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Flaviusx -> RE: T57 - Southwest (7/2/2014 4:54:30 PM)

A dozen or so tank corps for 1942 is a pretty good target given the truck situation. Mileage will vary. In this game I'd say you could comfortably exceed that. Frankly, I'd be less worried about trucks here than simply putting them on the map and getting them battle experience. You don't need them to be fully mobile since you're likely looking at a long slow grind forward. Ironically, you probably need more trucks on the defense in 1942 in order to make whatever tank corps you've got as mobile and responsive as possible...and likely being held back a good distance from the front lines in many cases so they don't get gobbled up by a panzer ball. They hit and run and respond to fires.

That's not really the case here. For your purposes a couple of dozen tank corps with, say, 3/4 of their trucks on hand grinding away might be better than half that amount zipping about on fire brigade duty. Then again, your AP budget only goes so far and it's entirely reasonable at this point to throw everything you got into rifle corps. If it's going to be a slow grind forward, then they're the unit of choice. I'd say that's what holding you back more than trucks per se.

You're in a good position to raise 2-3 rifle corps per turn since you don't have unit losses to worry about and I assume you've got your command control completely ironed out. Call it 10 rifle corps per month for the rest of the year -- that's probably half the Red Army flipped over to corps by year's end, which is crazy good. Any tank corps raised will eat into that. (And down the line, into arty divisions.) With that in mind, 14 tank corps is good enough for gov't work.




charlie0311 -> RE: T57 - Southwest (7/2/2014 8:45:02 PM)

back to war room for questions, kinda tired of seeing my name all over the place




Oshawott -> T58 - Leningrad (7/3/2014 2:18:05 AM)

T58 - Leningrad

The Finns are retreating north. I think he has too many troops in Karelia. I have set up a rifle corps army west of the Volkohv and this turn I am starting my Leningrad offensive with 4 rifle corps. Also, a cavalry army is railed from Karelia into this area and will join the fight next turn.

The Finnish troops are deeply entrenched but they have suffered continued loss of moral and their CV has steadily declined. A Finnish infantry division is routed because it does not have a valid retreat path.

In other parts of the front the Axis offensive has stalled and he is setting up defensive lines and disperses his mobile forces. I reorganize my troops and will try to find a weak spot.



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Oshawott -> T58 - Data (7/3/2014 2:19:09 AM)

T58 - Data



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Oshawott -> T59 - Leningrad (7/9/2014 2:46:11 PM)

T59 - Leningrad

Slowly grinding my way west. The goal is to clear the banks of the Neva before the next blizzard.



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Oshawott -> T59 - Southwest (7/9/2014 2:48:05 PM)

T59 - Southwest

I am concentrating my forces at Orel and Kharkov.



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Oshawott -> T59 - Southwest (7/9/2014 2:52:00 PM)

T59 - South

In the south I have assembled almost all of Western Front to push west. Southern Front will join soon.



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Oshawott -> T59 - Data (7/9/2014 2:53:36 PM)

T59 - Data

I have stopped growing my OOB. I will try to keep it below 9 million for as long as possible.



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Oshawott -> T60 - Leningrad (7/10/2014 11:38:27 PM)

T60 - Leningrad

A slow grind but I have time.



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Oshawott -> T60 - Orel (7/10/2014 11:40:14 PM)

T60 - Orel

I am confronted with nothing but level 3 forts but I have 2 Cavalry Armies and 2 Rifle Corps armies in this sector. I'm just happy with one or two attacks per turn in this sector.




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Oshawott -> T60 - Kharkov (7/10/2014 11:43:41 PM)

T60 - Kharkov

I have amassed some of my best troops in this sector. This is one of his weak spots. A thin line and not all fortifications are finished. I am able to open a 30 mile gap in the German line and to encircle two divisions and one construction battalion. It would be easy to make a solid encirclement but that would just cause massive Russian losses on the next turn.



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Oshawott -> T60 - Data (7/10/2014 11:44:34 PM)

T60 - Data



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Oshawott -> T61 - North (7/13/2014 1:59:50 AM)

T61 - North

Grinding west one battle at a time.



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Oshawott -> T61 - Orel (7/13/2014 2:01:21 AM)

T61 - Orel

One or two attacks in this sector per turn. I always try to get back to save positions. He has a lot of armor in this sector.



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Oshawott -> T61 - Kharkov and South (7/13/2014 2:04:21 AM)

T61 - Kharkov and South

Same at Kharkov. Always retreating back to safe positions after my attacks. In the south my goal is to enlarge the bridgehead across the Dnepr and to completely relief Dnepropetrovsk.



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Oshawott -> T61 - Odessa (7/13/2014 2:05:46 AM)

T61 - Odessa

Odessa is safe. The bombing of the port has failed.



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Oshawott -> T61 - Guards Army (7/13/2014 2:07:45 AM)

T61 - Guards Army

I receive my first Guards Army.





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Oshawott -> T61 - Data (7/13/2014 2:08:08 AM)

T61 - Data



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Flaviusx -> RE: T61 - Guards Army (7/13/2014 3:53:35 AM)

What was the win loss rate on that Guards army?





loki100 -> RE: T61 - Guards Army (7/13/2014 7:51:36 AM)

seems as if, in the center-south, at least, Stef has managed to stall you? You seem to be conducting an essentially raiding strategy for the moment.





Oshawott -> RE: T61 - Guards Army (7/13/2014 12:49:19 PM)

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What was the win loss rate on that Guards army?


I didn't look at the time but it's safe to say that the ration on T61 was 80:50.

On T70 the ratio for 13th Army is 79:40. 16th Army has a ratio of 80:33. Both of these have not turned Guards.




Oshawott -> RE: T61 - Guards Army (7/13/2014 12:50:21 PM)

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seems as if, in the center-south, at least, Stef has managed to stall you? You seem to be conducting an essentially raiding strategy for the moment.


Definitely at Kharkov and Orel. The North and South is a different story. All other attacks are just diversions.




Flaviusx -> RE: T61 - Guards Army (7/13/2014 7:45:04 PM)

Hmmm, seems like you have a few more candidates for guards then. It's always been kind of sketchy as to when armies flip over.

You might consider reassigning those tank corps to your guards army, unless you plan on raising tank army HQs. Which you could easily afford to do here.




Oshawott -> RE: T61 - Guards Army (7/13/2014 9:00:10 PM)

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You might consider reassigning those tank corps to your guards army, unless you plan on raising tank army HQs.


I think in this game I will wait until 43 and then I reorganize my army. At the moment I usually get 48-50 MP on the majority of my tank corps especially if I let them rest for a turn. Rarely I get anything below 38 MP.




caliJP -> RE: T61 - Guards Army (7/14/2014 1:51:28 PM)

Oshawott, how many Cavalry Corps do you have?




Oshawott -> RE: T61 - Guards Army (7/14/2014 3:47:20 PM)

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Oshawott, how many Cavalry Corps do you have?


I have 27 Cavalry Corps. I just build the last one with reinforcements I received.




Oshawott -> T62 - North (7/15/2014 2:22:38 AM)

T62 - North

Inching westwards. Pushkin is the first goal.


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Oshawott -> T62 - Orel (7/15/2014 2:24:13 AM)

T62 - Orel

Orel remains very difficult despite all the fire power I have in this sector.



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Oshawott -> T62 - Kharkov and South (7/15/2014 2:28:11 AM)

T62 - Kharkov and South

The air war is definitely heating up. An air battle with 600+ planes. Main goal is to increase morale of my tank corps, to completely free Dnepropetrovsk and to enlarge the bridgehead over the Dnepr.



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Oshawott -> T62 - Data (7/15/2014 2:30:14 AM)

T62 - Data

OOB is leveling off and manpower and armaments pools are on the rise.



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