear sinking sounds? Fires out on Zuiho? At least two sinking sounds during the turn but those could be related to the fact that he has various CA and DD damaged. The most decisive evidence is that the day loss shows 4 F4F-4 and 3 TBF-1 as lost on the ground. As I haven't done anything else to cause that I can only see it as being the residue of planes left on a carrier after it was rendered unable to operate and then sunk. Yes, fires out on Zuiho and only a few more system and engine damage sustained.

Lowpe -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/14/2014 12:26:56 PM)
If you manage to save your two threatened carriers, which I think you will now that the fires are out and submarines are the biggest peril, I think you have pulled off a win here. The Americans lost a lot of carrier planes...gotta slow him down. Gee, I am glad you spent four hours on your turn...not much you can do eh? [:D]

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/14/2014 1:02:58 PM)
September 17th 1942 Air Losses: 4 Japanese, 2 Allied, 1 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Pacific Quiet. Allied CVs are spotted South of Tulagi. Lots of attacks on both sides subs. Nothing conclusive. Burma Quiet China Some damaging attacks but an attack on the road to Tsuying is not good: quote: Ground combat at 68,47 (near Kunming) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 29545 troops, 370 guns, 166 vehicles, Assault Value = 879 Defending force 16601 troops, 127 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 358 Japanese adjusted assault: 261 Allied adjusted defense: 580 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 1515 casualties reported Squads: 14 destroyed, 140 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 13 disabled Engineers: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled Guns lost 22 (2 destroyed, 20 disabled) Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled) Allied ground losses: 138 casualties reported Squads: 3 destroyed, 11 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled Assaulting units: 27th Division 24th Division 20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 12th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion Defending units: 1st Chinese Corps 66th Chinese Corps I'm not going to budge this without extensive air attack first and it is close enough to Allied bases that there is a risk of running into CAP so I can't do that without having more fighters here. At the moment I don't really have fighters to spare with the need for them at Rabaul, Darwin and Magwe in particular. May see if I can work around it to take Tsuyung directly but it is at least a months walk through the mountains or nearly two months to carry tanks and artillery over the mountains. Engineering Yenan expands airfield to 3 (I have had 1 engineer squad here and forgot abput it!) R&D Quiet

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/14/2014 1:15:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe If you manage to save your two threatened carriers, which I think you will now that the fires are out and submarines are the biggest peril, I think you have pulled off a win here. The Americans lost a lot of carrier planes...gotta slow him down. Gee, I am glad you spent four hours on your turn...not much you can do eh? [:D] I'ld count it as a draw or marginal win to me. Although the loss of a CV and a CS is bad the worse loss is of trained pilots. Particularly, as I haven't had much success getting a training program together for the IJN. I think a lot of his carriers have upgrades in October so it wouldn't surprise me if he moved them all back to do that and his next op was launched in November. The biggest concern I have now is that he will use a 4E strike at Rabaul port. Moonlight is currently 57% so he could try a night strike in a few days time. Zuikaku fixed 5 float last turn so will probably be able to move it before the full moon (52/39/40). Zuiho fixed 2 float last turn so it may have to stay for the moon (65/69/26). These last few turns have all been taking longer than I can afford, with both China and the South Pacific needing adjustments each day.

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/15/2014 8:12:31 AM)
September 18th 1942 Air Losses: 5 Japanese, 2 Allied, 1 Pilots(but one MIA is recovered) Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Pacific Quiet. A couple of sub attacks against task forces containing CA near Ndeni for no result. Allied subs seem mostly have moved towards Truk, lots of ASW assets there but no success at attacking them (a few claimed hits from the air). Burma Quiet China Quiet. A few victories against small Chinese LCU; the 2nd Group Army has been destroyed and will be reformed. Engineering Ramree Island to 2, Pingsiang to 2, Batavia to 6. Port Blair forts to 4. Allies have built a port at Lunga and expanded Townsville port to 6. R&D Quiet. Economy Supply has been increasing rapidly and I now have 1.2 million in Japan. Still have over a million tons of liquids waiting to be shipped to Japan.

setloz -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/15/2014 9:02:21 AM)
quote: Spidery I'ld count it as a draw or marginal win to me. Although the loss of a CV and a CS is bad the worse loss is of trained pilots. Particularly, as I haven't had much success getting a training program together for the IJN. I think a lot of his carriers have upgrades in October so it wouldn't surprise me if he moved them all back to do that and his next op was launched in November. The biggest concern I have now is that he will use a 4E strike at Rabaul port. Moonlight is currently 57% so he could try a night strike in a few days time. Zuikaku fixed 5 float last turn so will probably be able to move it before the full moon (52/39/40). Zuiho fixed 2 float last turn so it may have to stay for the moon (65/69/26). Wonderful idea with the mines south of Tulagi! Planes lost on the ground most certainly mean sunk CV. [:D] The problem with massed 4E night strikes at Rabaul is that no matter how many nightfighters you have on duty, some of them will strike home. And a damaged CV is a big target... However, I think the biggest danger to moving your CVs will be his subs. Any chance you can clear out a path to Truk with low level search planes (night and day) and lots of ASW TFs?

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/15/2014 10:35:32 AM)
quote: The problem with massed 4E night strikes at Rabaul is that no matter how many nightfighters you have on duty, some of them will strike home. And a damaged CV is a big target... Until he gets Lunga or Tulagi up to level 2 airfield he can't launch a mass strike as he is limited to flying B-17D at extended range or liberators. The later models don't have the reach. As such between CAP, flak, balloons and the aircraft that stray at night during a long range attack I think it is iffy how effective a night strike will be. However, he will have Lunga or Tulagi expanded by the time of the full moon. Between Rabaul and Truk I would estimate he has about 40 subs operating. I have about 20 DD or SC trying to get some of those and air at Kavieng and Truk. I hope that if I can keep the pressure up he will start taking losses and reduce the number of subs. I have no feeling for the likelihood that coastwatchers will report the location of my CV.

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/15/2014 10:38:12 AM)
quote: Wonderful idea with the mines south of Tulagi! During the action off Noumea I had a chance to use mines but didn't have any to hand. Now my policy is that every time I-121, 122, 123, or 124 start a patrol I set them into a mine-laying task force and load up, just in case I get an opportunity to use them.

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/15/2014 5:37:42 PM)
September 19th 1942 Air Losses: 2 Japanese, 3 Allied, 0 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Pacific A couple of ineffective ASW attacks, otherwise quiet. Burma Quiet China A good result outside Chungking[:)] quote: Japanese ground losses: 1268 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 102 disabled Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 19 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled Guns lost 13 (3 destroyed, 10 disabled) Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled) Allied ground losses: 8648 casualties reported Squads: 317 destroyed, 26 disabled Non Combat: 499 destroyed, 0 disabled Engineers: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled Guns lost 14 (8 destroyed, 6 disabled) Units retreated 6 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 116th Division 13th Division 104th Division 21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion 3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 11th Army 28th Mountain Gun Regiment 7th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 11th Field Artillery Regiment 3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment 10th Mortar Battalion Defending units: 72nd Chinese Corps 4th Chinese Corps 26th Chinese Corps 74th Chinese Corps 15th Group Army 30th Group Army That is another Chinese Corps trashed, I have lost count of the number. Also drove back some of the forces near Kunming. He has a last line of defense along the river between Chungking and Kienko. Rather than forcing the river line I will use the opportunity of his forces being hit in the open to weaken his troops while gathering my divisions together for a push. Engineering Kweiyang to 6, needed the extra basing given the number of 2E planes in use. R&D Mitsubishi Ha-43 now 11/44 Ki-44-IIc now 2/43 [image]local://upfiles/43194/A416FF6ACE8F4293B84836C5106C6BF0.jpg[/image]

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/16/2014 7:32:10 AM)
September 20th 1942 Air Losses: 6 Japanese, 4 Allied, 1 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Pacific When I saw the Allied CV in the Solomons I sent raider forces into the Southern Indian Ocean and East Pacific. These were withdrawing as the Allied CVs could be moving anywhere. In the East Pacific I find a convoy of xAK carrying fuel to Pearl Harbour[:)]. Unfortunately, they escape[:(] after I get a few licks in. quote: Japanese Ships CA Chikuma CA Myoko CA Haguro CA Ashigara CA Furutaka, Shell hits 1 CA Kako, Shell hits 2 DD Akigumo DD Isokaze DD Usugumo DD Uranami DD Yayoi Allied Ships AM Bobolink, Shell hits 1 AM Penguin, Shell hits 2, and is sunk AM Turkey, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage AM Rail, Shell hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage AM Tern AM Grebe, Shell hits 3 AM Vireo, Shell hits 3, on fire AK Alchiba, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage AK Procyon, Shell hits 12, and is sunk AK Castor, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk xAK British Columbia, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk xAK Montgomery City xAK Ewa xAK Mahimahi xAK Makena xAK Mana xAK Manulani xAK Admiral Halstead xAK Crown City, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk xAK Unicoi, Shell hits 3, heavy fires xAK Capillo, Shell hits 1, heavy fires xAK Coast Trader xAK Idaho, Shell hits 3, heavy fires xAK Meigs xAK Starr King, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk All the damaged freighters will probably sink since they had fuel cargo that ignited. Fuel status for the task force is critical so no chance to stay around for another day. However, there are half-a-dozen subs heading in. Otherwise quiet, not very many Allied subs spotted now. Burma Quiet China I forgot to cancel orders to cross the river South of Kienko. However, it worked out fine as the enemy turned out to be phantom troops[;)]: quote: Ground combat at 78,42 (near Kienko) Japanese Shock attack Attacking force 28562 troops, 246 guns, 177 vehicles, Assault Value = 905 Defending force 46163 troops, 95 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 563 Japanese adjusted assault: 545 Allied adjusted defense: 100 Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: op mode(-), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: shock(+) Japanese ground losses: 615 casualties reported Squads: 2 destroyed, 73 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled Vehicles lost 14 (1 destroyed, 13 disabled) Allied ground losses: 19341 casualties reported Squads: 324 destroyed, 293 disabled Non Combat: 327 destroyed, 218 disabled Engineers: 20 destroyed, 17 disabled Guns lost 19 (12 destroyed, 7 disabled) Units retreated 15 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 32nd Division 8th Tank Regiment 1st Division 26th Fld AA Machinecannon Company 4th Army 55th Field AA Battalion 11th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion Defending units: 19th Chinese Corps 2nd Chinese Corps 34th Separate Brigade 67th Chinese Corps 48th Chinese Corps 4th Construction Regiment 22nd Group Army 15th Chinese Corps 31st Group Army Red Chinese Army 39th Group Army 1st Artillery Regiment 8th Chinese Base Force 36th Group Army 6th Chinese Base Force 15th Chinese Base Force Annoyingly, one Chinese unit failed to retreat so I don't control the hex[:(]. Chinese retreated North to Kienko where they can starve[:)]. My troops will need a few days to recover from disruption and he could reinforce with good troops in that time. Nice to see an artillery regiment that has not made it to Chungking. Engineering Allies expand Katherine to level 7. Ndeni port to 2. Reinforcements An 8150 capacity tanker arrives.

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/16/2014 1:08:03 PM)
September 21st 1942 Air Losses: 3 Japanese, 4 Allied, 1 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Pacific Just inconclusive sub action. Burma Quiet China He pulled out from the bridgehead hex so I now have a bridgehead across the river and have opened a long supply route to send fuel and supplies to Chengtu. Attack at Neikiang goes well and drives the Chinese out. quote: Attacking force 31007 troops, 398 guns, 402 vehicles, Assault Value = 977 Defending force 41257 troops, 156 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 915 Japanese adjusted assault: 653 Allied adjusted defense: 316 Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 Combat modifiers Defender: preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 544 casualties reported Squads: 1 destroyed, 66 disabled Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Allied ground losses: 13590 casualties reported Squads: 380 destroyed, 120 disabled Non Combat: 574 destroyed, 34 disabled Engineers: 22 destroyed, 23 disabled Guns lost 25 (8 destroyed, 17 disabled) Units retreated 8 Defeated Allied Units Retreating! Assaulting units: 36th Division 20th Recon Regiment 5th Armored Car Co 15th Tank Regiment 8th Armored Car Co 40th Division 26th Recon Regiment 4th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment 13th Mortar Battalion 11th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 12th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion 5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion 6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 13th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion 3rd Army 24th Fld AA Machinecannon Company 10th Medium Field Artillery Regiment Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment 14th JNAF AF Unit /1 Defending units: 44th Chinese Corps 51st Chinese Corps 28th Chinese Corps 52nd Chinese Corps 21st Chinese Corps 62nd Chinese Corps 43rd Chinese Corps 9th Group Army Australia Subs attack a CA task force heading into Perth. Engineering Allies expand Lunga airfield to 2. R&D Quiet Reinforcements An SC arrives.

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/25/2014 12:07:56 PM)
Game was delayed a bit as MrKane demonstrated coffee and computers do not mix. September 22nd 1942 Air Losses: 0 Japanese, 3 Allied, 0 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Tassafaronga(auto) Japanese land at: Allies land at: Pacific Inconclusive action. Tried moving the Zuiho but was a bad move as pumps immediately failed and she sank[:(]. Not unexpected, maybe I should have left her at Rabaul and at least forced him to send bombers. Burma Quiet China Just bombing Australia Quiet Engineering Allies expand Chittagong port to level 5. R&D A6M5b to 12/43.

mind_messing -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/25/2014 1:23:38 PM)
quote: Tried moving the Zuiho but was a bad move as pumps immediately failed and she sank. Not unexpected, maybe I should have left her at Rabaul and at least forced him to send bombers. Yeah, Japanese ships are fragile, fragile things. I've made a point of never moving anything until the system damage is completely gone. It's led to some ships sitting in port with battles ranging in nearby hexes. When you've got a ship as badly damaged as the Zuiho (or anything with 50+ flt damage) try to pair it up with an AR for the trip home. Try to do the trip in as many short hops as possible. That way, if the Japanese damage control team tries to drain the water by opening a hole below the waterline, the damaged ship can disband into a base or dot hex, and the repair ship can help patch up the damage and carry on their way.

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/25/2014 3:00:47 PM)
September 23rd 1942 Air Losses: 23 Japanese, 11 Allied, 7 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Auki(auto) Japanese land at: Allies land at: Pacific I-168 sinks the damaged CL De Ruyter South of Tulagi. Burma Lightnings sweep Magwe. For various reasons the only defense was A6M2 and Ki-43-Ic. However, they do okay, losing 11 Zeroes and 10 Oscars but downing 8 P-38F. China Bombing and some minor attacks. More move arrows suggest an Allied evacuation towards India of many units (probably the most damaged ones). On the road to Tsuyung, attack with tank regiments and get a good result. Will be able to attack again in 2 days. quote: Ground combat at 68,47 (near Kunming) Japanese Deliberate attack Attacking force 18116 troops, 299 guns, 497 vehicles, Assault Value = 614 Defending force 16448 troops, 126 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 339 Japanese adjusted assault: 324 Allied adjusted defense: 607 Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 Combat modifiers Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-) Attacker: Japanese ground losses: 163 casualties reported Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Vehicles lost 13 (1 destroyed, 12 disabled) Allied ground losses: 461 casualties reported Squads: 3 destroyed, 70 disabled Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled Assaulting units: 17th Tank Regiment 3rd Tank Regiment 24th Division 9th Tank Regiment 23rd Tank Regiment 11th Tank Regiment 20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 12th Medium Field Artillery Regiment 15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 12th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion 3rd Mortar Battalion Defending units: 1st Chinese Corps 66th Chinese Corps At Urumchi, enough supply arrives to fix 1 oil well. However, it will be another 10 days before another 1000 supply arrives and can fix the next point so it will be 6 months to fix all the damaged wells. Australia Quiet Engineering Allies expand Lunga airfield to 3 and Ndeni airfield to 3. R&D The first N1K1-J factory has been fully repaired; in advance of the engine even being ready, let alone at 500 stockpiled. Will research this: it will give an aircraft that can get above the P-38 (until the P-38J). Ki-43-IV to 9/44.

Lowpe -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/25/2014 3:39:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mind_messing Yeah, Japanese ships are fragile, fragile things. I've made a point of never moving anything until the system damage is completely gone. It's led to some ships sitting in port with battles ranging in nearby hexes. Do you mean minor flood damage possibly from counter flooding?

mind_messing -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/25/2014 4:17:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe quote: ORIGINAL: mind_messing Yeah, Japanese ships are fragile, fragile things. I've made a point of never moving anything until the system damage is completely gone. It's led to some ships sitting in port with battles ranging in nearby hexes. Do you mean minor flood damage possibly from counter flooding? Minor flooding and accumulated system damage, yes. The dice gods area already stacked against Japanese damage control, so getting rid of those five or six points of system damage help.

Lowpe -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/25/2014 5:22:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mind_messing Minor flooding and accumulated system damage, yes. The dice gods area already stacked against Japanese damage control, so getting rid of those five or six points of system damage help. +1. I encouraged Spidery to stay in port until the minor flooding was pumped out in a pm, but he felt the risk from a port strike was too great. It is a shame when you can both be right and lose the ship no matter what you do.[:(] I have seen over 20 points of counter flooding from torpedo hits...multiple torpedo hits.

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/25/2014 7:09:52 PM)
Aircraft Losses to date [image]local://upfiles/43194/E8B6104FDB3B4280A3D00D60E6704EE5.jpg[/image]

Lowpe -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/25/2014 8:07:52 PM)
I would call those losses very light.[:)] How many total planes do you have in service?

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/26/2014 7:20:37 AM)
September 24th 1942 Air Losses: 1 Japanese, 3 Allied, 0 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Thousand Ships Bay(auto) Japanese land at: Allies land at: Pacific Near Palmyra, I-156 fires 6 torpedoes at BB California: all miss[:@]. BB California and Maryland are spotted. No idea if they are heading to or from Pearl Harbour. Burma Quiet China Just pushing against an open door. Air strikes at Chungking airfields see no flak[;)]. If he is evacuating out of supply Chinese to India they have some 4 to 8 months of walking across mountains without supply, just how much attrition will they take? Australia Quiet Engineering Allies expand Lunga airfield to 4 (Oh to have all those engineers[:D], size 2 on the 21st, size 3 on the 23rd, size 4 on the 24th). R&D Quiet

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/26/2014 7:21:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe I would call those losses very light.[:)] How many total planes do you have in service? I don't know. How can I find out?

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/26/2014 7:28:19 AM)
quote: I would call those losses very light. In comparison to what you took over they certainly are. It is a worry that they are so light but MrKane doesn't give me many opportunities. Since the Japanese can expect to lose all ships and most territory and take a fairly fixed strategic loss the best way to fend off Allied victory is to inflict heavy aircraft losses, as long as they are at less than 2:1. This is best done early.

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/26/2014 8:18:35 AM)
How strong a defense is needed at a base to: a) protect against a surprise Allied parachute attack. b) protect against a surprise Allied sub-transport assault.

GreyJoy -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/26/2014 10:41:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Spidery How strong a defense is needed at a base to: a) protect against a surprise Allied parachute attack. b) protect against a surprise Allied sub-transport assault. If it's in a clear terrain, i'd say at least 50 AVs with some forts (3 minimum). If it's +2 or +3 terrain even less probably, but 50 AVs is a good rule of thumb imh0

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/26/2014 10:58:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreyJoy quote: ORIGINAL: Spidery How strong a defense is needed at a base to: a) protect against a surprise Allied parachute attack. b) protect against a surprise Allied sub-transport assault. If it's in a clear terrain, i'd say at least 50 AVs with some forts (3 minimum). If it's +2 or +3 terrain even less probably, but 50 AVs is a good rule of thumb imh0 Thank-you, so that is about the size of a Naval Guard Unit plus a small engineering unit to get the forts built.

GreyJoy -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/26/2014 10:59:53 AM)
Yes. What base do you have in mind?

Spidery -> RE: Castles in the Sand - Spidery(J) vs MrKane(A) no MrKane please (4/26/2014 11:00:27 AM)
September 25th 1942 Air Losses: 3 Japanese, 3 Allied, 2 Pilots Japanese occupy: Allies occupy: Japanese land at: Allies land at: Pacific I-156 fires puts two torpedoes into the side of CL Nashville[8D]. With MASSIVE EXPLOSIVE DAMAGE and severe damage messages it looks promising but no sinking sounds and no aircraft losses. I-31 sinks a small xAK near Suva[:)]. Allied subs seem active around Rabaul again and MrKane has stepped up night search there. He may be planning another move.[:-] Burma A small Allied CL force bombards Akyab relatively ineffectively. China Kienko appears to have been abandoned[:)]. This will be a big help in letting me get a couple of divisions and an artillery train into action. Another good attack on the road to Burma. Australia SigInt has detected troops moving on Wyndham and on Derby[:(]. Engineering Quiet R&D Quiet

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