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sprior -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/25/2014 8:45:32 PM)

I like my plan better. The Khota Baru and the other place forces all go to Mersing along with the BBs from further up the coast. KB attacks Manila, destroys the boats there. Then they go to support the Mersing landings.



Cap Mandrake -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/25/2014 8:45:51 PM)

The KB would then have 4 carriers and can handle the two USN carriers if they challenge them.

This also has the advantage of allowing both players to have some fun. [:)]

I still think Pearl is better than Manila. Killing subs is nice but wrecking or sinking the BB's is very nice, plus we can kill a bunch of planes at Pearl.



ny59giants -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/25/2014 9:01:42 PM)

If your going to break off a CV from the KB, I usually go with Kaga as she is the only one with speed below 30.

Change the 2 DD TF scheduled to go to Midway to Escort.
Transfer in Kaga.
Change the Home Port to CamRahn Bay.
Pick a hex that you want the Bonus Movement (*) to end.
Have another SC TF with (*) go to same hex so you can recombine on Dec 8th.

Malaya - Rather than land with too much at Kota Bharu, try landing there with just the 18 Div and the 5th Div goes to Kuantan with some BFs. It takes some work to get your TFs at Samah to do this, but it is doable. Then after you can take the bases, recombine the divisions and break up into A, B, C. You can reload and use LRCAP from the fighters you have moved into Kuantan to land at Mersing. This will free up your CVs to go after Force Z.

Since you are playing DBB, their map changes means a successful para drop at Port Dickson can cut the western side (RR) of Malaya from moving troops down and into Singapore. Just remember to LRCAP the base and transport in more troops.

CVL Ryujo - I put her in Bonus Movement TF and have her end turn one at Takao, disbanding. Set her fighters to expand and upgrade to Zero and make sure she gets Kates. On Dec 8th, she is placed in Air TF and send over to join with Kaga. This forms a potent TF. [8D] Make plans early to attack port of Batavia and Soerabaja in December to sink any ships they have left there. Plus, they are good place to repair damaged subs (easier to kill in port than at sea).



Cap Mandrake -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/25/2014 9:02:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sprior

I like my plan better.


[:'(] You are a poopyhead! [:D][:D]

The Mersing attack is a good idea as long as we bring enough to dislodge the Australian brigade there but you don't really need 6 carriers to land at Mersing or Sumatra.

It's most likely Force Z won't react to the Mersing landing because everyone knows what happens with the Bettys and Nells when the sun comes up.

The advantage of having carriers that far West on turn one is trying to catch Force Z in open water. This can be done by moving the carriers to the Midway bombardment TF and changing to Air Combat. We might even catch the CL's lolling about.



sprior -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/25/2014 9:14:27 PM)

The Aussies aren't in Mersing in this scenario. Maybe we can use the Netties to sink the RN and bring down the BBs at Singora to provide surface coverage. There are Zeroes at Soc Trang that might provide LRCAP.



LoBaron -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/25/2014 9:16:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
DON'T PANIC!


Easier said than done. With you two issuing orders to Japan-mens ships.

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Cap Mandrake -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/25/2014 9:35:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sprior

The Aussies aren't in Mersing in this scenario. Maybe we can use the Netties to sink the RN and bring down the BBs at Singora to provide surface coverage. There are Zeroes at Soc Trang that might provide LRCAP.



Wow, didn't know the Aussie brigade isn't at Mersing. That is tempting.

I do think the two BB's plus the 4 CA force in separate taffy's could cover the Mersing landing. If Force Z reacts you get a daytime battle of roughly matched forces plus the CA's to stand by in case Force Z wins. It also does not seem gamey to land there on turn 1 if you send two strong SCTF's.

If Force Z goes South or SW it seems they always get away unless you stir up the mix with carriers.



Wirraway_Ace -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/25/2014 10:16:19 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: sprior

I like my plan better. The Khota Baru and the other place forces all go to Mersing along with the BBs from further up the coast. KB attacks Manila, destroys the boats there. Then they go to support the Mersing landings.


One constraint to consider when you compare and contrast these COAs is where will you rearm your CAGs with the entire KB in the South China Sea? You may quickly find you have essentially six large and unnecessarily fast CVEs.

Is Cam Ranh Bay still a size 5 port with 129 Naval Support in this latest version of DBB? Can Kaga and Akagi even get up the river to Saigon, and is this port still a size 5 anyway with only 44 Nav support? How quickly and safely can you get AKEs to the theater and how many can you spare?

Is the CAG reload for torps still Port 5 + 240 Nav Support?




Wirraway_Ace -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/25/2014 10:25:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

quote:

ORIGINAL: sprior

The Aussies aren't in Mersing in this scenario. Maybe we can use the Netties to sink the RN and bring down the BBs at Singora to provide surface coverage. There are Zeroes at Soc Trang that might provide LRCAP.



Wow, didn't know the Aussie brigade isn't at Mersing. That is tempting.

I do think the two BB's plus the 4 CA force in separate taffy's could cover the Mersing landing. If Force Z reacts you get a daytime battle of roughly matched forces plus the CA's to stand by in case Force Z wins. It also does not seem gamey to land there on turn 1 if you send two strong SCTF's.

If Force Z goes South or SW it seems they always get away unless you stir up the mix with carriers.

Which two BBs matters quite a bit. The Kongos are not normally a match for POW. She can penetrate their armor at just about any range and her heavy armor creates a much larger immunity zone in return. You need the two Nagatos in theater as fast a possible, though you will need AKEs to rearm them too.



witpqs -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/26/2014 12:18:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

quote:

ORIGINAL: sprior

The Aussies aren't in Mersing in this scenario. Maybe we can use the Netties to sink the RN and bring down the BBs at Singora to provide surface coverage. There are Zeroes at Soc Trang that might provide LRCAP.



Wow, didn't know the Aussie brigade isn't at Mersing. That is tempting.

I do think the two BB's plus the 4 CA force in separate taffy's could cover the Mersing landing. If Force Z reacts you get a daytime battle of roughly matched forces plus the CA's to stand by in case Force Z wins. It also does not seem gamey to land there on turn 1 if you send two strong SCTF's.

If Force Z goes South or SW it seems they always get away unless you stir up the mix with carriers.

The gaminess that people talk about with respect to the Mersing landing on turn 1 has to do with prior warning that the British would have had due to active Allied search.



Cap Mandrake -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/26/2014 12:41:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: witpqs

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

quote:

ORIGINAL: sprior

The Aussies aren't in Mersing in this scenario. Maybe we can use the Netties to sink the RN and bring down the BBs at Singora to provide surface coverage. There are Zeroes at Soc Trang that might provide LRCAP.



Wow, didn't know the Aussie brigade isn't at Mersing. That is tempting.

I do think the two BB's plus the 4 CA force in separate taffy's could cover the Mersing landing. If Force Z reacts you get a daytime battle of roughly matched forces plus the CA's to stand by in case Force Z wins. It also does not seem gamey to land there on turn 1 if you send two strong SCTF's.

If Force Z goes South or SW it seems they always get away unless you stir up the mix with carriers.

The gaminess that people talk about with respect to the Mersing landing on turn 1 has to do with prior warning that the British would have had due to active Allied search.


Yes, I see your point. Probably an extra 12 hrs of travel in the real world for 15 kt transports to get to Mersing although the transports heading for the Malaysian Peninsula were spotted prior to Dec 7 in real life. They just weren't sure what the Shinto Boys were up to.



Cap Mandrake -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/26/2014 12:47:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Wirraway_Ace


quote:

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

quote:

ORIGINAL: sprior

The Aussies aren't in Mersing in this scenario. Maybe we can use the Netties to sink the RN and bring down the BBs at Singora to provide surface coverage. There are Zeroes at Soc Trang that might provide LRCAP.



Wow, didn't know the Aussie brigade isn't at Mersing. That is tempting.

I do think the two BB's plus the 4 CA force in separate taffy's could cover the Mersing landing. If Force Z reacts you get a daytime battle of roughly matched forces plus the CA's to stand by in case Force Z wins. It also does not seem gamey to land there on turn 1 if you send two strong SCTF's.

If Force Z goes South or SW it seems they always get away unless you stir up the mix with carriers.

Which two BBs matters quite a bit. The Kongos are not normally a match for POW. She can penetrate their armor at just about any range and her heavy armor creates a much larger immunity zone in return. You need the two Nagatos in theater as fast a possible, though you will need AKEs to rearm them too.


Good point. Also, in a daylight battle with good visibility the Long Lance might not be such a factor. The problem for Force Z, if they head North, are the Netties



Cap Mandrake -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/26/2014 12:47:51 AM)

Why didn't anyone tell us it was this complicated? [:D]



Symon -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/26/2014 1:03:14 AM)

Woof !! This one is gonna be kinda, sorta, little bit good for a Vogon epic, maybe. Like the towel motief; keeps the wet spots away. Looking forward to this. [:)]

Don't know if I would do Mersing ... the Ext Map tweaks S Malaysia a bit and puts the 22nd Aus Bde at Kluong and 27th Aus Bde at Johore Bharu. That's kinda where they actually were, so please be gentle [sm=00001746.gif]

Ciao. J [8D]



zuluhour -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/26/2014 1:22:05 AM)

GEEEZ, now I'm going to have to get a Rapanese dictionary.



witpqs -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/26/2014 1:45:56 AM)

Vogon poetry! [sm=scared0018.gif]



sanch -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/26/2014 4:55:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

Why didn't anyone tell us it was this complicated? [:D]

Wait till you try to figure out how to invest Singers, and Palembang, and Borneo, and PM, and Rangoon, and Aleutians, and Solomons, and Celebes, and ramp up China, and get Batavia and Soerabaya, and all those little dot bases that refuse to spontaneously turn red, and get all this done (and maybe Oz or Ceylon) before your amphibious bonus goes away. Turn 1 is easy!

My head just about exploded from overload starting my PBEM as Japan.



witpqs -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/26/2014 6:44:49 AM)

Especially Kalao.



uncivil_servant -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/26/2014 3:26:22 PM)

Wait... I might have an idea of what your strategy will be..



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Cap Mandrake -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/26/2014 5:46:59 PM)


Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
Thy micturitions are to me,
As plurdled gabbleblotchits,
On a lurgid bee,
That mordiously hath blurted out,
Its earted jurtles,
Into a rancid festering confectious organ squealer. [drowned out by moaning and screaming]
Now the jurpling slayjid agrocrustles,
Are slurping hagrilly up the axlegrurts,
And living glupules frart and slipulate,
Like jowling meated liverslime,
Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turling dromes,
And hooptiously drangle me,
With crinkly bindlewurdles,
Or else I shall rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon,
See if I don't.



witpqs -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/26/2014 6:04:49 PM)

Did you know that Google only allows 32 words in Queries? Oh, and you have a little spelling error. [:D]

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sprior -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/26/2014 6:16:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: uncivil_servant

Wait... I might have an idea of what your strategy will be..




Quick, do an audit of all the fourth rotors, I fear one may have gone missing.



kaleun -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/26/2014 9:01:35 PM)

Suscribed



sprior -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/26/2014 9:02:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kaleun

Suscribed


I'm sorry. I hope the effects won't be too long lasting.



poodlebrain -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/26/2014 11:24:02 PM)

Do you have time in your preparations for war as the Japanese to recite Grunthos the Flatulent's epic Ode To A Small Lump Of Green Putty I Found In MY Armpit One Midsummer Morning? A true Vogon masterpiece. As far as a war strategy you could just go around blowing things up in Vogon fashion.



poodlebrain -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/27/2014 12:24:11 AM)

One other matter to clear up before you are otherwise occupied. Will the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation play a role similar to that of M&M Enterprises during this war? Will Marvin be their representative? Will Japanese aircraft and ships be equipped with a "Genuine People Personality" similar to Marvin? Just think how many volunteers you can get for Kamikaze missions if your weapons platforms are as depressing as Marvin.



sprior -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/27/2014 7:25:15 AM)

No, but they will all be issued with a towel.



witpqs -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/27/2014 4:26:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sprior

No, but they will all be issued with a towel.

...embroidered with Vogon poetry! [:D]



sprior -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/28/2014 6:02:59 PM)

I suppose we should actually start this game soon.



poodlebrain -> RE: A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere (3/28/2014 6:19:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sprior

I suppose we should actually start this game soon.
I was waiting to see how many pages this After Action Report would contain before there was any action to report, review and analyze.



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