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bigbaba -> RE: T19 Battle (5/10/2014 1:17:32 PM)

the axis panzer numbers are realy low and that will lead us into a very intresting blizzard. i hope he has some kind of "panther-line" in preperation as a fallback position or you will bring his army well below 3 millions and his tank strength well under 1000 by the end of the blizzard.

it would be wise for him to do only moral boosting attacks in winter and then to fall back at least 8-10 hexes in december into a fortline with level 2 forts and terrain advantage.



Oshawott -> RE: T19 Battle (5/10/2014 2:28:23 PM)

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it would be wise for him to do only moral boosting attacks in winter and then to fall back at least 8-10 hexes in december into a fortline with level 2 forts and terrain advantage.


He is preparing a fall back line west of Voronezh. There is a bulge there and it is very wise of him to pull back in that area. Other then that he will try to hold the line in level 2/3 forts and using cities as shelter. This can be very effective. I have only played one reduced blizzard as Axis and used the same strategy with great success.



Oshawott -> T20 North (5/10/2014 2:36:26 PM)

T20 - North

I took maps so I post them. There are no battles this turn. I receive two additional guard rifle divisions.

Many turns ago I put an airbase north of Leningrad with nothing but fighters in them. This has been very effective during the air war. Once Leningrad is encircled I will put these fighters into reserve and use the airbase to resupply the pocket.



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Oshawott -> T20 Center (5/10/2014 2:40:33 PM)

T20 - Center

16th and 13th army have mostly guard divisions in them. I bet they turn into guard armies during blizzard.



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Oshawott -> T20 Tula + Voronezh (5/10/2014 2:41:43 PM)

T20 - Tula and Voronezh

Still some supply problems here but nothing I can exploit.



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Oshawott -> T20 South (5/10/2014 2:45:25 PM)

T20 - South

All quiet on the Southern Front.



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Oshawott -> T20 Crimea (5/10/2014 2:47:12 PM)

T20 - Crimea

It is odd to only be confronted with Romanians in this sector.



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Oshawott -> T20 Data (5/10/2014 2:48:27 PM)

T20 - Data

Forgot to take the OOB screenshot. Instead I am showing Axis air losses. The bomber losses are astounding. Armaments are finally at 0.



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loki100 -> RE: T20 Data (5/10/2014 7:21:35 PM)

I've never seen airlosses like that - although you have paid a heavy price too for doing so much damage.

Its not as if you've only been able to destroy JU-97s with so many tactical bombers lost as well



Oshawott -> RE: T20 Data (5/10/2014 11:55:38 PM)

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I've never seen airlosses like that - although you have paid a heavy price too for doing so much damage.


What makes it even more surprising is that 3000+ of my losses are from T1 airfield bombings. [X(]



Oshawott -> T21 Data (5/11/2014 12:05:02 AM)

T21 - Data

No combats and maps haven't changed so I go straight to the data.



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Oshawott -> RE: T21 Data (5/11/2014 12:07:47 AM)

T21 - Air War

Two highlights of the Russian air force. The U2-VS can be quite useful for night bombings. If I read it correctly more then 40,000 airplanes of this type were produced until 1953.



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Oshawott -> T22 - North (5/12/2014 2:35:42 AM)

T22 - Leningrad

Osinovets has fallen. I supply the pocket by air in the hope that I can delay his advance. Another epic air battle has taken place. More then 200 Russian fighters are participating and they shoot down plenty of bombers. I lose mostly obsolete I16.

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Oshawott -> T22 - VL (5/12/2014 2:38:19 AM)

T22 - VL

Interesting development. He decides to go for VL. I assume he wants to conquer the city and the terrain here to get a favorable position during blizzard. Cities, level 4 towns and good terrain are extremely important during reduced blizzard. VL gets encircled but I manage to break the encirclement.



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Oshawott -> T22 - Rzevh (5/12/2014 2:39:49 AM)

T22 - Rzevh

Likewise in this sector. He goes for small gains and takes Rzevh.



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Oshawott -> T22 - Tula + Voronezh (5/12/2014 2:42:21 AM)

T22 - Tula + Voronezh

He is very quiet in this sector building up fortifications. I continue counterattacking. I need to soften up his lines as much as I can before blizzard.



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Oshawott -> T22 - South (5/12/2014 2:45:22 AM)

T22 - South

Likewise in front of Stalino. The only ones attacking are the Russians.



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Oshawott -> T22 - Crimea (5/12/2014 2:48:36 AM)

T22 - Crimea

What is happening here? He moves a Panzer Corps to the Crimea. I think his plan is to cut off my troops. I play it safe and retreat. He supplies his tanks by air five times. Also, I have started to fill the Crimea with infantry and tank brigades. My goal is to use them for reserve activation during attacking and defending.



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Oshawott -> T22 - Battles (5/12/2014 2:50:07 AM)

T22 - Battles

13 attacks during this turn. Even the powerful air landing division gets a kick in the butt.

1 battle requires 1=2 due to reserve activation.



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Oshawott -> T22 - Data (5/12/2014 2:53:18 AM)

T22 - Data

The data for T22. Weirdly enough the manpower pool is rising.

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Oshawott -> T23 - North (5/13/2014 9:09:05 PM)

T23 - North

Fortress Leningrad is still holding. I am not sure why he is not going for an all out attack on the city using 1st and 2nd Corps.

I start pushing a little south of Lake Ilmen.



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Oshawott -> T23 - Center (5/13/2014 9:12:40 PM)

T23 - Center

He takes VL and Rzevh. I mostly rest my troops now so that they get close to 100% TOE. Otherwise he just focuses on building fortifications. You can see the fort line. Not sure how smart this is. The construction value of those forts is pretty dismal.





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Oshawott -> T23 - Tula + Voronezh (5/13/2014 9:15:07 PM)

T23 - Tula + Voronezh

You can clearly see the second line forming west of Voronezh. I flip a lot of individual hexes.



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Oshawott -> T23 - South (5/13/2014 9:20:57 PM)

T23 - South

As you can see I have started reorganizing my army. I use Volkhov front in the south. I apologize to all the historians in the forum but I simply have no use for it further north. Transcaucasus takes position south of Volkhov front. North Caucasus front defends the Crimea and one army takes position at the very south of the main front.



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Oshawott -> T23 - Crimea (5/13/2014 9:23:30 PM)

T23 - Crimea

His last push into the Crimea. It is clear what he wants to do. Capture the landbridge and defend it with three units and reserves behind. There is nothing I can do. My forces are too weak. But I continue to fill the Crimea with rifle and tank brigades.



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Oshawott -> T23 - Battles (5/13/2014 9:24:51 PM)

T23 - Battles

Only 5 battles and 1 battle requires 1=2.



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Oshawott -> T23 - Data (5/13/2014 9:27:11 PM)

T23 - Data

Would be interesting if someone could comment about these numbers. For example is the vehicle number normal? Is it normal to run out of armament points that early?



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BJP III -> RE: T23 - Data (5/14/2014 3:37:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Oshawott

T23 - Data

Would be interesting if someone could comment about these numbers. For example is the vehicle number normal? Is it normal to run out of armament points that early?



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I think you have two issues. First, your casualties are really low, so your army requires proportionally more ARM. Second, from your earlier comment, you have your TOE set to 100%. If so, that is a big drain on ARM -- I believe most SHC players keep their divisions at 80% or so, and all artillery units at 50% or so.



Flaviusx -> RE: T23 - Data (5/14/2014 5:19:33 PM)

It's quite normal to run out of armaments at this stage of the game or even as early as October if you've done a good job preserving the Red Army and evacuated all the armament factories. I don't recommend setting divisions to 80% TOE, myself, rifle divisions are weak enough as is. I do dial down the settings on artillery SUs. Beyond that you should consider outright disbanding a bunch armament hungry but doubtfully effective SUs. All you really need are sappers and enough arty RVGK regiments to trick out your armies. You shouldn't have to build any SUs at all besides sappers until later in the game. Then you can consider adding AT, AA, and mortar units.

You need to be careful about who gets refits at this point, though. And you probably also want to leave the mass of rifle and tank brigade shells you get towards the end of the year on depleted status. (By steering replacements elsewhere via refit.)

Armaments along with trucks are the two major chokepoints for the Red Army in terms of replacements. No matter how well managed shortages will plague you all the way into 43. Any kind of reserve that you build up tends to get wiped out by mass TOE changes in 42.



Oshawott -> RE: T23 - Data (5/15/2014 1:14:51 AM)

Thanks for the input. I do adjust TOE settings. All units not used on the front line are set to 50% and all artillery SUs are set to 70%. All armor and motorized units are set to 50% with a few exceptions. And I mostly build sappers as support units because I know that every Axis player goes for forts if he doesn't win in 42. The only other support unit I build in 41 are Howitzer regiments because there are so many in the pool.

It is a good idea to leave all those rifle and tank brigades depleted until the armament and manpower situation improves.



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