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Mike McCreery -> RE: Groundhog Day! (3/26/2016 12:38:24 AM)

Holy missile launch batman!!



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Mike McCreery -> RE: Groundhog Day! (3/26/2016 12:44:21 AM)

This is just ugly.



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BBfanboy -> RE: Groundhog Day! (3/26/2016 12:56:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Wargmr

This is just ugly.



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Looks like Singapore in early 1942 - in reverse! Were his troops heavily battered or just poor quality ones with low morale (ready to surrender). If the latter, they maybe just wanted to find out what the legendary "Spam" was really like!



Mike McCreery -> RE: Groundhog Day! (3/26/2016 1:10:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy


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ORIGINAL: Wargmr

This is just ugly.





Looks like Singapore in early 1942 - in reverse! Were his troops heavily battered or just poor quality ones with low morale (ready to surrender). If the latter, they maybe just wanted to find out what the legendary "Spam" was really like!



It was all the units around the perimeter cities of Formosa herded to that one spot and squashed. I was killing thousands per day upon the mountain with air bombardments. I think they probably love spam!!




Mike McCreery -> RE: Groundhog Day! (3/27/2016 3:24:47 PM)

China December 1944

Within 2 weeks Tsinian will be in real trouble. There are remnants of the battle of Hangchow moving northeast but there is little AV in the stack(s).

NJP already has 50,000+ troops in the heavy urban hex of Tientsu and I am sure that is where a siege will take place with most of the remaining Chinese army.

Troops just captured Kaifeng and there is no real resistance in the area at this time. A few units deployed to dot hexes to prevent paradrops. This will cut China in 2 pieces.

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Mike McCreery -> RE: Groundhog Day! (3/31/2016 4:54:46 PM)

Western China

There is a pocket of troops left in Indochina. The current stack at Vinh has just over 430AV. I am guessing he has less than 800AV total in the pocket. I have over 2000 AV of troops backed up waiting to clear the logjam.

Up north Japanese troops stubbornly cling to the mountain passes. I am bombing them daily and wearing down the AV. The ground troops are Chinese so it is not an easy fight to clear out. I am not trying really hard.

The plan is to have the british and indian troops eventually get to Chungking.

There is about 240 LI left working for Japan at the bases in this picture including 143 at Chungking.


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Mike McCreery -> RE: Groundhog Day! (3/31/2016 5:04:29 PM)

Eastern China

NJP has about 14 units with 30,000 troops bobbling about north of Hangchow. It looked like they might try to attack the city or maybe move east to attack shanghai. I was hitting them with bombers and they were sending up flak for quite some time letting me know they were in supply. Recently the flak stopped and the direction changed. Not sure where they are going to go but I am not going to waste ground resources chasing them.

Hangchow is being reinforced by all the troops from Formosa and will soon have 2000AV ready to move out where needed.

NJP has another stack of 10 units moving SE toward the coast of the yellow sea north of Shanghai. He is using these as a CAP trap.

There is 1000 AV moving toward Tsingtao and it should fall within a week.

NJP had about 1600AV in Tsinian which he moved out and up toward Tientsin. He already has 100,000 troops in that city. It is logical for him to hole up in that city and Peiping for defense.

I dont know if it is worth trying to crack that nut. I am looking at taking Tangshan just east and getting a huge bombardment fleet set up there while picking a better beachead along the Korean coast to port my army over. I want to take Korea and then maybe invade the japanese mainland from Fusan.

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Crackaces -> RE: Groundhog Day! (4/1/2016 12:36:55 AM)

(Just a comment from the peanut gallery) The Allies in my really have lots of options and slamming your head against a wall does not need to be one of them ..
His need to defend the Tientsin -> Peiping line opens up Chinchow or the hail mary right into Korea ..It will be interesting what recon and sigint show how the IJ are defending this untenable position
The endgame is near ... [8D]



Lowpe -> RE: Groundhog Day! (4/1/2016 1:34:35 AM)

Korea is fairly defendable....that is until the Soviets are active.[;)]

Uh oh.



Mike McCreery -> RE: Groundhog Day! (4/1/2016 4:15:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Crackaces

(Just a comment from the peanut gallery) The Allies in my really have lots of options and slamming your head against a wall does not need to be one of them ..
His need to defend the Tientsin -> Peiping line opens up Chinchow or the hail mary right into Korea ..It will be interesting what recon and sigint show how the IJ are defending this untenable position
The endgame is near ... [8D]


You are correct. I have no intention of slamming my head against the wall. I am thinking directly onto the beaches on the west side of Korea.

Port Arthur has 24K troops and 200 guns. He probably does not have much on those western bases that do not have any production.

I am assembling the bargy ships as we speak LCI,LST,apd. Tsingtao is going to drop within a week giving me a decent size airfield closer to those bases.



Mike McCreery -> RE: Groundhog Day! (4/1/2016 3:31:19 PM)

I need some blue pills!!!

My 16/45 Mk 6 gun is broken. I have over 7100 rearm in Hong Kong which is a shipyard size 50 with 132 Naval Support.

Shanghai is re-building the shipyard there and has 8800 rearm due to a naval fleet base and 564 Naval Support.

So, what level do I need? The effect which was noted as one of the parts of the calculation is 2048.

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Lowpe -> RE: Groundhog Day! (4/1/2016 3:43:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Wargmr

I need some blue pills!!!

My 16/45 Mk 6 gun is broken. I have over 7100 rearm in Hong Kong which is a shipyard size 50 with 132 Naval Support.

Shanghai is re-building the shipyard there and has 8800 rearm due to a naval fleet base and 564 Naval Support.

So, what level do I need? The effect which was noted as one of the parts of the calculation is 2048.

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I suspect the war maybe over by the time you fix that turret.




Mike McCreery -> RE: Groundhog Day! (4/3/2016 12:35:20 AM)

The bear unchained



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Mike McCreery -> RE: Groundhog Day! (4/3/2016 3:50:27 AM)

China is falling back in Russia. The big guns can tear units apart. I am doing 1000+ casualties per turn with a few large stacks of artillery.

NJP has 2000AV+ up in northern Russia. His supply lines are cut again along with the rail lines. I think one of the biggest mistakes he made in the Russian campaign was to not secure the central supply lines before rushing north.

I have over 2000 AV bearing down from the north and 3000+ av tearing up the central plains. NJP has another large stack in the plains north of Harbin although I am not sure why he is wasting his time up there. He cannot cut me off anymore and the targets for Russia are the large towns such as Harbin.



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Mike McCreery -> RE: Groundhog Day! (4/3/2016 11:17:56 PM)

Saishu To Invasion



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BBfanboy -> RE: Groundhog Day! (4/4/2016 3:45:11 AM)

Oh, just go on up to Chinnampo and liberate the 4077 M*A*S*H unit! There is industry there, a good road to get inland and likely few troops.



Mike McCreery -> RE: Groundhog Day! (4/4/2016 12:14:58 PM)

What an airshow!!!

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ny59giants -> RE: Groundhog Day! (4/4/2016 1:00:03 PM)

Out of the 220, how many pilots did you lose? The USN can afford airframes more than the US Army can. Overall, how are your pilot pools?



Mike McCreery -> RE: Groundhog Day! (4/4/2016 2:13:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Out of the 220, how many pilots did you lose? The USN can afford airframes more than the US Army can. Overall, how are your pilot pools?


I have no idea how many pilots I lost. NJP sank 4 CVE's in that go-round. Not a great back and forth but I will take it in exchange for the island.

Pools? Pools are for swimming in!!! My pilot pools are horrible. I am wielding the airforce like a club rather than a saber.

NJP's entire surface fleet is at Moppo, 2 hexes northeast of me. If I cant get my carriers out of danger this next turn is going to be awful. Havent decided what to do yet. I have about 6 hours to figure it out.

The naval portion of this game is pretty much over. NJP just lost a good portion of his air arm attacking my carrier fleet.

The reason for capturing Saishu To and most likely Moppo next is to allow me easier access to the western beaches of Korea.

From now the game is mostly going to center around LBA and large troop movements.




Lowpe -> RE: Groundhog Day! (4/4/2016 3:48:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Wargmr


From now the game is mostly going to center around LBA and large troop movements.




Not too many players get to this point, and this now is your 2nd roundup!

Well done. Both of you.[:)]
[&o]



Mike McCreery -> RE: Groundhog Day! (4/4/2016 4:05:13 PM)

Ok, going for a left hook here.

My guess is that NJP will attempt to hit some surface fleets, possibly interdict my carriers and then retreat under heavy LBA cap.

I do not believe he will attempt to attack Saishu To directly. At least I hope not... LOL!!

The plan as I understand it is that all of the surface fleets at Saishu To will meet with the carrier groups which will then relocate to Saishu To along with all of the other groups. Basically I am going to try to hold steady.

Last turn my attack radius was set to 1 which prevented a massive attack on his surface fleets. I have now set my range to 2. Also, all 4EB's available will be hitting Moppo with ground and air attacks.

If NJP is smart he will attempt some surface attacks and retreat east. If he holds at Moppo there is going to be a lot of fighting. Hopefully my carriers/STF's are fast enough to get to Saishu To before his surface groups reach me.

If I am wrong it is likely that CV's will burn next turn.

It is Christmas day... Who is going to get the presents and who is going to get the coal?


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Lowpe -> RE: Groundhog Day! (4/4/2016 4:12:55 PM)

Aggressiveness, thy name is Waramr.

Good luck![sm=00000613.gif]



Mike McCreery -> RE: Groundhog Day! (4/4/2016 4:13:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe


quote:

ORIGINAL: Wargmr


From now the game is mostly going to center around LBA and large troop movements.




Not too many players get to this point, and this now is your 2nd roundup!

Well done. Both of you.[:)]
[&o]



Thank you sir. But the excellent play goes to NJP. Someone said once, maybe Pax, that all the Allies need to do is manage to not lose their carriers in 1942/43 and it is a slam dunk from there (paraphrasing). But it is true. Hats off to all you JFB's. Your game is a whole dimension more difficult than the allies.



ny59giants -> RE: Groundhog Day! (4/4/2016 9:55:17 PM)

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I have no idea how many pilots I lost.


On Intelligence screen, hit "List Top Pilots." Look in bottom left hand corner. Good place to go after major A2A action.



Mike McCreery -> RE: Groundhog Day! (4/5/2016 7:40:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

quote:

I have no idea how many pilots I lost.


On Intelligence screen, hit "List Top Pilots." Look in bottom left hand corner. Good place to go after major A2A action.


Thank you for that pointer.

In the turn where he lost 700+ aircraft my stats were as follows

49 MIA 27 WIA 72 KIA

Last turn they were

41 MIA 21 WIA 50 KIA

I lost about the same number of planes this turn as last turn but NJP's losses were about equal today.



Mike McCreery -> RE: Groundhog Day! (4/5/2016 7:54:50 PM)

Well, he came right at me and I didnt move.... *sigh*

On the bad side.

Over the course of the last 2 days over 700 naval points of carriers have been sunk.

Many of my main carriers just got hit in surface combats.

On the good side.

No fleet carriers are even close to sinking and most only have minor damage to flotation and engines.

NJP lost 2 heavy cruisers, 2 light cruisers and probably a battleship at least on paper if not sunk.

The invasion of Saishu To was a complete success resulting in 1 division, 2 armor units plus 5 coastal AA units and 2 base groups now installed on the island under my control.

The loss of 2 CVL's and 3 CVE's hurts in terms of points but tactically and/or strategically it really makes no difference at this point. The western coast of Korea is open for invasion. I am going to put 3-4000 AV through the hole between the 2 heavy urban cities in (Northern)China and then drive them into Korea while invading the coast where opportunity presents itself.






BBfanboy -> RE: Groundhog Day! (4/5/2016 10:24:57 PM)

Which two heavy urban cities? There are more than two in China.
The gap between Nanking and Shanghai shows on your map but it is a long hike to Korea and you need to get by two more big cities - Peiping and Tientsin. Or are those the two you refer to?

If the latter, where is all that AV now? Surely you don't have that much in eastern China already?



Mike McCreery -> RE: Groundhog Day! (4/6/2016 3:23:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Which two heavy urban cities? There are more than two in China.
The gap between Nanking and Shanghai shows on your map but it is a long hike to Korea and you need to get by two more big cities - Peiping and Tientsin. Or are those the two you refer to?

If the latter, where is all that AV now? Surely you don't have that much in eastern China already?


Yes, there are more than two but there are only 3 left and the 2 northern ones are the ones I was referring to.

I am less than 200 miles from the Manchuko Border. There is 1800AV of troops at Paoting and more railing in daily.

The Russians have come down from the north and captured most of the cities north of those.

It aint looking pretty for the Japanese.



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Mike McCreery -> RE: Groundhog Day! (4/9/2016 2:26:29 PM)

Massive battle at Nunkiang goes badly for the Japanese





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Mike McCreery -> RE: Groundhog Day! (4/11/2016 3:25:10 PM)

World Map Jan 11 1945

Palembang will fall within a week to a brigade sized unit. The Japanese troops have mostly starved to death. My overall strategic plan to cut off the oil from Japan succeeded and I was able to use troops that would have been bogged down in Sumatra and Java to launch an early offensive on the Phillipines.

For the 2nd game in a row my opponent did not have the Phillipines garrisoned with many troops resulting in an easy win of Luzon. I think this is probably the biggest strategic error NJP made in this game.

There are about 4000AV worth of british and indian troops moving on Chungking. Not counting the inner ring of 4 cities I have counted 25 units in between me and the city. It would take 26 days in move mode to reach Chungking by road movement at this time. The 25 units are mostly support and beat up regiments. I do not anticipate much organized resistance.

Chungking is producing 143LI and a nearby city is producing about 30 more so there is limited supply in the region.

The plan is to spearhead into the city, freeing up all those chinese units for garrison duty. I anticipate it taking 1-2 months to get this done.

Meanwhile, Japan is fighting furiously still in Manchuko and leading me to consider just backing the russians off into good defensive terrain as his western front could become quickly overrun by the American troops which have broken past Peiping and Tientsin.

Ultimately in this game I wish to overrun Korea and if necessary stage an amphibious invasion from Fusan. TAKE THAT FUSAN!!! (for readers of my last AAR ;] )

The current timeline for the war is 3 months to release Chungking and get that moving and then another 3 months prep for the invasion and an amphibious invasion by June. I hope to end the war by August. I do not think that I can end it before April unless the Japanese completely collapse.



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