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Vic -> Private beta test ATG v2.21d : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/20/2015 8:32:45 PM)

Its been some time!

But inspired by the feedback of the community pool here is the first new patch in private beta form since a long time.

It adds TOE functionality and auto-reinforcements to the New Dawn v3 random games and allows any scenario to be configured to use this TOE and auto-reinforce functionality.

Get the private beta here:
http://www.advancedtactics.org/AdvancedTacticsGoldPrivateBeta_221d.zip

Private Beta install instruction:
1. Make sure you have the latest official patch. v220 or higher.
2. Make a backup of your Matrix / Advanced Tactics Gold / directory in case there is an issue with the private beta.
3. Manually copy the contents of the zip into your Matrix / Advanced Tactics Gold directory overwriting any files with the same names.
4. Do NOT use this private beta on your STEAM install. This is a private beta for the Matrix install only.

I have added some basic quick documentation on the new feature here:
http://www.vrdesigns.nl/atwiki/doku.php?id=tables_of_organisation_and_equipment

Last but not least: A big thanks to Webizen for allowing me to use his existing NATO counters a base set to use for your TOE models.

Let me know if this allows you to continue existing games without any issues.
And what you think of the new TOE feature! :)

Hope you'll enjoy it!

Once we get any bugs and issues out i'll ask Matrix to post this a public beta. Hence the low-key posting over here in a subforum :)

Read rest of threat for continued version revisions history. Link in top is the most recent private beta version.

Best wishes,
Vic



ernieschwitz -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/20/2015 8:50:53 PM)

Quick post: Did you incorperate the changes made in 2.20h into this 2.20g? Or am i missing something since you are calling it g, and h seems to me to be later in the alphabet?



Vic -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/20/2015 9:05:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ernieschwitz

Quick post: Did you incorperate the changes made in 2.20h into this 2.20g? Or am i missing something since you are calling it g, and h seems to me to be later in the alphabet?


Eh no... it is to late for me.. it should indeed be named version 2.20i.
sry there. will fix it with the next version.

best wishes,
Vic



ernieschwitz -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/20/2015 9:10:16 PM)

Then consider this the first bug report :P :) ;)



lion_of_judah -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/20/2015 9:35:42 PM)

I'm not finding any RULVAR 344. IT shows 340, 343 & 345 no 344. Also when I click on the TOE box, all it shows is " remove all" nothing else



lion_of_judah -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/20/2015 10:27:21 PM)

just looked at the newdawn 3 scenario and the button which says " show different markers" doesn't work either. Instead of showing Nato symbols it still shows the icons. There are no set TO&E's either



ernieschwitz -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/20/2015 11:25:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: lion_of_judah

I'm not finding any RULVAR 344. IT shows 340, 343 & 345 no 344. Also when I click on the TOE box, all it shows is " remove all" nothing else


Rulevar 344 is under Enable/Disable features.



lion_of_judah -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/21/2015 12:35:34 AM)

sweet thanks....as for the rest of my comments, disregard them as I'm slowly figuring this out. Question though, can't you set these TO&E up before you begin play or just when your playing



lion_of_judah -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/21/2015 1:52:42 AM)

ok, so how does one get this to work in a non-newdawn scenario? When you click on the TO&E button in the editor the only option is remove all. Also how do you create a TO&E in editor for units.....this is very frustrating



Vic -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/21/2015 8:32:59 AM)

Note to self: Make sure that the game when auto-reinf is ON automaticly starts with Unit Counter Mode to NATO. (you can switch between siluet, hide and NATO using the unit counter mode button in the middle order buttons)



Vic -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/21/2015 8:47:02 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: lion_of_judah

ok, so how does one get this to work in a non-newdawn scenario? When you click on the TO&E button in the editor the only option is remove all. Also how do you create a TO&E in editor for units.....this is very frustrating


sorry lion,

bug. will be fixed next version.

in the meantime the workaround is to also enable rulevar 343 (officers)

best wishes,
Vic



Tac2i -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/21/2015 3:36:12 PM)

Thanks Vic for the continued support of ATG! This new TO&E feature is pretty cool. Note to players: if you are trying out this private beta and have my NATO mod already installed, you may want to use the mod that puts the regular counters back.

Update: If you want to see the AI units with NATO counters then you should continue to use my NATO mod with this private beta patch. I'd recommend the one without unit size designations on them as the patch provides that info in a more elegant way.

NATO Mod


[image]local://upfiles/16226/A9B61B0C68D44416B19E7599C3C2B700.jpg[/image]



Jafele -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/21/2015 6:46:51 PM)

Hey Vic, the TOE feature makes the game better and faster. Furthermore, players spend more time using tactics than before. I like it! [&o]

Is possible to save formations for different random games? I mean you load your favourite formation (ie 20 rifle+2 machine gun+1 mortar) in any game. So, you donīt need to create it every time you play a different game.

Cheers



Tac2i -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/22/2015 12:26:31 AM)

Some screenshots...

[image]local://upfiles/16226/E6EC09FB25E14FA4B3613A4C93C89218.jpg[/image]



Tac2i -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/22/2015 12:27:24 AM)

Another...



[image]local://upfiles/16226/AB1EB31D51D44FABA622F62427BD62BB.jpg[/image]



Tac2i -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/22/2015 12:28:21 AM)

One more...

[image]local://upfiles/16226/5997D513182144F1BCB40869A2E994F7.jpg[/image]



lion_of_judah -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/22/2015 3:20:12 AM)

Vic
I didn't mean to sound ungrateful for all you are doing to make this game even better, because you are one of the very few who continue supporting their games and I thank you. I must say this, by you adding this new feature, ATG has become even more of a favorite for me....



lion_of_judah -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/22/2015 3:22:43 AM)

does this mean that one has to add officers as well or can we just ignore the officers.....thanks



lion_of_judah -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/22/2015 3:23:29 AM)

I must say that I LOVE being able to actually add unit markings now (Brigade, Divisions ect.....) just love it. Makes the game feel more like a boardgame, thanks



lion_of_judah -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/22/2015 3:40:04 AM)

Vic
I enabled the officer string as you suggested, but I'm still not getting the button to change the model of a unit for a non-newdawn scenario. I double checked and everything for the auto reinforcement is correct. On a brighter note though, I have figured out though how to add TO&E in a newdawn scenario so at least that is something..... :)



Vic -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/22/2015 6:26:18 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lion_of_judah

Vic
I enabled the officer string as you suggested, but I'm still not getting the button to change the model of a unit for a non-newdawn scenario. I double checked and everything for the auto reinforcement is correct. On a brighter note though, I have figured out though how to add TO&E in a newdawn scenario so at least that is something..... :)


well big thanks for reporting issues. all help and testing of the community here is appreciated.

its the first version.

I am looking in to all these issues and posting a new version asap.

@Webizen

Thanks for posting the screenies!

best wishes,
Vic



Vic -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/22/2015 6:29:01 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jafele

Hey Vic, the TOE feature makes the game better and faster. Furthermore, players spend more time using tactics than before. I like it! [&o]

Is possible to save formations for different random games? I mean you load your favourite formation (ie 20 rifle+2 machine gun+1 mortar) in any game. So, you donīt need to create it every time you play a different game.

Cheers


Its not a bad idea. Thought about it myself as well. There is a slight danger of incompatibility issues though. But it put it on the list anyway.

best wishes,
Vic



Vic -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/22/2015 9:49:02 AM)

Version K is uploaded.

It fixes a very serious issue with commander records getting mixed up due to TOE use. (including very high PP cost for new commanders and probably another reported crash).

Any tests under way should restart using the 220K version.

Games with NewDawn3 should now automaticly start in NATO mode. (to avoid confusion)

The Change Model Button can now also show up in the editor if the rulevar for it is enabled. See updated docs on the wiki.

Best wishes,
Vic



lion_of_judah -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/22/2015 12:44:05 PM)

Vic
not to sound stupid, but where is version K? :)



lion_of_judah -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/22/2015 12:47:03 PM)

Never mind I found it. If it had been a snake it would have bit me, just saying....thanks



lion_of_judah -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/22/2015 12:57:40 PM)

I don't know if version k was suppose to fix this issue yet or not, but I'm still not getting the button to change the model of a unit for a non-newdawn scenario. Thanks



lion_of_judah -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/22/2015 1:05:51 PM)

Vic
what is the enable model designer in the rule var and what does this do. Also I enabled 531 & 532 and now it is showing. Also do I need to make a new unit for each regime or will each regime be able to use the same TO&E unit as the original. Say I have an infantry Brigade that was made using TO&E and the people for the unit is Sri Lankan. So say India or tamil tigers want to use the same TO&E, can they and the people group automatically change to their regime. Thanks



Vic -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/22/2015 1:36:34 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: lion_of_judah

Vic
what is the enable model designer in the rule var and what does this do. Also I enabled 531 & 532 and now it is showing. Also do I need to make a new unit for each regime or will each regime be able to use the same TO&E unit as the original. Say I have an infantry Brigade that was made using TO&E and the people for the unit is Sri Lankan. So say India or tamil tigers want to use the same TO&E can they and the people group is automatically changed to their regime. Thanks


TOE models are stored on a regime-to-regime basis and are not shared between regimes.

Model Designer => Try out a new Dawn game and you'll find the in-game model designer in the right side of the order buttons bar.

best wishes,
Vic



lion_of_judah -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/22/2015 1:37:41 PM)

One other thing the system GFX overrule, does that have to be the newdawn scenario or can we make our own. Thanks



Tac2i -> RE: Private beta test ATG v2.20g : TOEs and auto-reinforcements (5/22/2015 2:42:09 PM)

Some way to save your TO&E templates is an excellent idea for random games. Perhaps an export/import facility of some kind.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jafele

Hey Vic, the TOE feature makes the game better and faster. Furthermore, players spend more time using tactics than before. I like it! [&o]

Is possible to save formations for different random games? I mean you load your favourite formation (ie 20 rifle+2 machine gun+1 mortar) in any game. So, you donīt need to create it every time you play a different game.

Cheers




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