RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941.

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Karaganov -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/2/2016 9:44:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Zhenka In addition, I think that then you can expand the map to the south and a little east. Then you can create new great scenario - Battle of Leningrad. I also thought about this

Brazenman -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/3/2016 7:06:42 AM)
Leningrad 1941-1942 http://www.285sd.ru/images/stories/285sd/liniya-fronta-iyul-1942.jpg

Brazenman -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/5/2016 6:06:32 PM)
H.Balck wrote: Here is a more detail map of the Mannerheim line regiments. [image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/29940235/Nov30th39B.jpg[/image]

Kompolka -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/7/2016 9:05:50 PM)
Guys, I think you need to do armored trains for Finnish Army also. Finnish armored trains have participated in Winter War.

Zhenka -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/9/2016 4:51:14 PM)
Karaganov perhaps you will be interested in this Bebro did an excellent model of the Tu-2 http://slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=30004&start=540

Karaganov -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/10/2016 8:19:28 PM)
First screenshot Assault of the Mannerheim Line (260x180) [image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/30011253/screenshot-07.jpg[/image]

Karaganov -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/12/2016 7:49:19 PM)
Leningrad [image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/30011261/screenshot-08.jpg[/image]

Karaganov -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/12/2016 7:50:12 PM)
Leningrad [image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/30011268/screenshot-09.jpg[/image]

Karaganov -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/12/2016 7:53:10 PM)
Shlisselburg [image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/30011294/screenshot-10.jpg[/image]

Karaganov -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/12/2016 7:54:00 PM)
Terijoki [image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/30011304/screenshot-11.jpg[/image]

Karaganov -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/12/2016 7:54:56 PM)
Käkisalmi [image]http://www2.pic-upload.de/img/30011310/screenshot-12.jpg[/image]

R35 -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/12/2016 8:54:21 PM)
Impressive work! If you need the assembled Finnish battle cards let me know.

Karaganov -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/14/2016 7:25:46 PM)
The first version of the map - Assault of the Mannerheim Line (260x180) Link: http://my-files.ru/nsv5iv

Karaganov -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/14/2016 7:34:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: R35 Impressive work! If you need the assembled Finnish battle cards let me know. Thanks for the kind words If you have good maps, then you can post these maps in the topic. Of course it can help us.

R35 -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/15/2016 12:13:27 PM)
I think you misunderstood me. I asked if you need the Finnish units. I have assembled the renders into cards and could send them if you need them.

Zhenka -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/15/2016 12:41:30 PM)
I see that it is great map! Fantastic! But I think it would be good if you will expand map and if you add the following cities Volkhov, Novaya Ladoga, Narva, Kingisepp, Volosovo, Krasnogvardeisk, Siversky, Enso.

Svetlanka -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/15/2016 5:53:33 PM)
It's cool guys! Please, do not torment me I can not wait to play it

Karaganov -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/15/2016 8:51:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: R35 I think you misunderstood me. I asked if you need the Finnish units. I have assembled the renders into cards and could send them if you need them. Sorry, you are right. I was too lazy to read, and I used Google. Do you have a complete list of finished units for Finland? I am not sure but it seems that we are missing a few units: finnish engineers finnish bicycles (or cavalry) staff car coastal artillery system (naval gun) heavy howitzer ( eg 152 mm French Howitzer Model 1915 or 152 mm French Howitzer Model 1917) Also I think it would be good to implement battalions of volunteer from other countries (the Swedes, Estonians and others) in the Finnish army. But this does not necessarily.

Karaganov -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/15/2016 8:55:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Zhenka I see that it is great map! Fantastic! But I think it would be good if you will expand map and if you add the following cities Volkhov, Novaya Ladoga, Narva, Kingisepp, Volosovo, Krasnogvardeisk, Siversky, Enso. When I will work on map for scenario Leningrad 1941, then I will expand map to the South and to the East. Now it is not actual.

Karaganov -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/15/2016 9:00:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Svetlanka It's cool guys! Please, do not torment me I can not wait to play it I'm afraid that I will not have enough free time to do this scenario quickly. Also I do not like is strictly historical scenarios. But I think that H.Balck will be glad make a good historical scenario. I think I need a couple more weeks to finalize the this map.

R35 -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/15/2016 9:32:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Karaganov Do you have a complete list of finished units for Finland? I`ll send you a link. quote: I am not sure but it seems that we are missing a few units: finnish engineers finnish bicycles (or cavalry) staff car coastal artillery system (naval gun) heavy howitzer ( eg 152 mm French Howitzer Model 1915 or 152 mm French Howitzer Model 1917) Currently we don`t have any of those. Also, I would rather have both bicycle infantry and horse mounted cavalry. Based on your list and my own ideas I think we should aim for something like this: Renault FT 17 - about 20 of them were still in use (did not see combat though) until February 1940 http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/TANKS1.htm 20 ItK/30 and 20 ItK/38 (BSW, Gustloff) - 30 guns delivered just days before Winter War. Another 20 delivered covertly in early days of December 1939 http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/AA_GUNS1.htm http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/20ItK30_1.jpg http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/20ItK38_2.jpg Italian made Pavesi tractor (for the 152mm guns) http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/ARTILLERY6.htm staff cars: Fiat 626 Radio Truck Vidal G 1200 Tempo Steyr 1500 Kfz. 17 Radio Car Aircraft: Bristol Bulldog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Bulldog#Operational_history Other heavy artillery to consider would be the following: these three were used during the Winter War, but in very small numbers: 150 H/06 (150 mm howitzer model 1906) - 12 guns 150 H/14j (150 mm howitzer model 1914, Japanese) - 12 guns 152 H/10 (152 mm howitzer model 1910) - 8 guns used during the Winter War These two were present in more significant numbers, but arrived after the Winter War: 155 H/15 (Canon de 155 C, mle 1915) - 24 howitzers bought from France during Winter War, but they arrived too late to see action in that war. 150 H/40 (15 cm sFH 18) - 48 howitzers bought from Germany late 1940 so not used during the Winter War Source: http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/ARTILLERY6.htm

Karaganov -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/15/2016 9:57:13 PM)
Great! Good list. I will be happy if H.Balck will make all of these units. But Canon de 155 C did more 5000 shots fired in Winter War http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/ARTILLERY6.htm But it is not fundamentally, I think that would be enough of any heavy howitzer from your list.

R35 -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/15/2016 10:08:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Karaganov But Canon de 155 C did more 5000 shots fired in Winter War http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/ARTILLERY6.htm Ah, well, if we count the shots of these 12 guns than we get into the thousands. [:D] Ok, I`ll add this gun to the list. Should be easy to make since H.Balck already made it for the French.

Brazenman -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/16/2016 9:18:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: R35 staff car - you should suggest something here Fiat 626 Radio Truck Vidal G 1200 Tempo Steyr 1500 Kfz. 17 Radio Car

R35 -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/17/2016 2:18:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Brazenman Fiat 626 Radio Truck Vidal G 1200 Tempo Steyr 1500 Kfz. 17 Radio Car If you have any links that show them in Finnish service it would be useful to have them so that H.Balck knows what to make exactly. I`ve edited the list above to take out what has already been done and I added the Bristol Bulldog on the aircraft list. Even though only a dozen were operational, it was there since the start of the Winter War and for a big map like Karaganov`s, diversity is important.

Ballermann -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/17/2016 4:21:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: R35 I`ll send you a link. And what about us ? We want to please also have a link[&o]

Svetlanka -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/18/2016 12:31:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kessy quote: ORIGINAL: R35 I`ll send you a link. And what about us ? We want to please also have a link[&o] Yes, it is true! I also hope to get the link! BTW What is the situation with new soviet units?

Karaganov -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/18/2016 9:17:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: R35 quote: ORIGINAL: Brazenman Fiat 626 Radio Truck Vidal G 1200 Tempo Steyr 1500 Kfz. 17 Radio Car If you have any links that show them in Finnish service it would be useful to have them so that H.Balck knows what to make exactly. Winter War. Finnish cars and trucks. http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=115369

Brazenman -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/20/2016 1:22:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: R35 quote: ORIGINAL: Brazenman Fiat 626 Radio Truck Vidal G 1200 Tempo Steyr 1500 Kfz. 17 Radio Car If you have any links that show them in Finnish service it would be useful to have them so that H.Balck knows what to make exactly. Captured Finnish Cars Vidal G 1200 Tempo http://trofmash.ru/gallery/tempo-g1200-6-seater-1936/

Brazenman -> RE: Battle for the Crimea. Autumn 1941. (3/24/2016 9:36:00 PM)
Soviet military trucks http://bogdanclub.info/showthread.php/5200-Автотранспорт?s=fac2ef02a2a25857fa2f379e30bde42d

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