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el lobo -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (7/9/2017 12:59:39 AM)
Thanks Aurorus. One of the more subtle aspects of the game.

el lobo -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (7/9/2017 1:00:56 AM)
Question How important is preparation (Set Future Objective)? I am concerning a counter-invasion of Tinian and/or Rota. I can muster six IDs and support but I would not have time to fully prep them. For example, would five IDs not prepped be equivalent to four IDs prepped? Thanks.

Bif1961 -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (7/9/2017 1:10:24 AM)
Depends on the prep level the more the better. Low prep means more casualties, more disablement and disruption upon landing. Think of it this way you have troops at different locations who have no practiced a landing who were probably not properly combat loaded landing on a hostile beach they know little about. It is a plan for a disaster. The higher the prep the less those factors affect the landing troops.

PaxMondo -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (7/9/2017 11:25:19 AM)
Prep is a big deal, BUT for your reaction forces you can only guess and assume that they won't be. What I do is prep one unit for each objective in my reaction force. That way at least one unit is prepped. What you have to plan for is that you are able to disable/disorganize the opponent more than you are when you assault ... it also means that you really need overwhelming force. AKA bring the HAMMER.

Lowpe -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (7/9/2017 12:20:40 PM)
If the defenders are disabled heavily and weak then you can go in with infantry with 25 prep. If the defenders aren't heavily disabled and moderately strong then you need 75. Rule of thumb. Allied sig int will give warning at some point most likely.

el lobo -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (7/11/2017 12:00:05 AM)
Thanks All. If I were an experienced player I probably would have done this by now but I think the window of opportunity is closing. I don't want the real estate but perhaps this was a chance to kill some Allied troops. I will keep massing my troops and hope another opportunity rises.

PaxMondo -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (7/11/2017 2:41:36 AM)
If you cannot take all 4 islands ... I would reconsider. The issue is that if he owns the air, those units are stranded ...

el lobo -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (8/7/2017 1:26:46 PM)
PACIFIC Sept 1 - 4, 1943 Turn 634 - 637 The Allied Fleet has returned to the Marianas and we are having quite a bit of fun. [image]local://upfiles/45493/2A48E01BA6AE41DFADD658577678E6A9.jpg[/image]

el lobo -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (8/7/2017 1:41:38 PM)
I have Georges, Judys, and Jills at Pagen but so far they have not gotten to the ships. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Tinian at 108,95 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 110 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 36 minutes Japanese aircraft B6N2 Jill x 7 N1K1-J George x 54 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 30 FM-1 Wildcat x 44 F6F-3 Hellcat x 113 Japanese aircraft losses B6N2 Jill: 4 destroyed N1K1-J George: 5 destroyed Allied aircraft losses FM-1 Wildcat: 2 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed [image]local://upfiles/45493/E4753D0A13144AE2B53313AA1A93619C.jpg[/image]

el lobo -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (8/7/2017 1:43:33 PM)
I adjusted some setting and got better results. The screen-shot went by too fast and I missed a capture of the Essex attack, it but it was pretty. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on TF, near Tinian at 108,95 Weather in hex: Overcast Raid detected at 112 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 37 minutes Japanese aircraft B6N2 Jill x 26 N1K1-J George x 90 Allied aircraft F4F-3 Wildcat x 27 FM-1 Wildcat x 36 F6F-3 Hellcat x 103 Japanese aircraft losses B6N2 Jill: 17 destroyed, 1 damaged N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 destroyed FM-1 Wildcat: 1 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed Allied Ships CV Essex Aircraft Attacking: 1 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo

el lobo -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (8/7/2017 1:47:53 PM)
I have all of my Es at Pagen taking turns trying to get inside the Fleet but so far they have all been intercepted on the way. A lot of small Naval engagements like this. I am losing a Sub a day so will soon be out of them. [image]local://upfiles/45493/95F57FA1D2DE45B89A770AEC66399551.jpg[/image]

el lobo -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (8/10/2017 12:00:32 PM)
PACIFIC Sept 6, 1943 Turn 640 I have six Netty units from Truk around to Marcus. All are flying night except this unit. The night units have hit a Tk so far. [image]local://upfiles/45493/173D6F9849924E9D8BB832A79B133276.jpg[/image]

PaxMondo -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (8/10/2017 6:59:57 PM)
takes very high exp pilots to get naval hits at night +80exp min, +90 will see real results.

Lowpe -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (8/10/2017 7:36:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PaxMondo takes very high exp pilots to get naval hits at night +80exp min, +90 will see real results. +1 by far and away the most powerful use of IJN naval bombers, and also a reason for the Peggy T as you can really mine high experience army pilots in China and convert them to night Peggy T duty. It takes a dedicated JFB to get those IJN pilots to 90 in China and then use strictly for night work. Most lack the discipline and try for the daytime attacks in heavy CAP. This is a great solution to the marauding deathstar mid to mid late game.

PaxMondo -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (8/11/2017 1:34:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lowpe This is a great solution to the marauding deathstar mid to mid late game. +1

el lobo -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (8/11/2017 1:06:45 PM)
PACIFIC Sept 7, 1943 Turn 641 I only have one Nell unit with some pilots with experience over eighty. The rest of the units are in the high seventies. More of the same but the Jakes are not to be left-out. [image]local://upfiles/45493/A6BF926282644F0F8DEB853E1AAD6550.jpg[/image]

el lobo -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (8/11/2017 1:30:11 PM)
PACIFIC Sept 7, 1943 Turn 641 Search arcs. [image]local://upfiles/45493/4DB62F1A2181458BBA82C81875AF415C.jpg[/image]

el lobo -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (8/29/2017 12:17:17 AM)
PACIFIC Sept 8, 1943 Turn 641 Skirmishes back and forth. [image]local://upfiles/45493/1C2AF673CEF14014A2A7B237E55040C0.jpg[/image]

el lobo -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (8/29/2017 12:19:11 AM)
Franks first outing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Pagan , at 110,89 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-84a Frank x 27 Allied aircraft PB4Y-1 Liberator x 14 Japanese aircraft losses N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses PB4Y-1 Liberator: 5 damaged [image]local://upfiles/45493/1B0410C7FB1E4E66A0EFA6D51A25EF83.jpg[/image]

el lobo -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (8/29/2017 12:30:08 AM)
PACIFIC Sept 9, 1943 Turn 641 Lost these two stragglers from a Bombardment TF. Hummm .... I wonder why. The Bombardment TF did not reach Guam as it ran into similar resistance. [image]local://upfiles/45493/AE83610D379D406BA0010E409DAB6350.jpg[/image]

el lobo -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (8/29/2017 12:49:58 AM)
PACIFIC Sept 12, 1943 Turn 644 The Nells started the day followed by two well coordinated strikes. It appears that his Flotilla is on the move. [image]local://upfiles/45493/6CE2C1F3EAD245D2BAC0821A003CAC2C.jpg[/image]

el lobo -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (8/29/2017 12:52:02 AM)
First strike. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Guam at 107,94 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 116 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 38 minutes Japanese aircraft B6N2 Jill x 4 D4Y3 Judy x 3 N1K1-J George x 36 Allied aircraft Martlet IV x 6 F4F-3 Wildcat x 23 F4F-4 Wildcat x 27 FM-1 Wildcat x 100 F6F-3 Hellcat x 208 Japanese aircraft losses B6N2 Jill: 3 destroyed D4Y3 Judy: 2 destroyed N1K1-J George: 6 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed FM-1 Wildcat: 2 destroyed Allied Ships CVE Nassau [image]local://upfiles/45493/7F3CB6F486614DD0AA7D8DED131BBF34.jpg[/image]

el lobo -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (8/29/2017 12:53:24 AM)
Second strike. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Guam at 107,94 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 40 minutes Japanese aircraft D4Y3 Judy x 3 N1K1-J George x 44 Allied aircraft Martlet IV x 6 F4F-3 Wildcat x 19 F4F-4 Wildcat x 24 FM-1 Wildcat x 89 F6F-3 Hellcat x 188 Japanese aircraft losses D4Y3 Judy: 1 destroyed D4Y3 Judy: 1 destroyed by flak N1K1-J George: 7 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed FM-1 Wildcat: 1 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed Allied Ships CVE Nassau [image]local://upfiles/45493/7F594C03A5D340A6B9E34AAE998CC647.jpg[/image]

el lobo -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (8/29/2017 3:20:03 AM)
PACIFIC Sept 14, 1943 Turn 647 Any code breakers out there? I intercepted this Top Secret message sent by Rio to his cohort, Captain Haggard. (Read, he sent an email to me instead of Capt. Haggard by mistake.) It reads in part: --------------------- Captain Haggard- CHARGE (Bugles blaring in the background) 1.) We leave OWT bound for OWP tomorrow; September 12, 1943. 2.) The entire Invasion Fleet presently at OWT has been refueled from the Replenishment Task Force within the hex; including all your Task Forces within the hex. 3.) All Combat Ship Task Forces presently at OWT are fully armed. 4.) I set all your Mine Sweeping Task Forces to follow the Invasion Fleet's lead Task Force; TF 17. 5.) All Task Forces presently at one or the other four southern Marianas Ports have loaded and are set to meet the Invasion Fleet at OWT. They should all arrive by day-end on September 11, 1943. 6.) Please check all the Task Forces under The Haggard Group to assure that I have not set any of your Task Forces to head west that you do not want heading west and to assure that all of your Task Forces you want heading west are indeed set to follow TF 17. DESTRYOER TENDERS (AVDs) PRESENTLY AT OWT These AVDS were at OER as you sent them there, I assume to be protected by the Invasion Fleet. Accordingly, when I moved the Invasion Fleet to OWT, I set the AVDs to follow so they would still remain under the protection of the Invasion Fleet. I have now set them to return to Guam. They are your ships, if you want them elsewhere, so order them elsewhere. ------------------- Any idea what "OWT," "OWP," or "OER" mean? Any guesses where Rio is heading? Thanks. [image]local://upfiles/45493/AE9961D5A6404D4E89DDF6E72DE4BD84.jpg[/image]

PaxMondo -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (8/29/2017 12:24:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: el lobo Franks first outing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Pagan , at 110,89 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-84a Frank x 27 Allied aircraft PB4Y-1 Liberator x 14 Japanese aircraft losses N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses PB4Y-1 Liberator: 5 damaged Frank is not the best 4E killer, unless you get the "b" model with 4x20mm. George is far more effective as is Tony.

PaxMondo -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (8/29/2017 12:31:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: el lobo Second strike. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Guam at 107,94 Weather in hex: Clear sky Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 40 minutes Japanese aircraft D4Y3 Judy x 3 N1K1-J George x 44 Allied aircraft Martlet IV x 6 F4F-3 Wildcat x 19 F4F-4 Wildcat x 24 FM-1 Wildcat x 89 F6F-3 Hellcat x 188 Japanese aircraft losses D4Y3 Judy: 1 destroyed D4Y3 Judy: 1 destroyed by flak N1K1-J George: 7 destroyed Allied aircraft losses F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed FM-1 Wildcat: 1 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed Allied Ships CVE Nassau Just to be sure you understand some of the underlying ussues here: you lost 9 pilots. he lost 1, maybe. his +200 pilots gained 1-3 exp, your surviving 39 gained 1-3 exp.

tarkalak -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (8/29/2017 1:45:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: el lobo PACIFIC Sept 14, 1943 Turn 647 Any code breakers out there? ... Thanks. Hello el lobo, Considering the real WWII Japanese decoding abilities the real message should be something like that: Q2FwdGFpbiBIYWdnYXJkLQ0KDQpDSEFSR0UgKEJ1Z2xlcyBibGFyaW5nIGluIHRoZSBiYWNrZ3JvdW5kKQ0KDQoxLikgV2UgbGVhdmUgT1dUIGJvdW5kIGZvciBPV1AgdG9tb3J yb3c7IFNlcHRlbWJlciAxMiwgMTk0My4NCg0KMi4pIFRoZSBlbnRpcmUgSW52YXNpb24gRmxlZXQgcHJlc2VudGx5IGF0IE9XVCBoYXMgYmVlbiByZWZ1ZWxlZCBmcm9tIHRoZS BSZXBsZW5pc2htZW50IFRhc2sgRm9yY2Ugd2l0aGluIHRoZSBoZXg7IGluY2x1ZGluZyBhbGwgeW91ciBUYXNrIEZvcmNlcyB3aXRoaW4gdGhlIGhleC4NCg0KMy4pIEFsbCBDb 21iYXQgU2hpcCBUYXNrIEZvcmNlcyBwcmVzZW50bHkgYXQgT1dUIGFyZSBmdWxseSBhcm1lZC4NCg0KNC4pIEkgc2V0IGFsbCB5b3VyIE1pbmUgU3dlZXBpbmcgVGFzayBGb3Jj ZXMgdG8gZm9sbG93IHRoZSBJbnZhc2lvbiBGbGVldCdzIGxlYWQgVGFzayBGb3JjZTsgVEYgMTcuDQoNCjUuKSBBbGwgVGFzayBGb3JjZXMgcHJlc2VudGx5IGF0IG9uZSBvciB 0aGUgb3RoZXIgZm91ciBzb3V0aGVybiBNYXJpYW5hcyBQb3J0cyBoYXZlIGxvYWRlZCBhbmQgYXJlIHNldCB0byBtZWV0IHRoZSBJbnZhc2lvbiBGbGVldCBhdCBPV1QuIFRoZX kgc2hvdWxkIGFsbCBhcnJpdmUgYnkgZGF5LWVuZCBvbiBTZXB0ZW1iZXIgMTEsIDE5NDMuDQoNCjYuKSBQbGVhc2UgY2hlY2sgYWxsIHRoZSBUYXNrIEZvcmNlcyB1bmRlciBUa GUgSGFnZ2FyZCBHcm91cCB0byBhc3N1cmUgdGhhdCBJIGhhdmUgbm90IHNldCBhbnkgb2YgeW91ciBUYXNrIEZvcmNlcyB0byBoZWFkIHdlc3QgdGhhdCB5b3UgZG8gbm90IHdh bnQgaGVhZGluZyB3ZXN0IGFuZCB0byBhc3N1cmUgdGhhdCBhbGwgb2YgeW91ciBUYXNrIEZvcmNlcyB5b3Ugd2FudCBoZWFkaW5nIHdlc3QgYXJlIGluZGVlZCBzZXQgdG8gZm9 sbG93IFRGIDE3Lg0KDQoNCkRFU1RSWU9FUiBURU5ERVJTIChBVkRzKSBQUkVTRU5UTFkgQVQgT1dUDQoNCg0KVGhlc2UgQVZEUyB3ZXJlIGF0IE9FUiBhcyB5b3Ugc2VudCB0aG VtIHRoZXJlLCBJIGFzc3VtZSB0byBiZSBwcm90ZWN0ZWQgYnkgdGhlIEludmFzaW9uIEZsZWV0LiBBY2NvcmRpbmdseSwgd2hlbiBJIG1vdmVkIHRoZSBJbnZhc2lvbiBGbGVld CB0byBPV1QsIEkgc2V0IHRoZSBBVkRzIHRvIGZvbGxvdyBzbyB0aGV5IHdvdWxkIHN0aWxsIHJlbWFpbiB1bmRlciB0aGUgcHJvdGVjdGlvbiBvZiB0aGUgSW52YXNpb24gRmxl ZXQuIEkgaGF2ZSBub3cgc2V0IHRoZW0gdG8gcmV0dXJuIHRvIEd1YW0uIFRoZXkgYXJlIHlvdXIgc2hpcHMsIGlmIHlvdSB3YW50IHRoZW0gZWxzZXdoZXJlLCBzbyBvcmRlciB 0aGVtIGVsc2V3aGVyZS4NCg== [:D]

Lowpe -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (8/29/2017 2:41:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PaxMondo quote: ORIGINAL: el lobo Franks first outing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morning Air attack on Pagan , at 110,89 Weather in hex: Light cloud Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet. Estimated time to target is 27 minutes Japanese aircraft Ki-84a Frank x 27 Allied aircraft PB4Y-1 Liberator x 14 Japanese aircraft losses N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed on ground Allied aircraft losses PB4Y-1 Liberator: 5 damaged Frank is not the best 4E killer, unless you get the "b" model with 4x20mm. George is far more effective as is Tony. He sent bombers in at 30,000 feet.

Bif1961 -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (8/30/2017 12:04:16 AM)
Where ever it is it appears to be NW of where they are now, unless of course they change course. Maybe you should have all your bases say they are out of fresh water in a low grade cypher and see what he says?

MakeeLearn -> RE: The Gamiest Game in Town. El Lobo (J), vs. Rio Bravo (A) (8/30/2017 12:11:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: el lobo PACIFIC Sept 14, 1943 Turn 647 Any code breakers out there? I intercepted this Top Secret message sent by Rio to his cohort, Captain Haggard. ------------------- Any idea what "OWT," "OWP," or "OER" mean? Any guesses where Rio is heading? Thanks. Check with LT. Ralphie [image]local://upfiles/55056/1736CFFD5D714670BC0E2CF377FF827B.jpg[/image]

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