RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please

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ny59giants -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/18/2015 11:33:07 AM)
Anything hit with a torpedo will show up as sunk regardless of the ship size. That's the way the AI rolls. [:D]

DanSez -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/18/2015 5:13:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants Anything hit with a torpedo will show up as sunk regardless of the ship size. That's the way the AI rolls. [:D] That is good to know. It might explain some results I have in another tale (Battle of Kuching) where the little DD Maikaze looks like a raging bull. Will get to that over the next couple of days (got another turn to flip after work).

DanSez -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/18/2015 5:19:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: setloz The answer to first question is yes. For the second one, I don't know of a link between those ratios. ... One thing I noticed - you are using Betties and Nells in ground bombing duty. The starting pilots in these squadrons are great, having been trained in Nav/LowN/Search skills. Some of them also have 70-80 exp. These are very hard to train on your own and you should not waste them on ground attack duties. Let the Army boys do their thing and get the Navy flyers to attack shipping only. PS. Congrats on sinking the infamous Boise. The Houston and Marblehead sinking is the icing on the cake. [:D] Thanks for the answer and replies. Yes I have been pulling back on using Bettys for ground attacks -- this one slipped by the sensors. Nells are not being used for ground attacks anywhere. I hope both the Houston and Marblehead are sleeping with the fish. The next phase of attacks in the Davao area are just leaving Babeldaob, with better carrier support than just the Taiyo.

DanSez -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/18/2015 5:26:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Encircled You need your Air HQs as far forward as you can manage. Once you can cover landings with Bettys and Nells with torps, then the allied navies will really struggle to interdict. Sweep, sweep, sweep, sweep, sweep and sweep with your fighters, especially the Zeros. Nothing can match them at this stage 21st Air Flotilla now at Babeldaob and a couple of smaller JAAF type support elements landed or are nearly there. Timing is critical and something you see in the master game players. I am still busting my knuckles on the door of knowledge. Speaking of sweep sweep sweep - 3 full sentai of Oscars getting ready to fly over Singapore in the next couple of game days. Army bombers moved and moving into the initial landing sites as well to start pounding the lower part of the Malaysian Peninsula.

Lowpe -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/18/2015 5:56:17 PM)
AA at Singers will be nasty, so fly high...maybe 20K+, bomb the airfields to keep fort building to a minimal, but only unleash them after some good sweeps.

DanSez -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/18/2015 8:13:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe AA at Singers will be nasty, so fly high...maybe 20K+, bomb the airfields to keep fort building to a minimal, but only unleash them after some good sweeps. Thanks for the warning - I hope to sweep only for the near time and try to bomb his defensive lines and retreating troops as I advance down Malaysia. Do you recommend night bombing Singers to reduce morale? Hate to start that up, but I'm sure to get more than my fair share of it.

ny59giants -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/18/2015 9:23:08 PM)
IMO, its more important to damage the AFs at Singapore and prevent fort building than it is to bomb his retreating troops. Second, ONLY enter Singapore with FULL divisions. If you go in with brigades and/or divisional components, those LCUs will get trashed when you attack. Got the scars from doing it. [sm=nono.gif] Even if you go in with full divisions, plan on one of them to become severely disabled when the shock attack occurs. This doesn't always happen, but it occurs more often than you would think.

Lowpe -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/18/2015 10:31:03 PM)
Absolutely concur, don't waste planes bombing his troops in the jungle while Singers is digging in. Priority one is sweeps and second priority is stop fort building at Singers.

DanSez -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/18/2015 11:52:40 PM)
Thanks for the replies on Singers.[&o] As soon as I get a turn or two of sweeps over Singers, I will shift most of the bombing there.

DanSez -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/19/2015 5:26:10 PM)
I will give general game updates for the next couple of days until the next big clash occurs on the 19th. At that time I will go back and review the moves and tactics of that naval action. Dec 15th Top of the New Report: Japanese forces CAPTURE Shortlands !!! Babeldaob expands airfield to size 4 (recall 21st Air Flotilla in route) I continue to expand Babeldaob AF and port. Is that a good use of supplies at this point? I needed to get the AF to level four at least. Air Wars He has been effectively harassing me in the Philippines, so I thought I would give this a try. Raid size-wise very appropriate for this stage of the war. Night Air attack on Batangas , at 79,78 Weather in hex: Moderate rain Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 10 minutes Japanese aircraft G4M1 Betty x 8 I know, in hind-sight I should not be using Betty for this, I am learning to change my ways. This report is about 10 game days behind current play. I do appreciate the coaching efforts from the readers. There is a lot of other action going on – peasants troops dying from air raids in China, regular bombing and sweeping in Malaysia (not in Singers yet – due to range and moving HQs). Moving on…

DanSez -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/19/2015 5:30:34 PM)
Dec 15th (cont) SigInt Heavy Volume of Radio transmissions detected at Seattle (212,52). Wonder what is going on there? I have a couple of subs well off the coast screening Pearl and Alaska routes. Sub Wars ************* Sub attack near Babeldaob at 91,96 Japanese Ships TK Kozui Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage Allied Ships SS Sturgeon Japan High Command sadly announces that TK Kozui Maru was lost off to the East of Babeldaob. A small tanker but surely to be missed. *********** Submarine attack near Balikpapan at 64,100 Japanese Ships SS I-155 Allied Ships xAP Glenorchy, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage *********** Sub attack near Hilo at 187,110 Japanese Ships SS I-19, hits 1 Allied Ships DD Aylwin Submarine attack near Pearl Harbor at 177,114 Japanese Ships SS I-16 Allied Ships xAP President Coolidge, Torpedo hits 1 *********** Submarine attack near Tandjoengpinang at 50,86 Japanese Ships SS I-121 Allied Ships xAKL Shinai, Shell hits 7, heavy fires SS I-121 attacking on the surface SS I-121 low on gun ammo, Chiyoshima U. breaks off surface engagement and submerges *************

DanSez -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/19/2015 5:45:28 PM)
Dec 15th (cont) Naval Surface Action Night Time Surface Combat, near Vigan at 80,73, Range 3,000 Yards Japanese Ships CA Ashigara CL Natori DD Minazuki DD Harukaze DD Matsukaze DD Hatakaze Allied Ships PT-41 PT Q-111 PT Q-112, Shell hits 1, and is sunk PT Q-113 General Notes: This turn I finally get the extra forces assembled in Tokyo and start loading for Wake Island. My wiley opponent might have thought about rushing the Wake Invasion force with his carriers. The majority of the KB remain in the area hoping to trap or destroy any efforts to block this invasion. Kaga and Akagi are split off and head to Truk to restock their depleted Zero Sentai. The plan is to later rejoin the KB after the invasion forces land at Wake. In China -- what a mess. This turn I went hunting thru my checklist and cities to see why relief forces have not arrived yet in Shanghai freeing up the 21st Div to load and move to the Philippines. Problems found, forces sent in the right direction. I hope to make a full report on China in the first week of each month as we go forward, unless there is some dramatic or tragic news item to report. R&D in Japan is starting to shape up somewhat. I have set up 5x30 A6M3s and 2x30 A6M2-N Rufe which I believe will then jump to the A6M5 model when repaired at 100% (without losing factories). I hope to give a full report in the last week of each month on what has been done/ repaired/ etc. Also the infamous Tracker Industry Charts will be posted on the first of each month -- all you grognards, please stay tuned and help me decipher that screen.[sm=innocent0001.gif]

ny59giants -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/19/2015 5:49:51 PM)
Base Expansion: When playing Japan, I focus on one thing (AF, port, or forts) at a time considering the low number of construction engineers (and vehicles) you have. You will have trouble getting over 200 at a base while by late '42 the Allies, especially the Americans, can easily build more than one thing at a time. At one point in late '43, I had over 1300 engineers (engineers plus engineer vehicles) at a base. By the end of two months, I had my beach side condos finished!! [:D]

setloz -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/19/2015 6:46:02 PM)
Talking about base expansion, I'm not sure whether you know this, but bring a lot of engineers to Fusan and start building up the port there. Also set-up some TFs to draw resources from Fusan to Shimonoseki. This will eventually save you a lot of fuel by shortening your resource transport routes from China&Manchukuo to the Home Islands.

Lowpe -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/19/2015 8:12:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DanSez 5x30 A6M3s and 2x30 A6M2-N Rufe which I believe will then jump to the A6M5 model when repaired at 100% (without losing factories). [sm=innocent0001.gif] I would have set up all 7 sized thirty factories making the A6M2 until fully repaired (30 days). It is a great plane early on...and then moved all 7 factories to the SennBaku FB, and then (on the same day) moved them to the A6M5b and then moved them on the same day to the A6M5c (armored goodness!) I wouldn't worry about researching any of the previous Zeroes. So in 30 days I would be accelerating a great Zero that you will desperately need. If you set up 5 size 30 factories now researching the Frank A you should get the plane around May 43 and that plane is probably your best matchup against the P47 in mid43.

Lowpe -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/19/2015 9:13:18 PM)
Wrong thread, sorry. Gadzooks.

DanSez -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/19/2015 10:40:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe quote: ORIGINAL: DanSez 5x30 A6M3s and 2x30 A6M2-N Rufe which I believe will then jump to the A6M5 model when repaired at 100% (without losing factories). [sm=innocent0001.gif] I would have set up all 7 sized thirty factories making the A6M2 until fully repaired (30 days). It is a great plane early on...and then moved all 7 factories to the SennBaku FB, and then (on the same day) moved them to the A6M5b and then moved them on the same day to the A6M5c (armored goodness!) I wouldn't worry about researching any of the previous Zeroes. So in 30 days I would be accelerating a great Zero that you will desperately need. If you set up 5 size 30 factories now researching the Frank A you should get the plane around May 43 and that plane is probably your best matchup against the P47 in mid43. I did not know that. If I set to the current A6M2, once they are repaired, switch them back to R&D SenBaku (they remain repaired?),then switch them to A6M5, then switch them to A6M5c --- and they are all still repaired and start whittling down the Date of Arrival? Can you also not do that for the Oscar IV you like in the game your playing? Could that be why some players are so negative about Realistic R&D Off? I may just steer clear of that method for now --- let me think about it -- but it is a very very interesting proposition.

DanSez -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/19/2015 10:44:11 PM)
Once I get a bit more comfortable with the Japanese force structure and start finding my own writing style for this story, I will trim and lessen the 'Daily News' type post to what is truly important, relevant or significant - but till then, this too is a learning process. I like being ahead a week or more in game play which allows me to craft the tale of specific engagements. Thanks for everyone's interest and feedback.

DanSez -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/19/2015 10:51:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: setloz Talking about base expansion, I'm not sure whether you know this, but bring a lot of engineers to Fusan and start building up the port there. Also set-up some TFs to draw resources from Fusan to Shimonoseki. This will eventually save you a lot of fuel by shortening your resource transport routes from China&Manchukuo to the Home Islands. The Kull spreadsheet I started building from (thank you Kull) has notes about railing in extra engineers but it does not give much discription of setting up the 'Magic Highway' of flow from Asia down to Fusan. I have 2 (1xPB 2xTK - smaller ones) set on CS:Mission - one each for Oil and Fuel. Oil has started flowing slowly from Port Arthur(?). I also set Oil to Stockpile at Fusan, and not at Port Arthur. In this game I am using just TKs and AOs to transport oil and fuel. I have set one pretty large tanker force up toward Port Arthur to fill up, but if is not a CS mission, the home base of those big TKs is Truk and this is, as far as I can make it appear to the Supply AI behind the curtain, a one time drive by fill-up and go. I think the real work on the 'Magic Highway' begins once you clear the central coast of China and start trying to pull stuff from South China/Indochina up toward Port Arthur/down to Fusan. The Black Art of supply at its finest. Thanks again for your comments. Please don't hesitate to bring up any other 'I should know' points because odds are, I am missing some of them - and it also helps any other First Timer out there who comes along this thread later. [:)]

DanSez -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/19/2015 10:57:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants Second, ONLY enter Singapore with FULL divisions. If you go in with brigades and/or divisional components, those LCUs will get trashed when you attack. Got the scars from doing it. [sm=nono.gif] Thank you. I've read some about that before and with your prompting, I am checking the Unit's Organization button and see at least one 'scattered' Division across the Malaysian Pennisula. I will check for others. [sm=character0077.gif]

ny59giants -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/19/2015 11:00:31 PM)
Southern Army Command HQ - Should be prepping for Singapore along with a Army/Corp HQ so you have a chance to get the 90% adjusted AV when you attack. I would move it to someplace in Malaya.

Lowpe -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/20/2015 12:38:29 AM)
The beauty of Realistic off is that you can move a currently manufacturing factory back to r&d. This lets you really jump start your r&d. Take the Oscar Line. Dec 7 you set up 5 size 30 factories making the current model and repairing. In 30 days you have 5 fully repaired factories of 30 each. You then move them to r&d the next generation, and then the next, one jump at a time, and viola you have 5 factories r&d the Oscar 4 on Jan 27, 1941 advancing the Oscar IV one month every 10 days with engine bonus. You may decide not to go all the way to the end of the production line...you may want something earlier like the first armored Oscar. Fine you get that particular Oscar, switch your r&d factories to production until you are happy with your pools and then switch them back to r&d the next model Oscar. Cost - no supplies, no downtime repairing factories. Now some people put up HR that you can't skip generations...but you still can move forward from production to r&d with no damage as long as it is the next generation plane. In realistic r&d, once a r&d factory moves to production there is no going back to r&d. It has been a while, but I believe you can advance your r&d factories down the line with no damage in realistic r&d as long as it is the next generation plane. So realistic off gives you a jump in research for those generational planes that are currently in production: Zero and Oscar and Betty most notably. Later: Frank, George, Jack, Tony really any generational plane.

DanSez -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/20/2015 10:23:59 PM)
A little motivation music while I catch up on the action Moterhead/Girl's School Please Don't Touch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOpx61okWTk

DanSez -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/20/2015 10:26:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ny59giants Southern Army Command HQ - Should be prepping for Singapore along with a Army/Corp HQ so you have a chance to get the 90% adjusted AV when you attack. I would move it to someplace in Malaya. Another good tip as I build my list for the next time I play. It is already Christmas in my game but I still changed the prep of the Southern Army Command. I had changed 25th Army HQ to Singapore as soon as they landed on the 8th of December.

DanSez -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/20/2015 10:37:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe The beauty of Realistic off is that you can move a currently manufacturing factory back to r&d. This lets you really jump start your r&d. Take the Oscar Line. Dec 7 you set up 5 size 30 factories making the current model and repairing. In 30 days you have 5 fully repaired factories of 30 each. You then move them to r&d the next generation, and then the next, one jump at a time, and viola you have 5 factories r&d the Oscar 4 on Jan 27, 1941 advancing the Oscar IV one month every 10 days with engine bonus. You may decide not to go all the way to the end of the production line...you may want something earlier like the first armored Oscar. Fine you get that particular Oscar, switch your r&d factories to production until you are happy with your pools and then switch them back to r&d the next model Oscar. Cost - no supplies, no downtime repairing factories. Now some people put up HR that you can't skip generations...but you still can move forward from production to r&d with no damage as long as it is the next generation plane. In realistic r&d, once a r&d factory moves to production there is no going back to r&d. It has been a while, but I believe you can advance your r&d factories down the line with no damage in realistic r&d as long as it is the next generation plane. So realistic off gives you a jump in research for those generational planes that are currently in production: Zero and Oscar and Betty most notably. Later: Frank, George, Jack, Tony really any generational plane. It is in consideration. If my annoyance meter was a bit higher there would be no hesitation. One thing bugging me though is the use of single ship task forces to run past my screeners and search planes to escape. I have read a lot about the 'thundering herd' but I have yet to see more than the odd 1 ship task force fleetingly skip past my patrols so far this game. It could well be my inexperience in setting up effective screens, but I had the sea lanes between Hong Kong and Philippines covered with planes from Samar and the Takao/Pecso bases. I should have see 'something'.

witpqs -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/20/2015 10:53:12 PM)
Single ship task forces fleeing is completely realistic. They do get seen and targeted, but their chances of escaping detection and/or targeting are better.

DanSez -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/20/2015 10:59:21 PM)
We have got a few days more before the next major action so I am going to combine the New Reports across those days. Top of the News: Dec 16th Legaspi is occupied by the Japanese Dec 17th Kwangchowan is occupied by the Japanese Japanese forces CAPTURE Vanimo !!! Dec 18th Boac is occupied by the Japanese Dec 19th Balabac is occupied by the Japanese Not a whole lotta shaking going on... SigInt Dec 17th Heavy Volume of transmissions East of Pearl Dec 18th Glen boats caught sight of a couple of single ships filtering around the pararmeter of my sub patrols. Did Allied Command disband his single task force into smaller groups to try and prevent Detection Levels? Has anyone seen such a tactic before?

Lowpe -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/20/2015 11:23:10 PM)
You are two weeks after Pearl Harbor, the thundering herd has come and gone most likely. [:(] High speed runs and they are gone in a couple of days. He could be disbanding in ports...too. Oftentimes an early visit with the KB to Soerabaja/Perth/Ceylon will bag a lot of ships. To pull off nailing the thundering herd you need to plan for it on Dec 7th and allocate lots of assets to doing it.

Lowpe -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/20/2015 11:26:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DanSez Did Allied Command disband his single task force into smaller groups to try and prevent Detection Levels? Has anyone seen such a tactic before? Sure, they did everything trying to flee. Left smaller, slower ships, hid in rivers, gave the crew liberty, got drunk, fought like dogs, or business as usual and no rush. The whole gamut. Oh, shot at planets! Your Nells and Mavis should easily spot single ship cargo ships above the xakl size. It sounds to me you are not maximizing your search. You need day and night plane search, overlapping, in both am and pm phases, and you need surface ships with generous engagement ranges not set to remain on station but rather patrol even it is only 1 hex.

DanSez -> RE: Tales from the First Time -DanSez (J) vs Przemico123 (A) - no Przemico123 please (2/21/2015 3:20:52 AM)
Thanks for the replies. I am surely not maximizing resources to look for stray single ship task forces. I have a whole lot of ASW search up since day one and added even more as Allied High Command has persisted in crowding subs within a couple of hexes of ports and harbors. I guess my 'annoyance' comes from a couple of things: 1. I don't know exactly what I am looking at - fog of war/incomplete search arcs/this commander's inexperience - all are major factors 2. I am/was surprised by the widespread use of this tactic. The AI doesn't do this and in the smaller scenarios with other rookies like me, this tactics never came up or was used so infrequently as to be not noticed. 3. I am not sure how to counter this with the limited resources I have and balanced against the other challenges/needs for those assets. More experience will cure some of those ills. Thanks again witpqs and Lowpe.

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